i can smell the desperation from the obama camp. some story about a dead dude that cannnot be verified from 50 years ago. you guys are toast.
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Idk, 4 co-students have spoken about it. That's verification to me.
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05.10.12, 05:19 PM
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yeah, let them dig up a disciplinary record. they are democrats. the guy is dead and romney denies the story. it ain't going nowhere but obama is DESPERATE. who can blame the guy. have you seen the latest polls?
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05.10.12, 05:21 PM
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Romney wasn't disciplined. And remember, Romney says he doesn't remember the incident, not that it didn't happen. And he apologized.
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05.10.12, 05:22 PM
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he didn't apologize for the incident. basically, it didn't happen. and it was haircut not a bloody pulp beating.
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05.10.12, 05:28 PM
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it was humilliating and cruel you know it.
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05.10.12, 05:33 PM
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it certainly wasn't nice. but how does it matter now? it's just desperation.
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05.10.12, 05:37 PM
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I see: the buzzword of the week is "desperation." I'll be on the lookout. Thanks.
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05.10.12, 05:38 PM
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So it wasn't nice . . . but it didn't happen. Okay then.
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05.10.12, 08:15 PM
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listen idiot, it basically didn't happen because it doesn't matter at all at this point.
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05.11.12, 12:30 AM
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You mean not like his friend killing that dog? And to be honest I'm more creeped out by Romney strapping his dog to the car until he got sick than I am about the haircut.
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05.10.12, 05:33 PM
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np: that's silly. plenty of things that really happened never go in a disciplinary record. pretty much every act of bullying i ever witnessed in high school never even caught an adult's attention. plenty of other stuff was swept under the rug. when multiple people, who are friends of the accused, come up with the same story... it's likely the real deal.
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05.10.12, 05:24 PM
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yep. it never happened as far as anyone is concerned. this is totally going to blow over. obama is desperate and the more i see antics like this, the more i'm concerned that james carville has it right and the democrats are screwed.
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05.10.12, 05:29 PM
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I dunno, I think a story about abusing another student- along with the story about the dog, and his friend torturing that other dog- will sink Romney. No one wants someone with such poor judgment running the country
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05.10.12, 05:34 PM
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well, the polls say something else.
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05.10.12, 05:38 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but things don't become true just by repeating them.
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05.10.12, 05:39 PM
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uh, that's a super conservative website. Sorry, don't buy it.
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05.10.12, 05:47 PM
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did they make up the polls? did they form some new gallup polling firm named the same as the venerable one? what exactly is conservative about those polls by gallup and rasmussen?
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05.10.12, 05:57 PM
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They won't stay that way IMO. There has been too much bad press about this recently.
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yeah, but the economy is getting crappier.
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05.10.12, 05:46 PM
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This is a huge story. Even people against gay marriage don't want to side with a bully who claims not to remember pinning another boy to the floor and cutting off his hair.
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05.10.12, 06:56 PM
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is this the Republicans' tactic, Conservative Talking Points poster? Good to know how they'll try to spin their way out of this evidence of Romney being a big ol' bully.
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05.10.12, 05:34 PM
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Except everyone verifies that it DID happen. Even Romney isnt denying it, which lets be honest if it is a lie you know he'd be out there denying it like crazy and digging up proof that it was a lie. Because if it's a lie, then these guys are all being paid to lie, and you know he'd be all over that.
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05.10.12, 05:36 PM
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and what of it? nothing is going to come. he might have clipped some guy's hair. that hardly seems noteworthy.
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05.10.12, 05:40 PM
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SO when a bunch of people pin down your daughter, chop her hair off and taunt her as she cries- on school grounds- you wouldn't be concerned with this? When she came home with bruises from being held down and her hair chopped off by a bully???
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05.10.12, 05:44 PM
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there was no report of taunting or bruising. quit being melodramatic.
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05.10.12, 05:48 PM
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Oh, sorry, didn't realize you witnessed it
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05.10.12, 05:49 PM
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link to such reports if i am mistaken.
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05.10.12, 05:50 PM
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I'll take that to mean "no, I am definitely not okay with my child being physically held down and abused by another student"
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05.10.12, 05:49 PM
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it was 50 years ago. you're continuing to sound desperate.
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05.10.12, 05:50 PM
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So if someone did that to your child you'd be upset at the time, but you think you would get over it and then vote that person into public office? I'm just waiting for you to say you think it is no big deal for someone to chase your child, hold down your child against her will, and chop her hair off at school.
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05.10.12, 05:52 PM
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it wouldn't be the end of the world. hair grows back. i wouldn't expect the dead dude to cast his vote for romney, but everyone else, you/they're just idiots looking for an excuse. and there aren't that many of you.
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05.10.12, 05:53 PM
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Ok, so I'm going to come over, grab your kid out of her bed, hold her down, chop her hair off while laughing at her now. Hair grows back. And your vagina still works after being raped. You know. It's not like he killed anyone.
