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[ - ] If rent in Manhattan do you mind sharing your basic spec - bdroom, bathroom, sq ft, neighborhood and rent? 17 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.24.13, 05:51 PM Flag

2 bedroom; 1 bathroom; 800 sq ft; inwood; $1300 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:56 PM Flag

HOLY CRAP, are you serious? What am I doing in Queens? I feel like I need a passport just to get to work. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:19 PM Flag

2bed/2bath, 1900 sq foot loftspace, south of midtown, $6000. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:10 PM Flag

Nice space! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:17 PM Flag

Yea. We are really lucky and love it. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:27 PM Flag

How did you find it? Did you pay a fee? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:48 PM Flag

I think DH found it through streateasy or something. He ended up locating the realestate lister directly, so we didn't pay any fee. (I think the family who owned the place payed their agent). [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:53 PM Flag

Jr. 4/1bath; ~800 sq. ft, UES (East of Lex), $3800 (going to $3950 this summer) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:26 PM Flag

how many kids? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:48 PM Flag

no kids yet but we could fit in with one comfortably. the family that lived here before us had one child in what is dining room - they put up temporary wall. The space is ~10x12 with lots of window so plenty big for one child. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:57 PM Flag

1 bed 1 bath 800 sq ft $3200 full service white glove building with pool [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:51 PM Flag

About 5' x 7', combined sink/toilet, free. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:05 PM Flag

No, taxpayer funded. :) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:24 PM Flag

True. And I thank y'all every day! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:32 PM Flag

2BR, 2BA, 1000sqft, Roosevelt Island, $3100 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:54 PM Flag

Can't beat our mortgage of $4300, 3 bed, 3 bath, 2000 sqft, UWS. we were paying more in rent for a place in midtown that was signicantly smaller. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.26.13, 02:32 AM Flag

2 br 1 ba. 950 sq ft. Mort and main 3000. uuws. 1dc [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.26.13, 12:57 PM Flag

[ - ] How do you think NYC will fare after we elect a new mayor? Who do you want to win and why? I think it is downhill from here. I don't like any of the candidates. For all that I disagree with Bloomberg on many things, he is a more competent manager than any of those on the horizon. JMO. 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.24.13, 05:32 PM Flag

Worse [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:34 PM Flag

I hate Bloomberg, he has only improved life for the wealthy. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:35 PM Flag

I don't love him but he has kept the city safe. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:45 PM Flag

Meh, at the expense of all the other things that make the city awesome. The city was far cooler when I was a kid. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:50 PM Flag

Yes. Like dustbowls in CP and porn theaters in Times Square. And murder upon murder. The good ol' days! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:01 PM Flag

Bloomberg does not get credit for murder rate down in NYC. Or Giuliani. Its down everywhere. And I agree- the past 2 decades NYC has become a city for the super wealthy and its so depressing. I grew up here and it feels like home, but I will never be able to make a life here for my family. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.27.13, 02:07 PM Flag

it will definitely be worse. I think De Blasio is the best of a bad bunch. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:43 PM Flag

I think the candidates are mediocre at best and because of that, I'm afraid Weiner will win. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:53 PM Flag

Every single one of the candidates scares me including Weiner. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:24 PM Flag

Will be worse [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:20 PM Flag

it will become a craphole. really eager to get out of here. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:48 PM Flag

kind of like the 70s? I wonder. I think is the best NY will be for a long time. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:09 AM Flag

Bloomberg is a billionaire, and therefore many people kiss his ass and / or fear him. This is the problem. And this is why there's good press. He's NOT a good manager. He sucks. The city is worse. Except for the bike lanes. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.27.13, 02:54 AM Flag

this is so true. Many people kiss his ass b/c they are afraid of losing money if they are on his shit list. I know someone who is the executive director of a small museum and she can't say publicly anything against his admin at all or else she knows her funding will be radically cut. He's very punitive about people who disagree with him and that seems like a BAD manager to me, unwilling to hear criticism or disagreement. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.27.13, 02:22 PM Flag

[ - ] Anyone here planning to use Citibike? What will you use it for? Commuting, recreation? What are your thoughts on the placement of the kiosks in your neighborhood? 43 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.24.13, 04:30 PM Flag

I was initially intrigued, as there is a rack right outside our building, and right next to my office downtown. But DH tells me that its on the price-side-- so don't really see an advantage over taking a cab/bus. DH thinks its for tourists. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:32 PM Flag

the advantage would be no pollution and exercise... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:29 PM Flag

so how will the ambulance and fire trucks pull up to your building with the bike racks blocking it? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:36 PM Flag

Well they are not right in front of our entrance, so I guess trucks can still pull up without trouble. Not the first concern I had, actually. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:42 PM Flag

The same way they do when there's scaffolding on the building or double-parked fed ex trucks or parked cars or dumpsters due to construction or security bollards or... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:37 PM Flag

same as before, obviously [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:57 PM Flag

np. Isn't anannual subscription/membership somethink like $100 per year? That's not what I'd call pricey. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:38 PM Flag

>>> Ugh. annual [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:35 PM Flag

OR: Ok. I just looked it up. DH was wrong. It is $100/year for membership, and that gives you an unlimited number of 45 minute rides. Or $10/day ($25/week) for unlimited 30 minute rides. That is good. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:41 PM Flag

the bikes are very heavy [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:42 PM Flag

That didn't stop Bostonians. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 07:22 PM Flag

There's an additional hourly (I believe) fee. NYT had a good article on it yesterday. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:38 PM Flag

If you go beyond 45 minutes per ride, yes. But how often will most people do that, realistically? And you can also stop at any Citibike rack to return the bike then immediately check it out again to avoid the overcharge, if you're really determined to avoid the extra fee. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:44 PM Flag

OP. I don't plan to use it. It is expensive enough to discourage me from recreation and I don't commute anymore, but my commute was only about 10 blocks when I did it. I don't understand why they don't leave a wide gap between the two racks when they install them. People have to walk a long way around, and the point about ambulances and such is a good one. Garbage pickup is going to be an issue too. There is so little sidewalk access from the street. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:42 PM Flag

The first 30 minutes are free, which is great and similar to Paris' Velib, but the price after 30 minutes is outrageous ($4 for second half-hour and $9 for the half hour after that.) In Paris if the bike dock you want to return your bike to is full, you can get a free extra 15 minutes to find another dock. I don't see that option with Citibike. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:36 PM Flag

Looks like they are discouraging use beyond 30-45 minutes. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:46 PM Flag

So if the bike rack is full, not only do you have the inconvenience of having to find another bike rack (which could also be full), BUT the clock keeps ticking? That's ridiculous. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:46 PM Flag

I would expect that these are going to be used a lot, and empty bike racks are not going to be a huge concern (but perhaps so at night?) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:53 PM Flag

The first 45 minutes are free with the annual membership. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:10 PM Flag

But tourists aren't going to buy that, so their costs will be quite a bit higher. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:24 PM Flag

And? That's sort of the nature of being a tourist. When I sublet an apartment in Paris I didn't complain that my per night cost was more than the per night cost to the apartment's real tenant, who rents it on a monthly basis. Nor did I complain about the cost of a single entry to the Louvre, even though I know people who live in Paris get a better deal in the long run with their annual memberships. That's just how these things work. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:35 PM Flag

But tourists aren't going to buy that, so their costs will be quite a bit higher. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:24 PM Flag

Just posted about this too. Anyone know how much it will be? Will they have helmets too? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:36 PM Flag

