• Filter the conversation
[ - ] per the earlier public vs private post: we were at a downtown coed pvt and switched to smallish selective public for HS. Our decision really was almost 100 % wanting DD to be with a peer group that was less entitled and materialistic--for us, 7th and 8th grade were the years that the kids REALLY started to notice wealth and it got a little toxic. We are super happy with our decision. Classes are small (under 25) --but there are trade-offs-- only 1 foreign language option for example, and not nearly as many class trips. The teachers on the whole are as good or better-- and very passionate about public education. They tend to be young (at our school) and extremely committed. At the end of the day for us it was really about peer group-- and the peer group at dd's HS is diverse, ambitious and passionate. The college placements are as strong as her old school's (lots of bard, middlebury, NYU, smith, vassar-- a handful of Ivies each year). ANYWAY--it really was the right decision for us. 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 11:01 PM Flag
»
Why do I feel these posts are all written by the same person? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:11 PM Flag
»
ITA--but this one maybe a little less so.... [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:06 PM Flag
»
Bard? Whoop-de-doo. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:11 PM Flag
»
Hey! its my alma mater! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:07 PM Flag
»
DD changed schools for similar reasons. Best decision. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:25 PM Flag
»
I find that on this board public school parents feel like they need to justify why their child is in public school. Why do this?. If you made the right decision for your child no need to justify it to a bunch of internet strangers [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:21 PM Flag
»
I don't know-- I don't see OP's post as justifying. DD in a private but not sure we can stay there and I am agonizing over moving her. I can't tell you how much i appreciate these posts. not sure what we'll do... [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:39 PM Flag
»
I feel parents on this board feel like they need to justify spending $40,000 a year to educate a 6 YO. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:41 PM Flag
»
this [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:43 PM Flag
»
when you spend that kind of dough you HAVE to drink the kool-aid...signed btdt [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:49 PM Flag
»
I have been on these boards for awhile. I have noticed mainly public school parents criticising private schools and the money people spend to send their kids there. I think if you are happy with your choice there is no need to defend it [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:41 AM Flag
»
whenever people post about being happy with public school they get attacked by pvt school parents who say thats not possible. I just think if you spend that much $$ (and we do-- 2 kids in private) you HAVE to be crazy certain its worth it. And attack anyone who says it isn't [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 02:38 AM Flag
»
Never seen private people sttack public school parents who are happy with their choice. Plenty of disdain for private school parents. Smacks of insecurity with choice of public school [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:35 AM Flag
»
Because most parents on here act as if its a matter of fact that they would rather smother their children with a pillow than send them to public. Ok..maybe that's a little hyperbolic. How about-they would rather pay half a million dollars per child to NOT have them go to public. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:46 AM Flag
»
are you kidding? private school parents on this board act like public school is the gulag. I think there is plenty of insecurity on both sides... [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 10:55 AM Flag
»
That sounds like HSAS or Bard. That's a low class size for selective public schools. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:53 AM Flag
»
Poster, we were you. Probably the same private. Agree 100 percent. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:03 AM Flag
»
Bard isn't specialized, but it could be MSE or York Science. In any event, DC goes to Bronx Science, and a number of her classmates have come from private. It's all about where you think your DC would be happiest. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:10 PM Flag
»
The worst kids in my daughters SAT tutor class came from private. Obnoxious (and not very good at the SAT in comparison to the others). [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:38 PM Flag
»
OP--there are lots of selective high schools that aren't SSHAT schools-- Frank McCourt, ICE, NYiSchool, SoF for example--- these schools are relatively small and the class size is similar to private-- [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:31 PM Flag
[ - ] Thoughts on Hewitt? I know it is typically viewed as "bottom tier", but I toured with a DF and it seemed nice. How hard is it to get into? I know much easier than Brearley, Chapin, or Spence, but is it exaggerated that essentially anyone can get in? TIA! 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 09:47 PM Flag
»
Op please don't listen to this board. I have only boys so no skin in this game. I know two girls who attend and they're both smart and lovely. Some times it's better to be a bigger fish in a small pond. If you feel it's a fit that's what is most important. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:55 PM Flag
»
NP Who cares who gets in! It may not be "as good" as Brearley but, so what? My two DCs are both at a TT school but I sincerely believe that all (ok 99%) of the schools in NYC are wonderful schools. There is just a very high level of competition amongst schools in NYC - I guess that is the norm in NYC for everything! Any of these would rank at TT in just about any other city. For example, only in NYC do you have three top girls schools. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:00 PM Flag
»
It's very easy to get into, there's just no getting around that. I'm a Manhattan lifer and I've never heard of anyone getting rejected. If you hear someone goes to Hewitt, you figure they're nice and not a super student; some girls start there and turn out to be better students than they were expected vis a vis score etc, and often they transfer to a better school in 4th grade or so (my bff went from there to Spence). That said, it seems pleasant and welcoming and, unlike, say, Dwight, not really wild in later years [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:22 PM Flag
»
Honestly I think the so-called "NY lifers" are the absolute worst when it comes to giving objective school advice. They base themselves upon stereotypes that are 20-30 years old. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:20 PM Flag
»
Poster from above: I've lived here all my life, have kids 17, 11 and 4. Sister has kids in her 20s who all went to NYC privates. Believe me, I know waaaay more than it's healthy to know. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:13 PM Flag
»
np: girls get rejected from Hewitt all the time - whether the caliber of student they accept is not the same as say Brearley, is open for discussion, but there remain fewer seats than there are applicants for them. and while i don't disagree that overall, the best students tend to leave for more competitive schools, that doesn't mean that i don't also know many bright and successful Hewitt grads. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:31 PM Flag
»
Hewitt is an excellent school. The people are wonderful and if you feel it's the right fit, then it is. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:29 AM Flag
»
It fills a niche between public, which many people don't like - for whatever reason, and the better privates. The bottom line is to check it out and get the facts. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:37 PM Flag
»
