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[ - ] PS 290 and PS 158 parents: how how many kids per class in K? How many in 1st, 2nd 3rd grade? Thank you 54 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 07:31 PM Flag
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Didn't you just ask this? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:26 PM Flag
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Yes this is a repost on the school board. Are you the post police? Am I under arrest? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:32 PM Flag
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You want people to help you? With this attitude? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:34 PM Flag
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np: honestly I think OP is just being sarcastic. You on the other hand have issues. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:37 PM Flag
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nnp: Hi, OP. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:38 PM Flag
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not OP - I am the OR below who wrote about class size being overrated [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:37 PM Flag
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Actually I am the person who used the word overated [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:39 PM Flag
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This post is getting weirder and weirder [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:42 PM Flag
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Guilty. Not tolerant of rude sarcastic people [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:38 PM Flag
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OR here - what I rude or sarcastic? The only person rude or sarcastic on this thread is you, OP. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:39 PM Flag
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*was what I said rude or sarcastic? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:40 PM Flag
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Wait. If you aren't tolerant of sarcastic people, OP - why did you say you were just guilty of being sarcastic? Hate your own kind? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:42 PM Flag
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I am OP - For your information, other than the first reponse I have not written anything else on this post. People are insane today. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:44 PM Flag
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Sure, OP. Sure. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:46 PM Flag
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Yes, yes I do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:38 PM Flag
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LOL OR, what are you doing, going back and forth between filters? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:33 PM Flag
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I must not have filters set up. All I know is this same exact question is also on page 2 for me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:38 PM Flag
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Yes, as I said I reposted on the school board because usually people complain if they see school posts in the general board. I guess I can't win. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:36 PM Flag
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Not with such a nasty attitude. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:38 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:40 PM Flag
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Class size is overated [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:36 PM Flag
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+1. The makeup/balance of the class is more important, and you can't tell that until you get there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:34 PM Flag
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Not OP, but I disagree. In my personal experience, it is impossible for a teacher (even with part time support) to focus appropriately on a class of 30 or more. Inevitably the worst and the best will take up all of her time and the average students will be largely ignored. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:34 PM Flag
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Teacher [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:42 PM Flag
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General Topics 05.14.13, 07:40 PM Flag
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ITA with this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:40 PM Flag
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Research is pretty clear: teacher matters, not size [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:53 PM Flag
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Most research I've read states class sizes of less than 15 are best for elementary students. No teaching assistants. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:16 PM Flag
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np. And how do these studies control for teacher quality? Do you have any personal experience with this at all? 15 students in a 5th grade class would be quite stifling, I would imagine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:15 PM Flag
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What is your personal experience? Mine contradicts this. I've seen classes of 20 out of control with a few rowdy kids and a teacher who couldn't handle it, and I've seen classes of 33-35 that are orderly and get a ton done. Teachers override class size. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:57 PM Flag
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I went to public school (30+ kids) and was a very good student. I got a fair amount of attention from teachers throughout (extra work, small groups with the teacher for advanced curriculum etc). So did my sister. The average kids were pretty much ignored. Granted, a sample of two. But as I said, this is my personal experience. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 05:08 PM Flag
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the best never get attention. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:59 PM Flag
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I think K is around 20-25 at each, but it increases in 1st grade. Second hand info though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:38 PM Flag
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i think this is right, but by 4th grade, it's up at 30 or so [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:40 PM Flag
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35 in our class [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:40 PM Flag
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PS 290? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:39 PM Flag
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Trinity 20-22 kids in K. St Ann's 20 kids in K. Horace Mann 20-25 kids in K. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:45 PM Flag
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In independent schools, kids usually spend about half the day in groups of one half the class size or smaller, each with a teacher. My child had about ten teachers over a week. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:48 PM Flag
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You are insufferable - only special needs children require this much attention in school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:58 PM Flag
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That was my thought - both of my children were looking to get out of their pre-school class of 10 kids. Can't imagine having that again in elementary school. Rather 20-25 and two teachers than 8-10 kids and one teacher. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:23 PM Flag
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Why would she be insufferable? She is only offering additional information to complete the post above. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:01 PM Flag
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np: this breakdown is only in the earliest grades, and really reflects the wide (and normal) development range for kids that age. At our dc's school, reading groups were 3-6 kids in k-3, because of the different levels of the kids. They all eventually get to the same place, and by grade 4 they are doing reading as an entire homeroom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 10:10 PM Flag
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Wow she didn't ask about these schools but since you went there- privates have to sell you something for your 30k [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:56 PM Flag
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You mean $40K, plus extras, so more like $45,000. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:23 PM Flag
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Horace Mann for K has 20 kids and 2 teachers or 14 kids and 2 teachers (the 2 smaller classes are in the Manhattan location, and the bigger ones are in Riverdale with one bigger class in Manhattan as well). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:53 PM Flag
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Horace Mann does not have K in NYC - only pre-school. K is in Riverdale campus. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 09:26 PM Flag
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They also have a small K at the UES location - the pre-school building that is all run down. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 09:27 PM Flag
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Horace mann has 5 K classes (three in UES and 2 in riverdale) class sizes vary. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 04:50 PM Flag
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Wrong -- they have 3Ks in Manhattan (in the Nursery Years building) and 2 in Riverdale. Signed, HM Parent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 06:44 PM Flag
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have friends at both. ps 290 fills to max of 25 in K and always has K wait list. Friends dc at ps158 had 20 kids in K class [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:41 PM Flag
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not significant enough to make a difference. i would choose 290. np. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:41 PM Flag
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both good schools. 158 has better facilities and less over crowded. 290 is a very small zone and very hard to move to intentionally [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 12:02 AM Flag
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NP: Class size grows in upper grades at 158. I think the 4th and 5th grade classes are 30+, so no different than 290. The principal at 158 is tough and test-obsessed, much prefer the atmosphere and approach at 290. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:53 PM Flag
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np I heard the same from a friend at 158. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 05:02 PM Flag
[ - ] Why am I suddenly getting unsolicited emails from Erica Reid (LA Reid's wife) with links to her blog "Erica Reid Loves Kids"? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 06:46 PM Flag
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email her back "I hate kids." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:54 PM Flag
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LOL I wonder UB sells our emails? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:48 PM Flag