No helmets. Here is the pricing: http://www.citibikenyc.com/pricing [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:45 PM Flag

http://citibikenyc.com/pricing [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:46 PM Flag

Yes helmets. Free helmets available on maiden lane. I don't know exactly how that works. I'd buy my own. Not sharing a helmet. Ick. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 07:26 PM Flag

DH is planning to use it for commuting. There's a rack right outside our building and another at his office. It should be about 20-25 minutes each way and will be a huge money saver over taxis, which is how dh usually gets to work. his office is in Tribeca and there's no decent public transport option for him, and the walk is long enough that it's inconvenient most mornings. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:45 PM Flag

I own a great bike so I won't be using it. I agree with what they're trying to do environmentally and all, but imagine it will be a pita for residents and motorists. People who don't ride bikes regularly and are familiar with NYC traffic and roads have no place on the road. They cause traffic, delays, take up space and are a nuisance to other cyclists. I've also seen a Citibike bicycle...not what I consider a bike worth riding. Plus the prices are ridiculous. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:47 PM Flag

Yes, the thought of more tourists on bikes in NYC traffic kind of scares me. I suppose this scheme can be worth it if you use it to commute with the yearly fee and don't feel like storing a bike. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:49 PM Flag

THIS. I loath the idiot tourists on bikes in Central Park, and the thought of them on the streets makes me cringe. Dumb fools. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:03 PM Flag

I dont have a place to keep a bike, or to leave one if I want to shop or use it to go to work. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:03 PM Flag

That's what locks are for. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:17 PM Flag

np. A lock doesn't stop people from messing with your bike. Sure, maybe no one will steal it, but it can still end up trashed. No way would I leave my bike on the street for more than a few minutes at a time. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 07:17 PM Flag

i first want to see if it makes biking in the city safer overall. meaning, there might be safety in numbers, cars can't ignore dozens of bikes, drivers will get used to bikes everywhere. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:59 PM Flag

I cant wait for it to come my neighbohood. I live right off of CPW, can cut through park, leave it and walk to work. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:02 PM Flag

No. I am 100% opposed to increasing the number of bikers in the city, it's not safe or smart. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:53 PM Flag

If you want safety, do all you can to reduce the number of automobiles in the city. A bike can't realistically kill someone, but a car sure can. And car drivers aren't in any danger *themselves* around bikes and pedestrians, unlike cyclists who will be thrown off the bike. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:30 PM Flag

a bike can MOST certainly kill someone. you are wrong and it has happened in the city already [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:05 PM Flag

np: The only documented case I have ever seen of someone who was not cycling and whose death was attributed to a cyclist was a very elderly man who was run into by a delivery person and died of a heart attack. (This is not to minimize the serious injuries people have suffered by being knocked down by cyclists!) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 07:11 PM Flag

nnp. I don't know about NYC, but a few pedestrians here in SF were killed by cyclists last year. It happens. It does seem like the elderly are more vulnerable. Not because they're having heart attacks, but they tend to be frailer obviously. I'm dreading the day when some cyclist hits a stroller and kills someone's baby. It's going to happen and the shitstorm will be epic. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 07:32 PM Flag

The big problem with cyclists is that they don't obey the traffic laws. They think stop lights don't apply to them. Many are quite arrogant about it. If they behaved like cars, they wouldn't make pedestrians so nervous. I've known more people who have been hit by bikes in the city than cars. Sure, they didn't die, but one was in a coma for 4 days. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:39 PM Flag

np. I haven't ridden a bike in years, and I wouldn't want to ride one in the city, ever, but let's not pin all the blame on the cyclists. Have you paid any attention to how pedestrians behave? Everyone jaywalks. They cross against the lights, they cross in the middle of the block, they're plugged in to their iPhones listening to music and posting on Instagram while in the middle of the street--you name it. I've seen pedestrians cause accidents or near accidents more often than I've seen the opposite. Which isn't to say cyclists are all great, but in general pedestrians are much worse and there are way more of them. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 07:10 PM Flag

I'm worried about all these bikers with no helmets. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:42 PM Flag

[ - ] Is MoMath worth it? 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.23.13, 10:09 PM Flag

No. Very disappointing. NY Hall of Science in Queens is much better. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 10:22 PM Flag

And it is very expensive for what it is. There is very little explanation of the exhibits. I am a math person, and the exhibits did not teach much and some were just poorly designed. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 11:24 PM Flag

Mathematica Exhibit at the NY Hall of Science: http://www.nysci.org/explore/exhibitions/mathematicaSummary/mathematicaExhibits [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 11:31 PM Flag

Thanks we're going to nysci the first weekend in June so I guess we will skip MoMath. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 12:36 AM Flag

Agreed [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 11:21 PM Flag

very small but worth a visit. you won't spend more than an hour, tops. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 10:48 PM Flag

Did you go downstairs? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 11:39 PM Flag

Yes, if you have low expectations. It's small, but my kids had fun there for a couple of hours. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 10:59 PM Flag

My kids love it. Small but there's lots to think through. So, it's more intense than most museums. Not just for kids. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 11:39 PM Flag

[ - ] end of day can not come soon enough. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.23.13, 08:32 PM Flag

Hang in. Tomorrow Friday, then long weekend!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 09:35 PM Flag

[ - ] S/O. After having wonderful DS, was told that I could not have more DBs. "Are you going to adopt" is among the first question asked by all of my friends. The answer is no. I wish I could have more, but I am fortunate to have the DS that I have. One friend, with four DCs told me that I was selfish. I asked her if that was how she felt, why didn't she consider adoption after her first. She said it was not the same. WHY??? 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.23.13, 07:54 PM Flag

She sounds like the kind of friend you don't need. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:55 PM Flag

If you weren't so selfish you'd clearly understand! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:02 PM Flag

Totally - the nerve of some people! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:02 PM Flag

That stinks. Does she mean you're selfish in only having one dc or in not being willing to adopt? I know when we were talking about having an only, people told me I was being selfish and that it was unfair to my dc not to get a sibling. Not sure if that was more annoying or all the people who tell me that it's unfair of me to make my 2 boys share a room! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:04 PM Flag

OP: I asked her to clarify and she said that I was selfish for not adopting when we were "planning on having more children anyway." [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:07 PM Flag

Bye bye [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:18 PM Flag

ditto -- lose this friend. who says stuff like that? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:28 PM Flag

Gawd, ditch her [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:49 PM Flag

Selfish is having kids when you don't want them more than ANYTHING!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:03 PM Flag

Adopt a new friend. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:10 PM Flag

this! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:25 PM Flag

People are so ignorant. Who tells a woman who was recently told that she was infertile that she's selfish for not obtaining more children?! Who does that?? Where are these people coming from?? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:10 PM Flag

Please don't adopt. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:18 PM Flag

Explain? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:25 PM Flag

What's wrong with an only child?? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:23 PM Flag

I have an only DS. He is 10. I always make sure he is with a community of kids at school, our co-op and and upstate nabe. I thought I would adopt a second but it was just too much with working full time and no help. this woman is a frenemy. I would drop her. we all have to do what is right in our situation. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 12:32 AM Flag

Don't listen. People throw adoption around like its the simplest thing in the world. Such simple thinking. Some if the most fabulous people I know are only children. Ignore them. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:32 PM Flag

thank you [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:35 PM Flag

You have to ignore anyone who even thinks that having 1 DC (whether by choice or not) is selfish. Ignore as in REALLY ignore -- don't give it a second thought, treat it like a kid's tantrum and let them yack away while you mentally compose your grocery list. Then shut it down with some, "well, we've chosen different paths, and I think we'll just have to leave it that way." Don't talk to this person about personal matters any more. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:19 PM Flag

