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06.11.13, 12:06 AM
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What is an auditory processing disorder?
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06.11.13, 12:23 AM
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low reading scores?
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06.11.13, 12:29 AM
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When the child do not process sounds at an appropriate speed - as in they are better at reading directions and following them than hearing them but to a skewed extent. They also have a hard time learning foreign language in a setting that emphasizes spoken language heavily.
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06.11.13, 12:25 AM
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06.10.13, 10:00 PM
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What is CCT?
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06.10.13, 10:01 PM
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^^CTT--sorry.
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06.10.13, 10:04 PM
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It's now called ICT
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06.11.13, 12:03 AM
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It's a good idea to listen to the opinion of the teacher since she has spent the most time with your kid
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06.10.13, 09:56 PM
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Yes, definitely. The teacher didn't say why, so my first question obviously is why and what benefit does she think it will have. But its after hours so I can't ask her. So I'm venting here. So worried about ds :(
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06.10.13, 10:05 PM
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Yes, you need to have a conference with her about this. She will be expecting to hear from you. Better to get all the help available while he's still this young. GL
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06.10.13, 10:02 PM
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thank you!
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06.10.13, 10:08 PM
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Not always. I had an idiot teacher say things about my child and the educational needs and she was WAY off base.
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06.11.13, 12:03 AM
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Isn't it CTT?
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06.10.13, 10:03 PM
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2 teachers for one class sounds like it would be helpfull
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06.10.13, 09:57 PM
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Op- yes, I would assume so, but then I wonder if bc he will then be in a class of other 'disabled' kids, would the environment be so disruptive that he couldn't learn? I know that sounds terrible...
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06.10.13, 10:10 PM
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In my (good gen ed) school the class is mixed and nobody knows which kids are CTT. I always prefer my (regular) kids in those classes because they get more attention with two teachers.
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06.10.13, 10:49 PM
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I think they are always half IEP kids half non-IEP.
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06.10.13, 10:50 PM
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60/40
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06.11.13, 12:04 AM
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My child was a general ed kid in a CTT class and everyone knows who the ctt kids are. They stay the same every year while the general ed students change.
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06.11.13, 12:04 AM
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Doubtful. SpEd teachers rock!
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06.10.13, 11:57 PM
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I think a CTT class would be a good placement for him, given your post.
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06.10.13, 10:07 PM
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My DS was in CTT for several years through elementary (discharged when he got older.) It was a good experience for him, but what I've heard is that the CTT programs can vary a lot by school. Can you talk to the parents of kids currently in the 3rd grade CTT class? Get their opinion of the teachers. That's the key. Talk to parents of both special ed and gen ed kids to get the full picture.
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06.10.13, 10:03 PM
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this is helpful, thank you. can you think of the types of questions i should ask? also, my concern- posted above- is that perhaps the class would have so many 'disabled' kids that it could slow him down. then again, maybe he's the kid slowing other kids down, i really don't know. i'm just so frustrated and confused.
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06.10.13, 10:07 PM
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I'm sure every class is different but the couple of kids I know in CTT classes are kids who were premies so they have some issues learning but they are bright and not disruptive at all.
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06.10.13, 10:38 PM
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I understand your concern, it's a common one. I did not find that CTT held my DS back at all academically. My DS had moderate speech disorder but was academically advanced. CTT absolutely allowed him to work to his highest level, even though there were others in the class who were not as advanced. Also, regarding the worries about the potentially disruptive kid. My experience was that CTT teachers were very alert to this. One year, there was a child who could not sit still and participate. He was moved to another class before the second week of school. In a later year, there was a child who also was transferred to another school midyear. I heard through the grapevine that it was determined his needs could not be met in CTT so the DOE made a change.
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06.10.13, 10:42 PM
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^^Con't: Ask how the teachers handle disruption. Ask how they handle kids that might be progressing at different speeds, really ask what's on your mind.
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06.10.13, 10:51 PM
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NP, just FYI, my daughter is in a CCT-style preschool, and several of the special needs kids are extremely bright and sweet, they just need different therapies or learning accomodations. It's really not about intelligence--learning disabilities are different than mental delays. The worst behaved, most disruptive boy is a "typically developing" child, btw.
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06.10.13, 11:38 PM
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My dd is in a CTT class (mixed--she's in regular ed, friends are CTT). There are 2 teachers and those kids get a little extra attention. Reg. kids are used as models of how to study etc. Has your child been tested for epilepsy? Zoning out is a type of it.
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06.10.13, 11:35 PM
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just signed back on, sorry. this is really a sign for epilepsy? wow, i didn't know
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06.10.13, 11:58 PM
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OP- thanks for all the responses. helpful!