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Who is she? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:54 PM Flag
[ - ] Q for Saint Ann's parents: we're applying for K this fall. the website states that they have 60 3-4 preschools kids. i'm told by PSD that they add 1 class at K and another at 1st. According to the website, they add at middle/high point as well. their HS graduating class size = 75-80. now, how many do they add at K and 1st? PSD says 25 at K and 25 at 1st and i don't think the numbers add up. Also, do they give homework at K and lower grades? (I know about the no grade system.) TIA. 57 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 05:56 PM Flag
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my PSD told us the same story. and added that they only take 3-4 unconnected DC for K. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:00 PM Flag
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This is true. We were waitlisted this year, and the school, along with PSD, begged us to try again next year. We're going to Packer, which was our first choice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:03 PM Flag
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^^^I didn't mean to say "begged", they asked. Begged is way over the top and sounds awful! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:04 PM Flag
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understood. from what our PSD told us, if you get WL, apply again for 1st. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:11 PM Flag
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but you have to apply for K and then 1st. no chance if you only apply for 1st. true? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:12 PM Flag
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I don't know anyone who was rejected from SA. We and many friends applied. All WL, no reject. I think they WL WAY more than they could truly be interested in. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:46 PM Flag
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i know 5 rejects from SA. all manhathan families. 3 downtown, 1 UWS, 1 UES. they all placed at TT. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:50 PM Flag
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does anyone know any brooklyn families who gets the rejection letter from SA? i know 2 but not from last year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:54 PM Flag
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well, unless you see the WL letter, don't believe what everyone tells you. often people lie about getting WL when they get RJ. this happens at all TT privates. my BF lied to my face about getting WL from my DC's school, not SA. the RJ letter was sitting on their dining table. my SIL lied to our family about getting WL at SA. my brother told us that they were RJed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:58 PM Flag
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Obviously possible, but I doubt it because they shared that they were rejected at other places. Maybe it's just a fluke that we were all WL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:54 PM Flag
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when you say "everyone gets WL from SA" what do you expect the other family to reply? if they say that they got RJ from SA, then they run the risk of being labeled the only RJ from SA. it's hard to admit RJ when everyone else is yelling WLs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 10:08 PM Flag
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sad but true. i guess it's just to save face. although who remembers where other people's DCs get admitted/waitlisted/rejected. i don't even remember all the schools where my BFF's DCs applied to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:04 PM Flag
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we're looking into SA and Packer. could i ask you why Packer was your FC? thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:40 PM Flag
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unconnected DC got in for K (coming fall). don't know a single SA parent/teacher so don't if that's true - truly unconnected. PSD has never placed anyone at SA so has not been a reliable source of info. will be able to tell you if this is true once we start in the fall. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:10 PM Flag
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Which preschool? How did you stand out during the application process? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:07 PM Flag
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^^don't know^^ naming preschool would out us. we didn't. DC must have but we have no idea if there was anything SA specific. DC did well with other schools as well - accepts and WL only, no rejection. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:35 PM Flag
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the initial 60 sounds like 2 age groups with 2 classes of 15 in each. So 30 kids, then they add one class which could mean 25 new kids assuming a few don't stay from pre-school, or it could mean adding 20. So 50 kids in K. Then 75 in First. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:06 PM Flag
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SA parent here. Approx. 60 spots (3 classes of 20) in K. 30 spots come from the two preschool classes of 15 each. So you have around 30 spots for K. Add another class of 20 in 1st. 80 in each SA class (4 classes of 80) from 1st through 12th. Actual number differs a bit from year to year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:16 PM Flag
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thank you! could you debunk the "only 3-4 unconnected DC" myth? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:33 PM Flag
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Honestly, there are a lot of sibs, legacies and teacher's kids--but there are definitely more than 3-4 spots for unconnected DCs. Do apply if you're interested in the school. We've loved it so far. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:39 PM Flag
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we'll definitely apply. our PSD is not optimistic (b/c not a single DC made it from our preschool in last few years) and wants us to consider other brooklyn schools as well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:48 PM Flag
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Search your network for anyone from the school who could advocate for you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:49 PM Flag
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np: that makes you "connected"!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:46 PM Flag
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would current parents help? don't know how active they are in PTA cicle. from what i understand, SA is not a school that wants active parental involvement. how about alums? a few college friends who're in the city and know DC. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:53 PM Flag
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There is no PTA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:57 PM Flag
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seriously? do parents ever volunteer or otherwise help out the admin/teachers? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:59 PM Flag
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Sometimes, but there is no obligation. You can speak to your child's teacher at any point. But one of the past aspects of the school is that it focuses on the needs of the students, not the paranoia of the parents. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:01 PM Flag
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^Sorry, best aspects [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:05 PM Flag
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sounds beautiful. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:10 PM Flag
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Completely discouraged. They don't want "help." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:49 PM Flag
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a great selling point for DH. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:02 PM Flag
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Us too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:08 PM Flag
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Honestly, probably not 3-4, but no more than 7-8 in K. No more than that in 1st. I think that in my dc's class there were no more than 6-7 unconnected new kids coming into K, and as far as I can tell, most of the kids coming into 1st were also sib and alum kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:48 PM Flag
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OP: thanks for clarifying that! why can't the website spell it out like this?! do they give HK to K/1? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:42 PM Flag
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HK? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:57 PM Flag
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OP: sorry. homework. meant to say HW. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:09 PM Flag
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Very little, if any. Idea is to let kid be a kid, all the while encouraging a love of learning. HW gets heavier beginning in 4th. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:13 PM Flag
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i'd think the 30 who come from preschool would be more sib/leg/connected and the more of new 30 would be new families. is this naive of me? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:44 PM Flag
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Yes, the preschool kids are more sib/leg/connected. But there are a few unconnected kids too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:46 PM Flag
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IME the unconnected preschool kids are celeb kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:47 PM Flag
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Nope. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:53 PM Flag
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Are there a lot of celeb kids? My son is in 1st grade and I cannot think of any. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:09 PM Flag
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Yes. A ton of Bklyn/downtown actors' kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:07 PM Flag
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^^^ I could personally name 5 dc whose parents are very famous actors. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:09 PM Flag
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Me too. Doesn't mean they are unconnected. Many unconnected not-famous families too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:18 PM Flag
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not all from the same family, right? how many actor parents in your DC's class? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:23 PM Flag
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Five kids from different families that I am thinking of; in several cases both parents are celebs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:55 PM Flag
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What year? Are they at the school a lot? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:09 PM Flag
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jennifer connelly? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 09:03 PM Flag
