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Dalton offers a spring tour as does Horace mann. Brearley does not unless dd is legacy. And Trinity does not. So my thoughts are - you can't have an opinion right now on all these schools unless you are basing it just on the website. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:46 PM Flag

Someone is very bored on this rainy day. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:46 PM Flag

Both of my DD's did Brearley as , of course, did I and my sister and my darling niece so there is no question here for moi. Brearley Beavers all the way. My nephew , however , attended Dalton. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 04:50 PM Flag

[ - ] I am torn between Chapin or Spence - please help. Which would you choose? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.25.13, 03:25 PM Flag

Save being torn for next year when they both accept your kid. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:26 PM Flag

Is this a name poll? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:26 PM Flag

Torn as in you're making a decision now? Isn't it a little late? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:27 PM Flag

np I think it's about 3.5 months too late. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:28 PM Flag

FAKE [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:29 PM Flag

Watching this!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 04:11 PM Flag

Lady be torn once you get two acceptance letters...not now when it's all in fantasyland [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 06:18 PM Flag

[ - ] Should we go with Hunter or Dalton? I would love to hear people's thoughts. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.25.13, 03:24 PM Flag

Whoever accepts your child. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:32 PM Flag

The dealing for acceptance letters was a while ago. Fakee. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:29 PM Flag

[ - ] Top Horace Mann officials acknowledged decades of sexual abuse at the exclusive private school for the first time on Friday, apologizing for "unconscionable betrayals of trust" but stopping short of authorizing an independent investigation. In a letter posted to the school's website, Horace Mann officials said 31 alumni had described to a mediator "in painful detail" abuse that happened between 17 and 51 years ago. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.25.13, 03:22 PM Flag

http://wap.nytimes.com/2013/05/25/nyregion/horace-mann-issues-apology-but-refuses-outside-inquiry.html [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:30 PM Flag

Well now we know what they were covering up.disgusting. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 03:32 PM Flag

That school can suck balls. Too much done...too little in response [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 06:19 PM Flag

[ - ] Should we go with Collegiate or coed with Horace Mann or Trinity? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.25.13, 10:46 AM Flag

I think you should apply to all three. Don't limit yourself 4 months before the application process even begins [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:45 AM Flag

T is evident from your post that haven't got a clue about the K process. Your chances of you ds getting a spot at these schools range from ain't going to happen to very unlikely. You, my friend, aren't going with any school you mention. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:01 PM Flag

This is obviously a fake post that is meant to stir trouble. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:18 PM Flag

Collegiate is much smaller school. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:09 PM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 04:29 PM Flag

[ - ] My kindergarten son really had a hard time finishing the assignment asking him to read a book and write what happened in the beginning, in the middle and at the end. What could I do to help him? 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.25.13, 01:05 AM Flag

Ask open ended questions [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:08 AM Flag

Maybe break the book down at the beginning. Have himread a page or two, then give you a breakdown instead of having to recapture it all at the end. Then maybe have him read it again the whole way through. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:16 AM Flag

OP: He had no problem in understanding the J level book. He just had a hard time summarizing what happened in the middle. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:23 AM Flag

Maybe the book sucked [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:22 AM Flag

Kindy lit is pretty dry. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:23 AM Flag

Let him be 5 or 6 and run and play. Children learn through play -not written assignments in K. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:32 AM Flag

said the private school mom [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:28 AM Flag

My children may be in private school -but what does that have to do with anything? It doesn't change how children learn or how ridiculous it is to expect a 5YO boy to read a book and write about the beginning, middle, and end. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:59 AM Flag

This! Totally agree [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:23 AM Flag

wow what schools giving this assignment to a 5 y/o? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:34 AM Flag

A gen ed. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:44 AM Flag

manhattan? UWS or UES? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:42 AM Flag

sadly, all public k dcs will be doing this once common core is fully implemented. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:22 PM Flag

This is kind of advance for K, I agree. I would take this as an opportunity to do the assignment with him. It will be very useful for him. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:10 AM Flag

Re-read the book with him. For each page ask him to tell you the main idea of that single page. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:11 AM Flag

