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12.06.12, 15:30 PM General Topics
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Dear UB -- whether you are a lawyer, a doctor, a real estate broker, a nanny, a cleaning lady, somebody who works in retail, a restauranteur, a taxi driver, a wealth manager, an employee of a non-profit, a teacher, a cop, or a firefighter... MY FAMILY IS THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU. Last year, we paid NEARLY ONE MILLION DOLLARS in NYC and NY State taxes. DH's fund could have been located in NJ like Appaloosa, or in Connecticut like SAC, but we are located in NYC. Nearly 100 people have jobs in NYC because of that decision. I'm not asking for a ticker tape parade, or even for gratitude. But the least you can do is stop blaming us for every financial shortfall with complaints that we are not "paying our fair share." [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:30 PM Flag
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So basically, DH made the money and paid the taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:30 PM Flag
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Lol. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:33 PM Flag
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If you really are the hand that feeds, then someone should bite it off. What are you going to do? Stop feeding me? Oh, I double dog, triple dare you. Go ahead, make my day. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 09:50 AM Flag
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DH made the money, paid 1 million in taxes (so how many millions exactly did he make last year?), and still his wife has Nothing better to do with her time than come on UB to complain about paying taxes. I mean come ON! Clearly extreme wealth does not bring You happiness! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:39 PM Flag
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THIS THIS THIS [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:42 PM Flag
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What does posting on UB have anything to do with happiness? Maybe she happens to be in the office and is bored. Of course it is annoying when people blame you for their problems and she's setting the record clear from her perspective. Regardless of how much money you have or how happy you are, that is perfectly reasonable. But keep hating. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:46 PM Flag
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np; not for nothing but she did not complain about paying taxes. She complained about people CLAIMING they didn't pay taxes. Big difference. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:16 PM Flag
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This is op WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 02:11 AM Flag
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Can I get an "Amen"! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:57 PM Flag
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I agree. By the way, doctors and lawyers also pay through the nose in taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:31 PM Flag
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doctor here. after all is said and done, I come home with 50% of my gross. sucks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:33 PM Flag
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Yeah, the leftovers are not enough for a decent living, right? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:10 PM Flag
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Tax partner here - everyone who lives in NY comes home with about 50% of their salary - Get over it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:14 PM Flag
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The difference is, your 50% is 10 X that of the doctor's [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 11:29 PM Flag
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Oh get over yourself. If you don't like it become a nurse and give all your money away. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:32 PM Flag
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alrightly then [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:34 PM Flag
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Yawn [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:33 PM Flag
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I agree. Zzzzzzzzzz [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:57 PM Flag
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all of us pay taxes. We all support the city and inturn the city supports us. If you feel you are doing more than your fair share then you can always leave...right? ( not being bitchy but isn't that the fact?) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:33 PM Flag
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NP: That's kind of OP's point. A lot of people have left. Not just here, moving out of state, but in Europe as well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:39 PM Flag
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A lot may have left, but there are still more than enough businesses and people here. If it were better for OP's DH's fund to leave NYC, believe me, they would have done so. Clearly they are getting something good out of staying in manhattan. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:42 PM Flag
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OP: Capital goes where it is treated well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:45 PM Flag
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NNP: They stay in NYC because it makes business or lifestyle sense for them. Not out of deep desire to contribute to the tax base of the city. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:45 PM Flag
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Nonsense. Businesses don't just pick up and move because of paying a little more here and a little less there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:10 PM Flag
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Actually, no. A lot of lower HHI families do not pay taxes at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:17 PM Flag
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True. Those are the ones earning about $15k. You should trade with them so you don't have to pay 1 million in taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:31 PM Flag
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And I'm sure that your DH and his fund are super-proud of how you are using your time right now. Klassy. I wouldn't recommend using the phrase "My family is the hand that feeds you" as your DH's fund's motto, however. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:33 PM Flag
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Move to Grand Catman or something, we'll all survive without you and your dumb attitude. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:34 PM Flag
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^^^Cayman [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:34 PM Flag
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Grand Catman sounds kind of awesome. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:51 PM Flag
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Meow! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:41 PM Flag
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That was the only lol about this post. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 09:32 AM Flag
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Actually, any business that can afford to pay someone enough to owe $1M in taxes probably could employ a lot more than 100 people with virtually no real hardship on anyone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:33 PM Flag
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Bullshit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:39 PM Flag
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Yes! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:10 PM Flag
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OP: Yes, the private sector should be a welfare system, right? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:44 PM Flag
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In your original post, you are admitting as much. This is your justification for claiming to be above the criticism. You can't have it both ways - you're either benefitting society above and beyond meeting your basic needs, or you're not. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:52 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 01:47 AM Flag
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No, you should not have to pay taxes at all, your highness! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:58 PM Flag
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I'm a doctor. Thank you for feeding me! By hand and everything, wow! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:34 PM Flag
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Her chef is doing the cooking and her nanny will do the feeding,actually. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:46 PM Flag
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lol! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:58 PM Flag
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What's this "my family" and "we paid taxes" shit? Sounds like your DH is the one who did all of that; you just spent it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:35 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:25 PM Flag
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+2 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:51 PM Flag
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+3 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 06:56 PM Flag
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are you ruth madoff? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.09.12, 06:30 AM Flag
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Shouldn't you be out shorting an investment bank or something? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:34 PM Flag
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OP wouldn't break a nail to pour herself a cup of tea - puhlease. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:38 PM Flag
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REALLY?!?!?!?!?! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:39 PM Flag
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You're asking for it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:41 PM Flag
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Who is this "we", white woman? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:29 PM Flag
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wtf, huh? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:59 PM Flag
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Sounds like the fund is not doing well if they only owed $1M in taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:40 PM Flag