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maggie gyllenhaal. not a SA parent but she has mentioned SA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 09:37 PM Flag
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Her older kid goes to SA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 09:37 PM Flag
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thought dalton got more actors' kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:24 PM Flag
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Only one actor that I can think of at Dalton. -Dalton parent [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:54 PM Flag
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Agreed from another parent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:13 PM Flag
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You're joking. That class is full of celeb kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:57 PM Flag
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Speaks well of you that you haven't noticed, though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:58 PM Flag
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No. The 30 coming from preschool may be mostly connected, but not all of them, and same with the kids coming into K. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:51 PM Flag
[ - ] What are your kindergarteners' homework assignments? 57 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 04:50 PM Flag
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My DS is asked to write about problems and solutions, and character traits after reading a book. His math assignments are addition and substration of single digits. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:51 PM Flag
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which school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:00 PM Flag
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Gen Ed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:56 PM Flag
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which one? my ds in gen ed k does not get any homework. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:09 PM Flag
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DC has to do simple math problems as well but for reading he only has to do character traits. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:16 PM Flag
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I like that writing about problems and solutions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 09:39 PM Flag
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Various drawings, show and tells to prepare, and photo collages/etc. spread out through the school year to be done with parents' help (total of about 5). Private school, obviously. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:05 PM Flag
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^^^ and fwiw, even that was a big hassle requiring a lot of cajoling and threatening. I can't imagine dc having hw every day in K. Seems miserable for all involved. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:06 PM Flag
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weird they don't require certain amount of daily reading, most TT privates do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:11 PM Flag
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I guess they do "strongly suggest" reading every night. We have done that every night since age 2 anyway, so that doesn't seem like homework to me! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:11 PM Flag
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^^^ and yes, tt private. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:17 PM Flag
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same here, it's hw for us as it's not optional. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:26 PM Flag
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Do they assign the books or check that you have done it? Our school tells us to read and I would do it regardless, but they certainly don't keep tabs on whether we do it or not, so I see it as a suggestion rather than an assignment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:33 PM Flag
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yes, they are great at selecting the best books. we consider it part of their added value. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:48 PM Flag
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IMO the best book to read at age 5 is the one your dc happens to be the most interested in at that very moment. -np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:48 PM Flag
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LOL what a lazy ass parent! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:34 AM Flag
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Really? You think shoving whatever you're interested down a 5 yo's throat is a way to encourage a love of reading (and encourage them to actually read for pleasure themselves)? Different strokes, I guess. Whatever my 5yo wants me to read, I read! Sure, I offer suggestions, but he picks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 02:31 AM Flag
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OP: They are required to read a book everyday. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:22 PM Flag
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Obviously? Sorry - not obvious, we did this in gen ed public. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 09:39 PM Flag
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30' daily reading [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:59 PM Flag
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This is all it should be. Hate homework before middle school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:08 PM Flag
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think there's 15'-20' hw from 2nd grade on. we believe in hw and thanks god the school does too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:10 PM Flag
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np. ITA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:01 PM Flag
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what is 30'? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:10 PM Flag
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30 minutes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:10 PM Flag
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They've slacked off this month thankfully. Used to be 3 assignments a night for 4 days , all due on Friday. Book reports, writing assignments, sentences etc. I hated it. Now he just has to do a book reports with problems and solutions and two math worksheets. Can't wait for summer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:06 PM Flag
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K hw was too much for you? really? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:15 PM Flag
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Any hw before kids can reasonably be expected to do it themselves is too much, IMO. -np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:19 PM Flag
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agree, they should be done on their own aside from the reading. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:24 PM Flag
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OR - This is how I feel. If it isn't something he can handle by himself then it's too much, with very little pay off. Plus it takes away from family time and me getting a chance to teach him something I'd like. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:22 PM Flag
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how much daily time are we talking about? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:30 PM Flag
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1/2 hr, so I get home at 6:30, we start homework @ 7:00, then dinner and then it's time to start bedtime routine. On nights when he doesn't have homework, he cooks dinner with me, helps with the laundry, helps with the garden, or helps dh "fix" something. I just don't feel it's useful at this stage. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:30 PM Flag
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what about doing hw during bedtime? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:49 PM Flag
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He's too tired by that time. I don't want him to half-ass it. Handwriting neatness, capitalization and punctuation are all going to suffer at 8:00. If he's going to do it I want him to do it correctly otherwise there's no benefit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:06 PM Flag
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My dc get a second wind after dinner/bath. That's the best time for hw and music practice in my house. -np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 09:28 PM Flag
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ITA. It's especially unreasonable (and detrimental) for families where both parents work. IMO, Kindergarteners should really be in bed by 7:30 or so, and that doesn't seem possible if parents have to cram in homework and dinner after they return from work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:35 PM Flag
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Sure, i'm a SAHM, so have no problem with it. But i imagine it being a problem if time were so scarse. I'm not working mainly because of the time poverty we would have and kids benefit from spending time with them. We are saving enough on 1 income thanks to saving on housing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:57 PM Flag
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School means homework. Get over it. Also - the homework should not involve you, it should involve your kid only. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:01 PM Flag
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GL with that if you have a five year old. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:49 PM Flag
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I do have a 5 year old, actually [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:28 PM Flag
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its so dumb to give hw to kids who can't do their own homework. And really intrusive on family life as it requires an adult to sit there and do it with the kid to the detriment of whatever else that adult has to do (tend to other children, prepare meals, do work, household chores, etc). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 08:40 PM Flag
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DC went to a preschool with similar homework requirements in the pre-k year. Yes, pre-k - they went going through the K curriculum. It was 30 minutes a day (reading + math) plus a weekend assignment, and DCs all handled it well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:00 PM Flag
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She is joking. No K students write sentences or do book reports. Lighten up folks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:57 PM Flag
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None, and the school (through 8th grade) never gives homework (besides reading for an hour a day starting in first grade). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:12 PM Flag
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What school? That is seriously odd! The progressives we looked at all seemed to start w/ homework in 2nd or 3rd grade. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:20 PM Flag
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Montessori. I love it. No grades either. The graduating kids do really well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:16 PM Flag
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which montessori? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:25 PM Flag