Take your child to storytelling events. There's a good series at Central Park in the summer on Saturdays: http://www.hcastorycenter.org/storytelling-schedule.html [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:19 AM Flag

^^^ I think it's important for children to hear real storytelling. It gives them a sense of real narrative structure. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:33 AM Flag

That's an insane assignment for K. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:27 AM Flag

try to have him diagram it. Draw circles and draw or write in what happened in each stage. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:25 PM Flag

He's not used to thinking of a story that way. He may or may not be ready to think of a story that way. It's a little early for that assignment. However, you can help him by telling him a story using those structures. Like this: First let me tell you the beginning of the story. Little Red Riding Hood wanted to go visit her sick grandma. She took a basket of delicious muffins and put on her red cloak. Don't talk to any strangers said her mother. I won't. said Little Red. That was the first part of the story. Now, I'll tell you the middle of the story.. You can have some fun with him if you say you're going to tell him the middle and then you skip to a beat before the end.. Now, I'll tell you the middle of the story: the huntsman chopped up the stomach of the wolf and out came Little Red Riding Hood and the wolf ran away and they all lived happily ever after. He'll protest and then you can ask mock confused and he'll say that's not the middle. and you can say it's not? what is it? And he can say, The End! And now you've reinforced what the middle and ends of a story are. Keep the stories simple or keep the stories familiar. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 08:47 PM Flag

[ - ] Riverdale Country School's college placement this year? How did it go? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.25.13, 12:27 AM Flag

it's not on their website yet. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:14 AM Flag

[ - ] Avenues early admissions for siblings is due June 15. That's very early. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.25.13, 12:03 AM Flag

Little hijack: Are avenues families working the wait list or have they moved on? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:16 AM Flag

[ - ] It disgusts me when people make pedophile jokes about HM or head injury jokes about Brearley. Obvious jealousy IMO. 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 10:38 PM Flag

puhleez. i don't do either but it's just not the case that when someone has a laugh at someone else's expense, it's born of jealousy. a streak of meanness, maybe, but not jealousy. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:41 PM Flag

It's please, not puhleez. What are you, 12? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:43 PM Flag

i am and even i know that it's not jealousy. puhleez. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:39 PM Flag

Yes people is jealous of the HM victims. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:40 PM Flag

I think it's more in the Naked Emperor vein. We're appalled/fascinated at how hard the mighty fall. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:49 PM Flag

Why would anyone be jealous of victimized children? I think they are making fun of the school. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:43 PM Flag

well, duh. Obviously OP is saying people are jealous of those who have dcs at those schools and thus bring up the scandals there. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 04:59 AM Flag

Don't know if I've heard any - examples please? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:00 PM Flag

Happens every time either school is mentioned. Literally every time. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:02 PM Flag

ya i'd love a head injury [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:06 PM Flag

I have one child at Horace Mann and another at Hunter. My husband and I both went to Trinity - the things people write about these schools is comical/sad/disgusting/wrong...all because they are frustrated/jealous/confused/fascinated...by these schools and a few others like them. It's like a broken record - no windows, pressure cookers, child abuse, nasty families, entitled children, pedophiles everywhere, horrible facilities, unhappy children, alien abductions, racism, conspiracy theories, sightings of Elvis in the hallway,...none of this is of course true, well except for the Elvis part. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:31 PM Flag

i don't think anyone is confused about the culture at HM that enabled this ring of pedophiles to victimize children. your inability to see this as a true issue concerns me. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:08 AM Flag

Did not take long! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:36 AM Flag

Oh dear, you are very confused! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:37 AM Flag

NP: you seem very full of yourself and your family's school choices. You also outed yourself with too many details. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 01:58 AM Flag

and why would she care about having outed herself? It's not like she told you some deep dark secret [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 05:02 AM Flag

nnp: How in the world does this poster sound "full of herself"? She does nothing but state what schools her dcs, her dh and she herself went to (just facts). And then she wrote her opinion of what others write about these schools - and she's right. And I personally know two families with kids at HM and Hunter so she is not outing herself. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:41 PM Flag