I don't know how it was 5 or 10 years ago, but having just gone through the process I can tell you we liked it very much. I think what you read here is ridiculous, and it is all branding perpetuating by a number of TT-obsessed idiots on this board. Our DD is going elsewhere because we wanted Catholic - but this was a real contendent. We felt it was a great place, particularly for LS. All the girls seemed very happy. The HS student tour guide we had was very impressive and certainly better spoken and more personable than the S and C girls we met, for example. That is not to say that S and C don't have a better reputation for HS, but it was just our observation. Also, the new HoS is really imopressive and working very hard to change the current perception. By the time a DD entering K now will graduate, I feel sure that Hewitt will be spoken of in very different terms. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:17 PM Flag
»
Well. all I know is that a work friend of my mine was gnashed her teeth during this year's admissions season because the only places her kid got in were Hewitt, Trevor Day and Manhattan Country. And she applied to every single one of the non-Catholic girls schools. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:16 PM Flag
»
My dd got a great education in the lower school. It is more mixed in middle school, but I think that may change (for the better) with time as the school gets stronger. We left in middle school for a school considered "TT" by this board, so she would have more opportunities/challenges. And although we left Hewitt, the fact that she's been at both "bottom tier" and "TT" makes me question how much those labels really mean. She's still the same kid. In other words, look with an open mind and choose what makes most sense for your child at the time. It was definitely the right lower school for DD. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:48 PM Flag
[ - ] How many schools did you apply to for K for your DC? Do you wish that you'd applied to more? Is seven a good number in your opinion if only applying to girls' SS schools or should we apply to a couple of coeds as backups? 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 08:55 PM Flag
»
Apply broadly would be my suggestion. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:57 PM Flag
»
I applied to 10 schools, two being Anderson and Hunter. I wanted SS extremely bad for DD but we applied to those two schools plus Dalton, Trinity, and CGPS for co-eds. Worked out very well for us and DD got single sex! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:11 PM Flag
»
Which one? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:38 PM Flag
»
We applied to 5- 3 SS, 2 coed. According to ub the 3 SS were TT and 2 coed were 3rd tiers. Already had erbs. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:53 PM Flag
»
Had strong erb but very reserved kid. Applied to 11. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:28 PM Flag
»
3 SS and 3 CE. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:02 PM Flag
»
10 - 7 SS and 3 coeds. Accepted by 4, WL 4, rj 2. We were only interested in SS, so for us co-ed was a back up. And a good thing we applied because 2 of the accetps came from co-eds. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:22 PM Flag
»
what kind of schools did you apply to? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:31 PM Flag
»
All the girls SS (so a mix) and the coeds were TT and 2T (according to UB standards). We are going SS. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:37 PM Flag
»
I think if you are okay with just getting any one of M, CSH, and H, you will probably be fine. The other girls schools are EXTREMELY difficult to get into. The big question here is whether you will be fine with getting just H or M at the end of the day, or if you will wish you'd put some coeds on the list. FWIW, I would have taken Brearley over Trinity, but wouldn't have taken Hewitt/Marymount over Trevor. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 04:11 PM Flag
»
Really, OP. Just listen to the poster above and you will be fine. Apply to MM and CSH and you will definitely get into both. Nobody wants these schools, and they accept absolutely everyone. They actually call you begging you to accept them. Of course, that is only if you are ok "ending up" there. You may not want to, since they are so undesirable. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 04:44 PM Flag
»
The fact is that MM, CSH, and H are much more attainable for most people than B, S, C, and even NBS. No one is saying they take everyone. I think OR's advice is reasonable. -NP [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 04:47 PM Flag
»
np. Maybe H - I know plenty of people who did not get into CSH and MM though fewer who did not get into H, for example. And H by no means accepts everyone. And btw, most people on this board would not go anywhere near MM or CSH because they are Catholic schools, so their opinion is worthless IMHO. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 04:57 PM Flag
»
Do you know anyone who applied to all 7 ss girls schools and didn't get into a single one? If so, where did they end up? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 04:57 PM Flag
»
nnp: I do. They had very strong feedback from C and the PSD didn't play her cards right. The other schools, while interested at first, didn't offer an acceptance probably because of yield. She worked the WL but didn't get off anywhere. H and MM want a strong yield just like everyone else so you really can't rely on backups. The family moved to the burbs. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 05:38 PM Flag
»
That is the psd's fault, it's not because she only applied to the ss schools. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 05:58 PM Flag
»
But this scenario is not uncommon. You can't rely on your backups unless you show them some love. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 01:29 PM Flag
»
NP: Simply not true, sorry. Both schools are highly in demand and difficult to get into. They have very good sibling and legacy policies and there aren't very many spots open each year. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 05:11 PM Flag
»
Not true. Those schools want families who want them. If you don't let them know you are interested they are unlikely to give you a spot. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 05:40 PM Flag
»
Where is your DC now? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 04:46 PM Flag
»
Applied to 10, only 4 SS girls. After touring realized that it was "Brearley or Bust" for us. Luckily things worked out. =) [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 05:33 PM Flag
»
Have registered at our local gen ed and after G&T have listed 2 schools. Very low key approach. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 02:46 AM Flag
[ - ] I'm newish here, but is "nurturing" a euphemism for "not very academic" or full of kids with low scores and issues? I've heard this used IRL, a well as "Sweet" to describe schools like Trevor, Hewitt, Berkeley Carroll. Who could be against "nurturing"? But is there any school that is "nurturing" AND has top academics? 65 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 08:45 PM Flag
»
oxymoron [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:42 PM Flag
»
This! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:03 PM Flag
»
Look at BWL. It is always called "nurturing" by the parents and PSD's. Its just code word for coddling non-academic and borderline LD kids with emotional, social, and academic issues. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:46 PM Flag
»
in other words: loserville central [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:53 PM Flag
»
Pot- meet Kettle. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:04 PM Flag
»
What is BWL. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:59 PM Flag
»
Birch Wathen Lenox. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:04 PM Flag
»
Birch Walthen Lennox (sp?) - A less-academic private school, supposed to be tolerant of kids with learning differences. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:20 PM Flag
»
That's just fancy talk and code word for saying that BWL takes children with social, emotional, and academic problems (special needs) that other schools reject. And, the upper school is known for its lax academics and rampant drug use. The children at BWL are really the outcasts from all of the other privates. A very "nurturing" environment. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:47 AM Flag
