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[ - ] We love progressive and think DS would thrive in that kind of environment. However he is very "advanced" academically & will also need a school that's rigorous. Of course we are/will tour, but also wondering what people here think would be the best fit. We live on the UWS if that matters. Thanks! 33 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.12.13, 07:57 PM Flag
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Dalton is progressive, yet rigorous. Very hard to get into though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:01 PM Flag
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Thanks, Dalton is on the list! Several kids from our preschool got in last year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 07:56 PM Flag
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That means that many will most likely apply again this year, making your DS chances even smaller. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:05 PM Flag
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It also means they are likely to take a few new kids again from that preschool, especially if the ones admitted this year integrate well. -np [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 01:59 PM Flag
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not that hard if your DH is a banker [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 03:02 PM Flag
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ethical culture is also [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:03 PM Flag
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Saint Ann's, but also very difficult to get into, and not convenient to UWS (though there are kids who live there attending) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:03 PM Flag
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May I ask by what means you have determined he is advanced? Everyone thinks their 4yo is "advanced". [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:04 PM Flag
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Np. Really? There was only one kid in our preschool who could really read and act mature at 4. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:18 PM Flag
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Wow, bc at our public pre-k there were at least 9 kids (out of 18) who could do this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 12:15 PM Flag
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Are you diverse/rich/connected? If not, your DS chances of getting into a rigorous progressive (ECF, Dalton, St Ann's) are very slim even with good ERB scores. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:08 PM Flag
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+1 Look into Calhoun and BWL. Both lovely, less competitive progressives. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:03 PM Flag
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Doesn't "lovely" = "not that strong"? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:29 PM Flag
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yes. I have stepson at BWL, and it's a nice, patient place (we're grateful for that), but there aren't very many academically strong kids there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 12:37 AM Flag
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BWL is progressive? Never heard that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:33 PM Flag
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np--Birch Wathen Lenox School is a traditional school with extra support for kids. It's not a progressive school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 01:47 AM Flag
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Not true. We are not diverse (i.e. we are white with a traditional family), not rich, not connected and have 3 DCs at Dalton. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:21 PM Flag
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This is rare though. All that I'm saying is that it's extremely difficult to get in like this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:17 PM Flag
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It's actually not rare at all. I'd say easily half the families at Dalton fit this description (and yes, the other half are rich/diverse/connected). -NP (and another white average Dalton parent) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:22 PM Flag
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np- for every white average kid going to Dalton there are 50 who didnt get in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:23 PM Flag
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^^signed, non-Dalton parent. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:24 PM Flag
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Well, it's a school in demand. I bet you could also say the same for rich and diverse who didn't get in. Sorry, but people with $20 million + are a dime a dozen in NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:38 PM Flag
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Don't you have to be rich to have 3 DCs at Dalton? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:28 PM Flag
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ITA!! I call bullshit on that "not rich" part! We can't even afford tuition for 1 dc and we're not at all poor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 12:28 AM Flag
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In private, your idea of rich gets skewed. Our hhi is 800K and I don't feel at all rich, which I know is a matter of the strange economics of private schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 12:39 AM Flag
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Um, I think people here are talking about rich in terms of "rich enough to have a real leg up in admissions". That number is in the mid 9 figures, not $800K. LOL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 01:49 PM Flag
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^^^ Fwiw, whether you have a HHI of $300K or $3 million is of no difference to a school. Neither family is going to be making big deal donations (ie funding a renovation). Both count as "not rich" as far as the school is concerned because the revenue from these families is going to be basically the same. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 01:57 PM Flag
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Dalton, Ethical Culture/Fieldston, St. Ann's, Bank Street, Cathedral [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:32 PM Flag
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my dc went to a progressive public with mixed age classrooms and this was perfect for an advanced child. The teacher already has to teach to different abilities. I can not say enough about dc's academic experience. They also have pull outs for advanced readers and math whizzes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:23 PM Flag
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which one?! i want to know for next year. thank you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:40 PM Flag
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it's a zoned school, so you would have to move. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:43 PM Flag
