The newest trend in NYC education is to get a group of like-minded parents together and hire several tutors for a small group of same-age kids. Technically it is homeschooling. However, the parents share the cost of the private tutors and thus it is far less expensive than traditional private school. Parents who do this aren't necessarily religious (like homeschooling in the midwest) although they can customize the curriculum any way they see fit. Thoughts?
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04.15.12, 05:32 PM
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it's fine, and nyc didn't come up with this.
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04.15.12, 05:33 PM
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op - I don't think I credited NYC for coming up with this. I just stated that New Yorkers are doing this
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04.15.12, 05:39 PM
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she is right.
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04.15.12, 05:58 PM
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I love it. If I don't like dc's school next year and can afford this then I'll go for it.
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04.15.12, 05:33 PM
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I wonder how it's done, though.....what are the steps?
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04.15.12, 06:19 PM
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I wonder if there are any companies that cull together all the resources? Math programs and workbooks, etc. so that the philosophy is seamless but the instructors are implementing it and not required to come up with it on their own.
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04.15.12, 05:35 PM
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That's called a private school
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04.15.12, 05:36 PM
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no a resource company. A private school can't exist with 6 kids solo
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04.15.12, 05:37 PM
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tons of online resources for homeschoolers.
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04.15.12, 05:36 PM
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But too much for the average person to sift through
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04.15.12, 05:59 PM
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I would love it. It maybe difficult to find a set of parents who will agree enough on the curriculum.
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04.15.12, 05:36 PM
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It's essentially a small, unregulated private school. No oversight, no criminal background checks on the tutors, no clear lines of communication or authority when problems develop. What happens when one of the parents decide that one of the tutors is no good? and the other parents don't agree? It's all good until something goes wrong and when it goes wrong, it goes wrong in a big, big way.
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04.15.12, 05:37 PM
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are you a lawyer?
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04.15.12, 05:38 PM
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true. I wonder if one parent is in the home, though, to be certain no foul play. Maybe they hire from local grad schools of education
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04.15.12, 05:38 PM
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Home schooling is regulated.
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04.15.12, 05:39 PM
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Right. I think there are state tests they are required to pass in order to legitimize the experience
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04.15.12, 05:41 PM
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NOT in NJ - kids aren't even tested to see if they are learning anything.
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04.15.12, 05:42 PM
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That's completely untrue.
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04.15.12, 05:42 PM
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No, it's completely true. My bf home schools, because her son was bullied. The state of NJ requires NOTHING. She doesn't have to check in at all - not once a year - nothing.
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04.15.12, 05:50 PM
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Wow - you're right. Scary!!!!
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04.15.12, 05:56 PM
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It's a fascinating option for us school-obsessed NYers
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04.15.12, 05:57 PM
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np. Yep, totally true. I have a coworker who moved to NJ specifically because of its lax (nonexistent) homeschooling regulations, because he and his wife didn't want to deal with any bureaucratic oversight while they homeschooled their kids.
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04.15.12, 06:02 PM
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May groups of parents provide home instruction collectively by engaging the services of a tutor to provide group instruction to their children?
Parents providing home instruction to their children may arrange to have their children instructed in a group situation for particular subjects but not for a majority of the home instruction program. Where groups of parents organize to provide group instruction by a tutor for a majority of the instructional program, they are operating a nonpublic school and are no longer providing home instruction. Substantial equivalency of a nonpublic school program is not determined pursuant to Section 100.10 of the Regulations of the Commissioner.
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04.15.12, 05:42 PM
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I thought you were a lawyer.
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04.15.12, 05:45 PM
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This is fascinating. Thank you so much for your thorough knowledge
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04.15.12, 05:54 PM
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Actually, it's not homeschooling, technically. Technically, once you get a group of non-related families together and start paying teachers to educate your kids, you're operating a private school. You may fly under the radar for a good long while, but it's technically illegal, since you have no accreditation, insurance, or anything else required to operate a private school.
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04.15.12, 05:43 PM
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I really wanted to do this when my child was in elementary school. I knew it was illegal and fraught, but it's such a good solution. My child was way ahead of his classmates, was bored, didn't fit in, etc. A small setting with bright kids eager to learn, and a really smart teacher would have made a huge difference. I don't really see why parents can't decide to take on whatever risks a private group tutoring situation has; if we are willing to sign waivers, etc why does the state have to be involved?
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04.15.12, 07:24 PM
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because it's just another way to control us
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04.15.12, 07:51 PM
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Suspicions about parents who take this route officially confirmed.
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04.16.12, 03:27 AM
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Trend? I am sure it happens, but doubt it is enough to call it a trend.
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04.15.12, 05:43 PM
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op - I keep hearing about it
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04.15.12, 05:57 PM
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There was an article about this in the Times a few months ago. It is illegal and also sounds like a PITA.
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04.15.12, 05:47 PM
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Did the Times say it was illegal?
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04.15.12, 05:55 PM
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The Times article was about pre-school and that's very, very different.
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04.15.12, 06:09 PM
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np. The same problems hold if you're talking about elementary school. The OR above that points out it constitutes a private school is correct.
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04.15.12, 06:15 PM
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Thank you for posting this link. I am really looking forward to reading it
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04.15.12, 06:27 PM
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What did they call it a long time ago when tutors worked with really wealthy kids who perhaps traveled a lot. For example....an ambassadors child... Conversely, how do current performing / acting kids get tutored while they are on the road?
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04.15.12, 05:56 PM
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when a child actor is in a film or working on tv show - the show has tutor that instructs the child on set. the children of actors are a different beast.
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04.15.12, 05:58 PM
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MIL was a diplomat's DC. She and most others were sent to boarding schools in the country where their parents were stationed until 8th grade, then back to boarding school in their home country for high school. MIL was at her first boarding school at age 7, in India in the late 1940s, then to HS in the US, while her parents were in the Philippines.
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04.15.12, 06:09 PM
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My father was the son of a diplomat. He had a governess.
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04.15.12, 08:22 PM
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cool! the kids will be friends for life
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04.15.12, 05:58 PM
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I imagine it alleviates the loneliness of traditional homeschooling.
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04.15.12, 06:18 PM
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i think it's brilliant. if i could find a group of families to do this with in boston for K, i'd be all over it. any takers?
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04.15.12, 06:05 PM
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I'm thinking the ORs claiming this sounds like just a *fantastic* idea have young DC and have never tried to actually plan or run something with other parents.
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04.15.12, 06:29 PM
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I am one of the OR's who is an actual teacher. So it is right up my alley.
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04.15.12, 06:34 PM
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Among my most treasured childhood memories are those from school; teachers, friends, recess, field trips, different classes, etc. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want their children to go to school to experience 'school'.
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04.15.12, 08:28 PM
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I think it is totally bizarre but, apparently, am alone in this belief on UB.
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04.16.12, 03:29 AM
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