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OP: What can I say? My DH is just a partner, he's not Stevie Cohen. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:42 PM Flag
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Lucky for you. Sounds as if the net's closing around him... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:28 PM Flag
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+1000 says finance mom [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 04:04 AM Flag
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Excuse me, what? I'm a lawyer and your family doesn't feed me or any other damned lawyer in town unless they work for your husband's fund. We paid a f-ing boatload of taxes and we still do. And, anyway, I'm in Boston. So, you don't even feed people within a hundred miles of me. And, anyway, your husband has a fund. You sit on your fat, dumb nonsensical ass and spend his money. A vagina is not a talent or a job, sweetie. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:43 PM Flag
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Well put! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:46 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:00 PM Flag
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+1000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:29 PM Flag
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OP: Firms like Schulte exist because of us. Maybe not your firm directly, but between the Kasowitz matrimonial practice, and the Schulte hedge fund practice, the rich are critical to the profits of many Biglaw firms. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:42 PM Flag
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By us, you mean DH [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:39 PM Flag
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heh. I work at a criminal defense boutique. we fro sure exist partly because of people like you. thanks! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:14 PM Flag
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you're awesome. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:30 PM Flag
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my vagina is pretty talented [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:35 PM Flag
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Don't put down Op's vag. Dat mean! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:06 PM Flag
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+1000000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:52 PM Flag
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Wow. I'm an ex-hedgie mom myself, and this made even me snarf. Well played, OR, well played. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 01:47 AM Flag
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No. Your dh is the hand that feeds you. I work for my salary. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:43 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:44 PM Flag
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This! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:43 PM Flag
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Best line of the day. Take a look in the mirror, OP. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:44 PM Flag
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+ 100 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:30 PM Flag
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+10000000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:25 PM Flag
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ita [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:54 PM Flag
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OP: You have no clue what I did before deciding to SAH. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:45 PM Flag
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I'm assuming you were his call girl or his assistant at work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:07 PM Flag
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bwahahahaha [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:59 PM Flag
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Getting the MRS, of course. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:05 PM Flag
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God, you just reek of unhappiness. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:18 PM Flag
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If you did anything worthwhile we would have heard u brag already. You accomplished nothing but catch a wallet with your vagina. It must be very big...lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:12 PM Flag
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+100 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:34 PM Flag
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A million bucks and employment for a hundred people in a city of what, 8m? Yeah... That's not much. Settle down. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:44 PM Flag
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Spoken like someone who's never worked all year and found out that half of the year was "working for the government." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:45 PM Flag
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Wrong - attorney. I got it. Just don't think it's that much, sorry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:53 PM Flag
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ita [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:54 PM Flag
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Hmm I work for the city and I run a program that collects $5 million to the city's coffers annually. I guess you owe ME. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:45 PM Flag
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OP: I promise you, our tax money is somehow keeping the lights on for your department. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:41 PM Flag
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LMAO. You, single-handedly? In a city of $8 with over 400k city workers? BTW, DH is in finance so I don't need your petty contribution thank you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:11 PM Flag
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OP: You are so dense. Obviously I'm not speaking literally. I'm saying the taxes paid by the wealthy provide a huge amount of the funding for the city. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:06 PM Flag
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Ugh [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:00 PM Flag
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So do taxes by the UMC, MC, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 06:56 PM Flag
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Math: $5 M > $1 M [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:11 PM Flag
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Let's be clear, you live in NYC because you can't live without being close to the Bliss Spa or Per Se. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:46 PM Flag
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No no. They live here because they are altruistic and generous to others. It in now way benefits THEM! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:51 PM Flag
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OP: No, we're in NYC because the talent pool is deeper here. But every year, the partners talk about whether to relocate to Greenwich, and every year it is a close decision. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:40 PM Flag
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NP: stop saying "WE" unless you also work there. It's not your office. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:15 PM Flag
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Exactly. It's kind of hilarious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:32 PM Flag
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OP thinks she is an integral part of the firm [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:53 PM Flag
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Yet, you're still here, year after year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:05 PM Flag
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I get it. You would really be saving a lot by moving to Greenwich. That would be a tough one. They would maybe loose some of the single people, and many people would have to sell their apts and buy out there. The commute (even the reverse commute is a bitch). It's so nice in Greenwich, though. A much easier life with a great downtown. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:57 PM Flag
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I gotta hand it to you, you've got some nerve - and I really mean that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:48 PM Flag
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I'm a doctor. I (or colleagues like me) treat you and your wealthy husband when you are sick. Monitor your pregnancy and help deliver your babies. See your kids in the emergency room when they break their bones or spike a high fever. But you are still convinced that Yours is the hand that feeds me? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:48 PM Flag
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New poster here. It's GREAT for you to have rich patients. If you had only poor patients, you'd get a tiny cut of the price of care because Medicaid doesn't pay much. The abundance of rich patients in Manhattan enables all these doctors to refuse to accept insurance, because only rich patients can afford to pay $300 for an office visit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:51 PM Flag
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OR: Actually, you don't know what I do or who i treat AT All. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:52 PM Flag
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OP: Medicine is subsidized at all levels by the rich paying taxes and/or consuming services. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:40 PM Flag
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Everybody pays taxes, even poor, you asswipe! Not just the rich, we all subsidize and pay our fair share based on what we EARN. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:56 PM Flag
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OP: nearly half the country takes in services more than they pay in taxes. I'm not saying I would want to trade positions with them, however I am saying they should stop complaining that others are not paying enough. Everyone wants to eat, nobody wants to work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:07 PM Flag
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and that half includes senior citizens and people on disability. Lots of the "services" are things like ag subsidies and SSI. Do you want that life? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:20 PM Flag
