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No one should be getting a tax increase and there should be billions in cuts.
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01.01.13, 08:06 PM
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taxes are lower than at nearly any time in history. Educate yourself. You should be paying more in taxes.
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01.01.13, 08:25 PM
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And that's apropos of what?
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01.01.13, 08:28 PM
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of the sentence "No one should be getting a tax increase and there should be billions in cuts."
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01.01.13, 08:44 PM
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Doesn't mean "you should be paying more in taxes."
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01.01.13, 08:45 PM
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01.01.13, 09:17 PM
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well if you're going to pay for the two wars and overseas empire that you so desire, then yes, you should be paying more in taxes.
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01.01.13, 10:25 PM
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Yep. Too poor: move.
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01.01.13, 11:41 PM
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Move out of NYC then, if you can't afford it.
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01.01.13, 08:04 PM
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Hellllllllloooooo Jersey!
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01.01.13, 09:01 PM
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I'd say $450K is pretty rich living, even in NY
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01.01.13, 08:07 PM
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It's not.
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01.01.13, 08:06 PM
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ridiculous
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01.01.13, 08:10 PM
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This is just a silly argument. People can define "rich" however they want. However, can you live on $450K anywhere in the US and have everything you need, plus pretty much everything you want at a standard that's, like, 2x better than what the average person has? Yes. If you want to be someone with 5 or 10x better than what the average person has, sorry, I hope they tax the living daylights out of you.
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01.01.13, 08:11 PM
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But you won't become financially secure with major savings that let you retire at 50.
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01.01.13, 08:14 PM
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Oh, OK, I forgot the constitution ensured the right of retirement at 50 for all americans. My bad.
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01.01.13, 08:19 PM
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And 40k a year for private school, sleep away camp, and a country house.
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01.01.13, 08:30 PM
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Don't forget ski vacations, summers in Europe and full time help.
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01.01.13, 08:37 PM
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And 3 DC and nanny.
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01.01.13, 10:19 PM
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Lol. Like.
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01.02.13, 06:04 AM
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Most people who make 450 work one hell of a lot harder than those who have incomes of 45k. Fact. And they've generally invested heavily in education.
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01.01.13, 08:20 PM
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Utterly ridiculous. How many people do you know who have incomes of 45K?
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01.01.13, 08:21 PM
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+1 and I'm in the $450+ camp. I'd actually go the other way and say that people making $45 are likely working 40hrs of sometimes hard manual labor. $450 is likely 60hrs of sometimes mentally challenging work. The marginal return on effort by $450 v $45 earner is so outrageous that there really is no comparison.
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01.01.13, 08:24 PM
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01.01.13, 08:36 PM
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01.01.13, 10:20 PM
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Most of the people I know making $45 or under work more than 40 hrs a week, and sometimes night shifts as well.
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01.01.13, 08:37 PM
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Indeed
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01.02.13, 12:04 AM
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A lot of people with incomes of 45k are in unions and don't work more than 40 hours a week. Someone making 450 isn't working a 40 hour week--not even close.
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01.01.13, 08:24 PM
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Your right, they often work less. Earning money off your trust takes soo much time.
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01.01.13, 08:27 PM
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Many are. People in insurance. My BIL. Works hard when there, but rarely more than 9 - 5 or 6. Makes in neighborhood of 600k.
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01.01.13, 08:31 PM
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See above. Do you truly not understand relative effort v reward of most people making 45 v 450. The lower wage earner is working much harder for their $ than the higher earner who happens to work 15 hrs more per week
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01.01.13, 08:37 PM
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15?! LOL. Try 40 or 50 extra if in big law or associate in IB.
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01.01.13, 08:45 PM
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I'm in biglaw 100 hour weeks is a laughable exaggeration. Maybe every once in a great while as a young associate but certainly not anywhere near the norm. Same w IB - yes for the 22yo. No the MDs
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01.01.13, 08:55 PM
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We make 450k and neither of us works more than 45 hours per week, and we both work from home! Try again.
