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04.26.13, 05:15 PM
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...and? Is there a question in there?
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04.26.13, 05:15 PM
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can I hit on the rabbi?
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04.26.13, 05:17 PM
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lol
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04.26.13, 05:16 PM
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is it wrong to ask for lobster?
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04.26.13, 05:14 PM
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lol
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04.26.13, 05:15 PM
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do i have to dance the horah?
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04.26.13, 05:16 PM
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If you don't, you'll look like a whore-ah.
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04.26.13, 05:27 PM
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Whoops. How much to give as gift.
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04.26.13, 05:17 PM
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Give money in multiples of $18. I'd say absolute minimum $54.
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04.26.13, 05:16 PM
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150
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04.26.13, 05:13 PM
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144
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04.26.13, 05:23 PM
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Op: Thank u. Had no idea of the 18.
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04.26.13, 05:26 PM
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If it's a good friend, I'd give between $50 and $80.
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04.26.13, 05:51 PM
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^^PS I'm Jewish, and you don't have to do the multiples of 18 thing.
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04.26.13, 05:51 PM
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04.26.13, 11:34 AM
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I hear the DL at PS 165 is better, and that as a whole PS 165 is a better school. I am also applying to District 3 DL programs, and If those were my two choices I would have no doubt.
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04.26.13, 02:54 PM
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I've yet to hear a good thing about PS 145.
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04.26.13, 04:01 PM
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165 has a great DL program-- total immersion, they learn all subjects in both languages. The program is established.
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05.01.13, 08:15 PM
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04.26.13, 09:55 AM
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We did not tour PS 75, but toured 165 and liked it (our zoned school) - in fact, we are going to register there this morning!
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04.26.13, 10:56 AM
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I preferred 75 - 165 was too rigid for me, discipline wise...but some parents like that, so go with the vibe that feels right.
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04.26.13, 01:13 PM
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My DD attended K at PS165 for dual language for about a month several years ago. The teacher was really great (but also very pregnant, so we knew we would not have her long). All the students, except my DD, came from homes that were predominantly Spanish speaking, and my impression was that far less than half the parents spoke English, which left me a bit isolated because I don't speak Spanish. DH does and was fine though. I did not like the drop off, which was very chaotic, at the door to the cafeteria. Parents are not allowed to take K kids to the class rooms. I thought the principal at the time was more focused on dual language kids than the overall standards at the school, and I thought she was a horrible organizer. For instance, at an event at which all the teachers were presented, rather than take them up on the stage to present them, they were scattered throughout the auditorium, so you missed who they were most of the time, and couldn't hear them anyways. This is about five years ago though, so she may have changed.
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04.26.13, 01:18 PM
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why only a month?
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04.26.13, 04:01 PM
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We got an offer from a charter school that we liked better at the time.
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04.27.13, 01:57 AM
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04.25.13, 02:51 PM
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Westchester. Stay with your own kind.
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04.25.13, 02:52 PM
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Depends, if OP or DH work midtown, Westchester can be much easier commute. If Wall Street, Brooklyn can be easier. Any area with good public schools will not be chearp.
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04.25.13, 02:55 PM
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OP: what is "your own kind"?
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04.25.13, 02:51 PM
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UES side kind of people.
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04.25.13, 02:59 PM
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I agree, especially if there is a desire for "good public schools"
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04.25.13, 02:59 PM
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carroll gardens, cobble hill, brooklyn heights
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04.25.13, 02:54 PM
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these are great neighborhoods. park slope is very safe and close to the park but more expensive. forte greene is nice with beautiful brownstones, but the schools are not very good and safety is a bit tricky in the area as many incomes are trying to live with one another.
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04.25.13, 03:37 PM
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actually carroll gardens, cobble hill and BH are all more expensive than Park Slope
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04.25.13, 04:34 PM
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not a lot of big 3 bedrooms in these neighborhood because most are in brownstones. You can't get large 3 bedroom in BH for under 1.5 - unless co-op with very high monthly charges.
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04.25.13, 04:35 PM
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These are the only 3 that would feel ok to you coming from UES. All are safe and family friendly and have good schools.
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04.25.13, 04:33 PM
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Depends on your budget and your priorities.
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04.25.13, 02:55 PM
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budget: $1.5M.