»
np: WOW. dc's best friend from preschool goes to BWL. no, he's not the most academically inclined kid but he's certainly not a SN kid. through him we've met lots of other boys there and that doesn't describe any of them. I think they are going to be more understanding of the kid who maybe has a mild learning difference or some anxiety issue or something like that, but the kids are not problem kids, at least not in the way I think of problem kids. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 06:00 PM Flag
»
Then why did my friends dc get into an IVY? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 10:10 PM Flag
»
Parents have to figure out where their child will excel. Not every DC is cut out for "top academics" and to force it on some DC is cruel. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:46 PM Flag
»
Chapin is nurturing and has top academics and so does St. Ann's. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:53 PM Flag
»
I wouldn't call st. ann's nurturing (mom of 2 there). It's stimulating and liberating but it's no hand-holdy love fest (good for one of my kids, not so much for the other), trust me. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:50 PM Flag
»
Could you elaborate on in what ways SA is stimulating and liberating? Looking into SA for K. TIA. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:05 PM Flag
»
Got to be frank: it has almost no places for unconnected, non-faculty kids (maybe 3 or 4) and they are sooooo specific in what they are looking for (in your first kid, that is, which what bothers me. Lots of sibs there who are wildly mismatched with the school). SA is not into a well-rounded kid. It is into your kid following his or her bliss, diving deep, working independently. And they know how to pick that sort of kid at a very early age. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:26 PM Flag
»
Also curious and interested in saint Ann's. not much info out there on what they are like. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:15 PM Flag
»
Well, if Chapin and Brearley are fairly close academically, and everyone agrees that B is a "pressure cooker," why oh why would anyone choose Brearley over "nurturing" Chapin? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:51 PM Flag
»
I'll nurture my kid at home. I want her school to be demanding, not coddling. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:13 PM Flag
»
I don't have a DD, but a lot depends on the "feel" you get when you visit a place. Also, it's a bit simplistic to take two well-regarded places and deem one tougher than the other. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:38 PM Flag
»
They are both very nurturing in the lower school. Brearley becomes a "pressure cooker" later because it asks girls to leave if they can't perform. Chapin is "nurturing" later because it deals with its mistakes by putting them in the bottom track and carrying on (and hence does not have the college stats that Brearley does). If your kid is really smart, they are both extremely rigorous and competitive. That's all there is too it. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 01:49 AM Flag
»
OP, what is your definition of "nurturing"? It's just a word -- use something more specific so you can get better answers. Do you mean a school that "nurtures" brilliance? They all claim to do this. Do you mean a school that is understanding when dcs don't immediately grasp high level concepts? Lol! NYC private schools support hundreds of tutors because none of the schools really "nurture" kids who need any extra help. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:54 PM Flag
»
OP here: that's my point. They don't seem to mean "nurtures brilliance" when they say "nurturing." They seem to mean not very demanding academically. But I will look into Chapin as per poster above. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:56 PM Flag
»
I agree and that seems to be a New York thing. Nurturing = weak. It's odd. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:18 PM Flag
»
That's how euphemisms work. It would seem too nasty to say "undemanding" or "weak." "Nurturing" just sounds so much nicer. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:17 PM Flag
»
Nurturing is mostly used on UB to describe schools that are not very academic and mostly used by parents with kids at the so called third tier schools. Sweet is similar to nurturing except that it tends to be related to third tier schools that have been around longer. All the top schools, be it co-ed or ss or private or public, are nurturing. Collegiate, Trinity, Hunter, Spence...the care and attention at all these top schools and the level of involvement by the PTA are enormous. But, on UB, the families at second and third tier schools will continue to voice their frustrations saying that these schools lack windows, that they are pressure cookers, that they hold little concern for the students, that they are mainly filled with families who whip their kids if they bring home anything less than an A+...you get the point. We all get the point! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:46 PM Flag
»
THIS! Well said. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:48 PM Flag
»
All the top schools aren't nurturing at all. They don't give "care and attention". They have a rigorous curriculum and high expectations. Any school that has a high % of students who have tutors is not nurturing, period, especially when those students are actually very smart! IMO, the most nurturing schools are those where kids don't need tutors. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:49 PM Flag
»
Hey - what took you so long? Here we go again with the same bullshit over and over again. Now it's about kids needing tutors at TT schools and how the schools don't give care or attention to the students. WTF are you smoking? Explain to me then why it is that year after year - for decades - these schools receive more applicants than other schools? Explain to me why intelligent and caring parents continue to want to send their kids to these schools year after year - for decades? Explain to me how kids can perform at such a high level - for years - if they were not happy and got encouragement? Explain to me why so many legacies and alumni want to send their kids back to these schools? Now you are going to tell me some bullshit about some kid you know who hated her TT school and went to some random school, right? Now you are going to tell me how you know this and that family who passed had a horrible experience at a TT school. Of course you are going to tell me how passed on the TT schools. Seriously, its getting old. It got old ions ago! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:51 PM Flag
»
LOL - so true [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:51 PM Flag
»
Wow, what set you off? I didn't say that tt schools were awful, just that they aren't nurturing. If you disagree, the proper response would have been to say "yes they are - when students are struggling academically the top schools look for new ways to teach the material to them that might work better for them". THAT is nurturing. For your information, a brilliant student can like a school that isn't nurturing. Harvard isn't nurturing!! Are you telling me that very few dcs at tt private schools have tutors in high school? That only a tiny % of kids have tutors? I didn't know that. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:18 AM Flag
»
np: I wonder how many of these parents claiming that the top schools are nurturing have kids in MS+? They most definitely are not nurturing after about 4th grade. And, for the record, my dc doesn't think that's a bad thing. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:29 PM Flag
»
Not sure what schools that would be! My younger sister is a tutor, and the main school she works with is Calhoun. She says virtually all the 10th & 11th graders are being tutored because the school is really "nurturing" and doesn't pressure the kids at all, and almost all of them bomb every standardized test in sight. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:16 AM Flag
»