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01.01.13, 09:12 PM
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you make 450 each? or 225 each?
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01.02.13, 09:14 AM
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Not utterly ridiculous. Individuals from all walks of life make decisions that shape their futures. I came from a broken family that was very poor and chose to work hard and make good decisions to rise above that life. I went to an ivy league school and worked my ass off to for the best future possible. While other partied and made poor choices I made many personal sacrifices, and now i am making much much more money than anyone I know. 450K is not a lot in NYC, and for those of us working in finance leaving the city isn't an option.
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01.02.13, 02:45 AM
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You obviously have never done manual labor or worked two jobs both involving manual labor to earn less than 45k. Those who make more do not work harder. Hardest job I ever had was waiting tables.
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01.01.13, 08:26 PM
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Is this what your DH tells you? Sooo naive.
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01.01.13, 08:26 PM
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Actually, many people at 45k pay ZERO fed tax--which is ridiculous. Everyone should contribute.
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01.01.13, 08:30 PM
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Nice try. OR said working hard, nothing about taxes. Who pays is not the decision of the worker. Regardless, it's the same people making 450k plus who pay their help less than 45k off the books and don't pay benefits or overtime. What hypocrites.
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01.01.13, 08:36 PM
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np lol. Nannies are TOTALLY complicit in this and often insist on being paid off the books--so they can get food stamps, WIC, Medicaid, etc.
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01.01.13, 08:39 PM
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And here we come to the real issue. You resent how much you pay your nanny and she is your "strawman" for the $45k earner.
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01.01.13, 08:45 PM
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I don't have a nanny. But everyone I know who has one pays off the books. And UBers with nannies insist nannies "refuse" to be paid on the books.
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01.01.13, 08:46 PM
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I pay on the books
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01.01.13, 08:50 PM
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ex nanny here: I couldn't find a family willing to pay me on the books. I paid my own (self-employed).
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The market is set by a rate that is off-books. Nannies do refuse to net less than that so that the employer can pay the same out of pocket and deduct taxes. You'd probably be hard pressed to find a nanny who would reuse to accept if employer would gross them up so that they netted the same.
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01.01.13, 09:05 PM
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Which they need because their salaries don't permit them to afford food or health care.
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01.01.13, 08:45 PM
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A nanny on 30 or 40 k can afford food and cheap health ins.
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01.01.13, 08:50 PM
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In New York? No, sorry, not unless she's got other income from a spouse or other family member and has no kids.
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01.01.13, 08:53 PM
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And who is the employer who makes the decision to pay off the books? Yes, the nannies benefit but only because the employer allows it for their own benefit.
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01.01.13, 08:47 PM
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what? where are you hearing this? of course people who make 45k pay federal taxes.
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01.01.13, 08:48 PM
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lol. Close to 50% of the pop pays NO fed tax. Look it up.
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01.01.13, 08:51 PM
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single person with $45k salary pays 25% tax rate, married 15%. My first jobs out of college (grad '03) paid $27-$48k and I always paid federal taxes.
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01.01.13, 09:08 PM
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np sorry, but it is YOU who should be looking it up. you're totally delusional about who is paying what.
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01.01.13, 10:26 PM
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NP: since you either can't face the fact that what she is saying is true, or you are completely inept at finding legitimate data points, I will help you out here. 46% of the population pays no federal tax. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/federal-taxes-households.cfm
I also love these stats that show the sad reality that the top earners pay FAR FAR MORE than their fair share.
http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html
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01.02.13, 02:53 AM
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Hi, Mitt Romney
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01.02.13, 07:28 PM
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Probably not true, and in any case they pay payroll taxes.
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01.01.13, 10:23 PM
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hey idiot guess what--payroll taxes aren't real taxes, they are part of a program you pay into are paid back from in the future.
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01.02.13, 02:57 AM
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People at $45K (unless they are off the books) pay Federal taxes. What you are thinking of (and wrong anyway) is that people at the lower income levels pay no INCOME taxes.