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No, she already said she doesn't want to trade places with them. I hope you fall on your ass one day and you lose all your money at least temporarily and then you are made to live like the rest of the people who need assistance of some sort to get by. I want you so bad to experience this life before you open your fat obnoxious mouth again. I want you to live on what considered a median income in NYC (it's like what you spend on your spa visits probably). I want you to wake up in a crappy apartment somewhere in working class area of the outer borough or in a tenement housing authority building in Manhattan, then stand on your feet in an overcrowded subway train tightly sandwiched between strangers for over 30 min. Then get to your crappy service job where you will be treated like human garbage and stand on your feet some more or do some other unpleasant work you probably have never done in your life. Then take the same disgusting crowded train back to your depressing apartment and cook and clean for your family for the rest of the evening, then crush into an oblivion of exhaustion, called "sleep", then 5 hours later, rinse and repeat. God forbid you have small kids needing attention, medical care, school help, or a newborn or an infant needing care around the clock. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:51 PM Flag
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This response is so hateful it is sad. Your wishes are probably not very likely, given that she's already made a lot of great decisions in life to get to where she is now. I would bet she's done some smart planning to ensure that even in a rough time she could get through just fine. People's lives are a result of many many many choices they lead them to where they finally end up. Stop being jealous and wishing for people to fall down. Instead you should be focusing on what needs to happen to rise up. Maybe you could learn something from OP. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 01:38 AM Flag
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Hi OP, yes, please can I lean something from you, how did you get rich exactly? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 04:47 AM Flag
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Op pretending to be someone else put using the exact wording and "logic" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 04:50 AM Flag
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No, actually not OP. Although I understand how so many people are offended by the statement "my family is the hand that feeds you," I agree with OPs overall message that she is contributing a lot to society and that she is tired of being attacked for being wealthy and not paying her "fair share". I also think her statement was meant more generally than people are taking it (the top .5% or whatever are what keep this city running--not ONLY the OPs family, which would be ridiculous). I personally think the hatred and jealousy that people have responded with are much much much worse than OPs original brashness. She has a point and very few people are willing to acknowledge what she is saying is true, and instead choose to attack her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 03:32 PM Flag
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I am sorry, you must have had nightmares all night imagining your life as a working poor. OP, my comment was in response to your statement above "OP: nearly half the country takes in services more than they pay in taxes. I'm not saying I would want to trade positions with them, however I am saying they should stop complaining that others are not paying enough. Everyone wants to eat, nobody wants to work." Admittedly, you do not believe it is fair the working poor take more in services than they pay in taxes, at the same time finding a notion of switching place with them terrifying. I was trying to demonstrate to you why many people must rely on social services and why tax brackets are graduated to allow poorer wage earners to pay less tax or even no tax. These people are not lazy, they work, they do jobs that are NECESSARY, jobs without which this city will fall apart. But they don't get paid enough to make a living, to afford healthcare, daycare for kids, and housing in safe areas, they rely on certain assistance just to make ends meet, be it housing assistance, subsidized daycare, food stamps, etc. Why are these people in such circumstances? Not because they made wrong choices in life, not because they somehow screwed up and you somehow did well (and what did you do exactly, marry the rich guy?). It is because at that level if you are born in poverty, if you are not born with the high IQ and good looks to boot, your chances of advancement are extremely poor. But this is not all. Someone MUST be doing these jobs, we need these people who are doing these low paying jobs, but we don't pay them enough in relation to the cost of living here. So, this is why they pay less in taxes and are allowed to take more in services, that is why we pay more in taxes, because we earn more, adequate to survive on and in your case (if you are even for real) live a posh lifestyle with the leftover millions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 04:08 PM Flag
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Love this^ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.09.12, 07:27 AM Flag
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What, based on OR's response, made you think she catered to the rich? If anything, I don't think rich peopel goto the ER, they probably have a doc that makes house-calls. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:54 PM Flag
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Oh, look! We've got a vapid idiot competition going on. "My rich husband pays your taxes!" "Oh yeah? Well, MY rich husband subsizies YOUR healthcare." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:54 PM Flag
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Sounds like OR is a doctor herself. No rich DH mentioned. Are you talking only about OP? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:57 PM Flag
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She feels sorry for you beause you "have" to work, instead of being married to a big, bad HF managing alpha male. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:51 PM Flag
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Lol. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:52 PM Flag
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this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:00 PM Flag
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love this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:36 PM Flag
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You're not paying your fair share. I'm middle class and am paying my fair share. You should pay more. You want to move out of NYC? Don't let the spa door hit your spoiled ass on your way out. Ta ta! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:54 PM Flag
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Well, OP is not paying anything, her DH is. She's just bitter she couldn't get all the botox she wanted because of, you know, poor people. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:56 PM Flag
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Yep [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:58 PM Flag
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Exactly, somebody's annoyed that she can't buy a third home yet. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:54 PM Flag
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NP: Seriously? How much more? A lot of people I know pay close to 50% in taxes. Should they hand over the MAJORITY of each paycheck to the government? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:57 PM Flag
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Yeah, you're a NP. Get lost, OP. Don't you have some lipo to get? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:58 PM Flag
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NP from above: No, I really am a new poster. I'm not married, and nobody in my family is in finance, but I have a few doctors in my family who pay a lot in taxes and malpractice insurance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:01 PM Flag
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They can always do something else for a living. Teaching, for instance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:01 PM Flag
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OP: Doctors get paid more because they are smarter and worked harder, for longer, than teachers. That's why there isn't a saying, "those that can't do, practice medicine." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:39 PM Flag
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This is in part why schools here suck. Morons find it inconceivable that smart people might decide to be teachers. They are convinced if you are smart, you will become a doctor, lawyer, or HF manager. Or, you're stupid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:47 PM Flag
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Taxes and malpractice insurance are not the same thing and should not be lumped together. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:02 PM Flag
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You should if you don't understand concepts like marginal tax rate and effective tax rate. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:59 PM Flag
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If you make an obscene amount of money you have to give back. Don't like it? Go work at Target. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:59 PM Flag
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OP: If people like us left, NYC would turn into a cesspool. You wont pay in the rest of your lifetime in taxes what we pay yearly. And we dont consume any city services, except sanitation. You probably consume more than you pay in. Which is fine, but dont pillory the wealthy because we provide all of your public services. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:39 PM Flag
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Former lawyer for big bank here. Wealthy people need to pay taxes for city and govt services. Without the stability government allows, we would not have a society that allow your husband to make that kind of profit. Example: the police (from your beat cop to highest ranks of FBI and CIA) and law enforcement such as state and federal prosecutors and judges and support people for the court system stand between you and anarchy. Taxes pay for a system which guard your property and your safety. Even if you have never been a victim of a crime, our justice system provided you with security because it kept the would-be criminals from robbing you just by the knowledge there are consequences to criminality. If you don't get how the richest people benefit the most from a stable and law abiding society because they have the most to lose, then try to imagine a society without the infrastructure taxes pay for...I think all the rich people (and middle class people too) will have to start hiring personal security detail. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:37 PM Flag