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04.25.13, 02:51 PM
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I'm hard-pressed to believe you can get a better deal in a nice Bklyn neighborhood on that budget than you can on the UES.
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04.25.13, 02:54 PM
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There's no inventory for a large 3 bedroom on the UES for $1.5M. For that you have to inch closer to $2M
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04.25.13, 02:55 PM
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well look at brooklyn and you won't get a large 3 bedroom in a nice neighborhood for that either
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04.25.13, 02:57 PM
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I don't know if I'd agree.
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04.25.13, 03:03 PM
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it's partially underground and ground level. Yuck. Can you imagine the dirt and bugs you'd get in your home? Who cares whether it's in the UES or Brooklyn, who wants to live underground??
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04.25.13, 03:03 PM
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with outdoor space? are you nuts?
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04.25.13, 03:10 PM
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your bedrooms are on ground floor. No, I'm not nuts. I don't like people who can climb into my windows, nor do I like bugs, rats, dirt inside where I live. Been there, done that in Brooklyn!
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04.25.13, 03:14 PM
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Ha. We have bedrooms on the ground floor. Nothing like that. It's lovely. Looks out at garden. No rats, bugs, only dirt if we bring it on purpose.
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04.25.13, 03:25 PM
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Wow, that's a gorgeous apartment.
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04.25.13, 03:07 PM
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Oh that's very pretty. Too bad about the 3rd bedroom.
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04.25.13, 03:23 PM
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That's a two bedroom.
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04.25.13, 03:27 PM
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the 3rd bedroom is not technically a bedroom.
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04.25.13, 03:36 PM
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agree
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04.25.13, 02:56 PM
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Go east of 2nd ave. Not hard to find a 3 bedroom in that budget plus that area is rapidly growing value with the second ave subway line.
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04.25.13, 03:34 PM
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this is not true. we live east of 2nd now, and there's no inventory for a real 3 bedroom in that price range.
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04.25.13, 03:40 PM
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there are. look harder.
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04.25.13, 04:08 PM
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np: I think it depends how you define "a real 3BR". Our apt is technically a conv 3BR and if you were to convert, the 3rd BR would definitely be small. However, the apt is 1400 sq ft which is bigger than many "real" 3BR we looked at, with the 2nd BR nearly as large as the Master. And ours is well under 1.5M and in a DM bldg.
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04.25.13, 04:47 PM
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park slope.
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04.25.13, 03:01 PM
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+2
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04.25.13, 03:01 PM
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Completely agree!!! Loved being near the park and walkable to everything when I had db while living there.
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04.25.13, 03:37 PM
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I would focus on the school zones. Find out as much as you can about the schools, and shop for your apartment by zone.
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04.25.13, 03:18 PM
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If you are strategic, you can find an apartment on the UES in your budget. Our building on E 79th occasionally has 3 BR in your price range (they come up about one or twice a year).
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04.25.13, 03:20 PM
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Park Slope, Prospect Heights, Brooklyn Heights, Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens for amazing public schools. Of these, Prospect Heights is most affordable. Fort Greene and Clinton Hill if you want to do private.
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04.25.13, 04:11 PM
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04.25.13, 02:51 PM
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All depends on your budget. Brooklyn is really expensive now. So wish I had bought in Brooklyn Heights when I lived there years ago!!
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04.25.13, 02:48 PM
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You should also consider parts of Queens. Forest Hills is beautiful. I am dying to buy a mansion in Forest Hills Gardens.
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04.25.13, 02:57 PM
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OP: we have looked at Forest Hills Gardens, but weren't so sold on the public school there
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04.25.13, 02:59 PM
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OR: Really? PS 101, 144, and 196 are great schools. Can I ask what you didnt like about them?
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04.25.13, 03:05 PM
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it may be non-pc to say this, but while Forest Hills Gardens is quite upscale and lovely, the rest of FH isn't. The Public School represented that diversity, and not in a good way.
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04.25.13, 03:04 PM
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04.25.13, 02:27 AM
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Hi. I was born and raised in Queens. I recommend Astoria. There is more to do there. It is a vibrant community and the restaurants are much better than what they have in LIC. Just don't get a car because parking is a nightmare...especially the closer you,are to Ditmars or Steinway St.