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it's in chicago, a small one in the suburbs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:27 PM Flag
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nice! i thought you were in Manhattan, there's a Montessori i visited which i LOVED. thought it might be the same one. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:57 PM Flag
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np. I'm jealous! I wish we had school options like this in NYC. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:02 PM Flag
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hmmm. doesn't saint ann's boasts no grades even in HS and no busy HM? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:37 PM Flag
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also heard no grades for saint ann's. don't know about HW. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:42 PM Flag
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Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it. Cheap too! I would guess other montessori schools might also skip homework, though it depends whether they are true montessori. This one claims to be very strictly montessori, and I think the lack of homework and grade thing is part of that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:47 PM Flag
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Math show and write addition sentences, vocabulary and light science descriptions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:20 PM Flag
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just reading. and going over site words. 2 books that he reads, 1 book that I read to him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:09 PM Flag
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Daily reading, that's it! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:33 PM Flag
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None, it's a progressive private. Homework starts in 3d grade, although the kids are expected to read and be read to daily. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:13 PM Flag
[ - ] Which private accepts all the most onboxious parents? We applied to 10 schools and went to countless events - meeting many of the same parents over and over and over. We could quickly recognize the super competitive/rude ones (you know, with the crazy glint in their eyes). The school our DD will be attending had a new parent event recently and I was happy to recognize many of the nicest and low key parents I had seen during the aplication process - but none of the crazy/obnoxious ones. I wonder if they all ended up in the same school! 50 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 03:33 PM Flag
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^^^ obnoxious (or maybe onboxious is even worse?) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:34 PM Flag
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Good question! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:40 PM Flag
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I think this is a great question. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:54 PM Flag
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Dalton parents tend to be the rather lofty type. Marymount parents always seem to come across as defensive and insecure about their school. Very frustrated. As for Buckley, I think rich and dumb best describe the general demo there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.16.13, 12:42 PM Flag
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They are all at Dalton and Spence. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:34 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:38 PM Flag
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If obnoxious = crazy helicopter neurotic tiger parents, than they are rampant at Hunter, Collegiate, and Brearley. If you mean spoiled, entitled, nasty new money, then it's Horace Mann and Dalton. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.17.13, 11:57 PM Flag
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"Greg, what is the worst fraternity on campus?" "It's difficult to say, sir, they're all outstanding in their own way." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:44 PM Flag
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That is a brilliant citation [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:50 PM Flag
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Great movie. "We're in college - we can do what we want!!!" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:20 PM Flag
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Wikipedia should have that information. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:40 PM Flag
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so where did you end up? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:46 PM Flag
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All except your DD's school. Happy now? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:41 PM Flag
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Let us know where you you decide to send your children so that you can be avoided. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:50 PM Flag
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I'm already experiencing this on Spring Tours. Terrifying. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:54 PM Flag
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Public is Your Friend. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:14 PM Flag
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I'm at a well regarded public and there are plenty of obnoxious parents at our school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:58 PM Flag
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DD having been in both, private parents are much scarier IME. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 11:45 AM Flag
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I know what you mean. By and large people seemed pretty normal but we did meet quite a few interesting types. The mean girl moms, the crazy-eyed competitive types, the ones who looked at all the other kids with killer eyes... Not to mention those who fawn over the DoA, or ask stupid or rude questions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:14 PM Flag
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np. Quite a few ended up in our school unfortunately. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:20 PM Flag
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Marymount? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 10:31 PM Flag
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the absolute worse! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:25 AM Flag
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A school where calling your dad father is promoted. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:15 PM Flag
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Agree about MM. The girls are a reflection of the crazy parents, and it can be scary [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 12:16 PM Flag
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You know, this absolute obsession with bashing Marymount is ridiculous. I suppose this is only one crazy person, but really? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:31 PM Flag
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No, one of the tree TT SS. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:24 PM Flag
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^^^ three [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:38 PM Flag
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i think it depends on the groups on your tours. In our school the craziest, most annoying parents at our school ended up at Marymount and Collegiate. Perhaps they behaved well at their admissions events... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 10:36 PM Flag
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Marymount and Buckley [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:30 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:11 PM Flag
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It's funny, I've been wondering the same thing about one family I saw on many of our tours (ss girls). Would love to know where they ended up! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 02:38 AM Flag
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What an asinine post. Surprise - they are all at YOUR school and you are one of them... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 02:47 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:30 PM Flag
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The CSH moms are something to see. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 11:46 AM Flag
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Marymount [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 12:33 PM Flag
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MM has been mentioned 3 times, why? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 12:51 PM Flag
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In general there is a huge anti-Catholic sentiment on UB. However, this goes beyond it. I think there is one person here who is virulently against Marymount for whatever reason and has been posting really crazy things for a couple of weeks now. I personally love MM and hope my DD gets in next fall. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:35 PM Flag
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What on earth are you talking about! HM is mostly Jewish and there are plenty of people who rage against the pressure cooker bullshit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 09:00 PM Flag
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A huge proportion of MM parents are not Catholic (let's say not Christian). Hence pretty much excluded from schools like MM, CSH, St. D. etc. So they bash these schools, but they have not even toured them in the first place. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:38 PM Flag
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I'd say some of the ss schools like Browning and Marymount are the worse. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:10 PM Flag
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OMG-Browning is known for having the most normal families of all ss. People just stirring the pot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.16.13, 02:30 AM Flag
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The most aggressive, uptight mothers at our preschool have DDs at Brearley. The MM families I know (only a few) are all lovely. (I'm a public school parent, so no horse in this race.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:44 PM Flag
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Have to agree with other posters - Marymount has the most full of shit parents of any school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 02:07 PM Flag
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Thank you for this classy and well informed comment - signed MM parent [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:36 PM Flag
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Agree re Marymount. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 09:01 PM Flag
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dalton [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 09:58 PM Flag
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Fat Angry Mom here. I really hate those skinny moms at Brick. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 10:01 PM Flag
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Buckley, Spence, Dalton, Horace Mann [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 10:06 PM Flag