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05.10.12, 05:54 PM
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yep, not like he even punched the guy.
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05.10.12, 05:56 PM
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Rapists dont leave punch marks or bruises either. I mean they are just borrowing the vagina. It still works afterwords. She isn't really physically harmed. Who cares if she didn't want to have sex with him?
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05.10.12, 06:12 PM
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hey, if romney raped the guy, i'd hear what you're saying. but he cut her hair. a pickpocket isn't the same thing as gunned robbery. you keep trying but you look totally stupid.
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05.10.12, 07:05 PM
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The best possible spin Romney could put on it at his age would be to admit he did it and say it was something he regretted forever, and it made him change his life and treat people better, especially gay people. But no. He's actually denying it. He says he doesn't remember. So we're left to conclude that people never really change.
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05.10.12, 06:59 PM
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Really? This smacks of desperation? I think you sound pretty desperate.
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05.10.12, 05:21 PM
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not me. it's already an uphill battle as a challenger to the incumbent but obama is so horrifically bad, it's actually doable.
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05.10.12, 05:22 PM
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denial sounds like a pretty awesome drug. Is there a pill for that? or just a lobotomy?
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05.10.12, 05:26 PM
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well, he is ahead in national polls. i wouldn't call the denial. perhaps you are projecting?
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05.10.12, 05:29 PM
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oh, is there some election this year where only women, minorities and independents vote?
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05.10.12, 05:46 PM
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2008
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05.10.12, 05:47 PM
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yeah, that was 2008 and severe anti-bush sentiment. but even then, obama was running behind a "generic" republican candidate. they screwed up with mccain. but romney is a whole lot smarter than mccain. it doesn't seem like it's happening for our first black president.
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05.10.12, 05:49 PM
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I don't get it... why the snide remark about him being black?
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05.10.12, 05:50 PM
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i supposed if you're a sensitive sort of gal who's always itching to pull the race card, then you can take it to be snide.
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05.10.12, 05:52 PM
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I just don't get why you mentioned his race at all to be honest.
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05.10.12, 06:12 PM
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What dead dude? You don't mean the haircut story, do you.
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05.10.12, 05:21 PM
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yep, the dude who got his hair supposedly lobbed off is very conveniently dead.
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05.10.12, 05:22 PM
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But the 4 or 5 other students who were with Romney confirmed it.
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05.10.12, 05:24 PM
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so? they verify that they are democrats. i hardly see that as an impartial recount of things.
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05.10.12, 05:30 PM
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So what do you think ... It's a democratic conspiracy? Crap.
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05.10.12, 05:32 PM
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just not going to matter. he really might have done it. i don't care. but it just smells of desperation going back to high school in the 60's. that's half a century ago.
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05.10.12, 05:34 PM
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once a bully, always a bully
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05.10.12, 05:36 PM
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So if he had killed that kid with the scissors on accident, it still wouldn't matter? You think that being a sociopath as a teenager just goes away?
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05.10.12, 05:37 PM
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yes, cutting some kids hair is equivalent to sociopathic behavior. this is why i think you guys are going to lose. you have lost all grip on reality.
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05.10.12, 05:54 PM
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It's not cutting some kids hair anymore than rape is just having sex with someone and you know it
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05.10.12, 06:15 PM
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uh, no. it is called rape because it isn't sex as we all know it. it is called cutting hair and not some other word we don't have for traumatic tress syndrome because it isn't a big deal.
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05.10.12, 07:06 PM
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So you think that Obama's camp rounded up a handful of Romney's ex-classmates, paid them off to make up a story about Romney torturing another student, and crossed their fingers that none of the men they approached would go to the news and say "we are being bribed to lie about Romney"? And if this was the case, you don't htink Romney would vehemently assert that it was all lies, and Romney's people would dig and dig and uncover the bribe? Give me a break.
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05.10.12, 05:36 PM
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there is motive and the story itself is weak. it's not going to make even one-tenths of a point difference in november.
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05.10.12, 05:55 PM
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Not true, one of them is a Republican party guy in Michigan.
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05.10.12, 07:01 PM
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Lining up every single witness is remarkable and damning. If there were conflicting accounts, ok, but they all say the same thing and they all regretted it and some of them apologized. Meanwhile Romney claims not to remember.
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05.10.12, 07:03 PM
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Where's your link? Oh no link? We don't wanna hear about it.
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05.10.12, 05:21 PM
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It's in the Washington Post...the people interviewed are very specific about what happened that day, regardless of whether the person is alive or dead. Yes, stuff gets raked up all the time--maybe something Obama did years ago will be divulged too--don't think the Repubs. aren't digging. It's political tricks of course, but this is a disgusting account.
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05.10.12, 05:24 PM
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See link below to washpo story.
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05.10.12, 05:31 PM
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Some dead dude ? Are you Sean Penn in Fast Times at Ridgemont High ? Dead Dude ? Are you a 1980's fraternity boy ?
