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[ - ] I have no parm. How can I top my pasta besides olive oil? 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:09 PM Flag
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Black pepper red pepper flakes chili hot sauce [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:10 PM Flag
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aglio e olio, fry up some garlic in the olive oil [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:12 PM Flag
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tuna and olive oil, add some garlic and parsley and a can of tuna to olive oil [ Reply | More ]
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Np: Aglio, olio and red pepper flakes, add bread crumbs at the last minute to quickly toast [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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and anchovy paste [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:36 PM Flag
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Some Italians top with toasted (in butter) bread crumbs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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This. Saute minced garlic in butter then toast crumbs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:05 PM Flag
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This is easy! Nutritional Yeast flakes. Mmmm, with a cheezey flavor. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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butter 'n salt, and maybe some parsley. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:18 PM Flag
[ - ] I'm not worried about random guys killed by cops (white guys get killed by cops too). I care about women. There are too many women who don't care about women's rights. I care about healthcare for women. I care about the thousands of women in the US who are murdered by their partners. I care about women who die in childbirth. Yeah, that's not popular, but that's what matters to me. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:07 PM Flag
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I completely agree. But unfortunately this is not the right board for this attitude. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:13 PM Flag
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Sad but true. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:12 PM Flag
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Agreed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:06 PM Flag
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Your caring has zero impact. They have to care about themselves. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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Not helpful, caring about yourself is not snough. People have to band together. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:13 PM Flag
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How about caring about human beings? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:48 PM Flag
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People have to fight for their own because men get more attention. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] There is a massive line, outside in the bitter cold, of people waiting to get into the museum of natural history. Looks to be over an hour. Thats crazy. 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:06 PM Flag
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Don't care. Not important. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:08 PM Flag
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It's called layers and outerwear. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:10 PM Flag
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This, why is this such a big deal? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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New Yorkers are cray cray [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:12 PM Flag
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They aren't NYers. they are tourists [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:15 PM Flag
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This. NYers go in through the member entrance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:18 PM Flag
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There is no member entrance. You go in through the regular entrance and to the member line (or lounge, depending) - sometimes the guards will let you skip the line. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:29 PM Flag
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No theres a member entrance, side of building, 81st st. Main entrance on cpw. Sorry, dum dum [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:34 PM Flag
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That's a public entrance. Anyone can go in. Downstairs is general, to the right is the membership desk. We go in through the main entrance though because we have lounge privileges. Do you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:39 PM Flag
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All members have that, of course im a member. Thats why i enter at the members entrance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:45 PM Flag
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No, only voyager and above. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The lounge is to the right of the main entrance when you enter, right before the coat check. No one would use 81st street and wait in membership line when you could go to the lounge, no wait. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:48 PM Flag
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Fuck you cunt. We go on weekdays we wait on no line. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:52 PM Flag
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Are you a guy? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:56 PM Flag
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Why so angry? There's no member entrance though 81st street is usually a shorter line. now you know. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:57 PM Flag
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^membership lounge is calm, peaceful and has coffee and tea. Never a wait there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:58 PM Flag
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Voyager family membership is a whole whopping 600 dollars. Sooooo exclusive. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:55 PM Flag
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Meh, it's not. But it is a nice perk [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:04 PM Flag
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What is the purpose of the lounge? I have never seen anyone in it. What do you do? Just sit in there and hope that someone sees you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:57 PM Flag
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Lol, of course. Sorry you're upset there's no special entrance! LMAO. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:03 PM Flag
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LOL, this. Np. We enter on 81st street and have NEVER waited in a line of more than 3 people. Never. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:28 PM Flag
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What membership line? Never a line. And you just sit in the lounge for what purpose? My family and I don't want to be in a lounge the we're there, we want to see the museum. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:30 PM Flag
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No, we are staying inside. It is a freezing holiday weekend. We may sneak out for a movie later. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:35 PM Flag
[ - ] Have a wedding in Capri at the end of may. Where else would you travel to with your young kids? Already did positano, greece, south of france, etc....looking for good weather and great hotels. thx 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:03 PM Flag
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Yuppy? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:04 PM Flag
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Entitled kids [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:04 PM Flag
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Rome if you're going to Capri. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:05 PM Flag
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Tuscany and florence [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:07 PM Flag
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Love Spain. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:07 PM Flag
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Wow your kids are lucky! :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:07 PM Flag
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Great, more snobs in the making [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
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Actually, the snob is you. i wish I could give my dc the gift and education of travel. You don't want that for your dc? Weird. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:29 PM Flag
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how long are you going for? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:07 PM Flag
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definitely make a trip to Pompeii - that's just a day trip from Capri [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:09 PM Flag
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so this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:09 PM Flag
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Yep. We regretted not going. We were lazy & couldn't tear ourselves away from Positano [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:04 PM Flag
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Just saw kids are 2&4- wondering if you should save Pompeii till they are a bit older. Sounds like you travel a bit [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:05 PM Flag
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pompeii and herculaneum. Don't miss herculaneum. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:21 PM Flag
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Is the wedding in English? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
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Roma e Napoli [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:12 PM Flag
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How old are your dc? Are they off from school already at that time? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:25 PM Flag
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They are 2 and 4. Did Rome w positano last year!! Should do Pompeii tho! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:54 PM Flag
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did you bring your sitter or nanny? because doing this with a 1 and 3 yo or a 2 and 4 yo sounds unpleasant. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:59 PM Flag
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With kids that young, what does it matter? They'd be fine with a motel in the poconos that had a pool + the local pizza and ice cream parlor [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:56 PM Flag
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Seriously! UB is crazy town. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:58 PM Flag
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At 2 and 4 I would just do a beach. Or a Mediterranean cruise with a good kids club. Or leave them home. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:08 PM Flag
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Sicily was nice. And Corsica. Which would maybe be too far. Or cross over to Croatia? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:10 PM Flag
[ - ] Ok, when will the influx of NYC apts come on the market? When is the real spring market?? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:02 PM Flag
