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01.31.13, 20:39 PM General Topics
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Drug addiction, domestic violence, pedofilia are good grounds for divorce. For everything else you should really think long and hard. The divorced moms have it so much worse and those poor kids with shared custody are miserable. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 01.31.13, 08:39 PM Flag
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ita [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:40 PM Flag
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Scat? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 02:16 AM Flag
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what about cheating? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 07:43 PM Flag
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this is offensive - DH's DC from his prior marriage grew up in joint custody and she has a great relationship with her parents [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:41 PM Flag
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how is her inner life? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:45 PM Flag
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she is a responsible adult and has an active social life, does not do drugs, drink, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:51 PM Flag
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ok well minimal criteria met but not an especially deep picture [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:50 PM Flag
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how much ground could possibly be covered on a public message board? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:52 PM Flag
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You're not setting the bar very high there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:53 PM Flag
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um, the idea here is not to appease you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:00 PM Flag
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that's her outer life [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 06:55 AM Flag
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Ask them how they liked being schlepped btw 2 homes and having to get to know you when they were little. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:43 PM Flag
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It worked out just fine; so sorry it clearly hasn't worked out as well for you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:52 PM Flag
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According to you? Ask her if she would have preferred they stay together. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:53 PM Flag
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what difference would it make? and why the jumping all over my case - I didn't come into the picture until years after DH and his ex split up, what, was I supposed to not enter into a relationship with a divorced man out of some ridiculous standard that he should have stayed in his marriage? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:58 PM Flag
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np. You're the one who immediately attacked OP as being "offensive." Don't start trying to play victim now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:58 PM Flag
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yes, OP's bitchy judgment is offensive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:01 PM Flag
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yes, I'm victim to anonymous posters on UB. you got me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:05 PM Flag
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OP: Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:43 AM Flag
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NP. You were supposed to ask her how she liked it. Not how it worked out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:54 PM Flag
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um no, it was not me who was supposed to ask, it was her parents who asked [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:01 PM Flag
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You sound like a bitter stepmother. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:00 PM Flag
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where do you get that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:06 PM Flag
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^ and BTW, I also get along well with DH's ex [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:07 PM Flag
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OP: It's not about you. How did she like it? The divorce ruined her family. People cope and move on but had they worked it out it may have been better for all involved. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:08 PM Flag
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Wow. You must have nothing else is your life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 01:30 AM Flag
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OP: sorry my opinion upsets you to the point of making personal attacks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:44 AM Flag
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That's not what personal attack means. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 12:39 PM Flag
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??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 09:13 PM Flag
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and you sound extremely sanctimonious [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:10 PM Flag
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this. good catch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:52 AM Flag
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np. No, stop looking to take offense. It's great that your step-kid was able to thrive despite this, but it's certainly not something that parents should enter into unless it's absolutely necessary. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:43 PM Flag
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and who decided that OP is the arbiter of what's 'absolutely necessary' [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:51 PM Flag
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OP: UBs with good judgement [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:44 AM Flag
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Don't delude yourself pretending it's ideal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:46 PM Flag
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Very in love with DH but completely aware that HAPPY parents are also important. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:46 PM Flag
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Eh. You make your own happiness. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:47 PM Flag
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OP: ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:48 PM Flag