You are, of course, entirely right-- as witnessed by the responses to your post. Sorry about that, though it serves you right to try to make sense to these pinheads. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 05:02 AM Flag

My thoughts exactly [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:33 AM Flag

Is it true that the Board has settled with many of those who came forward but has decided not to conduct and independent investigation as to how this was covered up for so long? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:14 PM Flag

[ - ] Applying to K next year and trying to get a general feel for a bunch of schools. Where are your children in school? Are you happy? Why did you choose it for DC? TIA! 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 09:57 PM Flag

DDs are at Brearley. We've been very happy at Brearley so far, I grew up in the south, where SS schools are a lot more uncommon. The whole idea and concept was so new to me and I ended up loving it. DDs are thriving and especially with my oldest DD, I've noticed a great deal of confidence which I never had at thirteen y/o. Highly recommend SS if you're debating between the two. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:01 PM Flag

how's the head injury? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:29 PM Flag

you may be underestimating your DD. She might be a confident 13 y/o at coed as well. My DD is at a wonderful coed and I love watching her her blossom into a confident teenager, happy to interact and compete with the boys, as well as girls. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:03 AM Flag

np--I don't think of school as a competition. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 11:24 AM Flag

we liked the single sex schools and wanted a place that retained the kids from k all the way through 12 so chose ECF a progressive k-12 coed [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:28 PM Flag

Why'd you end up choosing coed over progressive? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:31 PM Flag

DD would have done well at SS, but I chose coed because we also have a DS. Very glad they are in the same school. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:09 AM Flag

We have three at Trinity and so far it has been a wonderful experience. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:35 AM Flag

[ - ] Has anybody chosen different private schools for your DC? What made you do this? What about the schools made you see them as better fits for each child? 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 08:03 PM Flag

As of now, we have four children in three different private schools. Our oldest is in boarding school, our next is in a coed, and our youngest two are in a SS. Honestly, our oldest DD first attended a SS which she nor DH and I were very happy with. Second DC got into a coed school, which we were shocked to have gotten into having no connections. We planned to apply our oldest to the coed for sixth grade, but she decided to stay in her SS and apply to boarding schools for high school. Our second to youngest DD was very very shy, to the point that it was unbearable at times. PSD highly recommended that we put her in SS and wanted to put her where our eldest was at the time. Since we had not been happy there, we applied broadly to a bunch of other SS schools and DD was accepted into one which we loved and have been very happy with. Afterwards we decided that SS might be best for our youngest as well and she joined our other DD. People think that we're crazy and trust me, if I could have them all at one school, I would in a heart beat, but it just didn't work out that way for us. We and DC are very happy though with the schools which they are attending. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:22 PM Flag

What do you do for pick up and drop off? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:33 PM Flag

Older DD who goes to a coed can walk and I take the younger two. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:37 PM Flag

hhi ? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:30 PM Flag

Why does it matter? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:37 PM Flag

Yes, Calhoun and Nightingale-both girls. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:38 PM Flag

What made you choose such different schools for them? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:44 PM Flag

np: I'm sure different kids with different learning styles n needs [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:31 PM Flag

Dd and ds are each in ss schools. They chose this in ms. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 09:21 PM Flag

Where are they in school? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:02 PM Flag

Might do it. One in progressive and it's perfect but #2 is a very different kid already and might do better in a more traditional environment. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:09 PM Flag

Which progressive? We're very interested in progressive schools for DC. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:15 PM Flag

Calhoun, dc has been there for 5 years and we are very happy with the school. I also have friends who are happy at LREI and hear more of a mixed reaction to ECFS--one friend with 2 dc there love it, but another doesn't like it and wishes they'd made another choice. The dc seems happier than the mom, though. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:23 PM Flag

Thanks so much! Any thoughts on Dalton? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:44 PM Flag

No, sorry, we didn't look there. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:53 PM Flag

yes, I have two DC and every year, except for one in nursery, they have been at different schools. I didn't have much choice, this is where they were accepted. However, each school fits well with the kid, so I guess it kind of works out in the end. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 12:36 PM Flag

[ - ] All the private schools in NYC are great. Great! 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 07:21 PM Flag