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Late March [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:15 PM Flag
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What are you looking for? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:21 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:32 PM Flag
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Is that a real thing? The market is so so slow now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:32 PM Flag
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Most wait until the last big snow has passed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:33 PM Flag
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Are you looking to rent or for a condo or coop? What area and how big? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:38 PM Flag
[ - ] Petty rant...when I buy or do something fo db...I have two friends who always ask and copy it. Meh, I know get over myself 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:01 PM Flag
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Try and consider it a compliment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:03 PM Flag
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I know...it's just grating on my nerves now. Almost every single item they're buying and copying at this point! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:06 PM Flag
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Must be tough to be such an awesome mom that others want to copy you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:06 PM Flag
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Hahaha I know it's a stupid rant [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:07 PM Flag
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That's what we are supposed to say. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
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I copy others a lot, but I am great source too. What's so wrong, we learn from others. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:08 PM Flag
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One girl pretty much almost copied my entire nursery. I was like ok.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:09 PM Flag
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So what? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:15 PM Flag
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Biological imperative. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:09 PM Flag
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OP sees herself as the alpha female. May or may not be true. The "friends" may be low statua females who are "aping" her success. Who knows?! Whole post couls be fake.: [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:10 PM Flag
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She puts a lot of effort in staging her life and is upset others just come and copy it. Striver. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:19 PM Flag
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Copiers are strivers too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:15 PM Flag
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Whether or not this is true, this reduction of people just made me sad. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:25 PM Flag
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OP is the one who is "reduction of people". [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:16 PM Flag
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Start a trend company. You seem good at it ;-) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:57 PM Flag
[ - ] if i knew then what i know now... 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:00 PM Flag
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I can't. It's too depressing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:09 PM Flag
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i would have moved faraway from my parents, so that i was not dumped on and can swoop in once or twice a year and be the hero. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
[ - ] It is so cold in NYC, we are still in pajamas eating valentines day candy! I can't tell if this is really fun or really gross 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:53 PM Flag
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We are all in sweats and I'm planning to go out and get ingredients to make Valentine's cookies tomorrow, so I vote really fun! :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:56 PM Flag
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Us too! We are in burbs though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:02 PM Flag
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Same here [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Shuh it, you toff. That is all. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:52 PM Flag
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No kidding. Some days I want to bitch slap some of the idiots here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:55 PM Flag
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But you are probably one of the idiots, unbeknownst to you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:57 PM Flag
[ - ] Med student classmate told me "the only true professions are medicine, engineering and law. Stupid things like art, fashion, graphic design are not real professions. Those are just jobs. Anyone can do those things if they put their mind to it." Wdyt? Both my parents are artists and both my siblings are in graphic design, so needless to say I was taken aback by this statement. 89 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:51 PM Flag
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I think she is trying to get under your skin for some reason [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:52 PM Flag
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Of course this. You can be sure the "friend" is less attractive than OP. That's what ugly friends do. Biological. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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You people here have the strangest conversations in your daily lives. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:53 PM Flag
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So dumb there is no point to even respond [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:53 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:00 PM Flag
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This person is just projecting their own insecurity. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:54 PM Flag
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^and possible bitterness over not having any artistic gifts, talents and abilities. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:54 PM Flag
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I was really annoyed by her statement. It takes a lot of talent and drive to make it in the art world (as I've seen with my parents). She actually said "I could easily have become an artist but I didn't because that's not a real profession." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:55 PM Flag
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HA!! Hahaha. so clearly she's an IDIOT. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:00 PM Flag
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Yes. So her "friend" has issues and is competitive. Disengage STAT! [ Reply | More ]
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Yes and OP will not be friends with this person in the future. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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She's right in some ways. Society cannot function without one group but can without the other. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:57 PM Flag
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Unequivocally disagree. What an ignorant statement. [ Reply | More ]
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So, you're thinking society would collapse without fashion art and graphic design? I used to win art contests in high school BTW. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:02 PM Flag
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Your revealing way more of yourself than you realize. [ Reply | More ]
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So, you're thinking the world would collapse without fashion and art? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:08 PM Flag
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This is the last time I'm going to reply to you because you're boring. You clearly have no understanding of the role design plays in our life. As far as artistic expression in all it's forms, of course the world would not be worth living in without it. All of us have a creative drive that we express in our own individual ways. For you to say life can be lived without all the various forms of artistic expression Is saying that we would live in a world without people who have those particular filters that their basic humanistic urge to express and create comes through. But this whole argument is so stupid I can't even deal with it anymore. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:13 PM Flag
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OK. So you agree the world would not collapse in the absence of artistic expression. Great that we agree. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:16 PM Flag
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16? 17? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:45 PM Flag
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The most important thing is health and wellbeing. Art is secondary. We all need food, shelter, goos medical care. Art, design, music can be provided by everyone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:21 PM Flag
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correct use, STEM mom [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:24 PM Flag
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No. There is always fashion and art. No big deal. Art and fashion and can be crappy and it doesn't really matter. If medicine and science ia crappy it matters a great deal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:19 PM Flag
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it is spelled you're in this context, Artist [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:24 PM Flag
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My family is full of artists but I don't think art is important in the grand scheme of things. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:37 PM Flag
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I feel sorry for your stunted soul. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:44 PM Flag
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Yes dear. Saving lives is important. Art has always been around. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:23 PM Flag
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Clearly not Asian ... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:02 PM Flag
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ITTTA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
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Any job that requires certification, acreditation, etc. is a profession. If you can manage money, paint, play a sport, etc. at the highest levels without formal authorization to do it, then it's a job. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:58 PM Flag
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Huh? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:58 PM Flag
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Wrong. Not the only definition of a profession. Is this the same dumb poster making all these idiotic assertions? Be quiet and let the grown ups talk. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:02 PM Flag
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Yes it is. Anything you can teach yourself to do and make a living out of it isn't a profession. It's a developed skill [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:04 PM Flag