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i'm not op: maybe i live in your zone! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:55 PM Flag
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ethical culture, dalton, SA. thats kind of it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 02:12 AM Flag
[ - ] In your opinion, is Nightingale on par or close to on par with Brearley, Chapin, and Spence? Why or why not? 31 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.12.13, 03:57 PM Flag
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It's second tier based on college placement (tt is about college placement and little else). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 03:59 PM Flag
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In your opinion, are CSH and MM third tier or second tier as well? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:00 PM Flag
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MM is third tier. CSH is second tier (though some on UB argue it's third tier--probably because it's Catholic and there are lots of Catholic haters here). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:02 PM Flag
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CSH could be on the boarder line of a 2nd or 3rd tier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:59 PM Flag
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The "boarder"? Who are you to talk about tiers? LOL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 02:28 PM Flag
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My kids attend TT SS thank you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 08:06 PM Flag
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your kids - I was talking about you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 02:31 PM Flag
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Having direct experience of both, MM and CSH are absolutely at the same level (2T in my own opinion). In many ways I personally prefer MM. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 02:50 PM Flag
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tt: B, C, S 2nd tier: CSH, NBS 3rd tier: MM 4th tier: Hewitt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:03 PM Flag
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Precisely. Why can't they see this and why ask this question or the ranking over and over again? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 03:16 AM Flag
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It is drill and kill. Different from the other three, and since most people don't think that is a particularly effective teaching style these days, I don't think they get the same caliber of students or teachers. At least that was our opinion based on what we saw and what we decided after talking to many parents there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:08 PM Flag
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Fwiw, a generation ago, all these schools had the same teaching style and curriculum. B, S, and C evolved. NBS *could* change with the new HOS and might be a very different place five years from now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:20 PM Flag
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No, but very respected and solid 2nd tier school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:50 PM Flag
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We worked with a tutoring service for admissions testing. One of the principals felt that the upper school academics at Nightingall have trailed off in recent years. OTOH, we know some lovely families with bright and engaged daughters [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:39 PM Flag
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Their college placement has improved in recent years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 10:20 PM Flag
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No it is not on par with either of the other three schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 11:22 PM Flag
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NIghtingale is much on par with Marymount than with either of those three schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 11:22 PM Flag
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Never was and never will be [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 11:23 PM Flag
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Well if it is so inferior I wonder why there were 400 people at each admission event last fall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 02:52 PM Flag
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People need a safety school! There are barely 100 spots at Spence, Chapin and Brearley combined. And btw, over 1,000 kids apply to Horace Mann, over 3,000 to Hunter...so 400 is really peanuts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 05:41 PM Flag
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Lower tier ss schools are also high on the list for siblings who don't get into tt coeds (argument is "we chose coed for older dc, but really feel ss is better for the younger one). -np [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 08:11 PM Flag
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I've heard that more than a few times. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 03:56 PM Flag
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Not on par in just about any way you compare the schools, from past and current college exmissions, to past and recent national merit scholars, to historical average sat scores, to ranking in every school poll that has ever come out...No [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 11:24 PM Flag
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Where are you getting average sat scores from ? I have never seen that data - is there such information available for each school - really ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 12:10 PM Flag
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Nightingale is solid second tier school. Brearley, Chapin and Spence all Top Tier schools along with Collegiate, Horace Mann, Dalton and Trinity (and Hunter and Stuyvesant). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 11:25 PM Flag
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You know the answer, we know the answer, everyone knows the answer - NO [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 11:26 PM Flag
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Do you people realize how idiotic you all sound? Just listen to yourselves. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 02:27 PM Flag
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Personally I was neutral about NBS. It seemed like a solid school, but it was not a school I was excited about. I had the same feeling about Chapin, CSH and Hewitt, and did not like Spence at all. The two schools that I loved were Brearley and MM - which are very different in many ways. But my opinion is useless to you because it is just that - an opinion. And that is what you will find on this forum: personal views, mostly written by people with a specific agenda in mind (including a very strong anti-Catholic bias) and with very little experience of any of the actual schools (and certainly nobody here has comparative experience of all the schools!). People on this forum will uniformly focus on current college placements (13 years from now who knows what they will be?) and not on values, educational philosophy, fit with the child’s personality and a number of other aspects that I think a parent should focus on. So my suggestion is to come on UB for specific factual information, not for opinions. GL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 02:47 PM Flag