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05.10.12, 05:23 PM
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and if i am?
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05.10.12, 05:31 PM
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Presumably if you are on UB you are not. In any case you sound silly.
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Duh, of course not. OP is Emilio Estevez from Breakfast Club.
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05.10.12, 08:01 PM
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How can you defend Romney over this?
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05.10.12, 05:24 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAA. You verrry silly man
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05.10.12, 05:26 PM
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Feed the troll here
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05.10.12, 05:27 PM
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That doesn't even bother me as much as the dog story to be honest. That is sociopathic behavior. And the dog story is verified. As is the story about his close friend actually taking part in beating a dog to death and setting him on fire.
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05.10.12, 05:32 PM
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What's the dog on fire story??
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05.10.12, 05:33 PM
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what dog on fire story?
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05.10.12, 05:37 PM
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That's his BF Fred Malek. Just hosted Ann Romney's birthday party. Mitt was not involved in that incident-I don't think-but he and his friends certainly feel entitled to dominate whatever/whomever they choose, don't they?
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05.10.12, 05:40 PM
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oh, now we are guilty by association during teenage years while obama goes scott-free on jeremiah wright and bill ayers in his forties.
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05.10.12, 05:59 PM
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Your memory is faulty. The republicans and Fox News were going NUTS over Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. It blew over, like this surely will.
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05.10.12, 08:13 PM
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Wow, I never heard that. But was Romney involved? Or he just knew a kid who did something horrible? B/c though horrible, if Romney was not there or involved it does not have anything to do with Mitt. If the was there cheering the other person on, that is of course totally different and sick!
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05.10.12, 05:35 PM
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He runs with a sociopathic crowd.
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05.10.12, 05:37 PM
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No, it's his current adult friend- who recently hosted Ann Romney's bday party- and the friend was arrested in his 20s for taking part in the beating, skinning, and BBQing of a dog while they were drinking. Fred Malek is his name. So Romney is currently friends with the man- wasn't a childhood thing
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05.10.12, 05:39 PM
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The patterns of behavior are narcissistic, to say the least. Entitlement, domination, no empathy for another being. Scary traits.
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05.10.12, 05:43 PM
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sick
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05.10.12, 05:43 PM
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Insane. I can't imagine this guy is anything but a sadistic jerk even now. However, I don't know if this reflects on Romney. We all have friends or relatives who aren't such great people. (BTW I'm Obama all the way, but just not sure this is relevant to a "character" discussion, though I do think bullying a gay teen IS relevant.)
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05.10.12, 05:54 PM
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I don't. guilty by association, and people will judge you by the friends you keep. I'm not friends with animal abusers.
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05.10.12, 06:04 PM
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+1,000,000!
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+1000. If I found out a friend of mine once tortured a dog (as an adult, not even as a child) I wouldn't be able to look at them anymore. It would just change their character so entirely, I'd be afraid of them honestly. The fact that ROmney can look past this is telling.
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05.10.12, 06:15 PM
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why is this any worse than killing a deer and barbecuing it? the man also claims to have had no actual part in the killing. it was over 50 years ago while in college. romney didn't know the man at the time and this man chaired a bunch of things for a bunch of republicans. yet, it comes out now. smells... desperate! this, too, is not going to stick.
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05.10.12, 06:15 PM
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Yeah he chaired things like trying to ferret out the Jews.
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05.10.12, 06:16 PM
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whatev. hating jews wasn't a partisan pastime. democrats were doing it, too. keep your shirt on.
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05.10.12, 07:08 PM
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I thought on this board there was a consensus that bullying is wrong. OP, seriously, Romney was not a kid then, he was a teenager. This is sociopathic behavior.
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05.10.12, 05:37 PM
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It certainly sounds like stupid, entitled, rich boy frat boy awfulness. Sociopathic, not sure.... But horrible.
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05.10.12, 05:57 PM
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It's not only the Obama camp. Republicans are just as disgusted by Mitt Romney. We are defecting to the other side.
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05.10.12, 05:38 PM
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you're a lone idiot calling herself defecting republican.
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05.10.12, 06:00 PM
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our resident troll is here
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05.10.12, 05:40 PM
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Romney better be careful- Every sin will lead to eternal condemnation (Romans 6:23). All sin, no matter how “small,” is against an infinite and eternal God, and is therefore worthy of an infinite and eternal penalty. And lying about the incident which he is doing now is a sin. If he argues against homosexuality because it's a sin he will have argue against liars too.
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05.10.12, 06:12 PM
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I think this may backfire because ultimately the country may not be ready to address homophobia the way it addressed racial issues- not to mention that Obama has been shown to be a serious vaccillator (sp?) on what is becoming a big issue due to his pronouncement. So between this and Romney lowering taxes, he may win
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05.10.12, 07:28 PM
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well, no, but I can smell the desperation in your post.
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