> Oh, and I'm an adoptive mom, and we hate people like her. Adoption is not some selfless, altruistic thing you do to show how open-minded or giving or generous you are. You do it because that's how you want to form your family, and it works in some circumstances and not others. She knows jackshit about adoption. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:20 PM Flag

[ - ] just saw an UB post and I swear I know the poster. has that ever happened to you? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.23.13, 07:44 PM Flag

Yes. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:53 PM Flag

Yup. Too many times... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:53 PM Flag

From where? Close friend? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:20 PM Flag

Yes. I spot my sister pretty often (and she does the same). [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:59 PM Flag

Someone who just posted two things sounds EXACTLY like me... maybe I'm who you're thinking of? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:12 PM Flag

Is it French Pedicure Mom? Because she is icky. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:16 PM Flag

Is it eyebrow mom? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:20 PM Flag

yes, and I am always surprised! but i would never say anything! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:26 PM Flag

the thing is that...sometimes I see things that I could have posted myself. Various explanations: 1. people sometimes post things they have heard from acquaintances (who knows the f why) as though they are the person it happened to or 2. a lot of experiences/attitudes/sayings/relationships are more universal that narcissistic humans, such as we all are, want to believe. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:12 AM Flag

I think I saw Inmate Mom in court once. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 12:23 PM Flag

[ - ] Moving to NYC. What is the best way to find a no fee apartment - Willing to look in UWS, upper Hell's Kitchen, Morningside Heights, Central Harlem. 2 middle schoolers. Will attend private. Want at least 2 bdroom/2bath. Does not need to be fancy, but want clean and working appliances. Will to do a walk up. Don't need a doorman. Maximum budget $4500. Any ideas for me? 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.23.13, 03:57 PM Flag

Light a candle to your patron saint and try Craigslist. It is pretty hard. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:53 PM Flag

Craigslist [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:53 PM Flag

Try Eberhardt Brothers (spelling?) and Urbanedge no fee apartments sites [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:57 PM Flag

2 good sites: Streeteasy and NYBits. Or this article on Brick Underground: http://www.brickunderground.com/blog/2012/01/8_best_websites_for_finding_a_no_fee_apt_in_new_york_city [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:13 PM Flag

Look up the rental managers on nybits.com. Look for their web-sites and check there. Ditto Eberhart Brothers, they have a daily e-mail with vacancies. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:15 PM Flag

Try the Glenwood bldg in Hell's kitchen. You can get a 2 bedroom there with nice amenities If you are willing to slightly expand your budget to $4700 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:18 PM Flag

From OP - thanks to all who are replying [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:26 PM Flag

I believe Archstone has a building in HK, check out TF Cornerstone, Glenwood and Related Rentals. There is a building called the Helena on the far west side, The Ellington is on 8th Ave. If you do Craigslist, just keep reading the ads for a few days. Then you will be able to spot the few real listings and weed out the shady stupid bait & switch postings. Brokers post even under "by owner" so always ask if this is a broker and if there is any commission. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:33 PM Flag

Or just call the management companies directly and ask for the contact info for their on-site agents. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:32 PM Flag

Another ? from OP - If we use a broker, what is standard fee. I was quoted 15% of 1st years rent (north of 7K). Is this typical? Are you able to negotiate down? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:37 PM Flag

Yes 15% is standard, but some are willing to negotiate, not very often though. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:45 PM Flag

I used to work in RE and used Gabriel's No Fee Apt Guide invaluable. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:58 PM Flag

[ - ] It is amazing to me and really sad how a conversation about childbirth classes and giving birth can become once again "I am better then you" "I judge you" conversation on Urban Baby. Really I don't think guys are like this. Why are we women so petty? I really wish people could just for once be some what nice and supportive to each other. lets face it, we all have issues and no one is perfect, wouldn't it be nice to try to support each other instead of trash talking or talking down? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.23.13, 01:23 PM Flag

Yes it would. I don't know why people have this sick insecure need to knock others down. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:34 PM Flag

new here? but yeah, of course I agree with you. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:51 PM Flag

Link to the post on childbirth classes? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:37 PM Flag

Sing it, sister! We women are our own worst enemy. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:45 PM Flag

I'm not sure what you're talking about exactly, but I have noticed that UBers very quickly personalize posts about childbirth. For example, there are statistically many unnecessary C-sections in the US. I think that would be an interesting thing to talk about, that a lot of women would be pissed that doctors take decisions out of our hands for non-medical reasons. In other words, I think that conversation could unite us, it could be about female solidarity, about us women supporting each other. But posters here assume you are saying THEIR C-section was unnecessary if you even bring it up. I have no idea if YOURS was necessary. Let's just say it was. We still have a huge problem in the US, in doctors' attitudes towards healthy, uncomplicated childbirths, and we can ask together that it be addressed. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:51 PM Flag

I agree. I am the OP here, not new to UB. I posted a few days ago about childbirth classes. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:02 PM Flag

OP - I posted a few days ago asking people where they took childbirth prep classes. I thought this is a pretty straight forward post. I got so many responses like "only idiots take classes" and when I tried to explain saying I was not out to question my doctor just be informed as to what my options are...boy people just either laughed, like "honey you will not even care" or "you think you read a couple of books and now you are an expert" it blew me away how many women could care less about what is happening to their body? regardless of choice about pain meds, I believe that all women we should support them, some epidural is wonderful, some birth centers are great and for yes some csection is the best option, why judge, why not support, birth is an experiece, amazing, scary, transformative, no matter which way you go. I just was floored by the responses,...so sad [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:05 PM Flag

It is because they have done it and are trying to help you. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:52 PM Flag

NP: Or it's because they had bad birth experiences and they don't even know it can be good. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 09:25 PM Flag

that's how we made it as a species to the 21st century: judging everything. duh. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:29 PM Flag

[ - ] ATTENTION SUTTON PLACE/UES MOMS- Was at the playground on 61st street and York Avenue today starting at 4 PM. There were the laziest, sloppiest looking nannies all sitting around on the benches chatting with each other ( I am sure you can all imagine this picture!) who were supposed to be watching toddlers- and these kids were just running loose, some not even two years old!! If you see something, please..say something!! We cannot let these nannies get away with this behavior. It's so important to let them know they are being watched, observed. These are our children!! If you know any moms who have their nannies take them to this park please let them know. 33 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.23.13, 12:10 AM Flag

Really lady ..... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:17 AM Flag

Mind your business. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:18 AM Flag

It's depressing to watch [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:37 AM Flag

Well, I'm surprised you have time to watch. Aren't you busy going down the slide with your toddler? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:35 AM Flag

I'm playing with my kid, as are all the other parents. Can't help but notice the kids that are being neglected and ignored. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:07 AM Flag

Yes the mommies should be minding their own kids. Agreed. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:03 AM Flag

Running loose on the playground? NO! Not that! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:24 AM Flag

LOL.....This!!!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:39 AM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:21 AM Flag

Toddlers running loose? AT A PLAYGROUND??? OMG! This must be addressed!!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:25 AM Flag

I know, right. Someone should have called the police. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:40 AM Flag

Hi lazy nanny! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:41 AM Flag

Nope just a non helicopter mom who gives her kids a little freedom to roam. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:48 AM Flag

freedom to roam is one thing. Neglect is another. You think it's the former. People on the playground know it is the latter. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:44 AM Flag