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ITA - A rational statement. You have no place on UB! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 03:35 PM Flag
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ITA+2 - who let the sane person on? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 06:20 PM Flag
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+ 3 Are you my clone ? I had the same reactions to the schools. I loved Brearley and MM and was shocked that I did as I expected to either hate or at least feel neutral about them. We pulled applications because we are now living outside of NY for 2 years. I will have to start anew for 2nd/3rd grade and am putting those two at the top of my list. Very, very different but they were the two places we liked best. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 12:20 PM Flag
[ - ] Moms with DDs in SS schools? When did your DD start have guy friends/a boyfriend? Where did she meet them? Did they typically go to SS schools as well? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.12.13, 02:34 PM Flag
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Ask fm [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 02:30 PM Flag
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What? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 02:31 PM Flag
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My daughter goes to Chapin and most of the people she meets from other schools are sports events but the guys mostly from some of the mixed events they have at the sister/brother schools and also from parties with her friends. She had her first bf junior year from another young man at Collegiate but she was friends with guys from other schools for a while. They'll meet them very easily. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 03:01 PM Flag
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ITA. They also just meet a ton of boys through their friends--the kids all tend to travel in packs, and if someone knows someone from somewhere (extracurricular, camp, siblings, etc.), everyone who is remotely social seems to know them--this goes for knowing boys and also girls from other schools. The ss schools form one giant social group IME. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:13 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone know the default test date that was used in the g&t score miscalculation? I know someone on here had actually seen the breakdown of the score which included the incorrect test date. Please share! Thanks 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.12.13, 02:10 AM Flag
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1/21/13... Our actual test date was 1/13/13 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 02:18 AM Flag
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how did you find out? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 02:46 AM Flag
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Wouldn't that have helped you? i.e. your dc was actually older than they thought when he took the test. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 02:47 AM Flag
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No- it was against our advantage.. The younger you are the more you can get wrong [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 03:45 PM Flag
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It depends on whether that week put you into a higher age bracket (unlikely). The test is scored in age bands. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:30 PM Flag
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So you'd have to be at the very edge of an age band for this to matter right? Wish it helped my March 28th dc! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 12:35 AM Flag
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Yes, that's right. I don't know what the age bands are on G&T, but on ERB they are 3 months, i.e. test taken at age 4.0-4.2, 4.3-4.5, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 01:59 PM Flag
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g&t 3 months too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 03:09 PM Flag
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So many of the Kids who took the test BEFORE 1/21/13 got an advantage- because they were scored as being younger than they really were? That's kind of messed up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 05:04 PM Flag
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yup--I have the march 28th kid who took it on the 21st--wish I'd signed up for an earlier slot! missed 99 by 2 questions [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 07:44 PM Flag
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But those kids' scores are not going to be corrected downward? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 01:28 AM Flag
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No. Now that is really messed up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 03:06 PM Flag
[ - ] Are all of the NYC SS schools traditional? Are there any progressive? 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 11:13 PM Flag
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Not really, but I think all the good schools are a bit eclectic when they feel it would be good educationally. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:18 PM Flag
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I think by definition a single sex school is traditional. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:31 PM Flag
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You clearly have no idea what a definition is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:44 AM Flag
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Could you have a progressive school that didn't allow black students? Isn't one of the premises of progressive education that children learn from each other and construct their own knowledge? Isn't the idea of progressive education to construct as wide a basis of knowledge as possible? When you've started with a school that is formed by design to consist of only one gender, haven't you restricted that possibility according to these premises? Certainly all the early progressive schools (City and Country, Bank Street, The Lab School) were coed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 09:41 AM Flag
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Darling, there are very few non-white students at C+C and almost everyone agrees it is progressive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 06:34 PM Flag
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Spence is the most progressive out of the girls' schools. They even use the Harkness table in some classes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:38 PM Flag
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Harkness/seminar style teaching is not indicative of a progressive school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:49 PM Flag