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01.02.13, 01:16 AM
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Clearly many people here have no concept of adjusted gross income. It is very feasible to make $45K and have an adjusted gross income below the threshold where federal income taxes are paid.
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01.02.13, 10:58 PM
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np--The federal income tax chart goes very low (below $100). It's allowable tax credits that offset the taxes owed.
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01.03.13, 01:15 AM
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They pay zero taxes because they don't make enough to survive on! You have to factor in how many childen they are supporting and the cost of health care. 45k is not much.
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01.02.13, 09:44 AM
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Fact? You don't know the meaning of the word. How are you defining "hard"? Who did you poll? How did you research this "fact"?
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01.01.13, 08:30 PM
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I make around 45 as a social worker and my job is HARD. Extremely emotionally taxing. I am sure people get stressed out working in finance but my client's lives are literally on the line at times. Not to mention lower wage earners who have repetitive jobs with little say and often physical labor. Earning more does not mean you are working harder. This is a myth you are telling yourself to justify your wealth.
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01.01.13, 08:47 PM
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How many hours a week? Do you take your vacation? The "rich" generally don't.
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01.01.13, 08:51 PM
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np: the rich people I know take a couple vacations per year & really nice ones to great places (Europe, Virgin Islands, Costa Rica, etc). My 45k friends with little kids might take a road trip to a new city every couple of years. Maybe that will change as the kids get older though. My single friends making 45k travel quite a bit but so do my single friends making 6 figures.
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01.01.13, 09:16 PM
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np; ITA! This is something that UBers don't want to understand. I can even see the disparity in my own career. When I was starting out at 22, I worked 70 hours per week and busted my rump. Now that I'm more senior, I work about 45 hours and most of them are from home. I make 250k on average, and that is more than enough for me.
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01.01.13, 09:15 PM
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This is the biggest piece of crap i have ever heard.
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01.01.13, 08:49 PM
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Keep telling yourself that if you must, but you are absolutely wrong.
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01.02.13, 12:03 AM
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That is bullshit.
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01.02.13, 09:42 AM
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THIS^
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01.02.13, 09:42 AM
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Get a clue!
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01.02.13, 12:00 AM
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np. This attitude doesn't surprise me, unfortunately. These days most people seem to have such a massive sense of entitlement, they feel deprived if they're not living a millionaire's lifestyle. With that mindset, of course it seems like $450k a year for a family in NYC is hardly getting by.
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01.02.13, 01:17 AM
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I would never say that 450K is hardly getting by and would say, this is a quite nice and comfortable lifestyle, but it definitely is not a millionaire lifestyle. As far as getting deprived, depends on a person, some people do feel this way, while plenty don't. Some people feel disgruntled with incomes north of 1 mil, while others are happy on 300K a year. But the fact is, those earning 450K are not rich and would not afford millionaire lifestyles, whether they resent this fact or not, is not the point here. They could be happy, but this doesn't make them rich financially.
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01.02.13, 07:34 PM
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lol. Right. So leave it to the people in the projects (the beneficiaries of Obama's "generosity" and the super rich). Sounds like a great plan.
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01.01.13, 08:10 PM
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ridiculous
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01.01.13, 08:30 PM
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If you think the 450k crowd should ship out, the is exactly what you'll get.
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01.01.13, 08:34 PM
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That will never happen.
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01.01.13, 08:44 PM
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Sure. Move to France where they pay 50% then.
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01.02.13, 06:10 AM
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It is. These women are nutzo.
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01.01.13, 08:11 PM
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01.01.13, 08:25 PM
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Ha. It's enough. If you choose to live in such a city and such a way that it doesn't seem very well off (private schools, country houses), then that's your choice.
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01.01.13, 08:19 PM
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People who did not study hard in school and working 45k job also made that their choice.
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01.01.13, 08:32 PM
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01.01.13, 08:34 PM
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1. Are you seriously so sheltered that you believe people "choose" to make an average, as opposed to an extraordinarily high, salary by simply not studying as hard as others? 2. The poster's point was that people who make $450k can choose to live anywhere they want, so if they choose to live in one of the most expensive cities on earth, they shouldn't complain about the cost of living.