Not all. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:20 PM Flag

Which ones are not? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:32 PM Flag

I think we all know the answer - its just a matter of accepting it. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:36 AM Flag

And the ones that aren't great are Terrific!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:46 PM Flag

Yes, that is what I hear all the time. Which ones are merely great then? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:33 PM Flag

[ - ] If your dc is waitlisted for gen-ed kindergarten, have you gotten any info at all about where you are on the list or where your dc will go if s/he doesn't get in? I've called and school is not giving any info. They said we'd hear about alternate placements in the fall. 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 05:50 PM Flag

^^for public school [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:44 PM Flag

Our school said we'd hear about alternate placements in the fall [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:45 PM Flag

op: aren't you nervous? They won't tell us which schools it might be [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:47 PM Flag

Of course i'm worried and nervous but Can't waste negative energy on it - whatever is going to happen will happen. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:50 PM Flag

op: what did you tell dc? Mine is at a school where they write all the kindergartens on the wall next to pictures of the kids. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:07 PM Flag

np--This seems inappropriate for 4 year old children. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:37 PM Flag

np: I asked the parents coordinator what school historically gets the overflow from our zoned and she told me. She also mentioned that it's with 95% certainty. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:56 PM Flag

op: I asked and they said "we have no idea" [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:05 PM Flag

I'm sorry to hear that! Hang in there- when we were WL someone told me to keep checking in with the school on a weekly basis. I hope it works out for you! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:18 PM Flag

op: i'm calling! thanks [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:24 PM Flag

What school are you W/L at. UB might know your odds or where your likely to e sent [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 09:30 PM Flag

DC was WL and we got a call with offer about a month ago [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:52 PM Flag

^^the school told me the latest they will let WL families know if they got in or not is late June. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:54 PM Flag

op: I spoke to principal. She said we won't know until the first week of classes. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:06 PM Flag

Ugh! Did the school have a WL last year and did they clear it? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:18 PM Flag

Rezoned last year:( [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:09 PM Flag

First week of classes?! That sounds beyond the pale even for the DOE. Unless what she meant was that you'll get a placement at some other school over the summer, but you could still potentially move after the first week of classes if registered students don't show up. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:27 PM Flag

We were on the wait list a few years ago and our parent coordinator told me what number we were. We didn't get a spot until July. Also, we were sent a letter from the DOE with an alternative school which was NOT GOOD! It was on the opposite side of town and was a crappy gen ed school. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:01 PM Flag

Which school? Downtown I assume. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:23 PM Flag

brooklyn [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:04 PM Flag

We have an exceedingly bad WL number for our gen ed (which the parent coordinator did willingly tell us). At a meeting for waitlisted families, they couldn't tell the parents what the overflow school was, but they did say that it has always been the same one in the past. This was before the full extent of the G&T debacles were known, but they said we'd get placement information in mid June. I suspect now it'll be more like mid-late July. This whole thing is a complete clusterf*. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:26 PM Flag

op: yup [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:04 PM Flag

This is the kind of bureaucratic BS that drives some parents towards private schools. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:13 PM Flag

[ - ] I know eleven uber wealthy families from Harvard who paid someone to take their kids' SAT test so they could get a perfect score so that their kids, who are all at TT schools and getting straights As, would be accepted. 32 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 05:46 PM Flag

Blackmail them - they will pay handsomely for you to keep this to yourself [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:47 PM Flag

They told you this? It's against the law, right? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:49 PM Flag

How is it possible that you know 11 families that did this? Is your kid the one who sat for theirs? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:59 PM Flag

Wake-up! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:19 PM Flag

Yes. 11 Über wealthy people told you they did this. Very believable. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:00 PM Flag

I doubt this is true. Eleven? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:00 PM Flag

DD took the SATs in March - the admission ticket requires a downloaded photograph and the test center requires two forms of photo ID. Now, I'm not saying that paying someone to take the test is impossible, but the idea that you would personally know ELEVEN kids who cheated this way, and ALL of whom got a perfect score, and ALL of whom got into Harvard, seems statistically unlikely. Sorry. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:54 PM Flag