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Go look up the definition of a profession. While it includes those jobs that require training the word profession applies to anything that is an occupation. Pays wages etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:08 PM Flag
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ditto but never thought of it this way before. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:25 PM Flag
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When I was in college, I remember hearing that there were 5 professions. I don't remember now what the other two were, and I don't know that I ever knew the rational. I think it had something to do with the level of training available at some point in time? This makes me curious though, I'm going to see if I can find the source. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:03 PM Flag
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I think the other two, when I first heard of them, were architecture and theology. [ Reply | More ]
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^rationale [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:20 PM Flag
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It doesn't surprise me that she said this. I've been around enough doctors to know that most of them lack a certain emotional intelligence and general common sense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:03 PM Flag
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You know how some people pose a situation for analysis on UB? But they flip the roles? I think OP is the person who made the statement. And now she's in the comments trying to defend herself. Just a theory. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:05 PM Flag
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Yes they exposed themselves up top. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:40 PM Flag
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Medicine, engineering, law are jobs for technicians. Theres not very much imagination involved. The other fields are more creative. Its actually more difficult to succeed in them because creativity is somethinf you have to have deep inside, studying and degrees in those fields only help you if you have the creative spark. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
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What about Finance? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:19 PM Flag
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Science is more important. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:28 PM Flag
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Science and medicine is pretty damn important when your kid is dying of cancer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:29 PM Flag
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That just means you have no idea what those friends are. It takes massive creativity to design a space ticket that will survive vacuum. It takes massive creativity to design a computer program that will predict word input in your tablet. It takes massive creativity to design a building that will withstand an earthquake. Stupid people cannot imagine creativity outside drawing outside the line. Simpletons. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:20 PM Flag
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Sorry dum dum, nope [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:30 PM Flag
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You're definitely dumb. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:38 PM Flag
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Definitely, you nailed it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:35 PM Flag
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OMG. Science is fhe most important thing out there! Scientists are way underpaid. It's shameful. Our smartest minds are being wasted on Wall Street. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:28 PM Flag
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Well it's kinda true. My Dad is an artist. But he has had cancer. And people working in cancer resaerch have made him live longer. That's the truth. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:12 PM Flag
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But maybe it is his inner strength that is helping him live longer. His free spirit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:24 PM Flag
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Uh, no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:30 PM Flag
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thank you and good luck to your dad [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:26 PM Flag
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Medicine and engineering counts. Law? Not so much. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:13 PM Flag
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Not in a way but society cannot function without good law. That's not necessarily lawyers but lawyers are a part of it. [ Reply | More ]
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The world would be a better place if science were a higher paying field. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:31 PM Flag
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It's the difference between having a brain or a heart. To understand a culture you look to their arts. [ Reply | More ]
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What does American art look like? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:25 PM Flag
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Idk, go to the Whitney. Honestly? I don't have the time or energy to get into this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:26 PM Flag
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This person arguing is exhausting. Probably a teenager. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:41 PM Flag
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TY. I agree. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:51 PM Flag
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spoken like truly lazy artists [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:27 PM Flag
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cop out [ Reply | More ]
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That is the attitude of immigrants. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:27 PM Flag
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Op here. Wow, you're good. She is not an immigrant, but both her parents are. I agree I think that's where this attitude is coming from. Anyway I don't know why she had to vocalize it to me. She knows my entire family is in the arts. [ Reply | More ]
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When people are in med school, they are actually still very young. It can take a very long time to shake off your parents values. She is probably just saying what she has always heard at home. It is no reflection on you whatsoever. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:33 PM Flag
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I believe the same and I'm 45. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:38 PM Flag
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She is terribly insecure. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:34 PM Flag
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and possibly jealous [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:34 PM Flag
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jealous of being poor and without prestige? hardly [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:28 PM Flag
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pp: Maybe but I would give her the benefit of the doubt and say she is working these ideas out, trying to figure things out for herself. Maybe she is growing and changing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:40 PM Flag
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ha ha ha I posted below. Yes, these are attitudes from a developing country. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:24 PM Flag
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I didn't see this first. Should have read through more slowly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:24 PM Flag
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Ha! don't beat yourself up, we aren't giving you a grade here ;) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:02 PM Flag
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My family is in thw arts too, but scientific progress is more important and also more creative. The creative thought and intelligence (experimenting, learning from experience) is so important and changes the world in ways you can't imagine. And no, I'm not a scientist. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:34 PM Flag
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Some of us, OP included, are actually scientists or in related fields. So why do you think science is changing the world in ways we can't imagine? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:51 PM Flag
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One could argue that any smart person can go to med school, law school or engineering school. However, no matter how smart you are, you cannot learn how to be a very good artist. It's an innate art, IMO, much like singing. You can train in it of course, and practice - but it's difficult to be good enough to make a living in art without that gift within you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:37 PM Flag
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This. So essentially it's more valuable, op. [ Reply | More ]
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No, I've seen artists who practiced into it. And anyway, it's an about notoriety in the arts now. Rhianna, Madonna Taylor Swift, am the stupid painters/artists, they ask suck. [ Reply | More ]
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OR: I am talking about actual artists - visual artists, opera singers and the like. Those who make a living with their art - not celebrities. [ Reply | More ]
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Not as important as scientists and inventors. Never have been and never will be. Get over it. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, they suck. I'm amazed about how celeb obsessed people are. Weird. [ Reply | More ]
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Agree, not everyone can be an artist. My dad is an artist, so am I, ao is DD. Howver, I'm not delusional. The people (who also have creative minds) who work in science, research l, looking for alternative fuels (need super high IQs and creative brains) matter tremendously. [ Reply | More ]
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I would say that scientists who save lives are more important than the Beatles. Yes, I said it. [ Reply | More ]
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Is your friend from a developing country or are her parents? [ Reply | More ]
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I missed that someone else already addressed it. It has more to do with where her parents' home country is at in development than anything else. [ Reply | More ]
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Is your friend from a developing country or are her parents? [ Reply | More ]
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OMG! Stop posting this question! [ Reply | More ]
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Sounds like your friend might not be happy with his chosen path(MD) and is trying to make himself feel better. I don't know many doctors who don't feel that medicine is also an art, BTW. Maybe your friend should pick a different career [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Weather SUCKS in SF right now - has to be like 65 degrees right now, and rain coming this week. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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oh shut up -20 here in ottawa [ Reply | More ]