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Dalton parents tend to be the rather lofty type. Marymount parents always seem to come across as defensive and insecure about their school. Very frustrated. As for Buckley, I think rich and dumb best describe the general demo there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.16.13, 12:43 PM Flag
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Rather lofty? lol. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.17.13, 11:59 PM Flag
[ - ] I do realize that there is not much to say about schools at this time of year but most of the school posts over the past few weeks have been either mean, ill informed or just plain dumb. Who's on this board? Have all the normal people dropped it? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 03:21 PM Flag
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I'm waiting for public middle school placement letter. Far from over for me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:08 PM Flag
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Same here--on pins and needles. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:35 PM Flag
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pretty sure it's been discovered by some white Christian identity groups who want to spout racist nonsense AND a 'roid raging mom who has body issues. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:34 PM Flag
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Yabba Dabba Doo!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:45 PM Flag
[ - ] Are the privates saner/less demanding places to send your dcs to school? We're at a very good gen ed PS and it feels like a pressure cooker at times. I really can't afford private, but always wonder if it's just an all around more mellow experience for kids. Please no flaming. I really no very little about privates in NYC 31 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 12:37 PM Flag
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{[ know [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:40 PM Flag
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why would you think that places that put children and families through the ringer to be admitted, where parents are hyper competitive New Yorkers would be mellower and saner? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:45 PM Flag
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it just seems that once they're in, the privates are a little more relaxed. do private school kids take the ELA's? again, no flaming, i really don't know. my dc's school makes everyone's lives miserable every year over these tests, on top of the crazy amounts of hw already assigned. just curious if the privates have similar set ups [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:13 PM Flag
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Most DCs in private schools do take the ELAs, but no one makes much of a fuss about them. The school's funding and status doesn't correlate to the exam results - they are mostly for internal benchmarking purposes and to teach the DCs how to take a standardized test. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:48 PM Flag
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np--This is not correct, unless by private you mean parochial. Most NYC independent schools do not have kids take the ELA. Many do give another test, the CTP4, from 3rd grade on though. This is a low-stakes assessment of child and school and should not be prepared for. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:29 PM Flag
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nnp. Exactly. I've never heard of any private school (non-parochial) that administers the ELA to its students. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:18 PM Flag
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Most private schools start very slowly. The public schools are much more academic from the start. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:47 PM Flag
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I think that it depends on the school. I think that teachers in public feel more pressure to get their kids to meet grade level standard [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:55 PM Flag
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my ds's private is insanely competitive. boys have enormous pressure to do incredibly well on every test and in every class. everyone knows who gets what and where they stand. i can't compare it to public but i would not say to pick private for a mellow life [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:57 PM Flag
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Name the school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:12 PM Flag
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Hmm, good to know. That sounds like my dc's public. And it started very young. By K, they were piling on the HW [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:14 PM Flag
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Can you specify what you mean by "piling on the homework" in K? No flaming, I just want to see how it compares to DD's current private HW load [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 02:29 PM Flag
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Yes, my kindergarten dc has about 4-5 pages of homework to do when he gets home during the week plus recommended reading of 10-20 minutes every night (for which he needs to fill out a sheet), and about 8 to 10 pages over a weekend plus reading. He is already in an extended academic day (the way the school works) so this means that he is not getting home til about 6. It is a marathon every night to fit in dinner, HW, bath and bedtime rituals-- he has almost no down time during the week. And he's 5. Personally, I think it's a bit much. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:36 PM Flag
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Hmm, good to know. That sounds like my dc's public. And it started very young. By K, they were piling on the HW [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:15 PM Flag
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this has got to be st b's [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:57 PM Flag
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Depends on the school: some are known as rigorous, and some are for less-academic kids. Just like public. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:06 PM Flag
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Some are, some are not. It's that simple. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:13 PM Flag
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By 3rd grade there is virtually no similarity between, say, HM/Trinty, and Dwight/BWL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 02:25 PM Flag
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There is virtually no truth to that statement. Actually, there is no truth period to that statement, virtual or real. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:34 PM Flag
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NP Actually, it's very accurate. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:14 PM Flag
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Horace Mann and Trinity very similar to Dwight and BWL. That is about the furthest thing from reality ever posted on UB - and that says a lot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:48 PM Flag
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I did not mean it literally. Of course there are classes and teachers and buildings! But I went to HM/Trinity (being cagey about which, but suffice it to say that I didn't have a great experience) and my stepkid goes to BWL. In terms of what OP is inquiring about -- pressure, demands, academic rigor -- they are as similar as Princeton and Montclair College. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:51 PM Flag
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Princeton and Montclair College are similar?! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:13 PM Flag
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reading comprehension issue here. clearly you didn't go to HM/T. night and day, my dear. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:02 PM Flag
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go to Rudolph Steiner [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:44 PM Flag
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amen! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:23 PM Flag
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When our dcs were in K through 3rd grade at a "tt" ongoing, they had a much easier time of it than their friends who were in public schools. Our dc had a lot more time for playdates, weekend activities like museums and trips out of the city, extracurricular classes, reading and relaxing, etc. In 3rd grade was where we began to see a shift, and our dcs' workload began to catch up with their friends' in public. By 5th grade our kids were working harder than their friends in public, and the content of the material being learned in most subjects was years ahead of their public school friends. Now our oldest is in high school and the trend still holds, except for her friends who ended up at selective publics like Stuy or Hunter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:08 PM Flag
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This is exactly our experience as well, with one child at a mid tier school and one at a TT school. Oldest is in 9th grade. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:25 PM Flag
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might just be your dc. we're at a top gen ed and dc is doing well. he's challenged but just enough. agree with other posters that private is less academic in the early years but then ratchets up. if dc can't handle it now there aren't a whole lot of options in the long term unless you look into some of the downtown progressives. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:48 PM Flag
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'handle it"? oh my, what a strange comment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:32 PM Flag
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The least competitive private is BWL. They will not be piling on the homework nor, pushing your child to do much. However, since it is not an academic school, exmissions tend to be inferior when compared with the other privates. You cannot have it both ways. If you are looking or a lax school, your child will suffer the consequences. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.20.13, 01:03 AM Flag
[ - ] Has anyone had any direct experience with applying to privates for middle school after attending public elementary school? I'd like to go the private route, but it would be a real stretch financially for Kindergarten. Could be more of a possibility for us down the line. So, we'd likely be doing elementary school at our local zoned school PS9. I'm wondering what success people have had applying to privates at the middle school entry point. Any experiences with this? Thanks. 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 11:50 AM Flag
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It was very easy. My DDs got accepted to all schools we applied to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:47 AM Flag
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Yes - we did this last year. A bunch of other families did as well. If you child does well at your local public school, you should have no problem getting acceptances. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:54 AM Flag
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What do you consider doing "well?" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:57 PM Flag