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Like in Latin American countries. Want to live there? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:41 PM Flag
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Really. You don't walk on public streets (DOT), take public transportation (MTA), goto the parks (DEP), get protection from the police (NYPD), get protection from the Fire Department (NYPD)? Snow removal (DSNY)? hospitals (HHC)? trees (DEP)? public parking (DOT)? get water from the city (DEP)? sewage treatment (DEP)? take taxis (TLC)? go into buildings knowing they're sound (DOB), go into restaurants knowing they're clean (DOH)? protected from convicts (DOC), treated by EMTs (FDNY)? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:07 PM Flag
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Hear hear!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:15 PM Flag
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Op is ignorant. She does not understand how a society works. A city like NYC is expensive to run, and she does not appreciate how much her whole family benefits. She will scream about taxes but ignore how she and dh has benefited. So ignorant and wrong. She benefits more from services of the city and government than anyone. From certification of plastic surgeons to policing her 5th ave streets, government is everywhere. She doesn't even appreciate it. But when all the services are not there anymore, no doubt op will be the first one to complain! Can't have it both ways. You want a well run society, it cost money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:31 PM Flag
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You guys are all totally missing it. She isn't saying she doesn't use some amount of public services. She's saying SHE PAYS HER FAIR SHARE. And that she's tired of people bashing wealthy people like her, and saying that they aren't. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 01:46 AM Flag
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actually, she said exactly that. she said "we don't consume any city services except sanitation". so she is saying she doesn't use roads, libraries, parks, police security, fire security, etc etc etc [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 03:58 AM Flag
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You don't get it. Op is not understanding she benefits more from our government and infrastructure than anyone she is complaining about. The tax her dh is paying goes to their share of public services. She IS saying they are subsidizing others while in fact they benefit and get the MOST from public services and infrastructure. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 04:47 AM Flag
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Actually, her DIRECT QUOTE is: "And we dont consume any city services, except sanitation." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 06:51 PM Flag
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Goodness, I can't wait to see your WAAAAH post when your hedge fund guy finally leaves you for the assistant he's fucking at work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:55 PM Flag
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Exactly what I was thinking. Then she'll be on UB complaining about how cheap her ex-DH is in his child support payments to her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:57 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:58 PM Flag
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OP: Jealousy is unbecoming, ladies. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:37 PM Flag
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Not jealousy, but disgust at you for leeching off of society and pity for your DH for having to deal with such a worthless wife. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:41 PM Flag
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Hey op, what is unbecoming is being a worthless useless parasite who confuses people's disgust for jealousy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:19 PM Flag
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Bingo! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:55 PM Flag
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You sound just like my boyfriend's wife, at least the way he describes her. You may not be getting a ticker tape parade but every tryst with him is like one. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:56 PM Flag
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My husband gave up a law career to be a do-gooder. You and your husband suck. No parade coming from me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 03:57 PM Flag
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You sound bitter about your husband's choice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:02 PM Flag
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Are you kidding? I'm bragging. We have a really nice life. You don't need to make money to be happy, and OP sounds bitter to me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:10 PM Flag
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this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:11 PM Flag
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Ditto, I gave up a nice gig consulting bc I liked serving in government (and the shorter hours) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:06 PM Flag
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OP? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:11 PM Flag
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Laid off? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:02 PM Flag
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np - what part of "gave up" don't you understand? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:10 PM Flag
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OR: exactly [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:10 PM Flag
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Give away all your money and then you won't have this problem. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:01 PM Flag
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Lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:04 PM Flag
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yo aren't unique. my family pays a similar amount -- also HF husband. However, we have no problem with our taxes going up (and they're going to). we voted for Obama knowing that would be the result. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:05 PM Flag
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OP: You cannot tax your way to prosperity [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:37 PM Flag
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which is relevant to my post how? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:39 PM Flag
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Great sloganeering, Power Parasite Mom! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:34 PM Flag
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NP: To be fair (and I'm totally ignoring this loony OP here), if you're paying $1mm, you are in a much different bracket than the rank and file "rich." Do you think $250k per family is really a good cutoff for tax raises? Because that's what got me about Obama - picking a number that sounds rich, but in NYC, is a nice living but hardly rich. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 01:50 AM Flag
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+10000000. This is the point. OP is bitching how she is paying her fair share, but in reality she is paying exact same rate people earning 250K a year pay if not less. And there is a huuuuge gap between those making 250K and those making over 2 mil a year. I don't think she is paying fair share, her tax rate should be higher than people earning 250K a year. There should be another bracket somewhere around 1 mil HHI. Besides, it is known that the very rich get a lot of their earnings from capital gains, which are taxed at 15%, which is on part with how much poor demographics pay, this is just purely BS. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 05:24 PM Flag
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How are you feeding us by paying taxes? I do not follow. Are all the people you named wards of the state? My DH and I pay a hefty tax bill, HF partner and law firm partner, but admittedly not that high. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:06 PM Flag
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OP: You are where we were 5 years ago. We're on the same team. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:36 PM Flag
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But I don't feel that I am feeding the rest of the city, I honestly don't. I'm grateful to be so successful. Paying taxes is a privilege because it means you have earned a lot. I would rather live in a more egalitarian society a la Europe than one like South American countries. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:06 PM Flag
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No, dear, she's not Marie Antomiette [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:06 PM Flag
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No op, don't compare yourself to someone who actually does something -- law partner. You are useless parasite who finds her identity in riding coattails of others. Wake up-- NOT your accomplishments! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:22 PM Flag
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Every rich guy in his 50s that I know is on his second wife. Really. OP, I hope you don't have a prenup. Look around you. The old dudes trade up. Sad but true. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 06:26 AM Flag
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I'm not in your league financilly, but I completely agree with you! you paid your fair share, in addition to all the money that you probably spend on goods and services. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:06 PM Flag
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OP: You bet. What I spend on Botox and lipo alone would shock most of the women here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:13 PM Flag
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OP: This is not me. But fine, throw stones if you want. Discretionary medical expenses also keep the lights on for plastic surgeons, dermatologists, dentists, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:36 PM Flag
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and buying heroin supports dealers and their kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:40 PM Flag
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NP: If you ever feel like bringing a friend, call me! I need Botox but don't want to shell out the $$! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:37 PM Flag