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NP- Yes, typically it is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:01 AM Flag
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I may stand corrected. Here's a report from a science teacher from Lakeside School (Seattle) visiting Exeter: http://reallybigyear.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/teaching-science-using-the-harkness-method/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:16 AM Flag
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Seminar tables have been used for centuries in schools/universities in Europe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:09 AM Flag
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Marymount uses this method for most classes outside of mathematics [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 12:15 PM Flag
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What is that? Sorry some how got through life without knowing this info. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:51 PM Flag
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When instead of sitting in desks, students sit around a table when taught. More progressive way of learning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:01 AM Flag
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harkness_table [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:02 AM Flag
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Sitting at a desk is preferable when kids are expected to master skills and learn directly from what teacher is saying and writing on the board. Sitting at harkness tables is preferable when they are learning as much from each other's thoughts/ideas and the classroom discussion. It is like the difference between college lecture classes and seminars. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:23 PM Flag
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Marymount uses tables for many classes...pretty traditional but the seating style is not what makes progressive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:22 AM Flag
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In some classes? All of them do! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:44 AM Flag
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Spence lower school seemed the most progressive of all the schools we toured, including some coed progressives. Chapin was more of a mix, but curriculum was extremely similar to ECFS and Dalton. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:09 PM Flag
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^^^ boys schools were all quite traditional IMO. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:09 PM Flag
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Spence is progressive, how so ? Really ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 12:15 PM Flag
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NP: you need to know more about the curriculum and not just form an opinion on superficial assumptions. i know a Spence lower school student whose entire year was based around various experiential exercises to teach deductive reasoning, writing, math and even history -- that is progressive [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 06:37 PM Flag
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None of them are progressive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 06:27 PM Flag
[ - ] Post here if you have been notified by DOE that your kid's G&T score has been changed as a result of this latest error. How and when did the DOE notify you, and how did the score change? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 09:42 PM Flag
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My DC is off the charts. The highest score in town. They are setting up a special school just for him. Perhaps a few other lucky ones will be added, but it will call for additional testing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 09:45 PM Flag
[ - ] DD is in seventh grade at a NYC SS school and is very interested in BS for high school. I've just started researching the ones which she is interested in and I was wondering, how hard is it to get into these top boarding schools? DD has made straight A-s/As since fourth grade, plays three sports and is very good. If she scores well on her SSATs and her interviews go well, will she have her pick? Or is it more similar to NYC school admissions where you're lucky to get into one? Sorry, I'm very new to this, TIA for your answers! 29 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 03:14 PM Flag
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Go to wwww.collegeconfidential.com they have a board for boarding schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:09 PM Flag
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Prep school board, with a subgroup for parents (scroll down on main page to the see prep school posts). ignore the chances sub-board as it's totally depressing (kids with perfect everythings sweating over their chances for admissions). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:33 PM Flag
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np: But she's asking about her dd's chances here, essentially. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:52 AM Flag
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Where is your DD currently in school? Where is she interested in? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:12 PM Flag
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She's currently at Spence. Right now she's most interested in Deerfield, but also Andover, Exeter, Hotchkiss, Groton, and St. Paul's School are on our list. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:14 PM Flag
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Those are the top schools. I mean, of COURSE they're on her list. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:20 PM Flag
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So strange for you to post such specific info (grade, school) about a kid (probably not your kid, either, but one you know). By the way, I know S doesn't give letter grades until grade 7. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:41 PM Flag
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I went to Deerfield and loved it! Sounds like a great kid, lots of great schools out there, she will find a school that's the right fit for her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:52 PM Flag
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I would expand that list to include some schools that have somewhat easier admissions. (You might want to look at Choate, Taft, Concord, Loomis-Chaffee, Emma Willard.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:40 PM Flag
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Admissions are very difficult even with top scores. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:28 PM Flag
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Stop being bitter and incendiary. This child is a top student at Spence. Assuming her scores are good and she is very well thought of by the Spence admin, she will get in to at least one, if not several of these. Signed, Andover grad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:43 PM Flag