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This is true to an extent, but it doesn't do anybody any favors to have two miserable parents who argue all the time and don't get along. Yes, being shelped between two homes would have sucked, but listening to screaming matches and watching my dad check out and hearing my mom crying all the time because of the arguments were no picnic either. And it certainly did me no favors for learning how I should be treated by men, how to handle problems, or how a healthy relationship should look. - Poster who wishes her parents would have divorced. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 09:22 PM Flag
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np: thank you. That is exactly why I decided to get divorced, I didn't want my two kids living in such a nightmare world. IMO much much more damaging than having two homes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 12:30 AM Flag
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I agree and that is WHY I got a divorce too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 02:41 AM Flag
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Hellooo People. Where did you come up with the notion that you should be happy all the time??? As long as you can keep things cicil, if you have DCs, suck it up, and be a family. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:46 AM Flag
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that was me, OP [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:47 AM Flag
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So your daughter sees that's all she should strive towards? So the kids can pick up on all the toxic energy and built up resentments and have no idea what a healthy loving marriage looks like?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 12:31 AM Flag
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I'd include affairs. Verbal abuse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:44 PM Flag
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Nah. If he is verbally abusing you youre letting that happen. Better empower yourself while in the marriage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:49 PM Flag
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I don't think its as simple as that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:51 PM Flag
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That's ridiculous, if your spouse is verbally abusing you you're married to an a**hole. They're not going to change their personality because you "empower yourself". I basically agree w/OP's point, but I'd also place verbal abuse and a pattern of infidelity in it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 02:04 AM Flag
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then you should have selected better. Know the person you marry and dont marry an ahole hoping he will change. Some women are so desperate to tie the knot they will take drek. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:20 AM Flag
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no abuser meets a woman and opens with insults. abusers are extremely manipulative and the relationships can be very loving and idyllic at first. often abuse only starts to come out during pregnancy. it's not nearly as simple as you are making it out to be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 08:04 PM Flag
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I find it hard to believe they flip a switch. Choose wisely. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 09:16 PM Flag
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it's not that they flip a switch. of course there are red flags. but these red flags can be extremely romantic - they want to get engaged quickly, they say they can't live without you, they want to spend 100% of their time with you. yes, it is a poor choice to date an abuser. but just because you married one doesn't mean you have to stay with them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 03:49 PM Flag
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^^^ i work in dv, you'd be surprised how many women say their husband is bipolar or he "flipped a switch." it can definitely feel that way when everything was perfect before. like i said, abusers can be master manipulators. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 03:51 PM Flag
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you're an idiot. verbal and emotional abuse are abuse. not letting it happen is leaving the marriage and showing your kids what self respect looks like. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 08:00 PM Flag
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YES YES YES. why are these women such dumb asses? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 02:43 AM Flag
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Why don't you stfu. My ex had affair and left me. What the fuck did you want me to do? How condescening can you get? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:44 PM Flag
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^^And we do NOT have shared custody. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:45 PM Flag
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sorry for what happened to you. I am not addressing the women whose jackass DH did that but the ones thinking of leaving. Also you did not have to agree to the divorce. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:47 PM Flag
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BS. In NY and every other state I know of, either party can get divorce withouth consent of other. You are such a POS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:52 PM Flag
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Not so. Check your facts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:36 PM Flag
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NP: Wait a sec here -- I may be missing something, but is it really possible to contest a divorce? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:53 PM Flag
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No, OP is a POS. She is probably the type who blames women who can not get pregnant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:54 PM Flag
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OP here. Most women who can't get pregnant do so after they just give up and relax. Too many control freaks out there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:10 PM Flag
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too many judgment freaks out there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:13 PM Flag
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OP: the beauty of UB. A forum to air it out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:15 PM Flag
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Wow, you are both judgmental AND ignorant. What a combination. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:13 AM Flag
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Not so. Im right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:48 AM Flag
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She's a fucking idiot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 02:46 AM Flag
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OK, that's what I thought. It just didn't sound at all plausible. So incredibly mean-spirited to tell a woman whose cheating husband left her for someone else that she didn't have to agree to the divorce. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:25 PM Flag