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Love it [ Reply | More ]
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La Jolla is 86 and sunny you bitches [ Reply | More ]
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shut it, you toff [ Reply | More ]
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too hot [ Reply | More ]
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Too hot. 74 in South Florida. We just went out on our boat. Gorgeous day! [ Reply | More ]
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We left last night for Tahoe. It's beautiful. [ Reply | More ]
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Don't need rain?! [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] 20 weeks pregnant- woke up around 2am with cramping, diarreah, nausea. Was very similar to how I felt when I had a previous miscarriage at 8 weeks... But the whole episode lasted maybe 15-20 minutes and then I felt fine and went back to bed. No bleeding at all and feel fine today and can feel baby moving. Should I contact my doctor today or can it wait till an appointment I have on Wednesday? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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I'd call during the day today [ Reply | More ]
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Could it have been something you ate? [ Reply | More ]
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Possibly [ Reply | More ]
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Definitely call. Anytime you have cramping especially that early and since it was coupled with those other symptoms. Get your cervix checked! [ Reply | More ]
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Yes. Definitely call! [ Reply | More ]
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In a few more weeks your baby is viable. There is stuff you can take to keep labor at bay but you need to be proactive. [ Reply | More ]
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Something similar happened to me during my last pregnancy (with twins) at 17 weeks. Felt fine the next morning but having previously miscarried, was freaked out. Called my doctor and he told me he had had the same bug and it was going around! Sure enough I was fine. Good luck. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] The secret to Asian success is not high IQ or tiger parenting. Whites don't get it. Asians flourish in the U.S. not because of high IQ or tiger parenting. It's because the attitude of Asian families towards education. Asian parents fundamentally believe in accepting responsibilities for their children's academic failures. They don't blame the teachers, the schools, the classmates or anyone else. Asian parents respect teachers, cooperate with schools and often blame themselves first for dcs' failures. They are hard on their children, but they are even harder on themselves. Yes, they may reprimand their kids at home, but they will never show anything but pride outside the house or in front of dc's peers. Asian children in general have much more connected relationships with their parents, not being afraid of failures because they know their parents are there not just to push them, but also to pick them up when they fall. 163 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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All righty! [ Reply | More ]
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that's Jews 50 years ago. that's East Asians and south Asians now. it's also a lot of other groups throughout history, including right now. [ Reply | More ]
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What other groups? [ Reply | More ]
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np - And also many Eastern European immigrants in NYC. [ Reply | More ]
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+1. [ Reply | More ]
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I am one and frankly I don't believe this to be true. I think educational system here is pathatic. I expect a lot from my dcs but I end up having to manage education outside if what the school system offers. I believe many Asian parents do the same thing. [ Reply | More ]
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Jewish families are similar. [ Reply | More ]
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So Asian don't have higher IQ ? [ Reply | More ]
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It's a misconception. [ Reply | More ]
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So, why the stats? [ Reply | More ]
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It's a self-selected survey pool. No one is IQ testing the farmers in the fields. If you're going to test all the Asians who end up going to college, you're going to get very skewed results. [ Reply | More ]
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Uh, they were of school children in the US in various areas. It was also of Asians in schools across the country, including the ones in rural areas. Asians going to college have higher IQ than the reported average. [ Reply | More ]
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I'm going to need a link on that survey population please. [ Reply | More ]
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You're just stupid if you think racial IQ averages were taken of just college bound children anywhere. It is so asinine, I'm not even going to bother. And why is black IQ so low? Did they test only in special needs institutions? You are laughable. [ Reply | More ]
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Unless you can randomly assign groups to a race or ethnicity, none of these studies can be anything more than correlations. [ Reply | More ]
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Uh, how do you assign groups to a race of ethnicity? What do mean the IQ studies are correlational? [ Reply | More ]
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Not true [ Reply | More ]
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Yep. [ Reply | More ]
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The OP is mostly wrong. asian DNA codes for high IQ. You can prove this by looking at Asian babies adopted by whites grow up to have super high Iq [ Reply | More ]
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Oh god please stop. There are billions of Asians who are illiterate. [ Reply | More ]
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I think OR is an ass. But what you're saying is asinine. [ Reply | More ]
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Saying all Asians have a high IQ is asinine. [ Reply | More ]
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Not all, just that the average Asian has higher Iq than the average of other races [ Reply | More ]
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That is not what she said. That's like someone's saying white IQ is 100 but you reply, "my down syndrome niece can't even talk." That's how dumb you're being. [ Reply | More ]
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I can't even with the ignorance here. You and OP can fuck right off. [ Reply | More ]
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Just point out what the op said or I said that translates into every Chinese person having a high IQ. [ Reply | More ]
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No. That does not prove anything. Data pool not large enough. [ Reply | More ]
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I love how people who know nothing about statistics post stuff like this. The data was shown to be statistically significant. You guys are just amazing. [ Reply | More ]
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This. [ Reply | More ]
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IQ tests correlate with education level. Students with better academics tend to do better in IQ tests. It's a self-fufilling circle. [ Reply | More ]
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No, people do things they are good at. High IQ people are good at academics. So they pursue education. [ Reply | More ]
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Asian babies are adopted to wealthy families who can afford it. - Asian-American Mom [ Reply | More ]
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These studies were from adoptions in the sixties and seventies. [ Reply | More ]
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RM [ Reply | More ]
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Asian raciat man. At least find a new way of saying this Shit. How many times have you said "Asian DNA codes for high IQ." You are ESL and have serious OCD. [ Reply | More ]
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There is zero differnce between iq of Asians raised by whites and iq of Asians raised by Asians. [ Reply | More ]
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That's great. But also remember that the price that is bourne from this is that children that want to go an untraditional route (arts, theater, non-engineering jobs) are often fought with at home. Dc's friends have had troubles like this when parents worry that the route their child is going towards is not one that will be successful. Also children that struggle (and yes this happens in all cultures) are also not seen as well b/c society seems to think Asian people are worry free. [ Reply | More ]
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and you think if white dcs want to go to arts and theatre instead of colleges, they don't have to fight at home? [ Reply | More ]
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Mine didn't. I guess I'm not the average family. Name all the successful American born Asian people who are artists and in theater. [ Reply | More ]
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Love it [ Reply | More ]
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Are there more roles for whites or Asian in theatre and films? Why would you encourage your Asian dc to pursue a career that has only a few limited spots? [ Reply | More ]
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What if it was their life dream? [ Reply | More ]
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if it's truly their dream, I bet you the Asian parents will end up supporting their dcs financially where the white parents would not. [ Reply | More ]
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Not been my dc's friends experiences. If anything they just act like dc is a pariah. Some kids are very unhappy. [ Reply | More ]
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Too bad. The can pay for their dreams while earning their professional paycheck. [ Reply | More ]
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Because it's their passion and they can figure it out, like my friend did. Maybe if more people did it it would become more common. Or do you want a doctor who really dreamed of being a ballerina. What if Misty Copeland decided to just work as a medical technician? [ Reply | More ]
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np - There are many Asian dancers and musicians fwiw. [ Reply | More ]
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^^And the fashion business seems to be more and more Asians. Same with design. [ Reply | More ]
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And? The point is of course. But are their families into it or are they the black sheep? That's all I'm saying. [ Reply | More ]
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As long as it's Julliard. Otherwise it's ghetto stuff and no way. [ Reply | More ]
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The school is Juilliard and there are of course other conservatories besides Juilliard. [ Reply | More ]
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Thanks mom. [ Reply | More ]
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Would you encourage your white dc to pursue art and theatre in China? Lol [ Reply | More ]
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Sure why not? [ Reply | More ]