Not sure what schools that would be! My younger sister is a tutor, and the main school she works with is Calhoun. She says virtually all the 10th & 11th graders are being tutored because the school is really "nurturing" and doesn't pressure the kids at all, and almost all of them bomb every standardized test in sight. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:16 AM Flag
»
ITA - my nephew's tutor told me that she works mostly with CSH and Hewitt girls, and she never lacks for clients. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:18 PM Flag
»
Are you sure it wasn't your nephew's girlfriend's ex-neighbor's dog's tutor? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:36 PM Flag
»
Uh, no. And that's what she told me. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:39 PM Flag
»
You have a lot of contact with your nephew's tutor? So much that she gossips about where her other clients go to school? Bullshit. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:48 PM Flag
»
Why the anger? She was a guest at nephew's HS graduation party, and this is what she said. Didn't mention names, obviously. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:51 PM Flag
»
Right. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:46 PM Flag
»
My DH is a teacher at a top public high school and his friends mostly tutor kids at Trinity, fwiw. I think you just get into a groove at a certain school. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 01:47 AM Flag
»
If a school is kicking kids out who can't hack it, that's not nurturing. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:46 PM Flag
»
ALL schools do that. And they don't kick them out for shits and giggles. They try their hardest to make it work and keep the kids and over a period of a year or two the decision is made with the family and a school that is a better fit is agreed upon and the family receives support in the process to get the child to another school. This does not just happen overnight w/o the child or parent being well informed way ahead of time. Don't be so naive! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:48 PM Flag
»
lol! I don't think you understand the definition of "nurturing". If a school has high academic standards and expects every child to meet them or leave, that is the opposite of nurturing. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:14 AM Flag
»
So nurturing is having low standards and letting kids stay even if they don't meet those? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:33 AM Flag
»
Yes. Schools like BWL and Dwight are willing to do so, as long as the parent pays and, the child shows up to class. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:54 AM Flag
»
Isn't that less nurturing than realistic? I mean a place like BWL can't easily replace students who underperform, at least not with better performing students. IF Dalton counsels out, there are lots of kids who' love to taek those places, but who's gonna come to BWL in 10th grade other then an someone counselled out of a lower tier school. OF course their "nurturing" [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:27 AM Flag
»
Isn't that less nurturing than realistic? I mean a place like BWL can't easily replace students who underperform, at least not with better performing students. IF Dalton counsels out, there are lots of kids who' love to taek those places, but who's gonna come to BWL in 10th grade other then an someone counselled out of a lower tier school. OF course their "nurturing" [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:27 AM Flag
»
Honestly that is just not true. I have 3 kids in private, fwiw. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:09 PM Flag
»
Why not? If the kid can't hack it, should they stick around and get Ds all through high school? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:23 AM Flag
»
Some schools have better support systems than others, and some have multiple tracks: remedial classes, middle of the road, and honors. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:12 PM Flag
»
There really isn't a private that has remedial, middle of the road and honors. They simply don't have the focus or resources to handle all three segments. So, they typically focus on two out of the three tracks. Schools like BWL handle middle of the road and remedial. Schools like Friends handle middle of the road and honors. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 08:24 PM Flag
»
Yes they do! Many of them do. They don't call it "remedial" of course. It's Honor, A, and B or something like that. Especially for math and often for other classes. DC's school does. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 12:43 AM Flag
»
Schools kick out kids if, they are not academically fit, if they have behavioral problems and, if they are drug a users. "Nurturing" schools will overlook the disabilities and issues, as long as the parent pays. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:58 AM Flag
»
LOL at "drug users." I haven't found that to be the case. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:14 PM Flag
»
LOL x2 - everyone knows the best drugs are at the private schools. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:20 PM Flag
»
NPR did a piece on high schoolers smoking weed just this morning. The teenage reporter even cited how it was overlooked in private schools. In publics, the cops are called if kids have drugs. In private, they have to miss prom. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:19 PM Flag
»
There is nurturing and there is coddeling. Most schools with decent teachers have a level of nurturing. It is about the teachers. Coddeling is about the schools. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:50 PM Flag
»
Just walked past Friends and there is a sign that says "Torture is a moral issue" with a bunch of the kids smoking pot right there out in the open. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 12:37 AM Flag
»
Lower-tier privates in a nutshell. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 11:48 AM Flag
»
Please. Yes, no pot smoking at Trinity and HM, I'm sure. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 01:28 PM Flag
»
Plenty, but they have the savoir faire to do it in each other's apartments when the parents are away. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 02:20 PM Flag
»
You need to check the definition of savoir faire. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 05:41 PM Flag
»
D'accord. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 05:48 PM Flag
»
Totally wrong. We're at one of the schools being bashed on this thread and they counsel out kids every year (this is in the lower school). [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 06:27 PM Flag
[ - ] Sorry, quick g&t question: Has anyone ever gone to see their child's test? What can I expect? Has anyone ever discovered errors this way? I have heard some stories like one test had a page missing, another one the proctor marked an answer wrong (for the per-k child) I heard the appointment is only like 15 min. I would like any personal experiences if any on what to expect? TIA 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 08:26 PM Flag
»
Again! You really are paranoid [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:30 PM Flag
»
nope. don't have that much time on my hands. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:25 PM Flag
»
You can see your child's test? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:36 PM Flag
»
paranoid people can! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:40 PM Flag
»
I did years ago, and there were no surprises. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:42 PM Flag
»
I saw the breakdown of my childs score- upon request and investigation- I found 2 errors! His score should have moved from 96 to 97 (when recalculated) but instead it remained the same. When I received the breakdown, I saw they moved his age group from 0-2 months to 3-5 months .. he belonged in the first age band.. also.. they had an incorrect test date for him. they have been investigating for a week. Seems like they are trying to prolong this "investigation" to avoid another embarrassment. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:46 PM Flag
»
from this year? I didn't even know you could request the breakdown. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:40 AM Flag