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06.10.13, 11:59 PM
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OP- thanks for all the responses. helpful!
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06.10.13, 11:59 PM
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OP- thanks for all the responses. helpful!
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06.10.13, 11:59 PM
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06.10.13, 03:28 AM
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They said the same thing to me when DS was in K and First. Now we are forcing them to hold him back in the second. It is about stats and they don't want negative stats.
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06.10.13, 03:37 AM
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yes - but I don't know if you will do it. In public school, if you miss over a certain number of days they are not allowed to pass you. You would have to walk that fine line of keeping your child out of school that number plus one and not having the teacher/principal report you to social services. It can be done, but it takes balls. I feel for you. I don't have the exact same situation - but similar - I managed to keep ds out of K an extra year and it has made all the difference in the world. I was right - "they" were wrong. I wish you and your ds only the best. Keep figthing and don't take no for an answer. Just don't. Every family I know that allowed the schools to push their child thru regrets in - fight mama!
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06.10.13, 03:44 AM
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Parents can demand the child get held back. It is their child, thy have the ultimate say.
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06.10.13, 03:47 AM
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where did you find this information?
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06.10.13, 03:54 AM
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Look in the chancellors regs, call your district superintendent. It is your right as the parent, you have all of the rights.
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06.10.13, 03:56 AM
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I have looked in chancellors regs and have never seen that this is up to the parent. If it's in there, all anyone would ever have to do is print it out and show principal. Where does it say that?
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06.10.13, 03:59 AM
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this may not work for K though since the DOE regularly puts kids from private prek's straight to 1st grade based solely on age. That said, I'd fight like hell to have him repeat K and not promote him.
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06.10.13, 05:01 PM
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Pull him from public. My parents' biggest regret was not holding my brother back in K. Late summer birthday. His life would have been much different.
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06.10.13, 04:22 AM
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06.08.13, 01:48 AM
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And neither will most of their kids, despite the talk. Good luck. She can be happy and successful without 99%.
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06.08.13, 01:51 AM
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The way it sounds is that almost every one of their DC tested 99%.
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06.08.13, 01:53 AM
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^^ but you're right. Thanks for the wisdom
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06.08.13, 01:54 AM
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Hard to believe but some people lie on UB. It's all a sort of bell-shaped curve...lots of kids have to be in the middle and some at the bottom.
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06.08.13, 02:51 AM
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06.08.13, 02:41 AM
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06.08.13, 03:01 AM
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it's not for me. my dc went through EI but also tested great in the G&T
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06.08.13, 02:01 AM
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Uh thanks then
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06.08.13, 02:07 AM
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Yes, it is. I do find that people tend to exaggerate about those things, though. Mine won't test 99% either and is a great kid.
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06.08.13, 01:56 AM
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How old is she?
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06.08.13, 02:07 AM
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5.
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06.08.13, 02:07 AM
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STOP writing off your DD. She'll never test 99% on anything? are you insane? Stop being so insecure and love your DD for the unique and wonderful child she is. Get here whatever help she needs and celebrate her accomplishments. You have no idea what she'll be like in 5 or 10 years. I was always 99%+++ my brother grew up in my shadow. He had some issues. Didn't go to college right away - worked at a gas station (to the horror of the community and family). My parents celebrated every C+ and supported him in his choices. He is super successful as an adult. He went to community college and came out making 80k / year (more than I did after $120k in school). LOVE HER FOR WHO SHE IS.
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06.08.13, 02:24 AM
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Yes yes you're right
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06.08.13, 02:21 AM
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Your assignment for tonight. Make a 'test' for your DD. Stuff she knows that might have been tough for her to 'get' - test her tomorrow. She'll ace it and you can celebrate it. My boys are complete opposites. This competitive world we live in over preschoolers is insane. My oldest didn't say 2 words until he went to school at 3.5. He could do 100 piece puzzles at 2. Even my father 'joked' that he was autistic (which is not something to joke about).. He's just my son. As an adult I understand this stuff much better. Do not compare - just love her and support her - that's your only job.
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06.08.13, 02:45 AM
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You are wise!!
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06.08.13, 03:01 AM
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Just don't worry about it. Most kids won't test 99%
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06.08.13, 02:09 AM
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There are more important characteristics than super intelligence. It actually can be a hinderence to happiness and success because super smart people can be socially awkward. I've been reading outliers and it has really helped me put my worried about my SN child in perspective.
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06.08.13, 02:09 AM
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It's better to be smart than not. And 99% isn't super intelligence anymore.
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06.08.13, 02:11 AM
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It's mostly super prepped
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06.08.13, 02:17 AM
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It doesn't bother me. Most of these "99% or 99x3" parents are delusional. It's never going to happen for most of them either.