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Why don't you name all the successful Chinese born white people who are artists and in theatre? [ Reply | More ]
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Um, there are so many who are working artists and in the theater. Do you live in NYC or California? [ Reply | More ]
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...children WHO want to go an untraditional route... [ Reply | More ]
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Who ARE you? [ Reply | More ]
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I am Asian ESL. Can't you tell from my writing? [ Reply | More ]
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The OP is nice but she lies to herself. Each race has different DNA. For example, the Australian Aborigines have dna that codes for low iq and Asians have DNA that codes for hgh IQ. You can prove this by lookimg at adoption studies Thousands of aborigines were adopted by educated motivated whites and grew up to have super low Iq. [ Reply | More ]
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Thousands of Asian babies adopted by whites and on average grew up to have high Iq. iq is completely dtermined by DNA. Yes you can try to be a good mom and motivate your child, just know DNA is destiny [ Reply | More ]
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Thanks RAM. Nice to know with your superior IQ you choose to hang with us and waste your life away. Your parents would be sooooo proud of you. [ Reply | More ]
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Right!! Asian Racisf Man has OCD and is "retired", living on disability. Z [ Reply | More ]
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Not completely. [ Reply | More ]
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And their diets and upbringing and prenatal care was factored into that? [ Reply | More ]
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Np: yes. It is not 100% but largely innate. [ Reply | More ]
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And the depression people have is innate to Neaderthals. So all you UB'ers on prozac and xanax must have Neanderthal DNA. Whoo Haa... [ Reply | More ]
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They blame a lot of things on neanderthal (good things, too, but many more bad things). Wonder how much of it is true. [ Reply | More ]
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This. These asian babies were the same [ Reply | More ]
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RM [ Reply | More ]
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You white moms think that environment is why certain people have high Iq. This academic study of ASIAN babies proves otherwise [ Reply | More ]
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In the study, some Asian babies were given to smart motivated upscale erudite white parents to raise. Other Asian babies were given to trialer trash redneck hillbilly whites. [ Reply | More ]
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Both groups of Asians had the same adult Iq. Being raised by trashy hillbilly whites did not hurt their Iq and bring raised by sophisticated erudite whites did not help. It is the DNA [ Reply | More ]
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Cool. One paper. No one says how large the study group is. Just because it cited doesn't mean it's been vetted. I could pull research out of a hat too. [ Reply | More ]
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Not just one paper. Dozens of papers show Asians have higher Iq [ Reply | More ]
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You're just stupid. But if you want to believe that one cluster of people were able to achieve height of world cultures about 600 years ago as well as go from 3rd world GDP to European GDP in 50 years without high intellectual ability, that is your perogrative. [ Reply | More ]
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This [ Reply | More ]
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And yet the majority still make my towels? How is that? Please continue? [ Reply | More ]
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Of course there is some ability, but like a bell curve the noodle makers in the villages don't have the same IQ as the intellectuals and such. In a country of billions you're telling me ALL Chinese people have superb IQ? If so why didn't they overthrow Mao and his minions? Why are so many caught up making towels and sheets and cheap knock off Prada bags? If I were Einstein I'd figure that out. [ Reply | More ]
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The noodle makers have very similar IQ. China does not allow migration between cities. That hampers economic development to a large degree. It does not affect the IQ. [ Reply | More ]
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Lol Sure. That's why. No, I'd think a superior IQ person would figure out a way. [ Reply | More ]
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Figure out a way to do what? [ Reply | More ]
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To increase their economic development. Duh. [ Reply | More ]
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Duh, yourself. Hour are they going to fight the government when they kill you? Again, you're an ignoramus. [ Reply | More ]
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Also, why is Singapore and Hong Kong, two Chinese states without communism, actually richer than the US? [ Reply | More ]
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HK is a communist ruled territory. Reverted away from British rule. Probably b/c most people speak English and the movie companies and entertainment industries were there (Shaw Bros etc). [ Reply | More ]
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That is so stupid. It is not communist ruled. You're ignorant. Their English is horrible. Malaysians speak better English than do Hong Kongers. They are, however, the financial capital of the east. But you wouldn't know that because you're an ignoramus. [ Reply | More ]
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It is a territory of China. [ Reply | More ]
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It is a territory in china like Puerto Rico is an American territory. Have you been to Puerto Rico? They hardly speak English there. You're very ignorant. [ Reply | More ]
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It was British ruled. [ Reply | More ]
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Again, if you travel, you will be dismayed by how quickly they've reverted back to Cantonese. You're just informed enough to be embarrassingly ignorant. [ Reply | More ]
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Because China is communist. Most towels are not made in china, first. But if they were, they're not coming out of shanghai because shanghai income is as high as American income. The majority of northeast Asians are not making your twowels. They're making your cars, computers, phones and electronics. [ Reply | More ]
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Right. For American companies. They are robots for us here in the West, so unless their superior intellect means they want to sit on a factory line day in an day out until they are dead, what's the use of a high IQ? [ Reply | More ]
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No, for their own companies. [ Reply | More ]
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Um, no. The companies are Western. Owned by the West. Why do you think all students from Asia go shopping here in NYC for the best electronics. If you were talking Korea that's another story. Samsung, Kia etc. Name a Chinese computer company--other than Lenovo. [ Reply | More ]
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Uh, Haier? Huawei? ZTE? [ Reply | More ]
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Really? Average American household products? [ Reply | More ]
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Haier is an ubiquitous American brand. But they are Chinese. Why would they produce American goods? They have a population base of 2 billion. Don't you think that's big enough customer base? But they do also produce a large percentage of American products as oem manufacturers. Your ignorance is truly profound. [ Reply | More ]
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They sell to their own people. We don't make their phones. If I had a superior intellect I wouldn't sit around a factory all day putting a chip in a piece of plastic. Their bosses may make a fortune, but the worker makes cents on the dollar. Are you not able to follow the original discussion here? Or are you late to the game? Did you ever stand in line for a Haier washing machine? [ Reply | More ]
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No one stands in line for air conditioners and waking machines. People of superior intellect in Sweden and Finland put chips in plastic all the time. It's called industry. You don't understand because you only understand the consumer end of it. Ignorance. [ Reply | More ]
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When was the last time you stood in line for a phone by Huawei? [ Reply | More ]
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I don't live in china. You don't seem to understand 2 billion in population. [ Reply | More ]
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Of course I do. I also know that I don't sit on a factory floor making consumer goods for people like me. Someone with an average intellect, not superior like EVERY chinese person has like OP states. That is the argument. Keep with it slow poke. [ Reply | More ]
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Op did not say that. You are obfuscating because your argument is weak. China has a giant electronics industry. There are people working in them. Someone has to make the electronics just like the Swedes actually work in Ericsson factories in Sweden "for you." Does that make the Swedes low IQ? Your understanding of the world economies is embarrassing. [ Reply | More ]
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I bet the swedes make more than a cent on the dollar. OR says: asian DNA codes for high IQ. You can prove this by looking at Asian babies adopted by whites grow up to have super high Iq. And??? Super IQ obviously doesn't mean jack if you're on a factory floor somewhere. [ Reply | More ]
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Again, people work in factories, even in Sweden. People have to work. The wages earned there has less to do with intellectual ability than with supply and demand. China has two billion people. Sweden has ten million. You cannot earn a high wage when you have a ready willing able bodied force of two billion. It's like saying college math professors are low IQ because they only earn $35k, well below the median income in the US. But there are just a lot more math graduates than math professorships. Supply and demand. Add econ to the list of things which you need to study. [ Reply | More ]
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Interesting. I think with a superior IQ you'd want to make money or what's the use of it? Or maybe IQ isn't everything which is my argument anyway. If you're going to be earning 35K as a prof. or making towels in a town, does it matter if your IQ is 160 or more? But to OR or OP Asians clearly have superior IQ.s [ Reply | More ]
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IQ is not everything. Political freedoms, free economies and free exchange of ideas are also important. But higher IQs are better than lower IQs. It's what determines economic success of a population in the long run. [ Reply | More ]
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Focus on making money is a relatively recent obsession. [ Reply | More ]
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Shanghai is an anomaly. It is a city that was always Westernized. I'm talking deep water China...backwoods. I have friends that have lived in China for decades. Can't compare what goes on in Shanghai. [ Reply | More ]