These are nanny replies. Any mom that stays home knows exactly how these kids are treated. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:07 AM Flag

nannies suck [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:31 AM Flag

Nannies absolutely suck. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:41 AM Flag

You get what you pay for. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:32 AM Flag

not necessarily. I've seen nannies who could play the part in a movie neglect the kids (and I am sure they are paid plenty) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:38 AM Flag

Would you like them to be wearing leashes? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:29 AM Flag

I get what you are talking about. Moms/ grandparents watching the kids are interacting, playing with, talking to, and talking about the kids they are with. It is hard for me to watch nannies completely ignore, disregard, and not acknowledge the kids they are watching. Huge divide in how the kids are treated. It's not fair for them. Some of my friends have nannies,and at school pickup it just bothers me how those kids are treated as opposed to the parents/ grandparents pickings them up. For god sake , the kid is 2 yo, can you at least pretend to be happy to see this kid?! Don't you think the child is going to notice how happy the other parents are picking their kids up?! Bothers me to no end. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:36 AM Flag

yes but that's life [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:38 AM Flag

I feel bad for them, they are so little. Still babies. The moms / GP's carry their kids to their cars. Nanny barely looks at the kid and let's them lag behind 10 steps. Sad [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:40 AM Flag

Why does a child old enough to be in school need to be carried to the car? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:51 AM Flag

They are 2 years old. Busy parking lot [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:06 AM Flag

Nannies are all kindly and wise. Didn't you know that? I can't count the number of times some kid gets hurt, screaming, and the good nannies and the moms on the playground just run around looking for the caregiver - who is yapping away or on her phone. saw a baby fall on his face once, crying hysterically, nanny refused to pick him up saying "He'll get smart" (he was about 15 months old maybe? I'm sure her employer was agonizing over the nanny's end of year bonus... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:35 AM Flag

Maybe mom needs to raise her family. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:05 AM Flag

mom can raise her family and hire a great nanny - it IS an extra job though, to manage and monitor. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:17 AM Flag

I get your point but I often think some kids need a bit more time running around the playground without interacting with the caregiver 24/7. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:46 AM Flag

I don't understand how parents hire nannies who are older and/or very overweight. There is no way they are physically capable of chasing around a toddler for 8, 10 hours a day. How do the parents not realize this?? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:55 AM Flag

there are def quite a few that are 200+lb [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:58 AM Flag

Thanks for posting this. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:49 AM Flag

Why don't you lazy bitches either raise your own kids or stop whining. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:04 AM Flag

[ - ] What are the most "old money" places to go in the summer from New York or Boston? Please be specific. (Hamptons is far too general to be helpful.) Are those places still desirable? 215 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.22.13, 08:10 PM Flag

Definitely Nantucket [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:11 PM Flag

Where on the island? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:13 PM Flag

sconset [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:10 PM Flag

Yep. Brunettes need special permission to enter. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:36 AM Flag

Start highlighting now! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:55 PM Flag

I just slap on a blonde wig, spray on a little Estée Lauder and pull on a vintage Lilly caftan. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:22 PM Flag

West End! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:13 PM Flag

It's only about 1/2 and 1/2 now. A LOT of new families in the last 30 years. The summer community is more than 3x the size it used to be. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:32 AM Flag

Isn't it rhode island? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:12 PM Flag

Where in Rhode Island? Little Compton? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:13 PM Flag

Newport [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:15 PM Flag

no [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:33 AM Flag

Why? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 05:21 AM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:53 PM Flag

Watch Hill [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:38 PM Flag

+100000000 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:06 PM Flag

Yes!!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:33 AM Flag

Riverhead [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:12 PM Flag

Do you prefer Riverhead to Quogue? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:14 PM Flag

Oops - was just told there was a Riverhead in New York, too - definitely not the one I meant! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:14 PM Flag

Which Riverhead do you mean? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:10 PM Flag

Walmart parking lot or BJ's? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:23 PM Flag

Target [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:29 PM Flag

The place to be seen is definitely at the Tanger Outlet. And maybe the Atlantis Aquarium. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:36 PM Flag

You poseurs. Everyone knows it is the race track. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:19 PM Flag

Please. It's behind TJ Maxx across from Homegoods. First dumpster on the left. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:09 PM Flag

LOL [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:57 AM Flag

What are you trying to escape? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:12 PM Flag

The heat! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:14 PM Flag

The plebs! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:26 PM Flag

And the newbies... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:30 PM Flag

And black people. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:30 PM Flag

*plebes* [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 09:38 PM Flag

Newport [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:12 PM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:15 PM Flag

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:50 PM Flag

Northwest Harbor in Maine is where the real--and really quiet--money is. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:13 PM Flag

Northeast harbor, right? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:15 PM Flag

Whoops! I was typing too fast--you are correct. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:17 PM Flag

Blue Hill? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:15 PM Flag

Northeast, and actually Seal Harbor considers Northeast to be the flashy nouveau neighbor (which it's anything but). [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:28 AM Flag

Isn't Northeast more for real sailors? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:49 PM Flag

bar harbor in maine - is that the same place? Maine in general... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:52 PM Flag

Yes, we own a home in that area and my grandmother came over in the 1600s and was DAR. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:39 PM Flag

Marthas Vineyard, but only Edgartown. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:14 PM Flag

I would have said MV, but NOT anywhere in town. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:11 PM Flag

There are 6 towns on MV - all have old families. Oak Bluffs has old AA money. Each town has a different atmosphere but each has a great feel. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:33 PM Flag

MV is not old money [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:21 PM Flag

Old MV is old New England money. It's just become a bit warped over the past 20 years with the influx of new capital. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:27 PM Flag

Lots of old NY money too. And I've very happy they've begun to put caps on McMansion sizes...about time. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:47 PM Flag

+10000. MV is NOT the Hamptons, which makes it so great. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 06:43 PM Flag

Exactly..I'm here now, "spring cleaning" and just love the place and the people. So unpretentious and relaxing. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 11:03 PM Flag

Thank god that they're stopping people with lots of money and no taste. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:14 PM Flag

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:20 PM Flag

Sorry, but it certainly can be. There's "old money" in every town - East Chop and Hart Haven in Oak Bluffs, West Chop in Vineyard Haven, parts of Edgartown and parts of all the up-island towns. MC areas in all too,which is why I love it. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:31 PM Flag

np- Well, now I'm flattered. Our summer house is on East Chop. I never viewed it as "old money" (always thought Edgartown and West Chop were) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:43 PM Flag

Love those big old homes on the way out of OB, towards VH. And Farm Neck. So many wonderful areas. E Chop is great. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 10:19 PM Flag

Yes, it is. There's lots of new money that has come in as well (centered in Edgartown and Oak Bluffs), like any summer community on the eastern seaboard has had to deal with, but the core is still very old money. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:37 AM Flag

By "core", do you mean people in town? Or just the core social group? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:55 PM Flag

Social group. Very few old families live in the actual towns themselves. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:35 PM Flag

Not so...Edgartown has homes in town that have been in the same families for generations as does Music St, in West Tisbury and the harbor homes along Main St. in Vineyard Haven. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:31 AM Flag

That would be the few. Though I disagree about the Main st. homes in Vineyardhaven. West Chop I consider to be out of town itself. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:02 AM Flag

Edgartown is not nice. Oak Bluffs is affirmatively ghetto. The only places nice are up island like Chilmark [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:38 PM Flag

Not true at all...some lovely, older parts of OB - and none ghetto. Snobby much? Edgartown has some amazing homes. Hope you're not a Vineyarder. You just shouldn't be here with your attitude. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:49 PM Flag