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06.08.13, 02:16 AM
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What does this mean? Not happen for them?
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06.08.13, 02:12 AM
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Maybe she means, become President or something.
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06.08.13, 02:21 AM
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or: I meant most of the parents who think g&t and tt schools are the only schools they can stomach, will not get in.
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06.08.13, 02:54 AM
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Yup.
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06.08.13, 02:42 AM
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I know I'm happier.
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06.08.13, 02:40 AM
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Not the gifted stuff, but the mean-spirited talk by people who have no idea what they're talking about and think it's all made up. I don't care what some stranger thinks of my parenting but posters slinging mean words about SN kids upsets me.
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06.08.13, 02:50 AM
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06.08.13, 02:44 AM
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06.08.13, 02:49 AM
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Guy from my private school had to switch to public, he simply couldn't do the work. Parents had him tested, only issue was low IQ. Sweet guy, loved food, they worked with him to find areas where he could succeed and build confidence. By the end of high school he was running his own catering company. He went to culinary school instead of college and now owns a handful of upscale restaurants and is a minor celebrity with a gorgeous wife and great kids. Parents aren't wealthy, but they never gave up on him. Life is a marathon, not a sprint, and college acceptance is not the finish line. You NEVER know how it's going to turn out.
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06.08.13, 02:55 AM
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I LOVE this story, thank you
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06.08.13, 03:05 AM
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I posted above about my brother - he works in healthcare and does very well - 2-year degree at community college +++ after. I may be 'book smart' - but my social skills are non-existant. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses - as parents - our job is simply to celebrate the strengths and help them work on the weaknesses within their abilities. Help them find their niche -- it's so not about who's 3YO can 'read' or preschool admissions. Anyone feeling pride in their 4YO's school acceptance has some pretty major issues to work on.
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06.08.13, 03:27 AM
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agree completely. says much more about parents than about the kids and none of what it says is good.
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06.08.13, 04:12 AM
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06.05.13, 12:55 AM
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Oil or butter...or soap
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06.05.13, 01:03 AM
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Tried soap and oil.. Can't move it and it get more swollen every time I try
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06.05.13, 12:58 AM
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from google... I work in the ER so I frequently face this issue with patients. I use a tourniquet (but any long strip of fabric will work). Lube up the finger then wrap the strip around the finger starting at the tip and working toward the base. Wrap it tight, but not so tight as to totally cut off the blood flow. Wait a few minutes for the fluid to be forced out of the cells then unwrap and quickly remove the ring. You may have to play with how much pressure to use. It works for my about 90% of the time. I hate to cut wedding rings and such, I do what ever I can do save them. Good luck!
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06.05.13, 12:58 AM
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dental floss works too and you can get the ring off while finger is wrapped with it
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06.05.13, 01:16 AM
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Windex.
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06.05.13, 01:08 AM
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Yes a jeweler taught me this.
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06.05.13, 01:39 AM
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can you soak you hand in very cold water for a while to bring down the swelling?
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06.05.13, 01:08 AM
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Here's a trick that works every time. Slip one end of a 12" piece of dental floss between the ring and your finger - you may need to thread the floss onto a needle to work it under if you're super swollen. Wind the floss around the tip of your finger and pull the end that's under the ring taut, unwinding as you work the ring upward. Morticians use this to get rings off of swollen dead tissue without tearing it, and I've used it when I jammed my finger and should normally have had to cut the ring off but this worked.
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06.05.13, 01:30 AM
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Good tip!
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06.05.13, 08:32 AM
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Yikes! Good luck. Please come back and tell us which method worked!
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06.05.13, 01:43 AM
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06.04.13, 12:50 AM
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I don't what that means exactly but I would think that having more time with your SC is not a bad thing. My dc was in EI and we had a lot of therapy and all I can tell you is count your lucky stars you live in NYC (I am assuming you do- maybe you don't??). The system is surprisingly amazing, the service coordinators help you navigate the different therapies and keep tabs on progress, etc. And all for free.
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06.04.13, 12:48 AM
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If my SC worked like you described, I wouldn't have any qualm. But she in fact wasted a lot of time trying to convince me to keep two non performing therapists on. I believe this is how she used up my quota. I just called a mommy friend of mine who asked if I have to pay for the extra time quota requested by the SC myself. Does anyone know?
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06.04.13, 01:09 AM
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Hmm, i'd try for a new service coordinator. what agency are you with?
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06.04.13, 01:23 AM
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I know for sure that we have to change the agency...would like to be anonymous right now. Thank you for your understanding.