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Beijing, Guangzhou, shenzen also quite wealthy. [ Reply | More ]
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Wealth is astounding. Yet so is the abject poverty. If EVERY Chinese person had superior intellect as OP is arguing, then ALL would figure it out. [ Reply | More ]
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No, you cannot discount communism. Look at the GDP gap between South and North Koreas. Look at the income and infrastructure gap between Hanoi and Saigon. You are very ignorant of world situations. [ Reply | More ]
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But, if OP states that EVERY chinese person has a superior IQ, you'd think they'd figure this out, wouldn't you. So either EVERY citizen there doesn't, or having a superior IQ isn't really that worthwhile if you're out in a field or making my iPhone then does it? (follow?). OP thinks this argument is relevant in any way. [ Reply | More ]
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Op did not claim that every Chinese had superior IQ. She is speaking of averages. And averages do matter because when you travel, the difference in standard of living and civility between Hangzhou and Samarkand are night and day. [ Reply | More ]
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No, I'm pretty sure OP is claiming that they are superior. Either they fall onto the bell curve like everyone or they don't as OP seems to be stating. That is the argument. Or else what is the point? [ Reply | More ]
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They fall into a bell curve. It's a bell curve slightly shifted to the right. Study statistics. [ Reply | More ]
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an or states: »The OP is mostly wrong. asian DNA codes for high IQ. You can prove this by looking at Asian babies adopted by whites grow up to have super high Iq. [ Reply | More ]
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In general. She is speaking of averages. As we say, primates have high intelligence. Does that mean every primate has language? Are you really this dumb? [ Reply | More ]
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Np, i heard that wealth produces higher Iq [ Reply | More ]
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Not true at all. The wealthiest countries in the world until recently were kuwait and quatar. The government would import the most expensive and sophisticated teachers from europe. The kids got great teaching great nutrition, [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:55 PM Flag
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Yet teens from quatar and kuwat test as having almost retardation level iq. All the money and education in the world did not overcome the low iq arab dna [ Reply | More ]
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This is true. We used to say Africa had lots human development because they were so rich with resources (oil, diamond, gold, timber, etc.), they didn't need to develop gunman resources. But as you see, Norway is doing just fine after striking it stinking rich with oil. Saudi Arabia, OTOH... [ Reply | More ]
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I don't think you understand that national wealth and standard of living for the average citizen are different things. Perhaps your IQ is not high enough to grasp this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:58 PM Flag
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Wrong. Upper middle class well fed kuwaitis still get low iq test scores. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:01 PM Flag
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Aaaaaaanyway... [ Reply | More ]
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Np: explain. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:05 PM Flag
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Wealthy well fed happy expensively educated Kuwaitis and Quataris get very very low iq test scores. Look it up it is not a secret. Arabs have low Iq dna no matter how rich they get they are still real dumb [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:12 PM Flag
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Lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:15 PM Flag
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But you're not pp. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:21 PM Flag
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Curious how Dubai and Oman are the richest. How's that work? Maybe it's not IQ that counts but resources and ability to hold the West over a barrel (literally). Must be smart to do that. [ Reply | More ]
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No, just have to have oil. When it runs out, they're all just going to be jihadists. [ Reply | More ]
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No, then you'll really have to worry b/c they'll have a nuclear bomb to throw. [ Reply | More ]
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Well, now that Iran will, yes, that is a worry. [ Reply | More ]
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It's all well and good but doesn't explain why they feel the need to come in the US in droves for a better life. Your point would be better proved if it was the other way around. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
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What? America is great if I had a high Iq i would move here too [ Reply | More ]
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Very few immigrants from Korea and Japan now. Some from china but there has been a noticeable drop in immigration to many parts of Europe. Chinese living in shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, etc. do as well as the Spanish, Italians, Maltese, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:23 PM Flag
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they come here for political freedom. [ Reply | More ]
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Here is a good experiment for all you white ladies. Adopt a few arab babies and adopt a few chinese babies. Then in twenty years see who has the higher iq. We both know [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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I'll take a child like Malala any day. [ Reply | More ]
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Ewwww [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:32 PM Flag
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Yes, b/c you're so awesome. [ Reply | More ]
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Compared to that, I am. Definitely. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 09:09 PM Flag
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Not really. You're a dude in your whitey tighty's cramming for your Dalton finals aren't you. Poindexter. [ Reply | More ]
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http://www.famousscientists.org/famous-muslim-arab-persian-scientists-and-their-inventions/ Do a research paper on these fellows and tell me how they didn't contribute to science. [ Reply | More ]
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But they're all 700 years ago, so no dice. [ Reply | More ]
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Shit, they're like 1300 years ago. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:49 PM Flag
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They invented the high falutin sciences you speak so highly of. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:49 PM Flag
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1400 years ago, dude. Backwards. [ Reply | More ]
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I am Asian and my IQ is average, but I was able to do extremely well in SHS two decades ago because other kids were lazy. My dc now with average IQ finds it difficult to keep up in SHS because everyone work hard and not too many are lazy. So he had to stay up till 1 am studying, give up his weekends, etc.. [ Reply | More ]
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If he were average IQ, how did he get into shs? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:35 PM Flag
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because the SHSAT is not an iq test [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:38 PM Flag
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No, but you can't do well on that if you're dullish. [ Reply | More ]
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Shit, they're actually like 1300 years ago. [ Reply | More ]
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And not every Asian kid goes there. duh. [ Reply | More ]
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As an American married into an Asian family, you are absolutely right. Yes they are smart/ high IQ but there is an entire culture behind these kids , of course they would be smarter/ more successful. They are bright and have a lot more support than most American Children. [ Reply | More ]
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There is more support and emphasis on it because it's something they are good at. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:23 PM Flag
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K [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 10:34 PM Flag
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That's the Asian advantage from NYC to Harvard. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 11:11 PM Flag
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^ demanding but supporting family, and parents who give children tough love. [ Reply | More ]
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NOT TRUE! Asian here with a mother who distances herself whenever she thinks I might embarrass her. I'm still waiting her the bitch to get the f**k away from me completely. [ Reply | More ]
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Of course there are always outliers in everything. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 11:25 PM Flag
[ - ] Success Academy parent. Ask me anything. 53 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:34 PM Flag
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no thank you. [ Reply | More ]
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What is most important to you? Whether your own child is treated kindly by the teacher? Or how struggling students are treated by the teacher? [ Reply | More ]
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I want my child to get high test scores [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:46 PM Flag
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I think you are a fake. But if you are real, then are you saying you are happy to have your child learning that struggling students are worthless beings who spoil their own learning and should be shunted to a corner? As long as your child gets high test scores? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:51 PM Flag
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That teacher had a bad day. Ultimately these teachers love our children and work them hard so that they'll succeed. [ Reply | More ]
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You sound like someone justifying an abusive boyfriend's actions. "He really loves her, he was just provoked on that particular day." [ Reply | More ]
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Whatever. Haters gonna hate. [ Reply | More ]
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You are so fake but this will def. go to MP so enjoy it. [ Reply | More ]
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White or black? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:35 PM Flag
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OP White mom black daughter [ Reply | More ]
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What color are your lampshades? Are there any interior design tips or tricks concerning lampshades? I am thinking of having all black shades in the living room. Thoughts? [ Reply | More ]
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why the meen lady go wahhhh [ Reply | More ]