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I agree. Toughest competition for the best boarding schools is among the international students. That said, I would never send my kid to either Andover or Exeter. You screw your child for college admissions. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:58 PM Flag
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Why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:03 PM Flag
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That's totally not true, though you probably think your kid is screwed if she doesn't go to HYP. Truth is, however, that she's just as screwed at Spence or Great Neck North. The paradox in thinking here is that you want your kid to go to a great high school so they can have an fantastic experience that is super-rigorous, and yet her chance of going to HYP is diminished by the competition. For what it's worth, Andover was the greatest three years of my life, shaped my ideas, my mind, my social persona, my body as an athlete. I went to Stanford and my bff went to Amherst. I think we did okay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:59 PM Flag
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^^FWIW, if you are obsessed w HYP, move to Nevada or Alaska and send your kid to the local school there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:03 PM Flag
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Rejected HYP? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:19 PM Flag
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Ah, it comes out. You were an athlete ... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:19 PM Flag
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What do you mean? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:20 PM Flag
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So is OP's kid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 05:49 PM Flag
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Three school sports at a girls school does not an athlete make. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:45 AM Flag
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Well I'm the Andover poster and I guess I wasn't an athlete either; I rowed crew and played volleyball, and I did both a collegiate level. Not exactly Venus Williams, but athletics were part of what I loved about boarding school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 03:39 AM Flag
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What are you talking about? The smartest girls from nyc private schools go to those kind of boarding schools, and then they go to top colleges. For the most part, these girls are wicked smart, wicked rich, wickedly driven, and... wickedly well-educated by the time they are applying. Harvard takes dozens of kids every year from Andover alone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 02:02 PM Flag
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How am I bitter and incendiary? Admissions ARE difficult. My dc didn't want to look at boarding but many of her friends did, and I've witnessed how it works at the boys schools for many years. You can hardly write your own ticket. They are tough schools. She'll likely get into one or maybe two but "have her pick?" Doubtful. And at Spence, there is no advisor helping her with BS admissions. On the positive side, she's female. From what I understand, there are many more male applicants. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:16 PM Flag
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^^OP should definitely read College Confidential. Especially the Chances board. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:17 PM Flag
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Just been through this. Your DD sounds like a great candidate and so will get into some of these schools. However, it's as competitive as NYC so she's unlikely to get into them all & shouldn't set her heart on any one school. Good luck! She'll do very well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:59 PM Flag
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Thanks so much! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:03 PM Flag
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No one can say with certainly if your child will be accepted at any of those schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:18 AM Flag
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No one can say with "certainly" that you will wake up tomorrow,but your DD has a really good shot at a top boarding school. Ignore these jealous hags [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 03:46 AM Flag
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Just realistic. There's a difference between saying a child is certain to be admitted and saying they have a really good shot. I was responding to the former statement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 11:24 AM Flag
[ - ] Has anyone received a robo call this morning? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 11:53 AM Flag
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in regards to what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:00 PM Flag
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The new g&t error by Pearson. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:23 PM Flag
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No call. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:16 PM Flag
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no call either [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 01:01 PM Flag
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A couple people reported getting them last night. With only 300 calls and a new deadline of 5/15, maybe they got through the list last night. I did see that the deadline is updated this morning but our score report is unchanged. Did anyone who got a call get a revised score report/application? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 01:20 PM Flag
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not yet [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:24 PM Flag
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Our score was revised yesterday [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 05:16 PM Flag
[ - ] Pearson f-d up yet again! Prepare for another round of weekend robo-calls. 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 06:43 AM Flag
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/education/new-error-found-in-test-scoring-for-gifted-programs.html?src=recg [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 06:43 AM Flag
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Only for 300 this tine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 09:47 AM Flag
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Yes, I guess this counts as IMPROVEMENT! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:13 PM Flag
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This is the DOE line I hate from that article: “We are not reducing anyone’s percentiles,” said Erin Hughes, an Education Department spokeswoman. “No students will be disadvantaged because of Pearson’s errors.” By not recalibrating the scores that are supposed to be lower, it disadvantages the lottery pool. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 04:32 PM Flag
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Probably was true with the last round of errors as well. They admitted 6 students should've been removed from eligibility entirely. How many should've gotten a score reduction while remaining eligible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 06:24 PM Flag