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06.04.13, 01:19 AM
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Great to see EI is a sham for taxpayers.
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06.04.13, 12:53 AM
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it is not. stop being inflammatory and jumping ahead. the fact is that confronting developmental issues at a very young age is a much less expensive option than dealing with those same kids down the road with issues unchecked.
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06.04.13, 12:55 AM
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EI is bullshit. Some kids are immature, some kids develop more slowly, some kids are just plain retards. All the EI in the world doesnt change the natural trajectory of the kid.
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06.04.13, 01:05 AM
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You are highly misinformed.
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06.04.13, 01:14 AM
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+1 million
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06.04.13, 01:22 AM
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Yep, EI pretty much changed my child's life but believe what you will.
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06.04.13, 01:35 AM
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Your terminology is a bit rude but I basically agree with you. If your child has autism, ABA is the way to go. Not EI
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06.04.13, 01:19 AM
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autism is just one of many developmental delays. to make a blanket statement about EI being bs is pretty stupid
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06.04.13, 01:23 AM
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You get ABA through EI.
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06.04.13, 01:33 AM
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I respectfully disagree. Please see my comments above.
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06.04.13, 01:14 AM
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06.04.13, 01:23 AM
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IGNORANT x million
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06.04.13, 01:16 AM
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why are you on the SN board if you don't believe in intervention?
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06.04.13, 01:25 AM
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The good therapists are really good. They helped my son tremendously. It could be that he is just developing certain skills slowly. But as a parent, one can never just wait-and-see and regret not taking actions earlier.
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06.04.13, 01:12 AM
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exactly
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06.04.13, 01:17 AM
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I've got an excellent service coordinator from a small agency that used only therapists from other agencies that only did the specific therapy that was needed. you are right, an agency that does it all will have incentives to use itself for everything. find a better service coordinator.
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06.04.13, 01:18 AM
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Thank you for the advice. Agencies recommended to me are at full capacity right now. Will try again in July.
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06.04.13, 01:17 AM
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So no one actually had to request extra time quota for their service coordinator?
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06.04.13, 01:26 AM
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So no one actually had to request extra time quota for their service coordinator?
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06.04.13, 01:26 AM
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05.20.13, 12:52 AM
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Nope but I'm watching this bc my kid probably will!!
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05.20.13, 01:15 AM
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My ds has it as part of his IEP. He sees a counselor 1/2 hour a week at school. TOTAL waste of time and I can't express that enough. I had it taken out of his IEP this year. The "counselor" is not qualified. It may be different at each school.
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05.18.13, 09:08 PM
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No way, kids pick that up from older kids. Teenagers often say horrible shit and preteens copy. They stop in college usually.
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05.18.13, 09:10 PM
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College student here: it really doesn't stop. The athletes are usually the worst offenders when it comes to stuff like this (both the men's and women's teams)
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05.18.13, 09:12 PM
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Do they really mean it or is it just a stock phrase? I'm not condoning it, I'm just curious. I have college age cousins who hang out with friends who are gay and they all say it.
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05.18.13, 09:15 PM
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I'm honestly not sure. Some probably do and others are probably doing it to fit in with the 'macho' image
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05.18.13, 09:21 PM
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No, they don't.
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05.18.13, 11:16 PM
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If a 5 yr old said that I'd wonder more about home, but at 13 - it's all about the peer group. Those girls may have the kindest parents in the world, they may not, but what you're hearing and seeing says more about who they are hanging out with than anything else.
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05.18.13, 09:22 PM
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Ha - I view it like this - I think "you are so gay" has a nice ring to it when cursing/acting a fool much like "you son of a bitch"...there are some curses and phrases that just stick well even though it's not PC to say them.
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05.19.13, 12:07 AM
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05.16.13, 10:15 PM
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Get a second opinion before you waste your money. Tons of kids (especially 1st born and dual language) don't speak until 3 - 3.5. All kids are different. My first barely said a word until 3.5 when he went to school. #2 came out babbling and hasn't shut up since. There are pros and cons to both.
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05.16.13, 10:18 PM
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I agree with above, get a second opinion. We took 1st to speech therapist. It took him a couple of years to stop talking like her. She would teach him to say things like "dino" when he was perfectly capable of saying "dinosaur". She would say "I.WANT.the.ball.please." instead of "May I have the ball, please." For the next 2 or so years ds would continue to put the emphasis on "want" and robotically pronounce each word. So again, get a second opinion.
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05.16.13, 10:23 PM
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+1 my brother didn't speak until 4 and has a genious iq. I spoke at 1 and do not.
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05.16.13, 10:35 PM
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If she does not qualify for EI don't do it. She will come into her own. 20 years ago it would never have come up on any Peds radar.