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At grade level in all subjects, above grade level in 1 or 2 subjects [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:00 PM Flag
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We stayed in public, but I know that about a quarter of the kids in PS290 and PS6 went to private middle school: the guidance counselors are willing to help and the school doesn't act as though there's anything right or wrong with it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:20 PM Flag
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PS24 in Riverdale regularly sends around 1/2 dozen kids to HM, usually diversity and/or SoH alums. Fieldston and RC are for some reason reluctant to take more than 1-2. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 04:35 PM Flag
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And PS6. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 07:37 PM Flag
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Your DC needs to be a top student, and do well on the ISEEs if you want to aim for the top schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 04:38 PM Flag
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that's what we did. happy where we are, and looking for high schools (both private and public) next year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 04:40 PM Flag
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Through the years PS 183 has sent students to Friends, Fieldston, UNIS, NBS, Poly Prep, Dalton, etc., but the vast majority of DC continue in public--lucky to have great public MS in D2. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 05:16 PM Flag
[ - ] Is HM highly competitive at HS? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 11:44 AM Flag
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I heard that HM culture about to be the best in something as sports, music, math... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:53 AM Flag
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This is true at any school where the culture prizes admission to top colleges, whether it is HM, Trinity, Dalton, or Saint Anns. Better to be an A+ at one academic subject and one extracurricular than to be an A- at a lot of things. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:46 PM Flag
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Very athletic [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:03 PM Flag
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No, it's a walk in the park. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:13 PM Flag
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Lots of stoners... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:44 PM Flag
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Who go to top colleges. That's my kind of stoner! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 02:20 PM Flag
[ - ] Dd scored well on hunter but didn't make the cut for k. Dd didn't do well on g&t test for k and 1st grade. Is there hope for G&t? 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 04:47 AM Flag
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Um, no. How could there be? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:49 AM Flag
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Cunter [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:49 AM Flag
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It was a fair question. You just told us she didn't do well on the tests. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:03 AM Flag
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No, what school is she attending? Make sure she does well on state tests in 4th [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 04:56 AM Flag
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What kind of tests are those? Sorry,newbie here [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:04 AM Flag
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Does your child attend public school in NYC? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:05 AM Flag
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Yep [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:07 AM Flag
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What grade? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:10 AM Flag
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Not likely. Move to good zoned school, or more likely burbs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 10:53 AM Flag
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Move to a good gen ed school. Even with a 95% plus on the G&T test you would probably not get in (more so given the shitshow the whole G&T has become). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:15 PM Flag
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You just said it outloud- she didn't make hunter cut and she didn't score well on g&t- she is not g&t material. Move on [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 02:17 PM Flag
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i would move on at this point and focus on ms. how are dc's grades? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:42 PM Flag
[ - ] What happened to the ability to sort on UB? I haven't been on UB in a few years and I'm trying to look at a particular school - how do I see the most recent posts? Thanks 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.14.13, 02:48 AM Flag
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The sorting function on this site is nonexistent. It's terrible. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:04 AM Flag
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GL!!! The search function is a mess!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:00 AM Flag
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there was a work around....maybe better to use google, but type in urbanbaby at the same time? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:04 AM Flag
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Ub sucks for that [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:10 AM Flag
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UB is only good if you are looking for factual and accurate information. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:19 PM Flag
[ - ] Can you just go to the DOE and request to speak to someone in the assessment office? Will they turn me away. I'm so sick of getting the run around via phone/email? Has anyone ever just taken the trip over there? Thanks! 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.13.13, 10:15 PM Flag
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Do you want an observation of your child? For what needs? It usually take six months or more to get it all done and dusted. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:22 PM Flag
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LOL no I just want CLEAR straight answers on my child's g&t exam. It seems so much easier to talk to someone in person. I hate these ticket #'s, and dead end responses. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:38 PM Flag
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give it up. the whole thing is a crapshoot. stop yelling "no fair!" and get on with your life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:59 PM Flag
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+1000000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:01 PM Flag
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Eventually... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:27 PM Flag
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This is like marching into the state lottery board because your # was smudged, and you worry you have the winning tic. The chances make it really worth the metaphorical rending of garments [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:31 PM Flag
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^^obviously meant NOT worth it [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:42 PM Flag
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Well, I would just like to see my kid's breakdown because apparently nobody over there is capable of interpreting the data. All the errors that were uncovered were thanks to the good ol' parents. Some parent's were able to see their child's breakdown, so why am I not entitled to such information? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:21 AM Flag
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np: I requested a score breakdown today. Haven't heard anything back yet. It is totally ridiculous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:27 AM Flag
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I requested one too... strange that they haven't gotten back to me either...Did you get a ticket # for your inquiry? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:44 AM Flag
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When I called, the guy over the phone said he could not help me but that I should send an email with my question and he would make sure the email was forwarded to the right person. I was not given a ticket # when I called nor when I sent my email. But it was yesterday (Monday) in the afternoon, around 3:30pm. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 09:49 AM Flag
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I understand, but I'm just trying to help you get past it. It's just painful, I know [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:33 AM Flag
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Doe sucks [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:10 PM Flag
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That's for sure! I requested one too! Nothing however some have gotten them! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 10:19 PM Flag
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I just got off the phone with a very polite, competent DOE employee who walked me through how my child's G&T test was scored. They made it very transparent. It took a few days, but eventually they came through. I hope you got answers too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 02:25 PM Flag
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^^^ They did not send me a breakdown, but walked it through over the phone using a screen sharing software. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 02:25 PM Flag
[ - ] Experience at Friends Seminary and Hunter. Any questions? 47 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.13.13, 09:10 PM Flag
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I've never heard those two schools used in the same sentence. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:10 PM Flag
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We applied to both, didn't end up at either. -np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:20 PM Flag
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Would like to hear more about Friends, do tell... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:19 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:41 PM Flag
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Whatta you know Friends? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:41 PM Flag
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NP: What I know about friends from having a ton of friends choose it for their dc is that it is a school with a wide mix in every possible way. It has some crazy smart dc, some pretty dim dc; some really great teachers, some really lame teachers, and so on. People choose it for the relaxed vibe and the location, not for the academics or the peer group. It's a nice neighborhood school with all that this implies. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:04 PM Flag
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nnp. i hear similar things from gf at friends. nice vibe. uneven teachers. strangely drill and kill for a downtown school. people like it because it is k-12, the quaker values and it is in the hood. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:10 PM Flag