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Every dc with an olsat score that was equal to or higher than NNAT score got a boost from the error [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 01:59 PM Flag
[ - ] How do we know if our child's G&T score is affected by this new round of errors? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 02:43 AM Flag
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Good question- are they resenting our scores yet again? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:44 AM Flag
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I think just for the 300 affected. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:42 AM Flag
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they will contact you, but it a very tiny part affected, around 300 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:45 AM Flag
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if you child was affected, you received a phone call earlier today. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:33 AM Flag
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How do you know this? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:34 AM Flag
[ - ] Any advice on how to get MS DD to make good grades? 19 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 02:36 AM Flag
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Pay her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:36 AM Flag
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Terrible advice but I would do this to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 10:30 PM Flag
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why doesn't she have good grades ? bad study habits/not enough studying ? too much time with friends ? particular area that she is weak at ? I think you need to figure out what is the reason and maybe get a tutor for a while [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:43 AM Flag
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What do the child's teachers say? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:51 AM Flag
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She made good grades in lower school, but her transition to MS has been slightly rough with mostly B-s, the workload at her school increases a lot in MS. Her teachers just say that her greatest weaknesses are quizzes and tests, which I'm assuming is because she waits until the last minute to study. We have tutors for math and history which hasn't brought her math grade up much and her history grade from a C+ to a B-. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:49 AM Flag
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unfortunately it seems that you need to teach her study habits even if that means quizzing her along the way to make sure things are not left to the last minute. That's what my mom did and I had straight As throughout MS and HS. Graduated summa cum laude from college. I am not that smart, but I studied hard. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:59 AM Flag
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Child needs to review what happened in each class as part of homework every day. A middle school child should not be using phone after school nor should she be using social media. How is her note taking? Work on this if necessary. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:00 AM Flag
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Too late, if she isn't self motivated. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:52 AM Flag
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Then how do you instill self motivation in younger children? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:50 AM Flag
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For myself, and others who I have seen become successful, it seems like we all prided ourselves on being smart and wanted to do well. Parents weren't even involved [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:01 AM Flag
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Or who communicated their expectations subtly. Mine were never involved, but I got the message that failure was never an option. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 05:46 PM Flag
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Yes and no, IMO. We had much less work as tweens and most of us really had to find the motivation later (HS). It is different now because they need to be as motivated in 7th grade as we did in 9th. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:18 PM Flag
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never too late. i know people who turned it around academically in high school, even college. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:38 AM Flag
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She has to want it, mostly because of peer pressure and not parental pressure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:43 AM Flag
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Make her study? I mean, really. No fucking phone, computer, TV until the homework is finished. Go to bed at a decent hour. Period. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:48 AM Flag
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^And yes, I have a MSer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 12:48 AM Flag
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This. And with those work habits drilled in, she will know how to study effectively and should be able to motivate herself once the serious peer competition starts in high school. -np [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:17 PM Flag
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and don't take away sports. I've seen thi ssuggested by administrators and it is short sighted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 08:52 PM Flag
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She may not know how to study, take notes or keep up. If so, you need to show her and "hold her hand" for awhile till she can do it on her own. Then, you need to tell her what your expectations are. And if she doesn't meet them, you'll take away her cellphone or her favorite sweater or whatever - have a list of things she cares about and make sure expectations and consequences are clear. She will hate you, but she'll get some decent habits. You have to keep it up till it's second nature for her. OTOH, her 6th grade grades don't matter. It's her 7th grade grades that matter the most. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 03:59 PM Flag
[ - ] Damn--just realized that the last g&t call we got went to dh's office. so we didn't get it until monday. so we won't know if we're getting a call until Monday. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 01:37 AM Flag
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no vm? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 01:32 AM Flag
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ridiculous dh doesn't know how to check it from home! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:03 AM Flag
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lol then the kid did not make g&t [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:22 AM Flag