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01.01.13, 08:35 PM
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+1000
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01.01.13, 08:44 PM
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Are you so stupid to believe that pure luck gets most people to where they are?
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01.02.13, 03:05 AM
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Are you so stupid to believe that is what her post said? No, it's not.
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01.02.13, 06:13 AM
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People who make 450K often cannot choose to live anywhere they want, because such salaries are not available in low COL places in the first place, in their vast majority such high earners are concentrated in areas of high COL, like NYC, Bay Area, DC metro, Boston, etc. That is what makes these places so expensive in the first place. Unless you work for yourself, or you work remotely 100% you cannot just pack and move and expect to make the same type of salary elsewhere.
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01.02.13, 07:56 PM
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It's not a level playing field. Not even close. But, anyway, that's not the issue -- it's about how we can have a functioning society with bridges, roads, schools educating the workers of the future, etc. Those who have way more than they need give more.
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01.01.13, 08:42 PM
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np But it's ridiculous that so many people take way, way more than they give. Your last sentence sounds remarkably Marxist, by the way. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
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01.01.13, 08:50 PM
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you think that you live in a society of equality of opportunity and the cream rises to the top. you think you are superior and deserve what you have but your very comments show an intense lack of observational and critical thinking skills. do you have any understanding of economics, history, sociology, anything? you are a fool.
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01.01.13, 10:23 PM
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With 1 dc you can afford private school and still have money to go on vacations, eat out, afford summer camp...
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01.01.13, 09:15 PM
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With a $45K income can you afford $38K tuition, or even $4500 tuition with FA?
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01.01.13, 10:27 PM
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I think 250k is very low but 450k is fair. You are comfortable in nyc at that salary. not rich, but comfortable.
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01.01.13, 10:11 PM
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I agree...depends on how you spend it and what you "must" have to live your life.
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01.02.13, 01:25 AM
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It's not rich in NYC, but it is certainly UMC which means a tax increase is easily affordable. Get over the semantics.
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01.01.13, 08:37 PM
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Yes. Defined by what you have to give up - if anything - to afford it areluxuries and not necessities
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01.01.13, 08:40 PM
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OK. But acrylic nails with decals are a "luxury" and yet those who have them get a tax cut. Interesting.
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01.01.13, 08:42 PM
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I was talking about real luxuries and not equivalent of a regular Starbucks, but if you want to use that as your standard, then it's even less if an issue for the $450ker
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01.01.13, 08:50 PM
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Come on, it is pretty well-to-do. The increase is only on the amount over $450k. It is a good compromise in my opinion.
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01.01.13, 08:51 PM
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$450K is not rich in Beverly Hills either. So what's your point?
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01.01.13, 09:00 PM
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Suckers choose to live in the city. Even multi millionaires.
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01.01.13, 09:14 PM
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Where do you live, smarty-pants?
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01.02.13, 07:58 PM
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these are such stupid conversations. I YAWN when I read OP and ignore everything below it.
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01.01.13, 10:05 PM
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When we had that income, we felt loaded. But we also didn't blow $10K a month on rent like a lot of people on this board. Now we're at less than half that income and still feel OK. If you can't live well on $450K, you're not trying.
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01.01.13, 10:15 PM
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Well put...450k is not chopped liver.
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01.02.13, 01:27 AM
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then fucking move.
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01.01.13, 10:23 PM
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These comments about moving make me so angry. The people who make these high incomes are what make this city run. The city would crumble without our tax dollars to support all of the takers.
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01.02.13, 03:10 AM
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Fine, but they don't need to whine about how poor they think they are. If they actually moved they might feel richer.
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01.02.13, 03:45 AM
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Do you really think that salaries of 450K or even 200K are so easy to come by in other cities? Not easy even in NYC.
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01.02.13, 04:57 PM
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So leave NYC. As in, move.
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01.01.13, 11:44 PM
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If you can not see that living on $450k is not rich living in NYC or anywhere else, your perspective is warped. Get.a.grip.