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04.25.13, 02:30 AM
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Thanks. Any particular areas you would recommend (especially considering
I have a toddler...)
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04.25.13, 02:37 AM
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By the water...by Ditmars..there are many families in that section...(closer to LGA). Steinway is more commercial, and tends to have more singles/younger people.
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04.25.13, 02:40 AM
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Raised in Astoria here as well! If you're planning on making this a long-term move, Ditmars area is your best bet. There is more a solid community there with good schools and a good park and a neighborly feeling. LIC is new and has cushy amenities, but I get the feeling that most of the families are in transit - they stay there a few years, and then they leave - but who knows, the community is growing, so it might change. The broadway/30 ave areas have gentrified towards the 20something crowd so while there's fun bars and stuff I think for a family you're better off in Ditmars area. I grew up there in the 90's and nothing but amazing memories... love it so much!
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04.25.13, 03:44 AM
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Only if you ask politely, say please.
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04.25.13, 02:36 AM
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Pretty please
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04.25.13, 02:38 AM
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Only if you ask politely, say please.
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04.25.13, 02:36 AM
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Only if you ask politely, say please.
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04.25.13, 02:36 AM
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Astoria: cheaper, more school options, more established (restaurants, supermarkets, etc)
LIC: newer, prettier (waterfront) and commute to Manhattan can be a bit shorter
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04.25.13, 02:36 AM
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^^^ but you can't go wrong with either one, I think BK is overrated
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04.25.13, 02:37 AM
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I owuld choose LIC because I like the proximity of the city and the waterfront. But, Astoria is much cheaper and there is more of a community feel.
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04.25.13, 02:45 AM
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Love Astoria, Ditmars way too far. Lots of awesome restaurants and vintage stores popping up, lots of great food shopping. Friend got 1 bd there for 1450$ a couple of months ago. Chose a prewar building. So pretty. You should take the N train one day and walk around. Get off at Broaday or 30th avenue.
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04.25.13, 03:15 AM
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04.24.13, 11:31 PM
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NY mag did a big article about it a few weeks ago.
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04.24.13, 11:29 PM
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Yeah, what's interesting is how poorly nearly every player comes off.
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04.24.13, 11:39 PM
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Hi Matt.
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04.24.13, 11:29 PM
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I NEVER liked her, but I will say this: she has stayed 100% professional since that debacle. She has NOT opened her mouth and said a single negative statement about the network or her co-hosts. She could have created a HUGE stink and been let out of her contract, but she did not. I would have.
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04.24.13, 11:30 PM
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OP: What?? What do you mean, she never opened her mouth? SHE CRIED ON TV AND MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THE WHOLE THING was happening TO her, that she was a VICTIM. She made it look very bad, pulled away from Matt as he tried to kiss her (supposedly from what I read). I mean, apparently her last day on air was cringeworthy as she went off script and delivered this "I'm sorry I couldn't carry the baton all the way..." [sob sob].... And if you think for ONE MINUTE that she isn't an OFF THE RECORD source for these articles and Stelter's book, I have a bridge I want to sell you....
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04.24.13, 11:38 PM
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Matt's the one who wouldn't hide how much he disliked her on every show. I totally understand on get last day, with a horrible send off, not wanting to touch the guy. I thought she handled it really well considering.
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04.25.13, 12:03 AM
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Matt? Or his yucky wife?
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04.25.13, 12:24 AM
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I agree. They basically fired her and made her work her last day right after that.
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04.25.13, 01:21 AM
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don't know why but I have always liked Ann Curry. Matt seems like a jerk!
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04.24.13, 11:36 PM
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I think she's cool.
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04.24.13, 11:45 PM
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ITA. I am so over Ann Curry. I am actually starting to feel sympathetic towards Matt Lauer.
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04.24.13, 11:52 PM
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Who has time to watch the Today show?
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04.24.13, 11:58 PM
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I agree with the OP. I also remember all the news stories from around 2005, after she bought a townhouse in the West 70s. Apparently she was doing major renovations for years and it started to drive the neighbors crazy, and they ended up suing her. One neighbor had a wall of her home destroyed by the workers blasting through Ann Curry's home. They definitely said she was not a very nice person.