That is very recent. Big scandal in LI last year. Even now, kids get phony ID, use others. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:12 PM Flag

I suppose it happens, but the OP has started drinking before 5:00. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:09 PM Flag

yeah, you sound so trustworthy. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:58 PM Flag

OP I know because me and my brother took the test for them! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:12 PM Flag

Not with that kind of grammar, you didn't. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:16 PM Flag

HA [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:29 PM Flag

Are you both in high school? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 09:03 PM Flag

There were actually 3 other über wealthy families but there kids did not get into Harvard / others were two at Yale and one at Williams [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:06 PM Flag

You got a perfect SAT score and yet you do not know the difference between there and their? Right. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:16 PM Flag

Of course this happens. You think a family would invest all that money in K-12 and not spend a little more to make sure the SAT scores are perfect? I don't know eleven families that did that but I know of a few. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:29 PM Flag

I think I remember the big LI scandal that someone mentioned above. It was a Stuy kid who took the suburban kids' tests, and he didn't even charge all that much, though he became the example. The suburban kids' parents wrote him checks. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:29 PM Flag

THIS. Searched for his services and wrote him the checks. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:57 PM Flag

He was either expelled or otherwise in serious trouble for cheating, as I recall, and I believe the Long Island kids got into good colleges. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:04 PM Flag

You sure it's not twelve? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:52 PM Flag

NP I know at least 34 of them so 11 is not that many. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:11 PM Flag

Wow, you know 34 people who admitted going to H by having someone take their SATs for them? Any get there taking their own test? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:22 PM Flag

Nope [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:31 PM Flag

LOL [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:11 PM Flag

how much did you earn each time? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:29 PM Flag

The test is so heavily prepped for that I give little weight to a really high score. Some kids are trained for that test since birth and some every weekend for years taking classes just for that test. When I hear of a perfect score I think "Wonder how much they spent tutoring that kid" or "Wonder how many year he has been studying for it."I never think "Wow that kid must be really smart." [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 08:06 PM Flag

DS never study a lick. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 09:34 PM Flag

Sign my kid up to take it for them, he scored a 2400 without studying! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 09:28 PM Flag

Sign my kid up to take it for them, he scored a 2400 without studying! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 09:28 PM Flag

Folks, I think the OP is fucking with you!! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:32 PM Flag

This goes to show you how unbelievably caught-up people on UB are in all the bullshit that gets posted here. You could have said you knew 80 families and they would still believe you. Unreal! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:32 AM Flag

[ - ] Everyone gets into their first choice school in NYC. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 05:41 PM Flag

Yes, one of he benefits if an NYC public education [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:43 PM Flag

Town is public? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:47 PM Flag

What? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:02 PM Flag

lol. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:04 PM Flag

Sounds as though OP has been sampling the product. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:05 PM Flag

On UB, they do. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:17 PM Flag

Seems that way, does it not? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:27 PM Flag

Its pretty comical. Most people chose shit. They were lucky they had one offer and took that even if it was a 2nd or 3rd or 4 th tier school. But, it was the first choice. Really, it was. Seriously! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:41 AM Flag

[ - ] What is better a nurturing school or a school where children thrive? 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 05:40 PM Flag

Children can thrive in a nurturing school- your wording is off [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:41 PM Flag

ITA. no idea what OP is asking [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:52 PM Flag

+2 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:57 PM Flag

This [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:57 PM Flag

np Depends on if "nurturing" is a nice way of saying the academic program is geared toward average to below average kids. This could bore a smart kid to death. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:01 PM Flag

A school where children really learn would be great. Also one where children aren't left to their own devices would be great. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:42 PM Flag

here, here! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:11 PM Flag

*hear, hear* is how it's spelled. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:36 PM Flag

I go with "here,hear". Just in case. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 09:19 PM Flag

Boys do better in less competitive environments, girls do better with competition. Per the new Po Bronson book. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:19 PM Flag

I would hope that all schools are nurturing and that children thrive there. What am I missing? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:38 PM Flag

nurturing makes children thrive. academics challenge children. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:47 PM Flag