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01.02.13, 12:31 AM
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450K can get you a nice lifestyle in Manhattan, given that your rent is no more than 6K, and you send your kids to a public school. You can have a full time nanny, a weekly housekeeper, nice vacations, nice savings and even afford a garage for your car. So, not a bad life, it is a solidly UMC lifestyle even in Manhattan. Rich has many layers and the sky is the limit, but honestly, 450K is not rich. Rich lifestyle means you don't work for a living, you have your money work for you, plus, in Manhattan rich are those who own nice large apartments or townhomes, have full time maids, nannies and even drivers, have at least one but fairly lavish vacation home (not a cabin in the woods, or a beachfront condo), vacation at expensive resorts and fly first class, kids go to private schools, etc.
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01.02.13, 05:06 PM
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I make 150 - single mom with 1 dc and I agree that 450 is not rich especially if you have 2 dcs - private tuition, childcare, and a 3 bed rental apt in Manhattan.
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I make 250K per year, my husband is at about 500K. After federal and state taxes, my income will be about cut in half. Of that 120K, we pay 45K to a nanny, which leaves us with 80K net. I will probably quit after receiving my bonus for 2012 because to be quite honest, that money is not worth my time. We will be firing our nanny (who is the sole provider for her family), and as a formerly productive member of society dropping out of the workforce. This is why increased tax rates don't equate with increased tax revenues. The government just lost about 120K from my family and another family that we supported will be unemployed. Good job Obama!!!!!!
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01.02.13, 03:03 AM
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Enough is NEVER enough in NYC. 80k is a ton of money and more than worth it to stay at a job. Sounds like you just don't like your job and are looking for a way out.
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01.02.13, 03:41 AM
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Sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about. 80K is peanuts and less than what i made my first year out of college. I like my job, but for the amount of time I spend working, 80K is NOT worth my time.
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01.02.13, 04:12 AM
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Then thankfully your job may o to someone who appreciates it.
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01.02.13, 04:30 AM
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Just be honest with yourself, taxes don't have much to do with your decision, it is just the straw that breaks the camel's back. The real reason for your decision is that you are disgruntled that you overall earn less now than before you had kids, right? So, you were thinking it was not worth it for you to work anymore and use tax increase as an excuse.
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01.02.13, 04:39 PM
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Not only that, but you also realize your DH makes a lot of money and can support the family. If tax increase really were to eat into your savings that much, then you would not be able to actually afford to quit your job.
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01.02.13, 04:43 PM
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huh, that is my salary. i feel it is worth my time.
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01.03.13, 01:23 AM
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Do you listen to yourself? You are expecting sympathy?!?
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01.02.13, 04:28 AM
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No i'm not expecting sympathy at all. I'm simply describing my situation and explaining that there is a ripple effect in the economy because of people like me. You can tax high earners but everyone will end up feeling the negative effect.
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01.02.13, 04:41 AM
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The high earning positions aren't going anywhere. As long as there are bodies to fill the roles (and there are!) then it doesn't really make a difference whether you personally stay or go. Your ripple effect theory has way too many holes.
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01.02.13, 06:26 AM
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Do you listen to yourself? You are expecting sympathy?!?
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01.02.13, 04:27 AM
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Um, actually your company will just replace you so the government isn't going to lose any money on you at all. And your replacement will probably have a nanny to pay for as well. Although you sound really whiny so I have a hunch that you are going to be one of those SAHMs who still has a nanny.
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01.02.13, 06:21 AM
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Hey, I'll take her job! I would sure as hell love to make 250K a year and would find it very much worth it even with the nanny cost. 80K a year savings after taxes and nanny's salary, that would be niiiiice :)
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01.02.13, 04:45 PM
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You don't sound smart enough to make $250K. First off, half of 250 is 125, not 120. Second, to keep it in perspective, why wouldn't you subtract nanny's salary from husband's pay of $500K? You are taking home $125K. If that is not enough for you to justify getting out of bed in the morning, then that's your issue.