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I actually feel for you, OP. I'm a lawyer and so is my husband. Not sure that "you're the hand that feeds" us... we feed ourselves and certainly "pay our fair share"... but the tax issues make us sick too. I think the whole "pay your fair share" argument is nonsense. You should revise your statement and maybe you will avoid some of the flames. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:06 PM Flag
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She can't. That's how she goes through life. Everyone is her servant. Her dc's teachers. Her doctors. Her therapist. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:10 PM Flag
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This has got to be the poster who wants someone to deliver AND decorate her Christmas tree. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:12 PM Flag
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And wipe her ass [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:14 PM Flag
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If we're lucky maybe someone will push you in front of the F train. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:14 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:28 PM Flag
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too soon [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:32 PM Flag
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THIS is a typical liberal's stance on anyone who makes more than she does. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:35 PM Flag
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no, nothing against people who make money. it's against people who are entitled. OP is a biotch. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:00 PM Flag
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I hate when people say things like this. Lots of liberals make $$ they just also appreciate that there is a need to help people who don't have as much. The OP's comments are crazy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:01 PM Flag
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No, it's a typical human's stance on anyone who says dumbass crap like MY FAMILY IS THE HAMD THAT FEEDS YOU. OP seems to forget that NYC did just fine before there was such a thing as a hedge fund manager. Most liberals (and note that there are plenty of wealthy liberals on UB) don't have an issue with money but with the selfishness and arrogance (so artfully displayed by OP) that can come with it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:10 PM Flag
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She actually doesn't make anything. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:12 PM Flag
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lol this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:33 PM Flag
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nearly spilled my coffee on the keyboard laughing. good one! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:03 PM Flag
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please stop talking. you married into this...didn't do anything on your own. you're an idiot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:24 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:55 PM Flag
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I work for a nonprofit that helps kids with cancer - I made 40k. HUGE thank you to you and your husband for feeding and supporting me!!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:25 PM Flag
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OP: You're welcome. We may have contributed to your funding, and if we didn't somebody like us did. We keep the lights on at your work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:35 PM Flag
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No, HE contributed. You appear to be a parasite. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:35 PM Flag
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np: I love you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:38 PM Flag
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this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:07 PM Flag
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poster from above: Your husband donated, NOT you. You are a horrible, entitled BITCH. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:50 PM Flag
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And guess what? The garbagemen keep the stinking, filthy garbage that you and your precious family produce every day from filling up your sidewalk. The elctricians keep your lights on. The plumbers keep your water running and keep your pee and poop flowing tidily through the pipes so it doesnt clog your Kohler fixtures. The policemen keep you safe. Doctors and nurses keep you well. Any of those people are more crucial that you to keeping civil society running. Please try taking your head out of your ass now. Have a nice day and be grateful. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:12 PM Flag
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In the big scheme, op is worthless to society. Garbage men serves a purpose. Nurses serve a purpose. Lawyers and doctors serve a purpose. But op? Nope, op has absolutely no purpose, so in a Darwinian world, she should just die off. She is of no use to society. All she is is a parasite. Yet ironically she is on her soapbox complaining about people who are not paying their share. Ironic isn't it? A parasite accusing others or being parasites. Op is parasite mom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:42 PM Flag
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I like "Power Parasite Mom" better. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:38 PM Flag
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OP: Blow-Job Parasite Mom. She feeds of dh in various parasitic ways. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:58 PM Flag
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*Off [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:58 PM Flag
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In the big scheme, op is worthless to society. Garbage men serves a purpose. Nurses serve a purpose. Lawyers and doctors serve a purpose. But op? Nope, op has absolutely no purpose, so in a Darwinian world, she should just die off. She is of no use to society. All she is is a parasite. Yet ironically she is on her soapbox complaining about people who are not paying their share. Ironic isn't it? A parasite accusing others or being parasites. Op is parasite mom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:42 PM Flag
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Your DH contributed, you sat on your ass and spend more money on your manis. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:07 PM Flag
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She is spending money on manis and if you do, you keep small businesses going, if you spend money at retail stores, you keep them in business. If Wall Street has a bad year, so does everyone else. It is a trickle down effect. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:03 PM Flag
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Do you know what a family earning $50k can do with the $500 she spends on botox? $500 in her hands is wasted, $500 on a MC family is spent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:20 PM Flag
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ITDA - it doesn't matter what she spends it on, it matters that she spends it. Botox goes into a doctor's wallet and then that doctor gets to spend the $. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:04 PM Flag
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Actually, it does matter. I make a lot of money. If you give me $500, it won't have the same economical impact as if you gave it to a LMC person. I'm not saying I have no impact, but I won't spend it in a way that benefits a lot of people. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 06:57 PM Flag
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How is it different? Please explain. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 11:55 PM Flag
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Trickle down effect nonsense is another lame excuse of the rich to keep more money in their pocket and pay less taxes! What matters more for economy is how the masses feel about their spending power, how secure the middle class thinks their jobs are and how much they can go out to spend. It's the numbers game, you get million dollars when one person pays it for your service or when 1000 people give you a dollar. Same thing. So far masses of lower wage workers outnumber you thousands to one if not more. Even if they spend overall less per household, in their numbers they spend a lot more overall. When the masses feel squeezed, that's when we all feel recession. Rich have already raked in major dough, they are going to spend anyway and they mainly spend on higher price goods and services. When retail stores got hit during the recession, the luxury retailers didn't report lower numbers, they were chugging along. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 05:33 PM Flag
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No you don't. You didn't give out of kindness. No thanks going to you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:04 PM Flag
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OK--I thought the "MIL isn't wrapping our presents" was the most asinine post of the day, then I read this. Classic. What a miserable whiny psycho-entitled beeatch. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:43 PM Flag
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i hate OP [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:58 PM Flag
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true dat [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:05 PM Flag
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Forget about income, taxes, all that financial crap. Bottom line is you really think you're better than the rest of us, don't you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 04:58 PM Flag
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OP: Yes. I posted above that doctors are smarter than teachers. If you make more money, you're probably better in some way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:07 PM Flag
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Now I know she is a fake. Too dumb. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:50 PM Flag
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You make no money, so where does that put you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:07 PM Flag
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You might be luckier in some way, meaner in some other way and more risk taking than others. Better? I don't think so. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:08 PM Flag