+1 She's calling Oak Bluffs ghetto because she can't stand that some black families might be able to own a home on MV - for decades - when she cannot. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:51 PM Flag

THIS [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:05 PM Flag

Ha, you wouldn't find me dead in OB. Everyone knows the real estates are all in Chilmark [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:05 AM Flag

Guess you never heard of Aquinnah or Menemsha..some great places there...and some pretty nifty sites in Etown too. Everyone knows that. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:25 AM Flag

Did anyone call it aquinnah before or was it just Gay Head? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:33 AM Flag

They changed the town's name a few years ago. Might have been the Wampanaog name for it but now it's official. It's still Gay Head Cliffs, I think. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:06 AM Flag

All up island. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 09:45 AM Flag

Menemsha IS Chilmark, dears [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:39 AM Flag

Ummm - part of the Town of Chilmark but has its own post office and is a valid address. Somewhat different feel than Chilmark too, dear. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.26.13, 01:47 AM Flag

Or Lamberts Cove where you have celebrity row/beach. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:38 AM Flag

np - ITA. Other OR must've never been off of Circuit Ave in OB. Also, the architecture in Edgartown is gorgeous! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:53 PM Flag

I'm up here now, 2 days alone before the long weekend. You are so incorrect. Some crummy parts of each town and some lovely areas. Lots of mc, for year round and summer. Some of the biggest monied families have the most unpretentious homes. It's the way it is in most of MV. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 10:18 PM Flag

Chappaquiddick - but it's a bit of a pain to get to. Some lovely homes and VERY low-key. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:19 PM Flag

Harder to get to makes it that much better once you arrive (both figuratively and literally). [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:52 PM Flag

Is Martha's Vineyard too celebrity focused at this point? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:56 PM Flag

Not really - most people know to just ignore any celebs. Not much of an "autograph" atmosphere. It's considered tacky to make a fuss. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 06:18 PM Flag

West Chop - definitely old money. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 06:42 PM Flag

very. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:35 PM Flag

Ronkonkoma [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:14 PM Flag

Lol [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:50 PM Flag

Fishers island, Parts of Maine, Nantucket [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:10 PM Flag

Fishers is amazing. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:11 PM Flag

This! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 05:11 AM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:14 PM Flag

Which parts of Maine? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:11 PM Flag

coastal [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:13 PM Flag

Northeast, Southeast H., kennebunk [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:14 PM Flag

Northeast harbor definitely [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:29 PM Flag

in August [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:57 PM Flag

Only the first two weeks, otherwise July is the preferred month up there. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:50 AM Flag

Why July? Isn't the water still cold? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:50 PM Flag

You never go swimming in the water there anyway. It's always to cold. It's not really a monthly place to go. You are either there for the whole summer or you are up occasionally for long weekends if that is all your job will allow. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:37 PM Flag

If you can go for the summer or for long weekends (by plane?), then why not go for a month? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:14 PM Flag

Southwest, not southeast. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:39 AM Flag

How would you distinguish between the three? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:50 PM Flag

Which is best for sailing? Best clubs? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:50 PM Flag

like we'd tell you. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:37 PM Flag

Tell me! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:13 PM Flag

The hamptons [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:21 PM Flag

South or east [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:21 PM Flag

old money dear, not new :) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:21 PM Flag

then you don't know much about the hamptons if you only associate it with new money. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:18 PM Flag

Definitely a difficult proposition to defend. Hamptons has gone to the newly minted money--very few old money people there any more. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:28 PM Flag

THIS [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:29 PM Flag

It mostly is. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:23 PM Flag

OP. This is exactly what I'm looking to avoid. I don't want to hang out with principals at hedge funds and their idiot trophy wives. Boring. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:54 PM Flag

Yes, I'd certainly rather hang out with people doddering away the last of grand daddy's money and hoping no one notices the holes in the roof. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:19 AM Flag

Adirondacks, Maine, North shore of Boston [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:23 PM Flag

Vague [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:28 PM Flag

I think of the Adirondacks as more of a fall place, but that may be just me. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:31 PM Flag

North shore of Boston? Like Revere??!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:52 AM Flag

Millbrook [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:20 PM Flag

Isn't there a lot of new money there too? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:31 PM Flag

Do you prefer Millbrook to Washington? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:31 PM Flag

I meant Millbrook to reference the whole area, but I do prefer Washington/having property vs the village [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:30 PM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:56 PM Flag

If you need to ask....?! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:27 PM Flag

This. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 04:10 AM Flag

Berkshires [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:49 PM Flag

Yes, Edith Wharton had a house in Lenox, but does anyone still go there anymore? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:51 PM Flag

yes but we don't talk about it much. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:08 PM Flag

Nantucket for sure. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:43 PM Flag

Chappequa. Cape Cod. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:47 PM Flag

Surprising there are so few references to the Cape. Where exactly would you recommend? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:57 PM Flag

Sorry I don't know it well enough to give a specific area. Your best bet is Nantucket. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:36 PM Flag

Chatham is the Nantucket of the Cape. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:00 PM Flag

Greenwich [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:47 PM Flag

Too year round at this point. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:51 PM Flag

Southampton [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:47 PM Flag

Vomit. Way too new money at this point. There are a few good families left, but the whole environment has really changed since the mid 90s. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:51 PM Flag

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:52 PM Flag

Newport RI [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:48 PM Flag

Impossible to break into the Newport scene. Don't even try. Many of the other places mentioned are much more accessible. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:49 PM Flag

Maine [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:51 PM Flag

Hackensack [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:06 PM Flag

er - NO [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:09 PM Flag

This entire post screams "striver". [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:11 PM Flag

Or russian wanna-be-bride.... You all just totally helped the girl out, nice job!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:37 AM Flag

Russian brides wouldn't make it in most of these towns besides the Hamptons. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:52 PM Flag

The old money place to go is the summer house that's been in your family for generations. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:34 PM Flag

ita. where it is doesn't matter. my friend goes to a house on a lake in NH that her grandparents bought in the 1920s - or maybe that was her great-grandparents. Hasn't been winterized, furniture is old and musty. Pretty damn awesome. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:45 PM Flag

+1000 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:40 PM Flag

This. If you're asking the question, you're not wanted there. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:41 PM Flag

Well put. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 10:15 PM Flag

Exactly. The old money families I know have places in the Adirondacks, NH and Maine. All were bought in the late 19th and early 20th century. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:09 AM Flag

Yes, if you have a "cabin" in the Adirondacks. Is there much of a community there? Which towns? Or is everyone just on the lakes? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:58 PM Flag

The ones I know are on lakes. College roommate's family has one on Saranac, another friend's family has one on Canada Lake. The families go to spend time together as a family and with invited guests, not to be part of a larger community. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:18 PM Flag

This. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:51 PM Flag

Called a Camp. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:57 AM Flag

Wonderful book by George Colt called "The Big House" about his family's place on the Cape--fascinating reading for anyone who's reading this thread. Very poignant. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:03 PM Flag

Agree, really great. Tad Friend's memoir "Cheerful Money" is terrific too, not exclusively about summer places, but definitely about old WASPy families. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:10 AM Flag

Curious to read that! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.26.13, 02:00 AM Flag

Amazing book. Loved all the wonderful summer memories. A must for any guest room in a summer house. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:13 PM Flag

apparently my family vacations like old money. (2 cottages on a bay in Maine--in the family since 1910). [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:15 PM Flag

^^^ps - we don't have any money. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:33 PM Flag