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04.25.13, 12:07 AM
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The New York Post
October 17, 2005 Monday
ANIMOSITY 'BUILDS' FOR 'TODAY' STAR
The city has ordered celebrity newscaster Ann Curry to take down a penthouse on the roof of her Upper West Side brownstone - or face down furious neighbors in a public hearing.
The "Today Show" morning anchor has been locked in a bitter battle with neighbors of her West 71st Street home ever since she began a major renovation job shortly after buying the four-story building in November 2003.
Neighbor Lynne Lummel said the penthouse height is only part of the nightmare that has plagued her for the past two years. Construction crews working on Curry's home have flooded Lummel's walls, sliced up their chimneys and sent soot coursing through her home, she said.
At first, Curry seemed like she wanted to make amends, and appeared just as sincere as she does on TV, Lummel said.
"You know, the furrowed brow, the leaning forward, the let-me-feel-your-pain thing?" said Lummel.
But talks broke down in June, and they now communicate through lawyers.
Last week, the city's Landmarks Preservation Commission told Curry she would have to shorten the 18-foot penthouse or argue in a public hearing why an exception should be made for them, said Diane Jackier, a Landmarks Preservation spokeswoman.
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04.25.13, 12:10 AM
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Maybe she doesn't care. I imagine she's made enough money that she doesn't really need to work ever again.
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04.25.13, 12:31 AM
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Didn't follow anything except that she was super annoying - couldn't read a teleprompter - always had her foot in her mouth. They did the right thing kicking her to the curb and can't imagine why it was a big thing because she got an insanely huge package, no?
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04.25.13, 12:53 AM
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I agree with you. I hate Matt Lauer, but Ann Curry wasn't meant for that job with any partner. I thought it was funny the NY Mag article stole the NYT Mag's thunder and had way more juicy tidbits.
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04.25.13, 12:57 AM
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04.24.13, 07:00 PM
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Useless grief. My guess is that you have marked yourself as crazy parents. You sound a little crazy.
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04.24.13, 07:07 PM
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The school has to provide services on your IEP. Are they doing so? You don't get to pick the therapist in a public school setting. Have you talked to the principal?
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04.24.13, 07:28 PM
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I have and she is supportive - acknowledges problems with the service provider and wants to help, but can't authorize an RSA letter which has to come from the district.
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04.24.13, 08:39 PM
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They will provide the service with this provider, but given her behavior (not just toward us but toward others as well, I honestly don't want DD to meet with her.
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04.24.13, 08:41 PM
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Get a lawyer involved.
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04.24.13, 07:36 PM
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The problem is that we'll probably spend as much on the lawyer as we will on the service, with no guarantee of an outcome. Which I guess gets me back to useless grief, but thank you for the feedback.
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04.24.13, 08:40 PM
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Yes. Go over her head to the Director of Special Education.
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04.24.13, 03:35 PM
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It's not a "law." It's a rule in most buildings. They can't force you to get wall to wall. Also, your furniture is covering a percentage of your floor area.
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04.24.13, 03:36 PM
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So what are my obligations with this? Both owner and us are owners. We don't wear shoes in the apartment and already have rugs in every room. My older dc is in school all day and does hw when gets home. My younger dc is 2.5 and does walk around a lot. We don't allow ball play in the apartment, we don't have any banging toys. They are just complaining about kid's foot steps. Our building is well insulated for sound so it can't possibly be that bad and the 2 year old is in sleeping from 7 pm to 7 am.
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04.24.13, 03:42 PM
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we had a similar problem, it eventually escalated to the point where they made us get a sound engineer to confirm we were within the law. clearly we were and you will be too.
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04.24.13, 03:51 PM
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It's usually a requirement found in rental leases or bylaws/rules of buildings. Usually saying somehting like 80% of the floor must be covered by carpet or other sound dampening material. I would argue that space covered by furniture counts.
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04.24.13, 03:33 PM
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So do they go through the apartment and measure? If you include kitchen and bathrooms into the sq/ft then I am sure we would have to have wall to wall to accomplish the 80%
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04.24.13, 03:43 PM
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i posted above - it is 80% throughout and they cannot require wall to wall carpeting. do you have runners in halls?