»
from this year.. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 02:07 AM Flag
»
Where do you write/email the request to? Enrollment? Please any info would be greatly appreciated. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 02:18 AM Flag
»
Contact Grace Gonzales nyc G&T [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 02:21 AM Flag
»
According to the email we received from Victoria Murillo, Office of Assessment, Division of Academics, Performance, and Support, "Appointments will be scheduled throughout June and July. You will be given the opportunity to select an appointment date and time via a link that will be emailed to you on Friday, May 17, 2013."--After application closed and offers made. Does that make sense? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 07:53 AM Flag
»
++I'm talking about request to view DC's test. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 07:55 AM Flag
»
Is 0-2 mos=Jan-Feb? or is it at the end of the year? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:14 AM Flag
»
end of the yr [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:53 PM Flag
[ - ] How is Chelsea Day? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 05:51 PM Flag
»
It comes after Chelsea Morning? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:09 PM Flag
»
lovely sweet nurturing school...kind families and happy children. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:07 PM Flag
[ - ] Which HS have the strongest science programs? This is for a girl, so glad to hear about ss, private and public options. 40 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 04:59 PM Flag
»
Clearly, Stuyvesant and the Bronx HS of Science have national reputations and have graduated more Nobel Prize winners than many countries. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:01 PM Flag
»
Friend whose son went to BS said it was hard to get attention from faculty though. He wasn't the top 1%, so he did not get much focused time with his teachers [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:10 PM Flag
»
As high school students, getting the attention from teachers shouldn't be as critical as kindergarteners. I don't get it. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:54 PM Flag
»
np: You don't think having a mentor would be beneficial? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:54 PM Flag
»
Having a mentor is not the same as getting attention. If he has a question, he can ask the teacher, if he needs help, he can talk to the teacher. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:15 PM Flag
»
another np- I totally disagree! its a vulnerable time emotionally and socially for lots of kids, and its an important time where you begin to really form your own intellectual identity and learn work habits that you will need in college. Having teachers who actually know who the students are and give a crap about them (not just the very tippy top students) could be really important in high school. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 12:39 AM Flag
»
+1 [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 12:47 AM Flag
»
+2, and IME we go to all of the parent/teacher conferences at one of the large specialized high schools, and DD's teachers all know her very well. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 11:55 AM Flag
»
Most countries have 0 nobel prize winners. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:10 PM Flag
»
all TTs have 0 nobel prize winners. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:50 PM Flag
»
really? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:01 PM Flag
»
really. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:03 PM Flag
»
BS has been in somewhat of an uproar for a couple of years, though--lots of teacher turnover. Not sure what is going on there. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:47 PM Flag
»
I wish I could get more information about this. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:09 PM Flag
»
DD is at BxSci, and while a number of teachers did leave 2-3 years ago, I've never actually noticed an uproar. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:13 PM Flag
»
The teachers don't like the principal (I have a friend who left last year), though my opinion of the disputes is that they are very union-y/work rule-ish, versus really affecting the students [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:37 PM Flag
»
Brearley sends way more girls to MIT than the other girls' schools. That's a pretty good proxy for how strong in science a school is. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:12 PM Flag
»
How is that measured? One on a good year? There can't be too many, as the class is pretty small. Not knocking Brearley, but this isn't really a very substantial statement, and doesn't include anything about the curriculum. Maybe someone who actually has some facts might chime in [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:48 PM Flag
»
np: Do public schools release the names or genders with their college placement stats? I assume not but I am curious to know the ratio of girls to boys going on to schools like MIT. Not snarky, btw. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:44 PM Flag
»
How is it measured? The schools release these numbers on their websites. Pretty basic stuff, not sure what your problem is. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:23 AM Flag
»
Neither SS girls schools nor co-eds are big on science in this town. The established privates were created when humanities education was the bedrock. My dh, a research scientist, thinks our dds curriculum at Trinity (math too) is deplorable, though my dd loves the school. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:57 PM Flag
»
I agree but I think that's changing (slowly.) [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:55 PM Flag
»
What is your proof of this? Is this just your feeling? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:46 PM Flag
»
Ironic that you make a wholly unsupported statement in response to a query about science curric [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:55 PM Flag
»
I think that's changing because I just toured a bunch of high schools and asked specifically about their science and math programs. Many schools are investing heavily in labs, technology, and adding computer programming classes left and right. I saw this at several co-eds and ss schools. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:03 PM Flag
»
Which ones, specifically? I'm not interested in coding or tech (everyone's doing that, it's trendy). That's not science by my definition. I'm talking biology, chem, physics [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:58 PM Flag
»
Chapin, HM, Riverdale, NBS, Dalton, Spence, and MM. I didn't look at CSH. The girls schools in particular seemed to be renovating and heavily expanding their programs. I'm sure you can find their programs online if you are interested. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:12 PM Flag
»
As someone who graduated from Nightingale in the 1990s, I HOPE they're renovating their science programs because they were really pathetic, and at least until recently, appeared to have remained so. Luckily, I was a humanities gal. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:19 PM Flag
»
We applied and toured this year and there was a lot of talk of science but honestly I thought the labs were not impressive. However they could have fantastic science teachers, I would not know. When I think about Nightingale humanities (especially Latin) come to mind. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:34 PM Flag
»
np: They bought 2 buildings next door and are expanding, like CSH and MM did recently. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 05:35 PM Flag
»
High School for Math, Science and Engineering. Top flight science curriculum, smaller than Stuy or Bronx Sci, so more attention from faculty. Sending two girls to MIT from this year's graduating class. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:35 PM Flag
»
Yes, we toured MSE and we were very impressed; the bright peer group of a specialized HS in a smaller setting. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:04 PM Flag
»