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01.02.13, 06:23 AM
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haha
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01.03.13, 12:45 AM
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Thanks for the math lesson! Ivy league degree here and if you read my post i wrote "about cut in half"-I'm using rough numbers not exact. And the reason i wouldn't take the nanny's salary out of my husband's is because the trade off is ME working, not him. He will work either way. YOU are the one that sounds not so smart. LOL, I bet I'm at least 10 years younger and a hell of a lot hotter than you as well.
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01.03.13, 02:30 AM
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np: I agree with women above...had salary of $200k and left workforce. Not worth time/effort and other costs after taxes, plus I traveled and missed out on much the kids did.
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01.02.13, 12:14 PM
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Well, if you quit, your employer will hire someone else in your place, pay salary that it paid to you before, and hopefully, that person will be able to hire your nanny. Or your nanny will find a job working for another family. It will work out. You will, however, remain an ungrateful entitled rich brat.
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01.02.13, 01:32 PM
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+1
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01.02.13, 04:46 PM
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FYI in general when you get to the 250K + income range--the positions aren't so easy to fill. That is why they make 250K in the first place. Supply and demand. There is a reason you make much less.
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01.03.13, 02:37 AM
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Your DH is making 500K, more than enough for two of you. Believe me there are tons of women out there who go to work for a lot less and still pay for a nanny the same amount as you are paying and who don't have DHs who earn this much. These people will also be hit with tax increases and it will hit them a lot harder and these women don't have options of quitting their jobs.
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01.02.13, 04:44 PM
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i realized that. so many nannies will be losing their jobs because the obama tax increases to those in the $200-$300 range (esp couples) are going to make it so that it won't make sense to hire a nanny. the carribean better watch out! looks like they'll have a wave of ex=pats coming home!
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01.03.13, 01:40 AM
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Oh come on. First of all, these are marginal tax rates so I doubt you pay half in taxes. We make a little over 1 mm a year and have no real deductions. You know what our current tax rate is - adding federal, state and local, social secuity, etc. 41 percent! Second, 80k is a lot of money - it pays two private school tuitions, or lets you save for college/ retirement. You make 750k a year or 375k after taxes (as you claim) and claim 80k doesn't matter? It is more than 1/4 of your take home.
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01.03.13, 01:51 AM
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Okay Ms. Laffer, I am not happy about tax increases either, but this line of reasoning is flawed. Assuming there is a less-employed or unemployed person to do your job, they may get your salary and spend that money on nannies, food, etc etc. Second, don't forget that if no one is hired to do your job, your company's pre-tax earnings go up, increasing taxable revenue
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01.03.13, 02:15 AM
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I love your perspective
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02.01.13, 02:22 AM
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I make $350k and I am plenty UMC. Get over yourself.
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01.02.13, 04:45 PM
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The tax brackets make no sense, because they set the highest boundary too low, thereby ignoring the truly rich and punishing those who actually work for a living and are essentially just better compensated working class, salarymen and small business owners, those, who in their vast majority will never break that glass ceiling to true riches and having their money not their life-hours work for them. The problem is not that the UMCs are not paying enough, it's because the billionaires and those earning millions a year don't pay enough. Get extra 5% from super rich on their capital gains and you'll be set.
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01.02.13, 04:55 PM
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I'd like to see both increases and cuts, 1 for 1. We can then close the deficit twice as fast. Both parties would have to give "equally" - you want 100 in new revenue, you need to show 100 in cuts, resulting in 200 off the deficit! I'd like us shift away from income tax and more to VAT or consumption taxes, especially on products with large negative externalities (guns, etc).
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01.02.13, 10:48 PM
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doesn't matter, those making $200-$250 will also be facing massive tax increases and cuts to deductions, so everyone living in this fantasy that "the rich" are somebody else. get ready. you voted for obama. good luck to you. they will all be whining by the end of the year and trying to blame the republicans for their mess. the only thing worse than an idiot, is a self-serving idiot who can't take responsibility for his choices.
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01.03.13, 01:38 AM
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So true!!!!
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01.03.13, 02:38 AM
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