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The uneven teachers and drill and kill types are, I believe, because there is a teachers' union there. They can't get rid of the ones they don't like. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:47 PM Flag
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See, that would never happen in public schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:46 PM Flag
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LOL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 06:47 PM Flag
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Friends please [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:51 PM Flag
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Brightest and strive to succeed = Hunter. Wealthiest without brains= Friends [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:22 PM Flag
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Ugh... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:29 PM Flag
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"strive" as in crazily competitive and nutso pretty much describes the parent body at hunter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:08 PM Flag
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Hunter families are about the most down to earth and normal people I have ever met amongst the mostly crazy NYC school parent community. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:19 PM Flag
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Hunter moms are surprisingly relaxed. I'm not a Hunter mom, but they are less competitive than a lot of the other moms. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:46 PM Flag
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Hunter moms are surprisingly relaxed. I'm not a Hunter mom, but they are less competitive than a lot of the other moms. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:46 PM Flag
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Hunter parents (we are two) are just like regular parents, mostly. We're very happy to have gotten lucky and so we're pretty docile, actually. Maybe 7-10% are crazies. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 12:24 AM Flag
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whats goin on at friends [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 11:20 PM Flag
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alien kidnappings [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:14 PM Flag
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Friends [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:16 PM Flag
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Why does the peer group at Friends have such a mixed reputation? Does anyone know? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:18 PM Flag
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Because that is the case at 90% of the schools!!!!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:36 PM Flag
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90% of the kids at all schools are known for not being very nice? Sorry, I don't buy that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:53 PM Flag
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PP Can you point out where the words "kids at all schools are known for not being very nice" appear in my post - or any of the prior posts? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:53 PM Flag
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Friends peer group is far more mixed then other schools we have been at. Why? We have no idea. The group is very "quirky" is the word typically used. Those kids also stay at the school longest. The more "regular" kids tend to leave. Or at least the very bright ones. The group that the HS brings in seems stronger then those that come in at K. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:59 PM Flag
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Many kids from our pre-school go to Friends, and I would say the kids are very mixed. One family is media celebrity and kid is nice but not exceptional in any way, one is rowdy and not a higher tester but parent has Quaker background, third kid is bright, high-strung child of academics, fourth kid kid (unconnected) is super-mature and compliant. I bet this is a clear reflection of the school. All are white, and all are full-pay, btw, except academics' kid, and the university pays 70% of tuition. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:16 PM Flag
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Ditto from our preschool, but add a LOT of kids (range of abilities) whose parents have crazy $$$. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 05:30 PM Flag
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In a nutshell this is what has happened to Friends. It is just not the same school it was ten years ago. Many of us would say for the worse. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:31 PM Flag
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We have been at six different schools (many children and all in middle school and above). I would say Friends students have a far greater spectrum then any other school we were at including public. Maybe because it is so small and they really take a bit of EVERYTHING. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 07:35 PM Flag
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Beginnings? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:25 PM Flag
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No. -np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:34 AM Flag
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No, Friends actually has a weird mix of kids. It has been mentioned on ub several times. schools usually look for a Certain type of personality, Friends doesn't. The only thing these kid have in common is dad has a huge bank account. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:24 PM Flag
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actually both the kids we know have really loaded grandparents, but I guess this is common at all the privates. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 03:50 AM Flag
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NP: Know one DC at Friends & the grandparents pay tuition, but I agree, this is quite common at all NYC privates. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:52 PM Flag
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More common at Friends. HM is not afraid to throw out big donor families when the dc is not cutting it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 07:42 PM Flag
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NP Yes, keeping your college statistics has always been more important than helping a child who needs it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 07:47 PM Flag
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Friends DOES NOT help a child in need. They keep them there if they are full boat. Many of these children need support and never get it. Terrible. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 08:02 PM Flag
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Seems to us Friends has no problem kicking out children who are on financial aid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 08:12 PM Flag
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Although Friends may be ethnically diverse, they are definately not financially diverse. I know of two families that applied to Friends for K with small FA requirements and, both were rejected. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.18.13, 05:57 PM Flag
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ITA. The three diverse families I know there are also extremely wealthy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.19.13, 03:58 AM Flag
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There is a family in our junior Kindergarten, and their daughter was not accepted at any private but Friends. They really wanted a SS conservative/traditional school. Their dream school was Spence. And, the father walks around telling everyone how he is so unhappy about his daughter entering Kindergarten at Friends this coming fall. The father is so obnoxious and rude to everyone. I guess, Friends has a real problem with their admissions department, as they accepted this family this rude and obnoxious family that is so unhappy. Harriet didn't even interview them! I think it was the new admissions assistant, as this family even said how their interview was horrible, yet they were accepted. At the same time, there was an ethnically diverse family in our class that was rejected by Friend and, this family would have really embraced the school. This ethnically diverse family would have been a perfect fit as, they are really nice, outgoing and, they are extremely active in our current junior kindergarten. As a parent with a second child entering Kindergarten at Friends this Fall, I am appalled at how Friends treated the ethnically diverse family and, it makes my family question how Friends operates. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.20.13, 12:35 AM Flag
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OMG I know the exact family you are speaking of. They hate it but it is the only school that accepted them. HORRIBLE! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.20.13, 02:55 PM Flag
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You should question it. As an ex friends family we wish we had gotten out sooner. Not all privates are the same. Lesson learned. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.20.13, 07:20 PM Flag
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JS? [ Reply | More ]
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??? [ Reply | More ]
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A family that lives near us in the suburbs use to go to Friends. They said they left the city because they were not happy there. These people have been on the front page of the city papers for having a nanny that they brutalized. Not very quakerly? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.20.13, 06:46 PM Flag
[ - ] Experience at Friends Seminary and Hunter. Any questions? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.13.13, 09:10 PM Flag
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what is your experience? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:28 PM Flag
[ - ] Xpost: Btdt high school moms: went to a high school fair with my dc. Three days After the fair we received a post card from one of the schools saying how great it was to meet my dd, stating things from their conversation and giving dd her direct line for any questions. My dd was excited and thinks that she made a good impression with this boarding school. We didn't receive cards or a follow up email from anyone else....do you think the follow up card was just them being cordial or did 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.13.13, 08:48 PM Flag
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I think they're just being cordial. You're at the beginning of the process. She's not accepted YET. However, I think it's a nice touch that things from the conversation were mentioned, that personalizes it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:51 PM Flag
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Thanks..,that's what I thought. I told her to not get ahead of herself. She was so excited and nervous about meeting so many admissions ppl [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:46 PM Flag
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it could be. But USE IT! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:45 PM Flag