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Why you mia? [ Reply | More ]
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Zagis bey lofwam? [ Reply | More ]
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how many teachers has your child had this year, we pulled ours out because my dc had 5 teachers, because they would just quit from all the stress. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:47 PM Flag
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Just 2. Her 1st teacher left, but they replaced her really quickly. [ Reply | More ]
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"Just" 2? That's not normal, you know. [ Reply | More ]
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They all teach the same. It was no biggie. [ Reply | More ]
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so they are like robots and the children don't get attached? [ Reply | More ]
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SA's secret sauce is recognizing that caring too much about any individual is overrated, as all teachers and students are widgets who exist to be in the service of test scores that justify hedge fund investments in Eva's giant salary. [ Reply | More ]
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My kids are learning. The teachers come in and care. They don't sleep at their desk and ignore my child like yours do. [ Reply | More ]
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wow, did i hit a nerve? [ Reply | More ]
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My kids teachers have been great. They aren't robots. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:22 PM Flag
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you are the one that said, "They all teach the same. It was no biggie." sounds like a script. [ Reply | More ]
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The curriculum guides the teachers so that they know what they are doing. They aren't asleep at the wheel. [ Reply | More ]
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Well, there's the issue. [ Reply | More ]
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Why is this night different from any other night? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:52 PM Flag
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Are we there yet? [ Reply | More ]
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Why come? [ Reply | More ]
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Do you live in East or West Trollandia? [ Reply | More ]
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Like I said. That teacher had a bad day. It was 1 minute of video. Ultimately these teachers love our children and work them hard so they'll succeed. [ Reply | More ]
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I like that SA has managed to script you with talking points, just like they script their teachers and every second of the children's day. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:11 PM Flag
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so this behavior is rewarded at sa and looked down on in public school, interesting. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:14 PM Flag
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OP Kids get higher test scores in Success Academy. That's why we love our teachers. They work our children hard and don't accept lazy. Our children go beyond Z. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:25 PM Flag
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in first grade? 6 year olds need a little more tlc. [ Reply | More ]
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OP 1st graders will be 2nd graders very soon. The teachers don't talk down to children. They have high expectations of my child and my child rises to those expectations. [ Reply | More ]
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You disgust me [ Reply | More ]
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That is a personality defect. No way her behavior in that video was a one off moment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:25 PM Flag
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Total bitch [ Reply | More ]
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Does the world REALLY need to discuss this with experts? LOL Common sense says that she had a bad minute and we could probably ask the teacher in the video about 'expert teaching' and she would not point to this moment as 'ideal". So strange to line up experts to criticize. [ Reply | More ]
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Sorry-- not the SA parent. Did not realize that I was jumping into her post! [ Reply | More ]
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Why don't you stop for one minute to think about why the world has come forward to attack SA? What did SA do wrong that has promoted the anti-SA sentiment which is growing daily? [ Reply | More ]
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Common sense says that that video is probably a normal day. The article said that the assistant teacher who filmed it had already complained about that teacher and filming her behavior was a last resort. Everything about that video is wrong and that child who ran to the calm down seat had clearly been there many times before. [ Reply | More ]
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Which location? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:42 PM Flag
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Prospect Heights. [ Reply | More ]
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Troll. [ Reply | More ]
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I have a first grader and they are at a public school that has a high percentage of children on free/reduced lunch. My kids would be very upset to see a child treated this way. In first grade there is a lot of emphasis put on civil rights and taught about people like MLK, Frederick Douglass, Cesar Chavez, people like that who spoke up and stood up for equality. My kids are taught at school that treating people badly is wrong. Does your school not have this curriculum (I am in California)? This is an honest question. My kids would be traumatized if they had been in that classroom. I am concerned about why the other kids were not traumatized to see a teacher bullying a student. That would concern me greatly as a parent. Are you not concerned? [ Reply | More ]
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I agree. I think there's a line crossed here. I was an assistant many years in classrooms. Once a teacher belittled a little foster child relentless. I finally asked to be transferred from that class. The teacher once had her empty her back pack--apparently no adult had taken the months of papers from her bag (signature papers etc). Teacher kept sternly saying--why didn't you give this to your mom? Why is this still in there (wouldn't a call home have been better?). She also found some crayons in there. She berated the girl for "stealing" the crayons from the class. She turned the girl to the class and said--this girl is a thief. She told ME to lock up my purse because the little kid was a thief. Mind you this teacher went around boasting about Church attendance etc. in the teachers lunchroom. I wanted to smash her face. [ Reply | More ]
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OP It's better to discipline kids than let them run around out of control. Didn't you see how many kids raised their hand to answer the question? That's what no one's talking about because you want to hate on SA. The scholars were happy to keep intellectually engaged. [ Reply | More ]
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No, I don't live in your area and I have nothing against SA. This wasn't about discipline. To me it is like when a parent beats one kid and the others rush in to show they can do whatever it is that the beaten kid did wrong so they don't get beaten too. It is sad. I would not be proud of my child for raising their hand in that environment. I would be sad they were even there. That's what I am asking you. You truly think it is okay for your child to see another child being humiliated at school by their teacher? Please answer this question. Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
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np: Clearly it's a fear tactic and ends up with kids second guessing anything b/c they won't want to be singled out for a wrong answer. I hate this woman. Seriously would demand her dismissal if I were principal. [ Reply | More ]
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OP That teacher had a bad day. On regular days, I think that the competition motivates all the kids to do their best. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 11:26 PM Flag
[ - ] What color are your lampshades? Are there any interior design tips or tricks concerning lampshades? I am thinking of having all black shades in the living room. Thoughts? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Too dark. I had olive green silk for a few years and decided to switch permanently to cream silk. [ Reply | More ]
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Don't too stark. What's wrong with white or off white? Or white with a pattern? What's the rest of your room like? [ Reply | More ]
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I have black lampshades on a few lamps. They are lined in reflective gold so they are brighter. Most of my lampshades are shades of beige. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] How much do you spend per year, in the aggregate? We just added up all of our annual expenses, and realized we are spending over $250K. Which means we need to earn at least $500k to support this and have anything left over. We have a good amount of savings, but still it disgusts me that we spend so much $$. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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130K NYC family of 5 [ Reply | More ]
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What are your biggest areas of spending? NYC cost of living feels like it's gotten so much higher. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:29 PM Flag
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Nanny and tuition. We pay our nanny more than our mortgage, which is insane. [ Reply | More ]
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How many kids? what do you pay? [ Reply | More ]
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The nanny expense gets reduced or comes to an end. If tuition is for pre k this can end too. If private school, that will only increase. [ Reply | More ]
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182,341 last year. [ Reply | More ]
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Are you leaving taxes out as an expense? [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] I posted two days ago about my combined ultrasound (ok) and bloodwork (terrible) results, 29 years old, 13 weeks pg. I saw a genetic counselor with DH on Friday. My PAPP-A levels are incredibly low at 0.18 and I am having amnio done in two weeks. I've been reading forums all night and want to ask here as well. Has anyone had those kind of extremely low levels (it's 1st percentile) and had a healthy baby? Or even a Downs baby, as I now keep reading about fetal demise etc with levels that low. I'm a mess, Dh alrwady made it clear we cannot handle a baby with a disability and I agree with my head, but it's just so hard. 38 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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You need to push to get amnio ASAP, not in two weeks. If you think termination is a possibility, you need to have it done before you get further into the second trimester. I've btdt with a bad nuchal at 12 weeks and a cvs that day. [ Reply | More ]
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I don't think you can have Amnio before 14 weeks, but you can get a CVS. [ Reply | More ]
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Op. That's the problem, doc won't do amnio before 16 weeks. CVS too late. Worst case it will be a late term abortion, all this was brought up at the meeting already, really really difficult. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:27 PM Flag