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Try * password followed by number sign [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:01 AM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:08 AM Flag
[ - ] Here we go again....who has gotten the new robo-call? 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 12:27 AM Flag
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I have not [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:22 AM Flag
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wow really [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:28 AM Flag
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I HAVE I HAVE!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:32 AM Flag
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I HAVE I HAVE!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:32 AM Flag
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Did - was half human, half robocall [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:32 AM Flag
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what did they say? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:37 AM Flag
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New score, eligible for citywide, new deadline [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:33 AM Flag
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did they tell you if it's a 97 or a 99? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:37 AM Flag
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Yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:40 AM Flag
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Is your score report updated on SEMS? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 01:24 PM Flag
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About what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:33 AM Flag
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i did not. what is it?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:45 AM Flag
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OMG. Is this ever going to end? (Another G&T mom also waiting for placement in June). :( [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:41 AM Flag
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It would be nice to get a placement before 2014 Sigh! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:50 AM Flag
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I believe I heard they're making them over the weekend as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 01:08 AM Flag
[ - ] The DOE has not updated their website with the new info. Sems is not updated either to say applications are extended until May 17th either. Anyone have any new info? Are we getting new score reports? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.11.13, 12:10 AM Flag
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I think it was only 300 so prob only those impacted will hear a new score [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:19 AM Flag
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Its insane that we have to guess. How hard is it to keep the public informed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:24 AM Flag
[ - ] Where can you see the testing date on score report? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.10.13, 11:04 PM Flag
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you can't [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:29 PM Flag
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so how did these people know the testing date was wrong? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:19 AM Flag
[ - ] Hewitt vs Marymount? 17 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.10.13, 11:02 PM Flag
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Hewitt Hewitt Hewitt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:58 PM Flag
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Why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:59 PM Flag
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such a hot school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:59 PM Flag
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My friends kids go there and LOVE it. Some switched out of Dalton & HM for Hewitt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:01 PM Flag
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Sarcasm? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:07 PM Flag
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OR: not at all, but there are a lot of Hewitt girls that go co-ed for hs, so I'm not the end all be all [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:05 PM Flag
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I'm guessing you posted this to make fun of both schools, which is pathetic. I don't know anything about Hewitt but Marymount is a great school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:06 PM Flag
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Marymount - I liked the religious aspect, science, space is gorgeous. downside - lack of diversity (i realize this doesn't matter to some but it does to me). Hewitt - felt warm and nurturing, I liked it. Downside - it's reputation. Not sure if true or not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:38 PM Flag
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its [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:56 PM Flag
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Skirts are too short and make ups is too heavy for girls from both schools. At Hewitt, only half of the K class will remain in HS. Half of them go to other school over the years. MM has better facility, larger endowment and better lunches. They are both good schools and MM maybe marginally better. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:34 AM Flag
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It's more or less half at all of the girls schools, FYI. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:30 PM Flag
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That stat about upper school applies to nearly every private. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:52 PM Flag
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Skirts that are too short = try Spence and CSH. Makeup ? Are you kidding ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 12:17 PM Flag
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The MM high school girls I see in the park are silly and babyish. They give ss schools a bad name. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 04:54 PM Flag
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I'd probably go with Hewitt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 05:12 PM Flag
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Ditto. But would take a 2nd/3rd tier coed over either option. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.14.13, 06:48 PM Flag
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Hewitt by the slimmest of margins [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.15.13, 01:34 AM Flag
[ - ] More info on the newest G&T snafu. http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130510/new-york-city/more-scroring-errors-uncovered-for-gifted-talented-exam 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.10.13, 10:12 PM Flag