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05.16.13, 10:19 PM
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We are in Park Slope and work with Lori Genna. She is absolutely fabulous and our daughter took to her immediately. Similar situation, she is understanding everything and has some single words but wasn't combining words at all. Now while working with Lori her language and word combinations are expanding. I can't say enough good things about her! Plus, she will come to your home or dd's school. Contact number is 917-903-2448.
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05.16.13, 10:23 PM
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Have her evaluated under CPSE.
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05.16.13, 10:30 PM
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CPSE it for 3+
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05.16.13, 10:27 PM
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np-Yes, but start the eval process now.
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05.16.13, 10:37 PM
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I dont think you can before 2.9
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05.16.13, 10:37 PM
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Yes I was told I had to wait until 2.9 to evaluate for CPSE
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05.16.13, 11:15 PM
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Ditto. Love Lori Genna! She works at NYU Medical Center-Rusk Institute and does private therapy also. She has tons of experience with kids speech therapy. She has done wonders for our ds. I sit in on his sessions at home and she teaches me what to practice with him during the rest of the week. Highly recommend her!
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05.16.13, 10:27 PM
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While it's true that some kids come into their own, others do not. Our ds was almost 5 y/o and still very speech and language delayed. He did qualify for CPSE but the therapist they sent were just abysmal. They either didn't show up, showed up late, or seemed as if they had no clue what to do with our son. Lori has been fabulous, experience definitely shows, and we are willing to pay for it. To each his own. As I said some kids may grow into their own, but others may not and we have found that waiting was not the answer for our son. In our opinion, if there is a true issue, the earlier a professional can intervene the better.
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05.16.13, 10:42 PM
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Totally agree- I found our CPSE therapist to be horrible. We called and asked for a new one and she was just as horrible. Although its a free service, it's as the saying goes "you get what you pay for." If you are truly worried about your son, I'd see if your insurance will pay for it and either take him to an office or try a private practioner. We decided to go private route bc of convenience at home, and our insurance reimbursed us for about 75% of it. Ask your insurance if they will remimburse you for "out-of-network" providers.
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05.16.13, 10:56 PM
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We use park slope communication center, but aren't in love with them. Thinking of trying someone new.
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05.16.13, 10:44 PM
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yeah we went there for awhile. was kind of dirty and dingy. have a new therapist now.
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05.16.13, 11:01 PM
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who is your new therapist?
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05.16.13, 11:02 PM
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We are in Carrol Gardens and also use Lori Genna. I have found her to be outstanding. We have a special needs child. I am not the type of person to right reviews or give recommendations often. But she is that good. She is so knowledgeable, so nice, and her experience at NYU has helped her really know what to do to help our daughter, as well as point us in the direction of other professionals that we needed to see to get comprehensive treatment for our daughter. She has made so many gains, we are so proud of our little girl!
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05.16.13, 11:00 PM
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05.14.13, 12:27 PM
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You should call and make sure that they received it and that there isn't someone else you need to send it to (our school "lost" mine the first time). Stay on top of the process since it is late in year you may not get through the process until next fall. Good Luck!
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05.14.13, 01:37 PM
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They called me already and an evaluation is 'being scheduled'! But it was funny, they definitely tried to talk me out of doing the evaluation. If I hadn't known that I have pretty much an absolute right to it, I likely would have been dissuaded. Annoying. Also makes me wonder how certain other children of parents (recent immigrants who don't speak english as well, etc) get the help they need when the schools certainly don't help you to understand your rights. The counselor- who btw doesnt know my child from Adam so would have little idea of what his issues are- was trying to discourage me from doing it and I had to ask her point blank whether she was telling me that I *couldn't* have one. She hemmed and hawed and said she wasn't saying no, and I then had to say "well, I have asked for one in writing and I am confirming that request here on the phone. I WANT an evaluation for my dc." It stinks that the schools are like this.
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05.15.13, 01:42 PM
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05.02.13, 06:16 PM
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Time will tell. Try homeschooling next yr with a group or thru a charter
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05.02.13, 06:31 PM
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Have you done this? Really thinking about it. Have a smaller sibling at home, but we could figure it out...
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05.02.13, 06:32 PM
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I don't blame his therapist. Its very young for an ADHD diagnosis.
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05.02.13, 06:56 PM
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Oh believe me, I agree and I really would rather he not be diagnosed this way. We are just trying to do everything we can to help him right now and sadly, it just looks like the signs are pointing this direction.
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05.02.13, 07:29 PM
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Did you read the nytimes article that attribs many ADHD cases to sleep disorders?
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05.03.13, 06:49 PM
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