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So by your lights, the plastic surgeon is "better" than the GP who goes to work in a poor neighborhood? Uh yeah, OK. God, you sound like the trashiest, unhappiest person. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:24 PM Flag
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The plastic surgeon is definitely smarter. It's the toughest specialty to land and nearly impossible to get without graduating at the top of your class, taking an extra year to do research, and not to mention the 7-year surgery plus fellowships that follow. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:36 PM Flag
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not definitely smarter. maybe the GP is smarter but didn't want to be a plastic surgeon, hard as that may be to believe. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:07 PM Flag
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Yeah, because hey--all doctors should be plastic surgeons! Forget about pediatrics, geriatrics, anesthesiology, OB GYN...I mean--you should go where the money's at!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 07:16 PM Flag
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Eye roll. BS. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:24 PM Flag
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But op does not make any money. So by her own criteria, she is inferior, or at most, since she is only riding her dh's coat-tails, op is merely a well-compensated vagina.. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:49 PM Flag
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That's great, OP is Coattails Mom! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:12 PM Flag
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I'm voting for "Power Parasite Mom", but this is a great runner-up! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:39 PM Flag
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Vagina Comp Mom has a ring to it, IMO. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 08:35 PM Flag
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This is Calvinism at its basest. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:39 PM Flag
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Call it Calvinism, call it meritocracy. Either way, Americans believe this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:13 PM Flag
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Hey, OP, I have a job which means I make more money than YOU. So, yeah -_- [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:07 PM Flag
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Wow. Thank you, OP. I come from an academic culture, and I never actually believed that rich people thought this way. I just assumed that they had to be more sophisticated than that, that there would be a sheepishness, a gratefulness that while they were weak and motivated by greed, wasting their intelligence to make more money for people who didn't really need it, smarter, better people were curing diseases, developing ideas, trying to save the earth from global warming, and pushing the boundaries of our world in so many new ways. But I guess I was wrong. Rich people really are that narrow-minded. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 04:18 AM Flag
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You are an idiot. If your DH's fund actually employs 100 people, someone on this board is going to have a pretty good idea of which fund it is. There aren't that many in NYC with that many employees (there are lots of small funds, and then the really big ones.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:14 PM Flag
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100 is not unusual. Assuming you're counting all the back and middle office, and admins. Any fund with 2-10B could fit in this category [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:14 PM Flag
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NP: not true. The beauty of the business is that it's the very definition of scalable. You could have $10B and fifteen people soup to nuts, with a bunch of the work outsourced. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 01:52 AM Flag
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NYC's total budget is $68 billion and NYS's total budget is $93 billion, and the population of NYC is 8.2 million, so your $1M in taxes and 100 jobs are teeny tiny drops in the bucket. Your insanely over-inflated sense of importance and your poor math skills are ridiculous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:16 PM Flag
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Fake. No one can possibly make that much money. $1,000,000 in taxes? LOL [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:51 PM Flag
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Obviously I am joking. OP may not be able to tell. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 05:52 PM Flag
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Probably the poster of the recent thread bragging she is going to make 4 mil this year. Apparently, it's totally doable in this city. Gosh, don't you feel sorry for all these poor folks, paying 1 mil just in taxes? Barely anything left to live on!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:06 PM Flag
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I am not that poster and I was being sarcastic. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:05 PM Flag
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So, do you have anything left to live on, you poor thing? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:12 PM Flag
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Actually I am unemployed. I guess I have also lost my sense o humor. I was trying to say that OP thinks she is so much better than people who make less, what do the people who truly make megabucks think of her? If her DH made 1 mill, that's really not as much as she thinks she is, given her conviction of superiority. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:33 PM Flag
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No, that person actually earned the money herself. Ahe said "I" am making $4M. Not "we" are making $4M. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 06:54 PM Flag
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1 million in local and state taxes = 9 million gross [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:15 PM Flag
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Dear OP, I understand the burden such high tax rate has on your overall well being. I would love to switch places with you any time! Please do not hesitate to contact me and I will be glad to remove this burden from you and instead you will be paying a healthy and reasonable amount of 50K a year. Oh and as a bonus, lots of other worries, such as which TT school to send your kids, dealing with household staff, your summer residence, a boat, booking all these exotic vacations, entertaining and social climbing, and other tough decisions you must encounter every year will no longer be a problem, I promise! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:05 PM Flag
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Eh, OP has her troubles. All that botox is killing her and DH has got to be bring home some nasty STDs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:12 PM Flag
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LOVE THIS!!!!!! I feel the same! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:19 PM Flag
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So much jealousy on this board, it is really quite sad. In 2009 the top 5% paid over 58% of taxes collected (top 1% paid 37%, top 10% paid 70%). I'd say that's "fair share" plus a lot more. Hard to deny. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 06:40 PM Flag
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there's a big difference between saying the top wage earners pay a lot of taxes and saying OP's *DH's* $1 million is the hand that feeds us all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:14 PM Flag
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Why don't you note how much of the income they earned? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:19 PM Flag
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There is a top .5% inside this top 5%, who pay capital gains taxes, way lower than people making a fraction of what they make every year. If they were to pay slightly more, they would still keep lots than any of us would ever dream to earn in our lifetimes, but the society at large would benefit a lot more. It is not about how much you pay, but how much you get to keep, and you still get to keep PLENTY! Warren Buffet is actually against tax relief for the wealthy and thinks that we could benefit from raising taxes a little on the very very wealthy, they will still invest, no worries about it, because, guess what? They still have BOAT LOADS of cash they have to do something with. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:18 PM Flag
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There is a world/universe/galaxy of difference between the top 5% earning low 6 figures and those at the top .01% earning millions and hundreds of millions each year. I want to see the distribution of how much different income groups within this top 5% contribute in taxes each year. I bet you those at the bottom of the 5% get screwed the most. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:21 PM Flag
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I agree to some extent. I've been a partner of 3 small finance businesses over the last 15 years, and the expense of running the business in NYC is so much more. We're located in NYC because that's where our clients prefer to meet us, not b/c I need to spa here. we've provided jobs for not only people hired in our firm, but also quite a few indirectly (domestic help, etc.). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:02 PM Flag
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And how do you think your domestic help/spa personnel/delivery guys/restaurant cooks and waiters can get by living in this area without your tax contributions? Do you think they can survive on the measly salaries you pay them alone, without the social programs, public transport, subsidized housing (they probably are living in), public schools? In order to support such a large cohort of population with measly wages, that are working to service the rich, the rich have to pay into the tax system that goes to support social programs these people need to supplement their wages, which are extremely crappy given the insanely high COL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:28 PM Flag
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Funny--isn't SAC the one that just got busted for insider trading? Is OP feeling a little...anxious? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:15 PM Flag
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You are despicable. The rest of us work to put food on our tables. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:26 PM Flag