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04.24.13, 03:52 PM
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np I highly doubt bathrooms are counted. Probably not even kitchens--particularly if they're galley style and all work area
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04.24.13, 03:58 PM
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rugs are fine
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04.24.13, 03:34 PM
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Um- it is a law in NYC. All multi-unit buildings in NYC have this rule. Whether it's enforced is building by building, but if your neighbor is a big enough pain in the ass, then yes, you would have to provide covering on 80% of the area (less bathroom, hallways, closet, kitchen, etc)
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04.24.13, 03:37 PM
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TY. Are you sure it is less bathrooms, hallways, closets, and kitchen? If so, we already have area rugs covering 80%. What now?
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04.24.13, 03:44 PM
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^^we also don't wear shoes in the house. the only way we could make less noise is to not have children.
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04.24.13, 03:45 PM
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or not be in the apt at all
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04.24.13, 03:41 PM
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true. obviously this is not feasible.
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04.24.13, 03:48 PM
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don't tell me, your downstairs neighbor is an old and crazy single person.
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04.24.13, 03:53 PM
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bingo
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04.24.13, 03:57 PM
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it's the WORST
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04.24.13, 04:02 PM
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ah haaa
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04.24.13, 05:35 PM
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Rules and laws are two different things.
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04.24.13, 03:45 PM
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No law, just an urban legend, look it up. OP, personally, I'm ignoring my neighbors and there's not a damn thing they can do
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04.24.13, 03:58 PM
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Given that there are exclusions for bathroom, etc. I'd ask the manager or super to come up and measure your rugs verus required area and determine exactly how many square feet you're short. Maybe you just have to buy another throw rug to get you over 80%.
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04.24.13, 03:45 PM
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op: I expect we have 80% covered as is if we can exclude hallways, bathrooms, and kitchen
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04.24.13, 03:49 PM
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^so whatever noise we make will not go away
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04.24.13, 03:49 PM
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np: I doubt you exclude hallways
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04.24.13, 03:55 PM
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np Ita. They'd be prime noise generators being that their sole function is to walk through. I need to get a runner for ours. But it's very long and I'm having a hard time finding something. Neighbors have complained, too. Bought carpets for all other spaces/rooms, fwiw. Also have 2.5 yo.
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04.24.13, 03:55 PM
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do you want the name of a rug guy? he will send you pics online, then bring samples to your apt. but you have to provide him with measurements, and he pretty much has persian type rugs only.
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04.24.13, 04:07 PM
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We had this problem and found rugs on overstock.com. Hated what i was seeing in stores but loved what we found there - though we did have to do 2, because our hallway is so long.
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04.24.13, 05:54 PM
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I doubt you can exclude hallways--why should you? We had a big problem with this with our downstairs neighbor (childless) in my old apartment. I bought thick rug pads for underneath the carpets, which I think helped a lot (and it's good for the carpet). Do you have these? I also made sure to have the carpets in heavily-trodden areas like the hallway. My apartment kind of looked like the Silk Road, with all these carpets strewn about, but that's how it goes. Beyond that, I'd agree that you just need to get your super to confirm you've gotten to 80% and then you're done. But I know how it feels -- it's such a drag to worry about neighbors and noise.
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04.24.13, 04:23 PM
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get rug padding--don't just put the rugs on bare floor. makes a huge difference--get extra thick for high traffic areas.
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04.24.13, 06:42 PM
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THIS
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04.24.13, 08:48 PM
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04.24.13, 02:23 PM
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Yikes. I would forgive but that's me. Ask yourself how you would have acted if you were in her shoes. Have you ever accidentally over scheduled or been tempted to break plans to do something else?
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04.24.13, 02:19 PM
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she lied and blew off op
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04.24.13, 02:20 PM
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this. not as good of a friend as op thinks she is...that's too bad.
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04.24.13, 02:23 PM
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I know. It's not cool. That's why I said yikes. But I think it happens and we've all been at least tempted. If OP would never in a million years do this, then cut friend loose. If she can understand how this might happen, then I think it's ok to say, I don't appreciate being treated like that but I understand that things come up. Next time please be honest with me. Then the friendship can continue and OP will see if this is an ongoing problem if a onetime mistake.