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Do Maternit21/Panorama/Harmony test - you'll have the results back within the two weeks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:31 PM Flag
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Where are you? Can you find a different doctor? I so feel for you and hoping for a positive outcome. [ Reply | More ]
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Can you get a CVS? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:14 PM Flag
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I think she said that she had one. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:25 PM Flag
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Op. No, too late [ Reply | More ]
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I'm sorry OP. I would be going crazy. Could you get a second opinion on a late CVS? I think that I had one at 13 weeks and I thought they said they could even do it at 14 weeks. This was at my states main research hospital. [ Reply | More ]
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Can you get a CVS? [ Reply | More ]
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I terminated for downs syndrome 3 times, so I feel your pain. Do cvs. Earlier the better. I do have one healthy dd. I don't regret termination, but it is hard. [ Reply | More ]
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NP: Hugs to you, it must be so hard. Curious, is Down Syndrome hereditary, or was it just coincidence? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:19 PM Flag
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Matter of my age and dh age and back luck. Not hereditary. After dd at 43 (ivf) got pg at 44 and 47 or 8 without trying. But obviously old genes. [ Reply | More ]
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Op here. It's complete chance as the genetic counsellor also told DH who assumed it's his fault. There is the age factor but the extra chromosome just happens by chance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:36 PM Flag
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Oh, wow. I'm sorry to hear but glad you have a healthy child. [ Reply | More ]
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Agree. If men had babies it would be a WHOLE different ballgame. Women are treated so differently. Disgusting. [ Reply | More ]
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Don't make everything about sexism. Life is not fair. Some people are born to wealthy parents. Some are born to stupid parents. Some are born in the US. Others in Iraq. We have to deal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:26 PM Flag
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Op. Thank you for your post. Do you mind telling me your Papp-a results? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:28 PM Flag
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I worked as a camp counselor for children with downs for years. They are the most loving, special angels in the world and a gift to any family. I would treasure them not let them go. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, because women are trained to be caretakers, men are not. Take care of yourself. DO NOT let the doctors jerk you around. MEN would never do that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:25 PM Flag
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CVS or AMNIO stat. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:25 PM Flag
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Op. Amnio needs to wait, cvs too late. Harmony only offers "likely" results so we decided since we already are high risk to just go for a definitive diagnostic which is amnio in two weeks [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:35 PM Flag
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Your DH has told you that if you have a Downs Syndrome baby he will leave you. I am being harsh, but that is what he is saying. Protect yourself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:26 PM Flag
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Wtf. He's saying they have to abort. He's right. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:28 PM Flag
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People only think of down syndrome kids as cute but many have bad heart troubles and other issues and die young. It is legitimate not to want to saddle other kids with issues when parents are old/dead. [ Reply | More ]
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Exactly. If I knew they'd only live to say, 40, I'd do it. But what if they outlive me and dh? There have been judges who were family friends who stole from mentally disabled adult children. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:34 PM Flag
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Her dh is right. Most marriages fail anyway under this type of stress [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:31 PM Flag
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Op. I know DH is right. I read about the bad health stats for downs, only living to 50, heart problems, eye problems. I agree with him but of course have watched dozen of YouTube videos of families with a down baby making it work and loving that baby and it made me feel less "strong" for lack of a better word. [ Reply | More ]
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Don't terminate for downs. They will fill your life with love. Terminating will only create sadness. [ Reply | More ]
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This is insane - OP, ignore this poster, who clearly doesn't have a healthy marriage. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:32 PM Flag
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Well, I know a guy whose uncle has Downs and he's in his 50's. Lives now in a home for developmentally challenged adults. His parents set up a trust for him. I'm sure at times things were stressful, but in the end my friend loves his uncle, visits often and has been part of his life for his whole life. [ Reply | More ]
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You are only 29. You have time. If problems, I would terminate and start again. It's no picnic having a healthy kid, [ Reply | More ]
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+1 have to agree [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:06 PM Flag
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OP, no experience with this. Wishing you good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:43 PM Flag
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hi OP, I saw this and wanted to respond. I had an amnio, was pregnant at 42 and had very low levels (don't remember what they were exactly, but low.) The amnio came back fine and my daughter now is 4 and 1/2 & perfect. It's just anecdotal, but the bloodwork is not conclusive. Good luck to you, I will watch this and reply later if you have anything you want to ask me. But try to keep you mind from dwelling until you really know what you are dealing with. [ Reply | More ]
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Will insurance pay for the harmony test? I know it's not diagnostic but it's pretty accurate. It will come back before your amnio. I would also get second opinion about late cvs. Sorry you're going through this! I terminated due to T18 and went on to have three healthy kids after that (and one before). Good luck! [ Reply | More ]
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Op. Thank you for your response. Harmony is not conclusive and since I am already high risk another result like "high risk" would drive me crazy further. I want a definitive answer with the amnio, not a percentage of likelyhood. Good to hear it worked out for you, 4 healthy kids are my dream also :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 08:39 PM Flag
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NP: I did Panorama with DC#2; it was newly available then. With DC#1, I was in your exact situation (he's six now, and fine) and didn't want to go through that stress again. I'm fuzzy on the details (it's been a while), but the Panorama/Harmony/Maternit21 tests actually are definitive, as far as I remember (i.e. you don't get a "1 in..." odds - you get a yes or no). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 11:06 PM Flag
[ - ] I don't have self control when it comes to food? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:08 PM Flag
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I don't know. Do you not? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:08 PM Flag
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When did it become common to end a statement with a question mark? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:11 PM Flag
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I can understand with some statements. But not the op. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:12 PM Flag
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I read this book called The Beck Diet (or something like that - sorry.) It helped me tremendously with my eating urges. You have to write down on index cards your goals, aspirations, blah blah, but I'm telling you, I still read those cards daily and it really helps. I know it sounds very Marin County/granola and I do live in CA but it has been a game changer for me. GL. Losing weight sucks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:26 PM Flag
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Don't care. That is your problem. Your dopamine receptors are too attracted to food. Move on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:26 PM Flag
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Food is your drug of choice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:27 PM Flag
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That's good to know? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:41 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone been to the Arlington Club lately? I'd like to treat a single (divorced with a teenager) 40-something girlfriend to a fun birthday dinner, maybe meet a guy? I read that a couple of years ago, it was quite the scene for older singles. Is that still true? Is the food any good? Suggestions for other places uptown or down are appreciated! 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 02.13.16, 07:07 PM Flag
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Quite literally a meat market. Also try T-Bar, especially on Thursday nights. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:11 PM Flag
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Thanks! How's the food? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:44 PM Flag
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In general, Palm Beach is good this weekend. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:19 PM Flag
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I love my friend, but not that much!!!! Wish flying to PB was an option, but a steak dinner and a bottle of wine will have to do. She's very pretty, lovely person, extrememly fit - but just doesn't get to meet guys so much. Hoping this will be fun for her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:43 PM Flag
[ - ] Does/did anyone send dcs to Little Learning? Thoughts? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:01 PM Flag
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in uws? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:04 PM Flag
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UES [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:04 PM Flag
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It's for parents who aren't satisfied with the 25k they're already spending on preschool [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:10 PM Flag
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Okay. Do people like the program? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.13.16, 07:10 PM Flag
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