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OP: Not trying to be mean. Tired of hearing from so many princesses and whiners on UB. Did not know about no contest in NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:32 PM Flag
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Its that way in every state. If you weren't trying to be mean, I'd hate to see you when you try. I only wish I knew who you are, who you worked for, etc. You'ld never get any business from me. Your kid would get blackballed every chance I could get. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:13 AM Flag
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You're going after my lievihood and my kid. My innocent kid who never did anything to you. Are you the poster whose husband left? I can se why he may have wanted to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:19 AM Flag
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ITA. She's an ignorant bitch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 02:47 AM Flag
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You OP need to know what the fuck you are talking about before you spout off incorrect information. You are so stupid. It makes me actually laugh. Thank you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 02:45 AM Flag
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Np: good for you for not teaching your dc's to be doormats. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:50 PM Flag
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How did she not teach this? She was a completely passive participant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:54 PM Flag
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She left him because he was having an affair rather than put up with being shit on. Good for her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:00 PM Flag
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Actually OR from above, he really didnt give me a choice. However, I think I am living a better life with me and DC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:59 PM Flag
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Sorry he left. My dad was a cheater too. He did you a favor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:06 PM Flag
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Re-read. He left her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:59 PM Flag
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OP: If DH is a dog you should have known it before getting married. They are easy to spot. If you neglected your marriage and he went to an affair you bear some responsibility for that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:01 PM Flag
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np: ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:37 PM Flag
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I was married for 25 years. When you are married that long, get back to me. In the meant time, stfu. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:14 AM Flag
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OP: Do any of the above apply? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:18 AM Flag
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ITD...think about someone with narcissism or sociopathic tendencies, they know how to charm, manipulate, lie etc to put that false self forward. OP you live in a very simplistic world. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 12:29 AM Flag
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are you Brandi Glanville? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 10:01 PM Flag
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OP: LOL, no. You should ask the above poster calling me a POS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 10:12 PM Flag
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Miserable people stay miserable. I know plenty of women that are much happier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:44 PM Flag
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you realize this is a contradiction? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:46 PM Flag
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No. Some people just want to be miserable and will be miserable in any situation. Some people move out of a miserable situation and find happiness because they want to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:55 PM Flag
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Single moms are miserable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:47 PM Flag
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before or after becoming single? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:50 PM Flag
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after [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:47 AM Flag
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Speak for yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:55 PM Flag
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I'm married. We have had our ups and downs but in total a good marriage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:54 AM Flag
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this too is offensive [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:08 PM Flag
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OP: I find it so funny that people have such a high expectation to be happy all the time. If you subject your DC to a divorce so you can eat pray love and find yourself you are a selfish self involved idiot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:57 PM Flag
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Better for DC to grow up in a miserable household where your parents go three rounds every night an slam doors and carry on? I had both and was much happier when my parents divorced. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:03 PM Flag
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This, this, and this [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:00 PM Flag
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op; thank you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:26 AM Flag
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I dunno - growing up with parents who are miserable and screaming at each other is no picnic either. I get what you're saying, I really do, but for YEARS I growing up I wished my parents would get a divorce. I knew plenty of kids who went back and forth between houses and I realize that it's hard sometimes, but I think it is sometimes better than the kids whole environment being chaotic and angry all the time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:50 PM Flag
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Maybe your parents would have been better served with counselling or help to get along/communicate better. Why rush to divorce? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:51 PM Flag
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Oh they tried - couple & individual. I am guessing that most couples don't "rush to divorce", but I'm sure there those who do. My parents did actually eventually divorce when I was in my 20s. One parent remarried, the other didn't. They are both so much happier now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:03 PM Flag