Are you old money? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:48 PM Flag

Wyandanch [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:50 PM Flag

Chatham! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:51 PM Flag

Old monied Europeans are on the north fork. Not mega wealthy but have been there for generations. Large Greek, and croatian presence. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:52 PM Flag

The Hellenic - yum. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 10:01 PM Flag

This whole response is confusing. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:52 PM Flag

Why? Are you trying not to look like a striver? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 10:23 PM Flag

If you have to ask... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:57 AM Flag

Stonington [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 01:06 AM Flag

It is worth noting OP, basically any of these places will send you "the black cardigan" if you show up and rent/buy with out being introduced properly long beforehand (houseguest of others for years etc). Good luck! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 04:36 AM Flag

I have never heard that expression before - is that a common expression, meaning what, exactly? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 05:40 AM Flag

Hi, Mrs. Reed! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 10:54 AM Flag

or: Yeah! So glad someone got that reference! This whole thread was making me wish she was still around! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:44 PM Flag

np Probably something like FOD. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:17 PM Flag

Jane Eyre? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:46 PM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:08 PM Flag

OP. There is clearly a right and wrong way to do this. It's a long and hard road, but hopefully worth it! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:51 PM Flag

Do what exactly? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:31 PM Flag

Op, I don't mean to be rude. Truly. If you need to ask these types of questions you really shouldn't go to these places. There are plenty of wonderful summer communities that would be gracious and warm and would love to have you and your family. But it is clear already from what little I know of you, that the places listed above would not welcome you. It's not worth it. FInd your own place that you and your family love! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:35 PM Flag

I thought the moochy houseguest was the bane of UB existence [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 12:39 AM Flag

Watch Hill [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:08 PM Flag

How would you compare Watch Hill vs. Jamestown vs. Newport vs. Little Compton? Do they really attract people from New York? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:53 PM Flag

Ct. Shore - Guilford, Madison, Fenwick, Essex, Old Lyme, Old Black Point, Stonington [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 12:24 PM Flag

What about Block Island? It's so low-key and removed. Still very underdeveloped. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:50 PM Flag

I think if you're old money, you would know this. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:09 PM Flag

East Egg! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 03:53 PM Flag

Washington Depot CT and Millbrook NY. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 05:52 PM Flag

I think that they're lovely low-key places to go, but I think that they're a bit new money, no? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:11 PM Flag

Washington CT has lots and lots of new money, NYC transplants, NYC weekenders, etc. My family's been going there since the 60s and there's nothing old money about it anymore. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:20 PM Flag

^^^ and my parents are not "old money", they are at best new money, or maybe just decent amount of money for retirees... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:56 PM Flag

yes, but Washington has maintained the aura and from the outside has the veneer of old money, versus somewhere like Southampton which is full of day trippers now [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:36 AM Flag

Maine [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 06:14 PM Flag

Desbarats in Ontario. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 06:53 PM Flag

With the Menonites? And are there people from NYC/Boston who are going there? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 07:12 PM Flag

Very old Chicago money watering hole. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 08:55 PM Flag

*Mennonites* [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 09:49 PM Flag

Point O Woods [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 12:10 AM Flag

Yes...pretty closed to non-Christians, I think. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:32 AM Flag

There are now a few mixed religions and mixed race families. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:24 PM Flag

I was scrolling down to see when this would show up. POW is probably the most "exclusive" because you have to take a ferry there and you can't just "get on," they ask you where you're going.... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:40 AM Flag

The Fishers Island of Fire Island. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:11 AM Flag

My WASP friend spent a weekend on Fishers Island and came back totally freaked out about how preppy and old money it was. I just remember her spluttering about lacoste shirts with the collars turned up, like a parody of 80s preppiness. Sounds like the wasps there were straight out of central casting. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:25 AM Flag

I went once and never saw another black person other than the ones in my family... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:28 PM Flag

Amazing! Will add to my list. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:11 PM Flag

So so true. I too am a WASP who grew up summering in one of the above mentioned locations and I also was freaked out by the Fisher's crowd. I went to a debaucherous weekend-long house party there and I have never met so many louche trust funders. Several of them were post-college men who did not work and were spending the summer doing things like "watching the olympics" or sailing. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:53 PM Flag

Dated a guy whose family had a house there and later found out the guy was taking items from the family house (rugs etc) and selling them for extra spending money. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:19 PM Flag

Isn't it a corporation where there is a vote to approve people who want to buy there? (I am serious.) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:21 PM Flag

Deer Iland in the St. Lawrence River. That's the one owned by the Skull and Bones secret society at Yale. Well, you did say "Old Money". [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:35 AM Flag

Weekapaug, RI [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:06 AM Flag

+1000 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:52 AM Flag

If you have money for a summer home but don't know where the "old money" summers then you are not "old money" and won't fit in. You will be exposed and snubbed. If you are trying to ask where you should go that is pretty and low-key then that is a different question and many wonderful spots have been listed by the other posters. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:57 AM Flag

OP: I'll figure out a way to fit in. I'm quite resourceful. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:12 PM Flag

Fake. You're not the OP. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 02:12 PM Flag

Skaneateles [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 01:50 PM Flag

If they are really old money like WASPY it will be somewhere kind of crappy that is only cool because they think it is. Lots of these remote places sort of suck and lack the tacky creature comforts that the "new" money is fine with. e.g. Sconset on Nantucket is pretty, but really effing far away from other things on the island. Maine is WAY too cold and frankly all of these places are on the Atlantic with its cold water and never ending surf. I would take a tacky Beyonce yacht in crystal blue warm water any day over popped collar trust funders hanging out in remote beaches eating bland food. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:09 AM Flag

Beyonce is gross and tacky. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:52 AM Flag

[ - ] I have a 2 year old in his first separation camp and his counselors were amazing. Is it customary to tip or give a gift to thank them for doing such a great job? 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.22.13, 07:42 PM Flag

WTF is a separation camp? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 07:49 PM Flag

It's where two year olds bound for the Ivy League learn to separate themselves from the masses. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 07:53 PM Flag

It's kind of like the Skull and Bones initiation rituals, but with fuzzy hand puppets. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 07:59 PM Flag

haha [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:58 PM Flag

lol! now I know the big secret! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:10 PM Flag

Kind of like a concentration camp but with crafts. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 07:54 PM Flag

And bad food. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:02 PM Flag

Can't stop laughing [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:04 PM Flag

OR: lol! This is what I was thinking. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:05 PM Flag

They don't shave your head, but they do give you a buzz cut. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:10 PM Flag

You send them there to toughen up prior to selling them to strangers. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:03 PM Flag

Mommy and Daddy are separating, and baby goes to camp. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 07:58 PM Flag

LOL [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:23 PM Flag

At the end of camp yes [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 08:19 PM Flag

Thank you...money or a gift? That's what I wasn't sure. They are mostly young college aged kids. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.28.13, 03:18 PM Flag

Wish someone had told me about this. Mine are teenagers and still hanging around. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 09:12 PM Flag

Come on, OP, we all want to know: what is a separation camp? And you say "first separation camp" - is there more than one? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 03:32 PM Flag

Lol...separation camp is usually a playgroup for 2 year olds where leaving them is optional. So basically everyone practices leaving their kids but really the moms/nannies are all waiting outside looking through windows to make sure the kid is doing ok. It's like practice for pre-school when you really do have to leave them. Kidville and several other places do it and they do gym, art, music etc for about 2 hours. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.28.13, 03:17 PM Flag