I'm a big fan of the specialized public HSs, but I think the whole Nobel Prize thing is a red herring. Those prizes were largely won by the wave of European Jewish immigrants who came over a bit before WWII. No way their families could have afforded private even if they would have admitted them, and many were the offspring of highly accomplished intellectuals and academics who valued education as the way to get ahead and, as intellectuals/academics, had the DNA to make it happen. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:11 PM Flag
»
so they educated themselves? it isn't a coicidence that so many from the NYS specialized schools have Nobels (and all kinds of other prizes). I mean, they have more Pulitzers than TTs, and that would be more in the humanities wheelhouse. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:46 PM Flag
»
They didn't educate themselves, but these men (most, if not all were men, I've never checked) would likely have done well wherever they went. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:05 PM Flag
»
np: All are men. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:18 PM Flag
»
Ok then restrict it to graduates from 1985 on (or pick a year). The TTs still have zero and the specialized HSs still have quite a few. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 11:52 AM Flag
»
No they don't. The most recent to win was a guy from Class of 66. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 12:00 PM Flag
»
Many Nobel laureates are older people. Or are you saying that the specialized high schools don't have the right sort of laureates? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 12:02 PM Flag
»
np:Did you not read the post to which she was applying? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 01:32 PM Flag
[ - ] Wow, excellent exmissions from Spence this year! 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 04:04 PM Flag
»
that's a word? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:13 PM Flag
»
equal to Trinity? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:15 PM Flag
»
Tacky word. Just say college placement. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:12 PM Flag
»
Do you have a link? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:25 PM Flag
»
Spence doesn't release this info until June. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:34 PM Flag
»
The parents must know by now how everyone did. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:11 PM Flag
»
Maybe high school parents. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:07 PM Flag
»
Fake [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:24 PM Flag
»
Agreed, DD is a freshman at Spence and I was very impressed as well. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:17 PM Flag
»
I heard two girls not going to college! How is that possible? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:47 PM Flag
»
Really? That is like 5% of the class! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:57 PM Flag
»
Whoa. Are you sure they aren't taking a gap year? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:06 PM Flag
»
if you can hack it at spence you can get into college [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 03:38 PM Flag
[ - ] Does Dalton counsel kids out? 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 03:59 PM Flag
»
Is the pope catholic? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 03:59 PM Flag
»
Every school does to some extent. They just vary in how quickly they do it. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:06 PM Flag
»
All the private schools do this if it suits their purposes. These are private institutions and they're under no obligation to keep any student in the program. Yay, public. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:07 PM Flag
»
I know someone who was kicked out of public. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:32 PM Flag
»
The other side of the coin is that publics must admit everyone and will not kick out anyone unless they've done something absolutely horrible. That's not the peer group I would be YAYing for. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 06:09 PM Flag
»
Yes, all private schools do. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:05 PM Flag
»
public, public, public [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:25 PM Flag
»
Not really. A lot of them do but not all, unless the child needs special services. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:31 PM Flag
»
Or unless the school is messing with its college acceptance statistics, of course. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:34 PM Flag
»
It's just not accurate to say ALL private schools counsel out. Not even close. There are private schools that accept kids counseled out of TT/2T schools, others that provide services for kids who are struggling (often for extra tuition) and still others that commit to teaching the kids they accept. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:38 PM Flag
»
So do parochials. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:13 PM Flag
»
I think Daton does this less often than others, like HM. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:47 PM Flag
»
ITA. I think the kid has to really be struggling to keep up for this to be an issue at Dalton. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:49 PM Flag
»
Dalton mom here. D, like all schools. accepts that there will be kids who are not as academically gifted/motivated as others. Not many have left in our years there.There's very good support throughout the years (Which is good, as the workload is crushing), and while the schools college acceptances are great, it's not like they expect every kid to be a stellar student or go to an ivy league school. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:57 PM Flag
»
Yes. Every school does. I know a dc who was asked to leave in 1st grade at a TT. No behavior issues but the kid could not keep up and was not reading at grade level. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:13 PM Flag
»
It actually benefits both the student and the school in this particular case. So I see it as a good thing. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 06:22 PM Flag
»
We can agree to disagree, but I don't get how a teacher (in a "TT" where the kids are "the elite") would not be able to teach a 1st grader to read, thinking it preferable to eject her. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 06:44 PM Flag
»
Learning disabilities can be hard to detect in a 4 year old. Some of these issues are better treated in a specialized environment, which a TT is not. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 06:55 PM Flag
»
Fair enough, but the PP doesn't say that there were any learning disabilities. She said that the kid "was not reading at grade level". What was the teacher doing or not doing, I wonder? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 06:52 PM Flag
»
Most likely the teacher was not releasing privileged information to other parents. Also a good thing. =) [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:00 PM Flag
»
I would also venture to say that counseling out is not solely the teacher's discretion. The school surely gave it a lot of thought. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 07:00 PM Flag
»
I know a kid like this in a 3rd tier school and he really is WAY behind for some reason. It's just different from the other kids in the "slow" reading group who will surely catch up without a tremendous amount of special instruction. Teachers can spot where the real issues are IME, and those are best addressed in more supportive environment. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.10.13, 01:47 AM Flag
[ - ] Teachers: What's it Like Scoring the State Tests? http://www.schoolbook.org/2013/05/07/teachers-whats-it-like-scoring-the-new-exams/ 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 03:55 PM Flag
»
I wish more teachers would respond. Dying to know what they think! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:06 PM Flag
»
Interesting and yet scary, all at once! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:10 PM Flag
»
http://www.schoolbook.org/2013/05/07/teachers-whats-it-like-scoring-the-new-exams/ [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:24 PM Flag