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04.24.13, 02:25 PM
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She didn't blow her off. Way if someone had already invited her out and she thought it sounded like fun. If OP was already gone what difference does it make? Would hurt my feelings for a bit, but as long as it is a one off, I wouldn't worry about it
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04.24.13, 03:41 PM
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ugh! give her the stink eye and be cold so she knows you are not pleased with her
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04.24.13, 02:20 PM
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OP: unfortunately not that easy. DSs are best friends and we share pick up drop off for almost all activities
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04.24.13, 02:42 PM
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ask her why she didn't call your cell phone and invite you out with the group
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04.24.13, 02:26 PM
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do not do this
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04.24.13, 02:36 PM
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why?
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04.24.13, 02:42 PM
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Pathetic
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04.24.13, 03:28 PM
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NP: IDA. Her friend may not have thought of it. Asking this would shame her about lying. If indeed she didn't want to hang with OP, better that OP knows. Displaying vulnerability is nothing to be ashamed of imo.
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04.25.13, 01:32 AM
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Eh - it happens. Give her the benefit of the doubt that she did think she had something else to do. You'll know soon enough if she's going to continue blowing you off.
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04.24.13, 02:21 PM
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she lied, she sucks, but you need to not let it bother you. I would no longer consider her a good friend but would be friendly and take the friendshp with a grain of salt.
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04.24.13, 02:28 PM
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Let it go; everyone's been on either end of that at one point or another. It sounds like she had a matching pit and she felt sucky about it...whether "it" was not feeling like explaining, telling a white lie to not let you know you weren't invited. Maybe she just wanted to be with a friend and not you, but not for malicious reasons (I have a good friend going through a separation; other friends would know her, and might want to join us, but I know she needs to talk about serious stuff and not just socialize.)
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04.24.13, 02:28 PM
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OP: thank you
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04.24.13, 02:47 PM
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PP: That said, she should have been direct and said something like, "I'm seeing X; I can't really talk about specifics, but she's going through something, and I know she's wanted the chance to talk about serious stuff. Let's try for another time." But so many of us are people pleasers. Hopefully the pit in her* stomach will make her more forthright next time. You sound sensitive and a good friend; if it's just this, try to assume the best, not the worst, of her motives.
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04.24.13, 03:21 PM
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Np: I like your thinking and rationalizing.
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04.25.13, 01:34 AM
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Wise woman above.
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04.24.13, 04:31 PM
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I doubt she feels better. I'm sure she's glad she has taken care of speaking to you, but I bet she still feels pretty lame for lying. I imagine she fretted all night that you saw her. I don't think she's an awful person, but I think she should have just said she had other plans rather than lying. Some people are kind of bad at bowing out of things. If you think that your friendship is waning or that you're fighting harder for it, then maybe you should take a step back. Let her be the one to initiate the next plans and then make a call when that happens about whether you want to go.
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04.24.13, 02:24 PM
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Good advice. Some friendships run their course. It's fine.
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04.24.13, 02:37 PM
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OP: i think, well thought, that our friendship was closer than ever. we became friendly because of our kids and became friends very easily. i have always had more of a quality than quantity perspective when it comes to friends and this just felt awful.
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04.24.13, 02:50 PM
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She's an ass. Try not to let it get you down.
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04.24.13, 02:24 PM
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this
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04.24.13, 02:39 PM
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You're too good for this bitch. I know it doesn't help, but I'm hating her for making you feel this way.
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04.24.13, 02:40 PM
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I wouldn't do anything other than consider that maybe she isn't such a good friend. she would no longer be the first person i call tohang out, especially since i'm not her first call.
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04.24.13, 02:41 PM
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Good friend? Doesnt seem like a friend to me. Not sure why people throw the word 'friend' around like they throw the word 'love' around.
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04.24.13, 02:42 PM
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This was a Chelsea Lately episode this week!
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04.24.13, 03:04 PM
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Would you prefer she said, I already have plans with this group so maybe later? Or would you have expected to be included?
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04.24.13, 03:45 PM
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OP: i would have had no problem at all if she had been honest. i am friendly, but not friends, with the people she was with and would have had no expectation to be included.
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04.24.13, 04:01 PM
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if she had not seen you and assumed you saw her, do you think she would have said anything?
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04.24.13, 04:26 PM
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