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I am feeling this way. How long are we going to subject the kids to our arguments. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:07 PM Flag
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OP: If youre posting this you have enough awareness to stop it. Just stop arguing. It takes 2 to tango. your kids dont need to hear it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 10:18 PM Flag
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OP: was one of them alcoholic? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:06 PM Flag
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No - mom was deeply unhappy and depressed (and I have personally diagnosed her as having borderline personality disorder, but that's just my take...) I am pretty sure the reason my dad stayed was actually to protect us from her and I love and respect him for doing that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:13 PM Flag
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OP here: I should revise my original post to include mental illness. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:14 PM Flag
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NP: What about committing felonies or murder? Bigamy? Conversion to Scientology? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:20 PM Flag
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OP: Good points. I was thinking along the lines of common situations. The above scenarios are so devastating,the family is doomed either way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:26 PM Flag
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Or becoming a Republican? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 05:47 PM Flag
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Np: this. Had the same experience growing up. Have awful anxiety now and keep getting myself into awful, emotionally abusive relationships. I'm in counseling now and it's much better, but I think my parents staying together gave my siblings and I plenty of issues. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 09:32 PM Flag
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thank you for bringing this up! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 07:44 PM Flag
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ITA aside from addiction, I do not consider that grounds for divorce. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:51 PM Flag
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How about when one of the spouses is gay? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:59 PM Flag
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turned gay? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 08:58 PM Flag
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No, just previously in the closet. Happened with my parents. BTW, as a child of divorced parents, I don't really see the big deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:01 PM Flag
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OP how old were you when they divorced. Did you have to endure shared custody? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:03 PM Flag
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7. No, this was the bad old days when one of the parents would actually pick up and move 2000 miles away. I saw my dad twice a year. Was not ideal, I think I would have preferred shared custody, but regardless I don't feel like my childhood was particularly awful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:08 PM Flag
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again: no one "turns gay." It just doesn't happen. Sometimes I wish we could have sex ed day on UB. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:27 PM Flag
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OP: Rare situation I may stay together while kids are little. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:29 PM Flag
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I dunno if they truly "have it harder," but two friends of mine who are divorced sure love complaining about it. I don't doubt they work doubly hard when they have their kids, but when they don't - the fun abounds - dates, travel, socializing, the works. SMH. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:06 PM Flag
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divorced moms have it so much worse than who exactly? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:14 PM Flag
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Miserable married moms, apparently. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:18 PM Flag
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Yes miserable married women with douchebag husbands. Sounds lovely. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:25 PM Flag
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OP: Married moms are not miserable. Many have great marriages and many did not throw in the towel at first crisis. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:36 AM Flag
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Be careful who you marry. Once a cheater always a cheater. Newsflash: If you lost interest in sex doesn't mean DH did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:41 PM Flag
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The most important thing is NOT to marry someone because you're desperate or you think he/she will change. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:44 PM Flag
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OP: Thank you. Do your damage control on the front end. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 09:45 PM Flag
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PSA: This statement is total bullshit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 10:08 PM Flag
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why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.31.13, 10:11 PM Flag
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Np- I left DH and when I read her post Ithought OP was judgemental, but actually realize dh was drug addict, mental disorder and alcohlic. So I pass!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 01:24 AM Flag
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OP: Good for you! How are you now? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:23 AM Flag
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Much better than when he was here. He has gotten only worse. When we saw a therapist 6 years ago, she told me to get out and save your kids. I tried to fix the situation, live with it for the sake that my kids have a dad etc and finally gave up. They are in a better place emotionally than when he was here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:17 AM Flag
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Good for you. I'm a therapist and IRL I have to lead my patients to reach their own conclusions. I wish I could jusk kick them in the rear sometimes but it wouldn't help them (me yes). Countertransference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:51 AM Flag