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Stop. I have a solution for you all, who are terrified when they glance at their tax returns year after year. No fear. We will ship all the service workers that you need to make this city livable to you, all the workers at spas/restaurants/stores and your much needed domestic help and taxi drivers to the cheap rural land somewhere in Jersey or PA and fly them here every single day for your needs in our new fleet of commuter airplanes! We also will build special shelters for them to stay overnight should you need their services equipped with bunk beds and warm meals, but it will cost you a lot less than having to house all these leaches in the city, pay their medical care at our expensive hospitals and educate their non-worthy offspring in our fine public institutions. Think about all the doctors that would be free to see to your needs alone, entire hospital wings free of undesirable lower classes. Homeless? these will be dealt with, no worries, we will collect them and escort them out of our fine city for good. Also, forget about parks and recreations support, we will issue tickets for the most frequently visited public open spaces. Policemen? who needs them, when you have more than enough to afford your private guard and with more tax savings you can afford to own a police precinct of your own and a fire-fighting crew and a road repair service and charge others less rich to use these services, what a nice source of revenue for you. Lots of Savings coming your way! Think, how many more designer clothes/purses/spa visits you can afford and how much bigger of a summer home/yacht you can have. That's it, I am running for president, I am ready to put this money back into your pocket, are you on board with me, you rich comrades? Ready to sponsor my campaign? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:48 PM Flag
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You are too witty for op to understand. She will miss the sarcasm. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:07 PM Flag
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Sadly, you're right, but I enjoyed it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:58 PM Flag
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and you would win, too, because they can buy the votes! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 09:45 AM Flag
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Wait, should we sing the songs of gratitude to you, is this what you want? You are doing something out of the ordinary? No, you are paying taxes on what you earn. So do we all. Should you not be paying taxes, is this the point here? I wonder how much you are actually paying to all these 100 people you employ, I bet you get to keep the lion share. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 07:53 PM Flag
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OP: Just stop complaining about how we are not paying enough. We pay plenty, thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:19 PM Flag
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I think Warren Buffet would disagree with you. He is proposing rich should pay more taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 05:36 PM Flag
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Wow. Honestly I think sociopaths come in all forms. I don't want to believe people like this exist, and it scares me so much when I read this stuff on a site ssupposedly for "normal" people. I guess OP should be happy she isn't ugly on the outside, or she might have gone in a completely different direction. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:37 PM Flag
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And this is altruism on your part? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:38 PM Flag
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I'm guessing this is fake because I don't see how your DH runs a fund and only paid $1MM in taxes?? Or, you are really stupid and running your mouth...just wait for the IRS to come to your door. In either circumstance, you are forgetting that UB is a board full of working professionals who pay hundreds of thousands in taxes per year, and that for many of these dual-income executive households, paying a million in taxes is not unheard of for them. Your line about feeding the city is a bit ridiculous. This is a city of 8 million people and your million dollars is a drop in the bucket. Why you felt so special is beyond me, probably has something to do with the fact that you do not work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:40 PM Flag
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^^^And, btw, are you aware that the operating budget of NYC is nearly $70 BILLION dollars? Now do you really think you are so special? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 08:43 PM Flag
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OP: Again, you are so literal. When I talk about our state & local taxes, I am speaking on behalf of the tiny sliver of NYC that pays the lion's share of the taxes. 1% of new yorkers pay 43% of the income taxes for the city. If you measured how much additional we pay in the form of sales and property taxes, our contribution would be higher. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/thanks_lot_to_the_e7GGP2aPLhaW0yESCrknEJ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:22 PM Flag
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I call bullshit on this one. Go back and read your own post - it's clear you were talking about your individual family and then when other posters pointed out how tiny that amount really is, you changed your story. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:52 PM Flag
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np i think it is obvious she was speaking as representative for the .1%, not that her personal taxes were essential to nyc's fiscal situation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:15 PM Flag
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Not at all. She explicitly states in all caps, "MY FAMILY IS THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU." Then she goes on to discuss the number of people HER fund employs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:46 PM Flag
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lol, citing the amount you pay in sales and property taxes kind of ruins your argument, so you probably should have left that out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:43 PM Flag
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+100! I mean seriously OP obviously has no sense of money to think that paying that much is SO out of ordinary in finance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 04:12 AM Flag
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Np- When Wall Street has a bad year, so does everyone in NY. Wall Street is the biggest taxpayer in NY by far. When they don't get big bonuses, they spend less on goods and services. The retail stores suffer, real estate suffers, restaurants suffer, etc. When businesses suffer, the people who own those businesses have less discretionary income and soon and so on. For those of you who vilify Wall Street, you should think about what would happen if it did go away. When more and more hedge funds move out of the city, those people are not going to our local restaurants, retails stores, doctors, etc. aside from losing their taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:13 PM Flag
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I don't necessarily disagree, but let's not pretend OP, who doesn't even work, is keeping the lights on in government offices. Oh right, she doesn't use any government services at all, so she's doing us a giant favor. DH is in IB and while I don't disagree that there's a trickle down effect, I would never think we're feeding someone else. Whether we support public institutions like libraries, pay medical costs, pay for cops etc, the society at large benefits. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:17 PM Flag
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gee, somehow the economy thrived before Wall Street convinced people to buy bad mortgages while manipulating the books to make tons for themselves, and as someone said before, New York did just fine before hedge funds, who contribute nothing and really only make money for themselves, sorry. Before preposterous Wall Street salaries drove the price of housing to the clouds, people could actually afford to buy something and live in Manhattan. The list goes on and one. Nice try at making yourself feel better. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:19 PM Flag
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Stop that BS, please. Stop saying how you are saving our jobs and our asses every day with your generous spending. As far as spending is concerned, NYC is a big city and it's all a numbers game, plus we have a thriving tourist industry. You are going to say that you spend more at restaurants than 5000 lower wage people combined? Then you must eat a lot :0 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:29 PM Flag
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Keep patting yourself on the back. Why don't you donate to charity to make yourself feel better instead. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:29 PM Flag
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I came to NYC during 2008 when it was panic in finance world. We took advantage of lower rates at hotels and lower rents, but honestly, they weren't that much lower. They were still pretty expensive and now they are back up to where they were. Finance industry is still reeling from the events in 2008 and lots of people are out of jobs, even those who used to make big bucks. But prices are back up, it is still a landlord's market. How to you explain this. here is how. Rich people have *already* accumulated lots of wealth, they are going to spend, what else are they going to do? They have no choice but to spend or invest. the world is becoming more and more "flat" and soon it wont' matter what country you take your cash in, because, guess what, there are tons of money overseas and they are looking for all the same things as you do - great investment opportunities and luxury goods. We have moved towards plutocracy and it is a global plutocracy. We are concentrating more and more wealth in hands of fewer and fewer people while the rest is getting poorer and poorer and this nasty little wealth pyramid is about to tip over if it keeps growing fatter at the top. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:38 PM Flag
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Actually what would happen is that real estate prices would dome down and the city would go back to having a middle class again instead of being a big featureless shopping mall. -Lifelong NYer [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 04:09 AM Flag