[ - ] PS133 dual language or PS29? Anyone? 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 03:45 PM Flag
[ - ] The test for G&T should be made harder then lottery is gone. Since it's hard enough, only those really gifted, with or without prepping, may qualify. BTW, prepping is a good thing - similar to playing baseball with your kids. THIS gifted system is for academically gifted and we should also have gifted school for arts, music, and sports. 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 03:37 PM Flag
»
ITA, lottery when it comes to giftedness is absurd [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:02 PM Flag
»
disagree about prepping for g&t. giftedness should be innate. agree that prepping for things like shs makes sense because there it is academic talent. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:04 PM Flag
»
"innate" is a little tricky b/c enrichment in the early years can make a regular kid look pretty similar to a gifted kid. At the same time a lack of enrichment in the early years can make a gifted kid look like a regular kid. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:14 PM Flag
»
OP here - Nothing is perfect, and we all want a gifted class with all gifted kids, not one with only half the kids gifted. As a society we need leaders in science and technology who can create 21-century WWW, everyone will be benefited from them. If the test is creative, kids with less enrichment can still qualify, just like Hunter test. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:51 PM Flag
»
Odd thing is we continually cut from the gifted programs and transfer resources to special needs [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:12 PM Flag
»
That's not odd--the payoff is huge for funding special needs and as the parent of a gifted dc (I mean gifted in the IQ test definition of it), I'd rather see the money going to a kid who needs the extra help to reach the standards. My kid will, in all likelihood, go to college and get a decent job. It's in society's best interest to make sure all kids have a chance to do that. 99.9% of gifted kids will be fine in regular classrooms (I know...everyone will wail...but what if my darling is bored?!?! They'll still be ok). Kids who fall behind tend to stay behind and drop out. They can't get jobs and become a drain on society. Better to get them help early on. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:29 PM Flag
»
Brava! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:51 PM Flag
»
Gifted kids will do fine in regular classrooms, just like US will do fine as any other countries. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:57 PM Flag
»
? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:05 PM Flag
»
I guess it means, US will then be just like any other country, and not the world leader in science and tech anymore. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:04 PM Flag
»
Really? Do you think all the kids who grew up to be inventors/innovators had gifted education to thank for it? Come on--you're being ridiculous. There are loads of reasons why the US isn't going to be the leader in many things anymore--the biggest reason is that China and India's economies are surpassing ours. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:10 PM Flag
»
Yes, I do believe all those inventors/innovators have benefited from their education, not necessarily here though. We have been in great luck in the past to attract best scientists from around the world including Europe, Russia and China. They've used their education to help us build the best universities and companies in US. Our luck may run out one day. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:19 PM Flag
»
More g&t seats won't fix this. Our luck held out while we had little competition. Now we have competition. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:46 PM Flag
»
I totally agree that certain kids need special help like those with autism, etc. What I don't understand is, what cause those bad gen ed schools bad? Teachers in those schools all have license, education degree(s), nice classrooms, playground... How come children from India, Russia, China, Vietnam who lack all of that still do much better? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:05 PM Flag
»
Hunter test is expensive to administer--OLSAT/NNAT is a fraction of the cost. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:31 PM Flag
»
It doesn't need to be that expensive, any kindergarten teacher can do that. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:07 PM Flag
»
Doesn't Hunter use psychologists? Why would they do that if they could use k teachers? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:11 PM Flag
»
To be felt prestigious [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:20 PM Flag
»
I don't think that's it--real IQ tests require training to administer [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:45 PM Flag
»
We don't need 100% accurate, and even Hunter needs the 2nd round. Combining this with more advanced tests may get more accurate evaluation. Considering all the money DOE has spent and will be spending, expanding the test sounds a better solution. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 07:02 PM Flag
»
true but it also needs to be fairly inexpensive or else why take it from the rest of the kids? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 11:01 PM Flag
»
The DOE should do what it started to do 6 years ago- end corruption, standardize test, set minimums to 95 not 90 and continue to build out a school or two a year. If they want to shake things up - score it by district instead of city for districtwide eligibility, set a fixed number of seats and call it a day. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:35 PM Flag
»
Everything's been going to charters [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:35 PM Flag
[ - ] Christine C. Quinn, the City Council speaker, proposes a significant overhaul of gifted and talented program that would provide more G&T seats and loosen admissions requirements. You can click on the link for more details: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/nyregion/quinn-proposes-a-plan-to-add-slots-and-schools-for-gifted-students.html?src=rechp&_r=0 Please call her or email her at cquinn@council.nyc.gov to let her know that we are supporting her proposal to add more G&T seats, but we are strongly against the proposal of loosening admissions requirements. 32 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 01:14 PM Flag
»
It will greatly reduced the quality of the G&T program and won't serve a child's best interest. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:15 PM Flag
»
This! We don't need more G&T programs, we need more good gen eds. The G&T needs to be way more selective, like Hunter, and serve only the really smart kids. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:41 PM Flag
»
It won't serve the goal of the G&T program, i.e. "provide challenging instruction to children with exceptional academic capacity". [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:15 PM Flag
»
Except the children are not of exceptional academic capacity are they [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:20 PM Flag
»
Unless you believe that 50% of the kids in NYC have exceptional academic capacity - at least in D3. Must be something in the water - or the prepping must be really good. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:56 PM Flag
»
You mean 50% of the kids who took the test. Thousands of kids didn't take the test. I agree that numbers are inflated but get your facts right. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:20 PM Flag
»
She is don't it for the votes. Once she is Mayor expect her proposal to suddenly not be viable [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:24 PM Flag
»
^doing [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:19 PM Flag
»
No but I will call her to ask to get rid of g&t [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:19 PM Flag
»
why? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:27 PM Flag
»
Start G&T in higher grades. Children enter kindergarten with varying abilities. Why is it important to do rigorous work in kindergarten and 1st grade anyway? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:58 PM Flag