[ - ] Anyone have experience with the free preschool offering for 3/4 year-olds in Hoboken? Is it good quality and/or is it easy to get into? Any perspectives/advice are appreciated! 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.22.13, 05:32 PM Flag

[ - ] HIRE MY FANTASTIC NANNY -- My nanny has been with me for 15 YEARS (yes, 15 years). She has helped me take care of 3 kids, including newborn twins that are now 13. Fluent in Spanish and English, she has done everything from cooking, cleaning and all the running around manhattan that happens with 3 kids. But it is sadly time for her to move on as another family can use her more than we can. (believe me, my kids would keep her til they were 30 if I let them!!). She is looking for full time, preferably with baby (s) but other ages ok. Live out only. Another plus -- She lives in Manhattan, so no costly taxis late at night to Queens or Brooklyn! Flexible schedule and great at last minute panics (i.e. a 6 am call to come over when your kid has to stay home and you have a business trip!). Honestly, I can't recommend her more. Please REPLY for contact and recommendations. 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.22.13, 01:05 PM Flag

Try mommybites.com [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:04 PM Flag

or shittershitty [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:05 PM Flag

Googled - can't find - misspelled? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:16 PM Flag

lol [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:19 PM Flag

You're a bitch [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 05:29 PM Flag

How old is she? After 15 years do you think she has the energy to keep up with toddlers again? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:10 PM Flag

What race/ethnicity is she? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:15 PM Flag

AA. Why? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:38 PM Flag

no thank you [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:01 PM Flag

Ah! Somethings will never change. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:07 PM Flag

Wow [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 05:28 PM Flag

[ - ] I had 128 substantive emails I needed to substantively respond to or address in some way today - and most of them involved more than just an email response - maybe some sort of analysis, or drafting of some type of agreement. This is probably below my average. Where do other lawyers stand on the daily email count? 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.22.13, 03:33 AM Flag

How do you have time to count the emails? I SAH now but was a biglaw partner and never understood it when associates would talk about the number of emails they received. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:38 AM Flag

Your inbox counts for you. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:40 AM Flag

Yes but then you're counting the "thanks!", "here's the dial-in info", etc. emails too. OP suggested she was referring to emails directed at her requiring new analysis/drafting etc. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:50 AM Flag

When you file 'substantive' emails, the files should indicate a count. You will have to tally up the counts but that doesn't take THAT much time. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:51 AM Flag

256 here. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:44 AM Flag

That's because you spent so much time in meetings. I respond to 90% emails everyday and can go home everyday at 5pm. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:39 AM Flag

I get maybe 10-15 emails a day, of which about 5 need some type of lengthy response or analysis. Granted I do not work in BigLaw. I am staff counsel for an insurance company and handle first party auto/medical claims. My emails are mostly from claim reps or other lawyers in my firm. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 04:02 AM Flag

Who gives a shit on your boring life [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 05:14 AM Flag

Yo dat's not very nice slap mah fro! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 05:20 AM Flag

[ - ] People take childbirth classes in NYC? any place they liked? 38 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.22.13, 02:20 AM Flag

Why bother. I didn't and the baby came out. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:21 AM Flag

Absolutely this! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:23 AM Flag

yes I agree not necessary but it is nice to know what my options are and what to expect. If you are hoping to go without meds nice to have some idea as to things to do, options and management of hospital, etc. baby will come out either way but nice to have some info... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:21 AM Flag

It is a trial by fire. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:30 AM Flag

I don't understand what that is suppose to mean? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:32 AM Flag

You can read all the books in the world, but until you actually do it you have no idea. It is like the difference between climbing a mountain and reading about climbing a mountain. Your body just takes over and you do it. It just isn't an intellectual thing. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:37 AM Flag

not so much true..you would want to know how to tie a knot, what gear you would need, etc before you climb...with some much interventions happening an a lot of it not always needed it is nice to know that you do have other options, it is not about attacking your doctor it is about having a smart conversation with them, they only way you know what questions to ask is by getting info before...like know you don't need an iv if you don't have pain meds...if you did not know this before you would just get a routine i.v. which can make it harder for some people to use natural options for pain management like shower, bath, etc. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:41 AM Flag

Ugh, dr's hate this shit. Let them do their job and don't micromanage based on a book you read. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:44 AM Flag

wow - I feel bad for you. To be honest I don't really care about pissing doctors off, when it comes to my body I don't see how being able to have a conversation with my doctor and be some what on a level field is wrong. I also don't see how it is micromanaging to not go for an i.v if it is not necessary..there is not reason to have an iv if you don't have meds, if you are able to drink and keep liquids down you will stay hydrated. For many women their birth experience matters and it is not about micromanaging your doctors or nurses it is about know what they hell they are doing to you and know what your options are.. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:49 AM Flag

Whatever. I just don't think reading a few articles trumps medical school and years of experience. I found this whole idea of dr's being really pushy during birth to be completely untrue and you could always get a midwife. Trust me, mid contraction you are not going to be thinking about iv's or anything else. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:55 AM Flag

They're going to put an IV in you ahead of time just in case things go south with you and they need a quick line. Don't play doctor. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 11:56 AM Flag

true and not true. you can have a heplock which is not connected to anything, it allows for more freedom of movement...and in an emergency if needed they can get a line in...what do you think they do when people get into car accidents or have heart attacks..they start lines when needed. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.23.13, 02:06 PM Flag

Nonsense. Use your head and I am very sure common sense knows more than a book. Birth is a VERY individual experience. Just accept that and let it happen. Don't go crazy over preparing for it. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:29 PM Flag

Weill Cornell east side has one. It was a waste of time for me, but we useful for DH because he had to sit down and actually focus on what he needed to expect in the delivery room. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:30 AM Flag

I did-at a place called "real birth" but I don't think it exists anymore. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:18 AM Flag

I did too. Miss that place. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 03:43 AM Flag

I didn't take childbirth class but I took breastfeeding class before db was born (as my friend recommended). I thought that was very helpful. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:19 AM Flag

where? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:20 AM Flag

I did it at NYU hospital [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:22 AM Flag

I took both and both were very helpful. It turned out that BFing was much harder for me than childbirth, but it could have been the opposite. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:27 PM Flag

Did you take a sex class or did you and dh figure that out all by yourselves? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:27 AM Flag

laugh...I did read books however... why make fun about someone wanting to educate themselves? Not everyone wants epidural and even if you do want epidural nice to know what all the machines are for. You mean to tell me if you need to have an operation you would not google info on this or ask questions? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:30 AM Flag

Honestly, no. I might get a second opinion but google is NOT your friend when it comes to medical issues. You are not a doctor and you will just freak yourself out. I don't need to know and scare myself. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:33 AM Flag

that's you. most people like to know about what is going to happen to them. I am not saying to tell doctors how to do their job but I would like to know what is going to happen to my body, it is after all happening to me...knowledge is a wonderful gift to have.. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:36 AM Flag

Sorry, in terms of birth it is silly. If it gives you peace of mind and you like doing it go ahead, but don't expect it to really prepare you in any sense for the reality. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:41 AM Flag

I guess that is where we are different, I don't see knowledge as being silly. I am also smart enough to know that I really should know what is happening to my body, why doctors would want to do certain things and what things I may not need. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:38 AM Flag

Well, I've been through it and feel free to read and plan away. Nature will take over. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:47 AM Flag

I never said anything about a plan...birth plans are for idiots...anyone who thinks they can plan their labor should really take a class..I am just talking about know what to expect from the medical side, what my options are [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:51 AM Flag