Folks, I think the OP is fucking with you! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 11:32 PM Flag

Marymount gives a teddy bear as a sign of nurturing love and tenderness. This empowers the students to thrive above and beyond all the other schools. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 10:43 AM Flag

[ - ] If you had the choice, 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 05:39 PM Flag

I would go back to bed [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:40 PM Flag

I'd do everything different. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:46 PM Flag

I'd work 30% of my job so I'd still have something intellectually interesting and a nice place to go when my kids drove me nuts. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:11 PM Flag

[ - ] Which one should we choose: good district g&t or excellent gen-ed both nearby for academically advanced dc entering k? not a genius but very far ahead in elementary school subjects 40 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More

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NY Schools 05.24.13, 05:33 PM Flag

Don't you have youyr own opinion for your own kid? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:29 PM Flag

op: obviously I'm torn. I'd love dc to go gen-ed until 2nd or 3rd and then switch but we don't get that option [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:32 PM Flag

come back when you are offered a seat at the G&T [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:35 PM Flag

op: we're in brooklyn, I did not list the top district option (put 2nd one instead), and dc got 99. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:30 PM Flag

^^second one is much closer to our apt [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:32 PM Flag

Musical talent or athletic? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:29 PM Flag

op: athletic (dance/gymnastics) but I'm not worried about having that at school [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:31 PM Flag

I'm all for good Gen ed. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:30 PM Flag

ditto [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:06 PM Flag

You are in a win-win situation, so go with your gut. I would personally go with the district G&T if it was nearby my home. It my child had a long commute, I would go with gen ed. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:32 PM Flag

If they're both so close, if take G&T. If G&T was a PITA commute and grdEd was "excellent", I' go genEd. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:40 PM Flag

Go for the gen ed. It is just elementary school, and you can try for selective MS. I don't think there is that much benefit in g&t district elementary if your gen ed is good. If it is not, well, then do g&t, but you sound like you are in a great position. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:36 PM Flag

you can switch from G&T to GenEd if you change your mind later but you cannot do the other way. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:43 PM Flag

+1 [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:44 PM Flag

op: good point--hmmm.... [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:41 PM Flag

but do you want to? having dc start over again? yanking him from the "smart" school? not a great idea imo. np. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:05 PM Flag

He's young, he will adjust. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:12 PM Flag

Our district g&t is not different from gen ed. Our principal doesn't believe in it. The kids might be overall a little stronger, but the teachers are all better and more experienced in gen ed. So depends on your school. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:51 PM Flag

It doesn't matter much K-2, but you definitely want them in G&T 3-5. At that point, your dc is in a class with other students who WANT to learn. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:06 PM Flag

How do you know, based on current screening methods, that these kids will want to learn? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:04 PM Flag

I haven't done any research but have a few friends who have kids that were in both good gen eds and G&T. They are now in middle schools. So more anecdotal. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:21 PM Flag

ditto and ditto. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:06 PM Flag

Which school? Have you had kids at both? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:07 PM Flag

How crowded/chaotic are the schools? Do you want dc with the same group of kids every year? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:49 PM Flag

op: both pretty chaotic/crowded. don't care whether dc is with the same kids or not. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:08 PM Flag

op, you should consider this. G&T kids stay together for all 6 years. I think it's a negative thing. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:14 PM Flag

np: that's true. It will depend on the group. Not much different than some privates. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:22 PM Flag

G & T unless there is a cap on gen ed class size. Class sizes at many excellent elementary schools go up to 30 kids per class with one teacher in upper grades. G & T will be small sized all the way. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:52 PM Flag

np: there are more kids In our district g&t than gened classes. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 05:56 PM Flag

not true. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:06 PM Flag

G&T classes can go up to 32 just like gen ed classes. G&T classes are actually becoming more crowded due to high demand. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:13 PM Flag

we had the choice and picked excellent gen ed for our similar dc. we have been very happy. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:05 PM Flag

Me too, but I have second guessed myself many times over the past year. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 06:23 PM Flag