»
this is a great point. wouldn't hurt to start the program in 2nd grade. aside from the testing, one component of admissions criteria could be assessment of their 1st grade work. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:07 PM Flag
»
This!!! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 03:43 PM Flag
»
FYI, the G&T program isn't mandatory. If you don't want your child attending a G&T program before fourth grade, don't send them! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:38 PM Flag
»
How funny. The only way to get more blacks into G&T is to lower the bar, thus eviscerating the principal qualification of both "gifted" or "talented". If you set the bar low enough, everyone is G&T! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:35 PM Flag
»
I think G&T should be called "lottery, family convenience & minority" program [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:39 PM Flag
»
^^don't forget prep too. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:46 PM Flag
»
Of course you prep - don't you prep for a business meeting or job interview or a college entrance exam or anything else important in life? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:55 PM Flag
»
Of course you do, but they are supposedly looking for gifted kids. Prepping for that test is so easy and so many people do it, that the results are meaningless. The kids who score 99 are maybe very smart, but many are just average kids with ambitious parents. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:09 PM Flag
»
and btw, I prepped. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:10 PM Flag
»
Don't think that is true. I kid who w/o prepping would have gotten an 85 would not get a 99 by simply prepping. What is true is that a kid who w/o prepping would get a 92 could end-up getting a 98 by prepping or that a kid who w/o prepping would get an 83 could end-up getting a 90 by prepping. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:09 PM Flag
»
But 92 is still far from gifted. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:31 PM Flag
»
Closer than an 85! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 03:48 PM Flag
»
minority? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:52 PM Flag
»
By loosening the admissions requirements, she is suggesting disadvantaged kids can be admitted via teacher recommendation instead of test scores. This seems difficult to regulate and set a standard. Surely there must be a fair minimum score for all, no? Maybe she should push for more school choices and excellent charter school programs instead of lowering standards for the G&T program? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:02 PM Flag
»
I don't like charters--using public $ but they can pick and choose the students--then they say "we're a success!" when their hand picked kids do well. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 06:01 PM Flag
»
G&T was already a joke as many of the G&T programs are not any better than good gen ed schools like PS 184, PS 199, or PS 158. With this coming along, it will only make it more so. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:11 PM Flag
»
Not a joke if you have a crappy zoned school! [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:20 PM Flag
»
Why would you need to say they are a 'joke"? Gross. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 12:21 AM Flag
»
A tiny fraction of kids from well off families are able to attend "good gen ed" schools. Are you really this ignorant? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.09.13, 01:55 PM Flag
»
At least as characterized in the paper, the loosened admission requirements wil be window dressing. They appear to address the issue of minority admissions, without actually having a material effect. If your long term goal is to preserve standards, window dressing is exactly what you want. In the absence of any action on minority enrollments, there is a material chance of change that will actually destroy the G&T program. Quinn's proposal greatly reduces that possibility. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:31 PM Flag
»
ita [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:36 PM Flag
[ - ] PS 158 or PS 290 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 01:02 PM Flag
»
Where do you live? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:05 PM Flag
»
290, more creative curriculum, better principal by far. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 03:43 PM Flag
»
agree. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:26 PM Flag
»
both good schools. ps158 bigger building with better gym and school yard [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:08 PM Flag
[ - ] Lower Lab or TAG 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 01:02 PM Flag
»
you really have no life [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 12:59 PM Flag
»
Did you tour both? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:23 PM Flag
»
TAG [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:06 PM Flag
»
TAG [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 02:11 PM Flag
»
Lower Lab. Not even close imo. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:06 PM Flag
»
Depends if you want progressive (LL) or traditional(TAG). If you want diversity (TAG) or very little diversity (LL). Etc. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 04:26 PM Flag
»
tag is not anywhere near as strong a school academically as lab. and that's all that really matters. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 05:26 PM Flag
»
NP: Says who? Do you have a child at each to really compare? No horse in this race, by the way. But you sound like a snob. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 08:08 PM Flag
»
look at the test scores. you don't need a dc at both to compare. it has nothing to do with snobbery. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 09:54 PM Flag
»
LL has longer track record. LL has families that all live in D2, so easier to get together. TAG families might be more spread out. Both fill up with 99's so similar type students [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 10:09 PM Flag
[ - ] Bank Street or Calhoun 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 01:00 PM Flag
»
Bank [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:07 PM Flag
»
Calhoun is a great school [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:53 PM Flag
[ - ] Regis or Brooklyn Latin 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 01:00 PM Flag
»
Are you done, or will you be doing this all day? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 12:55 PM Flag
»
please go away, i said please [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:01 PM Flag
»
If your child was offered a seat at Regis and you can't decide between Regis and Brooklyn Latin then by all means go to Brooklyn Latin and leave the Regis seat to someone who appreciates it. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:05 PM Flag
»
Since the SHSAT for Brooklyn Latin is not given this time of year, I believe I speak for all of UB when I ask you to go away. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:05 PM Flag
»
Fake [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:06 PM Flag
[ - ] Rudolf Steiner or Ramaz 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 12:58 PM Flag
»
Yes [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 12:53 PM Flag
»
No. [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:06 PM Flag
»
Which is it? [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:53 PM Flag
[ - ] Metropolitan Montessori or Dwight 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 12:57 PM Flag
»
Yes [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 12:53 PM Flag
»
your ruin ub for everyone [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:02 PM Flag
»
your ruin ub for everyone [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 01:03 PM Flag
[ - ] Speyer or York Prep 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
 ]
NY Schools 05.08.13, 12:57 PM Flag
»
Yes [ Reply | More
]
General Topics 05.08.13, 12:53 PM Flag
Refresh » New Post »
Select Category
close [X]

close [X]

Select a Category (only 1)

category
Stages
Regions