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Oh, god you are gross. We pay more than you, and I realize that it is because we are incredibly lucky. If you are like us, then you are getting off incredibly light in terms of "paying your share." Most of those people you mentioned pay a much bigger percentage of their income in taxes. Stop sniveling, Marie Antoinette. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 09:42 PM Flag
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OP: I'm not denying that we're lucky. I just think it is offensive for people to constantly whine about how we're not paying our fair share. The rich keep NYC in the black. We pay plenty of taxes. Instead of driving us to Westchester, Jersey, CT, and Long Island, how about NYers acknowledge that we pay PLENTY in taxes, and are responsible for keeping the lights on in much of city governmnet. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:14 PM Flag
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how come the lights were on for all the time before you came along? And New York thrived far more than it does today, with far less wealth disparity? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:42 PM Flag
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We AREN'T paying our fair share! We are paying less, as a proportion of our income tax, then has been paid for decades and decades! The only reason we pay so much in gross terms is because we HAVE so much relative to other people. The more we hoard money, the more tax burden we have to burden. Because there is less and less money out there that we don't possess! It doesn't seem like you are very familiar with income distributions in this country. I think if you are blessed, like we are, the least you can do is figure out the reality of what has been going on. Look up the gini coefficient. Money comes with responsibilities, and it doesn't seem like you are owning up to that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 02:13 AM Flag
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The real question is how do you define "fair share"? because if you're paying 1 million on a 2 million income, that's one thing. but you're probably not because of carried interest. if its one million on an income of 10 million,that's not even close to your fair share. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 03:26 PM Flag
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LMAO - your post caused people to wish you a death by being pushed in front of the F train and called your vagina untalented. LOL!!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:07 PM Flag
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She might be into SM, from verbal insults perspective, maybe she is getting turned on. Did you get enough for today, OP, or should we keep going? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:40 PM Flag
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OP: by all means, keep going. I'm just amazed at the sheer jealousy here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:16 PM Flag
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You are really delusional if you think this is jealousy. You must know that people would take issue with you telling them that you feed them. Particularly when you are speaking to an UMC section of NYers, all of whom are also, only seeing 1/2 of their paychecks after they pay taxes. It also comes across as a bit more hilarious when you continue to insert yourself into your DH's line of work. You do not run his fund. You do not earn that money, so stop saying "WE." It makes you sound even more ridiculous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:41 PM Flag
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unless you're engaging in a crime and made more than 2 million or so, you realize a lot of couples (especially where the wife is accomplished in her own right) on here make alot more than your husband, right? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:41 PM Flag
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Honey, I feel sorry for you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 06:52 PM Flag
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You're the ultimate slug/loser/parasite--so much so that I actually think this is fake. No one is like this. If you are, keeps the lights off during sex because the minute your dh sees the sagging, he's outta there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:21 PM Flag
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You are a disgusting person, OP, not because you are rich. Among rich people there are those that are nice and those that are assholes. You are giving all the wealthy demographics here in NYC a really bad name. I am ashamed of you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 10:52 PM Flag
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I'm pretty sure she's fake. As many have stated, what finance guy is running a fund and only paying $1MM in taxes? Um, I don't think so. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:41 PM Flag
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let me guess. you have no real friends and worry constantly about your dh cheating on you. No wonder you are so invested in being rich-what else do you have? People impoverished within are not fully human. What a sad life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:46 PM Flag
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let me guess--you were a brain surgeon before you gave it up to decorate? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:48 PM Flag
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she's obviously fake and now thinks she's brilliant for stirring up all the brouhaha. She knows what will push people's buttons. I've heard some gross comments on this, but no real person could talk like OP. But hope you guys enjoyed the debate! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.06.12, 11:50 PM Flag
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Come to my child's school. This lady would fit right in [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 03:22 AM Flag
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yeah, it was kinda like a little passion play on ub. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 04:28 AM Flag
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fake, crazy or some low form of life. Whichever, I don't care except to hope I stay as far away as possible. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 03:22 PM Flag
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You make me sick. The amount of taxes or the number of people you employ has NOTHING to do with your contribution to society. You may well be a scourge or a saint, and from your attitude I'd lean towards scourge. What was your total percentage of income paid in taxes? Unless you're willing to open up your books to us to truly judge whether your DH has participated in investment strategies that led to the biggest financial crisis in 100 years STFU, and be prepared to pay more taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.07.12, 03:54 PM Flag
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NYcers are fools for paying those nasty taxes. LEAVE! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 02:12 AM Flag
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You are an idiot wife of a HF DH. If HE owns the fund and only paid $1MM in NY& NYC taxes then he's either not paying his fair share percentage wise and paying out profits through carried interest or the fund is not very successful and you should stop spending so much on Botox. Either way you are most certainly not the hand that feeds me, small potatoes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 04:19 AM Flag
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op - you can post how you are funding the the budget deficit when carried interest gets taxed at 35% instead of 15%. why are you so angry? your dh's taxes paid to NY state and federal is the COST OF DOING BUSINESS you moron. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.09.12, 06:35 AM Flag
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And so? You really don't do enough do you, as their are still poor people in the world suffering and you are sitting back, wastefully spending things, impulse buying, wasting your time on this site getting your kicks. If you were really rich and any decent person at all, you would be like Bill and Melinda Gates and be a philanthropist. It must eat you alive with guilt, otherwise you wouldn't be bothered with blame about doing your "fair share." You are a sad watse of opportunity. There is probably some real good you could do in the world, but you consider what the government takes from you in taxes to be enough, and if the government did tax you, you would probably give a lot less to charity. It's sad that arrogant people like you have such power, and you try to wipe people's noses in it because you feel bad when they say the truth. Wake up. you depend on others too. Youtake people who service you everyday for granted and act like you can buy them. You can't. And you can't buy heart or compassion, common sense, or the decency to be a good person ether. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 09:44 AM Flag
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I suggest you read this book.......Mink Coats Don't Trickle Down: The Economic Attack on Women and People of Color. Also, if you are talking about Greenlight Capital or othe HF who shorted US bank CDS in 2007, I beg to disagree with you. I do blame your DH [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 01:37 PM Flag
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You are so misguided it's ridiculous. What about me? It my money that's paying for your nannies, your vacations and your house in Sagaponic. And you have it because of DH's fees and skimming off the top. The way you think abut hard working people whose services you can't live without is deplorable. This is why people hate you. Not only do you not deserve a parade, you deserve to learn a life lesson the hard way. Signed, someone who pays almost as much in taxes as you do, feels lucky to have the wonderful things that we do, AND spends a lot of time thinking that we're not deserving of so much when so many hardworking people have practically nothing. You're evil. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 03:58 PM Flag
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I hope your kid gets run over by a truck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.08.12, 04:01 PM Flag
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let me guess, your DH is a hedge fund or some money manager? well, i hope he doesn't waste tax payer money rotting in some jail one day because it turns out that his fund generates alpha with insider trading. really, money managers are such leeches to society and adds 0 value while charging ridiculous management fees. i can say this, because i know the industry intimately. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.09.12, 06:33 AM Flag
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