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For now they're just being cordial. Some of the boarding schools have to reach out a little more to get interest in being part of their application base. Boarding school's not like college, though. I went to a small boarding school known for being experimental, on full FA, as an academic prospect. The school sent a lot of girls to 7 sisters, has strong drama and music, and many girls from wealthy NYC families who for whatever reason didn't go TT. Anyway, it was not really an "academic" school. As a result, at college admissions time, I got in everywhere I applied and chose Yale. There were only three students in my class who even applied to Yale. Andover has well over 100 students a year apply to Yale. Don't discount the smaller boarding schools that may market themselves to you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:02 PM Flag
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Andover has roughly 300 students per graduating class and more than a third go ivy. Doesn't effect chances very much, if anything betters them IMO. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:21 PM Flag
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But roughly 200 other students who would be equally qualified to do well at Ivy, don't go Ivy. Every single student at Andover could go Ivy and do well. They've been pre-screened. However, 2/3 of the class gets edged out of the chance. Take any one of those students and stick them at Andover High or even North Andover High and they'd be in. [ Reply | More ]
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np: I went to Exeter, so similar school and this is simply not true. Most kids at these schools are smart, but some really don't rise to the occasion. Not all would get into Ivy if they hadn't gone to TT boarding school. That said, certainly SOME of them would have. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:51 PM Flag
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Which school was this? Sounds like my dc would like something like this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:58 PM Flag
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Which boarding school was it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:12 PM Flag
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Wish I could say, but I could be pretty easily outed that route. I just wanted to give a boost to the schools at these fairs that take the time to reach out. I had a great boarding school experience and truly, fully credit this school with my college admission because if Harvard or Stanford or Georgetown etc. (pretty much anywhere I wanted to go) was going to take one student from my graduating class, it was going to be me. It's an ongoing issue with TT as well. But whatever, it's the perennial argument here on UB. You're just not going to change my mind on the subject, and no way, I did not send any of my kids TT and one's going Ivy in the fall now (not the one I attended) because I made him the biggest fish I could in a smaller pond. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: I really don't want to say justo in case I out myself with them. It's not one of the crazy TT ones but a well known and respected school out east [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:50 PM Flag
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Sorry OP I somehow wasn't looking and thought someone was asking me! I apologize [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:55 PM Flag
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That's ok :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:03 PM Flag
[ - ] so no robo call for us--anyone get one? what diff did it make? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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What's a robo call? Is the NRA targeting white urban moms with their propaganda? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:03 PM Flag
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lol, close - g&t. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:04 PM Flag
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op: lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:34 PM Flag
[ - ] Do many kids from Dalton, HM, Trinity, and other coeds in NYC go to boarding school for high school or is it much more popular among SS? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.13.13, 07:49 PM Flag
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Some do but much more popular amongst ss. Mostly because they end at 8th or 9th grade. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:01 PM Flag
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At which SS schools do boarding schools seem to be the most popular? Which do they usually go to? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:10 PM Flag
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the tradition used to be the boys schools. that is why the girls ss go thru HS [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:07 PM Flag
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It seems to be very popular among the girls' SS as well though. Maybe even more so than the boys'. I'd say the that the most stay at Brearley, most leave at Spence. I have a DD at Spence and the most popular boarding schools seem to be Deerfield, Andover, Exeter, and Groton. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:16 PM Flag
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np--About how many left Spence for boarding last year? I have a feeling you are talking about fewer than ten kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:38 PM Flag
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Closer to 15 last year actually. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 01:10 AM Flag
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at B this year, there are 12 girls leaving out of 60 or so. At least 5-6 are going to co-ed in the city ( not boarding) Trinity, Riverdale and Stuyvesant. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 03:06 AM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone know Rockland Country Day school? One of my friend is asking this. Any input will be highly appreciated! 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.13.13, 06:14 PM Flag
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nobody knows this school. Mu concern is it is too small. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:24 PM Flag
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I grew up in rockland and am not familiar with it. Public school is most common in Rockland. Is it a preK by any chance? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 07:43 PM Flag
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from prek-12th grade. My friend is interested in 10th grade [ Reply | More ]
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big concern is only has 130 students in total,any thoughts about this? they have open house on this friday. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 08:07 PM Flag
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what town does she live in? Everyone I knew did public [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:23 PM Flag
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Friend's dd attended until 3rd grade, the academics was not up to par and they moved her to public. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 10:28 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone know how public middle school letters will be distributed this year? Directly via mail to parents. First to elementary school. If to elementary do they give them to the kids or send home via mail? 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.13.13, 04:47 PM Flag
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our assistant principal says the letters go to him and he hands them out to the parents after drop off in the morning. they aren't backpacked home at our school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 04:53 PM Flag
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What if parents don't drop the kids? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:08 PM Flag
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I have a question: I know district assignments are handed out in school - but what about citywides like nest and anderson? Do they mail them to your house or do it thru school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:37 PM Flag
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I assume it is one letter, but what do I know? Is your school mailing the letters home or are you going in to pick them up? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:37 PM Flag
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our school puts them in backpack mail. but that is for district - I have no idea how Anderson/Nest handle. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:45 PM Flag
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That sounds horrible. Do kids rip them open and start comparing outcomes before they are home? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:42 PM Flag
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Why is that horrible - yes, some children open them but it really doesn't matter - the children are wonderful and not hyper competitive. They all find out who is going where anyway. Why makes this something hush hush negative emotion wrought? It's not. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:55 PM Flag
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and they get them at the end of the school day. half of them probably don't even know the envelope is in their folder. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:55 PM Flag
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only the dumb dcs who didn't get in anywhere good. (kidding, but ALL the kids know what the envelope is all about.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:45 PM Flag
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my ds never checks his folder [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:58 PM Flag
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kids (not teacher) actually put this sort of stuff in dcs' mailboxes. so everyone knows the ms envelopes have been distributed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.14.13, 11:44 PM Flag
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The teacher puts things in Dcs folder not other students at our school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.15.13, 01:40 AM Flag
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Anderson will email on the 20th. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 05:59 PM Flag
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WOW. Thank you so much! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:06 PM Flag
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You're welcome! Information is on the Anderson site. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:05 PM Flag
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Really? I checked yesterday and it didn't say that. Thanks again! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:17 PM Flag
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or at least I didn't see it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:17 PM Flag
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I think they just posted it today. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:18 PM Flag
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aha! UB rocks! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 06:18 PM Flag
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don't know about anderson, but at nest they ask for a stamped self-addressed envelope when you go take the test, and they send the news home in that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.13.13, 09:20 PM Flag
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