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i think therapy would be a lot more effective if people were more hand on, instead of this "find your own way" baloney. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 07:03 AM Flag
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Honestly, I wish a therapist would give some advice sometimes instead of just sitting and listening. Feedback is helpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:15 PM Flag
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The 'finding your way is an important process of working through resistance. People have many defenses that shield them from unpleasant feelings and realizations. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:36 PM Flag
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I'm a therapist as well, although more DBT than dynamic. I've let my clients know I will support them in any way they need, but have pointed out in direct language regarding an abusive situation, partner with a personality disorder, etc. I think I owe them that much... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 12:29 AM Flag
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LOL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:23 AM Flag
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WTF, why did my comments get deleted in this thread? Anyone else? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 01:45 AM Flag
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Maybe you were drunk typing??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 03:22 AM Flag
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Hmm, I just noticed that I had a comment on this thread disappear, too. Strange. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 04:12 AM Flag
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My parents divorced when I was 18 and I always knew something was off, definitely not a happy home. It was very stressful growing up with so much tension. Then a nasty 4 yr court battle and it was really miserable. I am in the final stages of divorcing my narcissist, verbally abusive, substance abusing soon to be ex. Kids are 4 and 7. He's been in individual therapy for 3 yrs plus psych meds, we did many months and several months of couples therapy but ultimately I decided that I was sick of suffering for years on end and I deserved better even if that meant being alone. I also felt that the damage being done to my kids by witnessing their mom being verbally abused was having a real and negative impact on my relationship with them. Being a single parent is not an easy road at all and it's hard missing out time with my kids but I am content, peaceful and finally feel some relief after years of hell. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 09:02 PM Flag
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When did you realize something was wrong with him? What was he like when you were dating, getting married? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 09:11 PM Flag
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He dabbled in substances when we were dating but was overall very nice towards me until a few years after we were married. Typical narcissist strategy--reel you in then show the true colors. In hindsight I should have realized something was off when his mom warned me right before our wedding that he had been a bachelor for a long time. Young, naive, stupid, but I'm wiser today and he is actually a good dad (mostly). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 10:39 PM Flag
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Hey OP, wdyt of this? Dh cheated by paying for sex and a therapist has labeled some of his behaviors Subsequent as emotionally abusive. He confronted her about it though and she said he wasn't an "abuser" per se but Some of his behaviors weren't ok. In trying to make things work and be a good Mom I walk around like a Zombie half the time. I am short tempered at times and have yelled at dcs when I should have just Been patient. I do take care of myself and do things to boost my confidence- but a part of me will Always resent him and feel trapped and think I could have done better. This may not come through all The time, but there is no way I will love him going forward in a way that isn't slightly crippled By my experience. Is this divorce worthy or no? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 11:10 PM Flag
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Hey OP, wdyt of this? Dh cheated by paying for sex and a therapist has labeled some of his behaviors Subsequent as emotionally abusive. He confronted her about it though and she said he wasn't an "abuser" per se but Some of his behaviors weren't ok. In trying to make things work and be a good Mom I walk around like a Zombie half the time. I am short tempered at times and have yelled at dcs when I should have just Been patient. I do take care of myself and do things to boost my confidence- but a part of me will Always resent him and feel trapped and think I could have done better. This may not come through all The time, but there is no way I will love him going forward in a way that isn't slightly crippled By my experience. Is this divorce worthy or no? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.01.13, 11:10 PM Flag
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I can not believe how dumb you sound OP. you are obviously jealous of others and you have to spread your bitterness all over so that you can make yourself feel better. You come across as uneducated, judgmental, racist against other lifestyles and just a plain miserable nobody. You have no idea what women may go through when they are deciding whether or not to get a divorce. It's not something that you wake up one day and decide. For the record, my parents divorced when I was a teenager. My sister and I are happy they did. It ended the fighting, yelling and a stressful home life. We would rather have been inconvenienced by switching houses ( oooo, such a horrible half-hour experience....puhhhleeze) than living in that. So instead of just making blanket statements, of which there are OTHER opinions than yours, why don't you just let women do what they feel is necessary for THEIR family. Obviously you are clueless. Did you actually take any communication or child psychology classes at college? Or did you not even go? You are vile. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 03:00 AM Flag
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Finally, someone with some fightin' words. I think OP is probably married to a guy who loathes her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 03:09 AM Flag
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lol haave fun in your shitty marriage where your Dh can call you a bitch, drink to excess, lie and cheat. Fun times! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 03:08 AM Flag
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The day my parents divorced is on the childhood best lists - our lives all got better afterwards [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 04:24 AM Flag
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Me as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 05:15 AM Flag
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Were you referring to OP or PP? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.02.13, 05:14 AM Flag
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