You won't have options in the moment. It isn't really like that. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:57 AM Flag

Um, we never did. Needed a team of professionals [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:34 AM Flag

To out his winky in your hoo-hoo? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:38 AM Flag

Nope, in a plastic cup [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:48 AM Flag

Aww, sorry. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:55 AM Flag

I met one of my best friends in the class. I [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:28 AM Flag

yes I agree, classes can be great to meet people. I still keep in touch with several people I took my class with [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:29 AM Flag

Don't bother. I spent a ton on child birth classes and my baby was breech and wound up with a c anyway. waste of money. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:42 AM Flag

Yes, but most babies are not breech (and some breech babies are born vaginally). In other words, most women are going to have a vaginal birth and could benefit from learning about the process beforehand. Classes can't stop medical problems that come up, but they can be really useful if there are no such problems. I know that my births wouldn't have gone as well if I hadn't took classes and learned about birth beforehand. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 11:22 AM Flag

^hadn't taken [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 11:28 AM Flag

[ - ] Sleepaway Camp Moms - any packing tips? Camp Trunks being picked up in 3 weeks and don't know where to start... 39 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.22.13, 01:02 AM Flag

I just followed the instructions we got in the final instructions package and got everything they recommended. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:12 AM Flag

They pick them up? Fancy. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:14 AM Flag

Indeed. Not our camp! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:19 AM Flag

we are required to use a company called Camp Trucking - $200+ to deliver trunks. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:16 AM Flag

F that shit. I like my Y camp. That is highway robbery. Why can't you just put it in the trunk of the car when you drive DD up? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:23 AM Flag

We don't drive kids up they take a bus. on the positive side for the youngest camper their trunks are unpacked and bed made when they arrive and they get them right out playing to help avoid kids getting homesick. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:24 AM Flag

Wow. That isn't camp to me at all. We made our own beds and our parents dropped us off. Sounds like a hotel. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:33 AM Flag

it definitely looks and feels like camp,a very nice camp with awesome facilities but still camp. Most importantly no electronics which will be this generations definition of the camp - unplugged for 7 weeks! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:29 AM Flag

Well, that is good. I go for much much more rustic. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:37 AM Flag

Ha, this [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:38 AM Flag

Np - yeah that's crazy!!! Not what camp is meant to be - just adds to the entitlement!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:32 AM Flag

Pp- hey, different strokes for different folks. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:40 AM Flag

I just posted this on another thread...Fairy Tales Shampoo. It REALLY works at preventing getting head lice in the first place! http://www.drugstore.com/fairy-tales-rosemary-repel-shampoo/qxp227520?catid=183491 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:09 AM Flag

Is it true that once DC gets lice that they are more prone to getting it again? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:16 AM Flag

Np - I don't think so. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:19 AM Flag

No. My DC got lice once. That was 3 years ago. I have used the Fairy Tales Shampoo and Detangler (Spray Conditioner) on both my kids since then and thank goodness neither has gotten lice since. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:21 AM Flag

That's silly, unless you never got all the lice to begin with. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:17 AM Flag

you send them to camp with Fairy Tale or use it before camp. They do a lice check of every kid once they arrive. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:16 AM Flag

I pack little surprises and a card with. Heartfelt note. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:11 AM Flag

what kind of surprises? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:17 AM Flag

Stickers, colored pens, comics [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:20 AM Flag

Like those little toys you get near the checkout at Barnes and Noble. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:21 AM Flag

Mad Libs [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:24 AM Flag

Name tape everything and write name on all other things, like toiletries. Extra socks and underwear. Jeans, sweatshirts, tshirts, shorts, bathing suits,towels, personal sports equipment- ie. tennis. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:24 AM Flag

what about boots for boys? rainboots like Hunter or waterproof hiking boots like Timberland? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:24 AM Flag

That depends on the camp. Ask them- do they hike? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:25 AM Flag

np - maybe this isn't UBesque but my kid doesn't have Hunter boots or Timberland boots or any other such footwear. I just send with sneakers until age 12/13- at that point they are usually doing more serious hiking and have hiking boots. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:35 AM Flag

am thinking about rainy muddy days at camp more than hiking... wondering if rain boots are dorky. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:30 AM Flag

Of course they hike or at least run around in the woods, it's camp. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:43 AM Flag

Extra socks, underwear, sneakers, and mostly active clothes (shorts, tshirts). [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:21 AM Flag

They probably have servants carry a change of shoes in case the children get wet while hiking!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:33 AM Flag

Spray bottle/fan combo. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:25 AM Flag

This [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:26 AM Flag

This [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:26 AM Flag

Ooooo, I want to go to camp! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:28 AM Flag

No way for me! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:39 AM Flag

Me too. Mine was the BEST. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:43 AM Flag

I love camp! I have the best memories and the best camp friends! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 02:02 AM Flag

Put each bottle of liquor inside several socks, or they will clink together and make a mess. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 12:23 PM Flag

[ - ] S/O to $67K divorced mom thread. I have helped a friend through her very nasty 2 year divorce. She is a SAHM and I am realizing that her screaming that he does not want to pay for this or for that is really about her and not the DCs. I am pretty disgusted. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.21.13, 09:04 PM Flag

MYOB. You don't know how she feels. Easy for you to judge when you're not in her shoes. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 09:15 PM Flag

Try again, very hard to understand what you wrote. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 09:19 PM Flag

sorry. friend is going through a nasty divorce and for the past year has complained non stop that DH wont pay for x and a monthly amount lower than she feels is fair in light of his finance salary. She does not work (and because of $ she inherited was not working when she met him). After the legal fees and the amount they settled on, she is very angry because it is not enough and she is going to have begin working to maintain the lifestyle she is accustomed to. Reading the 67K thread, I am realizing that she was counting the "child support" as "her support". [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 09:36 PM Flag

People like her suck. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 09:40 PM Flag

[ - ] DS's first summer at sleepaway camp. We are starting to pack this weekend. What are some must-sends that are not on the camp's list? 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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New York City 05.21.13, 08:16 PM Flag

porn [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:18 PM Flag

even more bug spray, mini fan, books [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:23 PM Flag

Lysol wipes for the shower. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:35 PM Flag

Why's that? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:41 PM Flag

candy- the "popular" kids bring some candy and hide it in their bags (plus they will think "i have such a cool mom!"), stuffed animal if DC is young, headlamp (better than flashlight for camp), water balloons (though some camps prohibit), baseball mitt, stamped & addressed envelopes (or you'll never get any), shirts of all different colors (for various games), a fun costume piece (animal hat/superhero/whatever DS is into). signed, ex director of sleepaway camp :) [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:34 PM Flag

oh also one of those water sprays- that is sometimes attached to the mini fan [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:30 PM Flag

Fan [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:45 PM Flag

Flip flops, goggles [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:46 PM Flag

Lots of bug spray [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:46 PM Flag

Be sure to write a few letters or cards and mail to camp before your ds arrives. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:46 PM Flag

mad libs, nerf basketball hoop, card or dice games [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 08:55 PM Flag

mace, nunchucks [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 11:07 PM Flag

this [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 01:04 AM Flag

3 in one body wash (shampoo, conditioner, soap), clip on fan for near his bed, nerf basketball, headlamp flashlight, water sprayer, crocs, mad libs, cards [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.21.13, 11:53 PM Flag

Fairy Tales Shampoo. It REALLY works at preventing getting head lice in the first place! http://www.drugstore.com/fairy-tales-rosemary-repel-shampoo/qxp227520?catid=183491 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.22.13, 12:56 AM Flag