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Are you fucking kidding me!!! The deadline has been extended AGAIN!!! WTF!!!!!! This will never end this will never end this will never end. I suppose this means the date that we were to expect the lottery results will also move back? Shoot me now. The DOE should be the ones who are fired! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:19 PM Flag
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OP: I agree. The level of incompetence is astonishing-- feels like an SNL skit or something. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:49 AM Flag
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Huh? What? this is so stupid. So we'll find out like the day before school starts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:45 AM Flag
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Interesting. some posted a few days ago that she thought her DC's test scores were still wrong because they had both testing date and birthday wrong. She emailed/called the DOE but hadn't heard back yet. Everyone jumped on her calling her crazy and OTT. Guess she wasn't wrong. {From article: "...Pearson used a default test date rather than the one on students' answer sheets for roughly half the test takers..." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 01:19 AM Flag
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how can she see which testing date they used? I don't see it anywhere on any of my ds's stuff [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:04 AM Flag
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np: the poster she's talking about said she had emailed the G&T people at the DOE and requested to see her child's scoring info. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:19 AM Flag
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It was me that posted... I contacted someone within the DOE and eventually received a breakdown of the score.. According to this breakdown, I saw the dates were incorrect.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:37 AM Flag
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What was the test date? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 01:35 PM Flag
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Incorrect one was 1/21 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 02:21 AM Flag
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Was your test date earlier or later? did score go up with this latest error-fix? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 02:44 AM Flag
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score went up... we tested on jan 13.. for whichever reason, they changed my DCs age bracket from 0-2 months to 3-5 months.. even though with either test date he was still 0-2 months.. not sure how that worked [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 01:46 PM Flag
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np: How do we know that this error occurred with only one test date? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.13.13, 06:02 PM Flag
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kudos to you. i remember everyone on here telling you to chill about it, but you were right to pursue it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 07:56 PM Flag
[ - ] G&T: How could Pearson not be fired after all their ridiculous errors? A high school student could do a better job of quality control. And this is the same company grading state exams, teacher exams, etc? 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.10.13, 09:57 PM Flag
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Not grading state exams, no. Teachers do that. (Computers scan the bubbled answers.) But they are responsible for compiling the scores and recording them and distributing them, etc. And they were responsible for the crappy rubrics the teachers used to grade the exams. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 09:55 PM Flag
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maybe the DOE was hoping that they wouldn't get caught. DOE really doesn't want to place more children than it has to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:04 PM Flag
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Who's to say there aren't another 10 mistakes? Pearson is only admitting to them After enough parents complain to the DOE. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:06 PM Flag
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also - who's to say that there weren't major errors in previous years too? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:11 PM Flag
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NP: That's what I am thinking too. I bet there were many errors that were never uncovered. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:22 AM Flag
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walcott sounds genuinely pissed. i doubt that is the case. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 10:01 PM Flag
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Walcott is genuinely pissed because of the PR disaster. Now he's going to have to field calls from City Council members and other politicians about this fuck up, when he would rather be schmoozing with Eva Moskowitz. Despite being pissed about this, Walcott does not give a rat's ass about G&T. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 03:22 AM Flag
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g&t is a means to an end for him: a way to prop up schools that serve the dcs who are his priority. i still maintain he wasn't aware of any issue and looking the other way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 11:44 AM Flag
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G&T is not a prop for failing schools. This is such an outdated mentality. Maybe G&T programs once had that element in them, but these days, that's just not the case. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:23 PM Flag
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not failing schools maybe but ones that are struggling with high percentage of disadvantaged dcs. that hasn't changed and it never will. you think they put g&ts in the rich zones? no. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 08:59 PM Flag
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That is true, but the rich zone schools have no space. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 09:41 PM Flag
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and no need. the rich gen eds are as good as g&ts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.12.13, 04:43 PM Flag
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do you think the DOE was aware of all of these mistakes? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.10.13, 11:05 PM Flag
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At this point, nothing would surprise me! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 12:13 AM Flag
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I can't believe it, perfect example of why privatization is a scam. Costs more, quality is worse, and its going to cost even MORE now that they have to fix Pearson's screwups. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 02:13 PM Flag
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So true. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.11.13, 05:11 PM Flag
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