We are in D15. We chose 230 over 321 for our older daughter (now in HS) and we chose 321 over 230 for our middle daughter (now in 8th grade). We have a son (surprise baby) headed to KG now. There were pros and cons to both options and our choice ultimately came down to the girls' personalities more than the schools themselves. Upsides to GT: We knew exactly the teachers would be in GT at 230 and they were reliably good. Even at top gen-eds there will be some duds and there were definitely duds at 230 and 321, but the teachers in the GT program at 230 at the time were consistently good. 230 was more diverse than 321 (which is a plus for me) and the enrichment offerings at 230 were better -- kids had more cluster classes at 230 than are offered at 321, especially in the early grades. That's not because 230 has a GT program but because it is a Title I school. Downsides to GT: My daughter's friends at 230 came from all over the district, making playdates harder to coordinate, especially with two working parents. By 5th grade, my daughter was really tired of her classmates. She still loved many of them and is still friends with many of them today, but she was eager to break out of the mold and sought to attend a different middle school than most of her friends. Basically, after six years together, these kids had sibling-like qualities to their friendships -- they cared deeply about each other, but were also competitive, had lots of petty drama, etc. And there was one student who was extremely difficult -- she was pretty meanspirited and verbally aggressive (she even hit one kid with a chair). I don't want to characterize her as a bully, she was more troubled, but she was particularly hostile toward my daughter and yet there was no way to get away from her until middle school. In a district school, we could've requested that they be placed in separate classes. There are many kids at 321 who live outside the neighborhood, but overall, I appreciate that it's a community school. Academics at the two programs were pretty equal, but I do think it's a bit easier for teachers to differentiate in a GT setting. There is varying ability in both settings, but the spectrum is narrower in a GT setting. But I think, overall, my daughters' academic experiences were fairly similar. Sorry for the length, but I actually weighed this choice twice and experienced both sides so I thought it might be helpful. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:49 PM Flag

op: thank you!! Where is your son heading to school in the fall? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 10:13 PM Flag

We moved to PS 10 zone before he was born. He qualified for district GT, but we decided in the end to stick with 10. I'm really excited about it -- parents I know there are very happy and it combines the things I liked most about 230 and 321 -- neighborhood feel, but diverse and lots of enrichment offerings. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 06:27 PM Flag

it's funny. my dc is at a gen ed where the teachers are consistently good to excellent (obviously a few duds) and the enrichment programs are stellar. it's not a title 1 school, obviously, but the parents raise boatloads of $$$. i think that's something to keep in mind when choosing between g&t and top gen ed: the fundraising. i also think to suggest there are never bad teachers at a g&t is not accurate. np. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 02:32 PM Flag

OR: I agree completely that teachers in GT programs do not have to be uniformly excellent or even decent. It was just that in this specific case, I knew exactly which teachers she would have (one teacher per grade) and the they were all excellent as confirmed by many friends with older kids in the school. In fact, I've heard from classmate's parents whose younger children came through after our kids that teachers who replaced some that left are not as good. As for fundraising, it can go along way, but can't be spent on teachers salaries and you get more impact hiring a full-time teacher than spending the same amount of money on arts partnerships. But, again, I was speaking to our personal choices to give OP a sense of what we considered in making the decision so she could think about those issues. With teachers particularly, you usually do have a clearer sense of what teachers will be assigned to your child, especially if there is just one section per grade. Someone might leave, but the turnover is usually pretty modest. So if you know parents who can give you a sense of whether those teachers are good -- or even a good fit for your child -- it's a pretty helpful piece of information to consider. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 06:21 PM Flag

but the converse is also true: if there is one bad teacher at a g&t, your dc is sure to have that teacher, whereas if there are many teachers per grade that's not necessarily the case. just as if there is one bully or mean dd, your dc is stuck with that dc for six years. btw, money can and is spent on teachers' salaries as far as cluster classes and enrichment goes. and the arts partnerships are fabulous. in some ways i think those have more impact even if they don't happen every week in every grade. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.25.13, 06:26 PM Flag

Excellent gen ed. Most of the district g+t share space with "bad" school with a very segregated feel. If your gen ed is considered excellent - I'd opt for that instead. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 05.24.13, 07:50 PM Flag