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  • [-]How would you deal with this situation? Fiance' hosts a weekly sports get together in the community where we live. A regular attendee is a single mother who self identifies as a MILF. She flirts shamelessly in my presence. This weekend she sent my DH a text on Sunday morning-which he showed me- that her estranged BF/DH had had her arrested and she needed somewhere to stay immediately (we own a few apartments.) He has been very good about saying no and not being encouraging and says he would never do anything to make me feel uncomfortable. Still I feel tremendously annoyed. WWYD?

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    11.16.09, 05:30 PM [ Flag ]
    • Shoot Her!

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      11.16.09, 05:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Next time you see her, just let her know, kindly, that fiance told you all about what a hard time she is having. Make it clear he tells you everything.

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      11.16.09, 05:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • that is good advice. Is this a public thing? If it is not why must she even be invited?

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        11.16.09, 05:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • It's kind of a word of mouth thing, regular meetup. It's established that she comes around already so I don't want it known that I had her banished.

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          11.16.09, 05:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • But that does not mean that I don't wish she would just go away.

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            11.16.09, 05:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • that is totally fair on your part! Do women usually attend this? Is this in your home together. I mean I get what you are saying and your fiance seems totally on the up and up but you can't have this in your home. I mean let's just go with the arrested thing - what the f? I mean you don't want this drama around

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              11.16.09, 05:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • so wish I could imagine myself saying these very words looking all kindly, but I just despise women like her. I was a single mom myself for a awhile and I never threw myself at anyone's else's SO.

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        11.16.09, 07:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I plan on doing just that, Thank you!

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        11.16.09, 10:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • milf sounds like a huge, dumb troublemaker. ew.

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      11.16.09, 06:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I just feel completely awful that to stop her coming around I have to be the heavy. If fiance tells her she can't come over anymore then it's likely to drive it underground. I just feel miserable.

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        11.16.09, 07:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • juicy - what was she arrested for? I think you should ask her that...

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      11.16.09, 06:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • This person is BAD NEWS. Tell fiance that she and her whole situation make you feel queasy and want to end any connection right now. Call her and tell her that the sports events are being watered down and you won't be able to have her there; say lots of things are going on in your lives now as the reason and just leave it at that. Get rid of this one!!

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      11.17.09, 01:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • OP here- I laid out how I feel and unbelievably she called him and asked if she and her kids could spend the night! He said absolutely not of course and told me all about it. How can I make this go away for good. It's a small town and if we keep hosting the sports events it is bound to get back to her.

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      11.19.09, 07:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I love these trailer trash stories. Keep us posted how it plays out.

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        11.19.09, 07:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • OP here. Thanks for making me laugh. Now "tt" can take on a whole new meaning on here...

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          11.19.09, 07:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • you gotta admit -- most UBers don't have this sort of dilemma. We're too worried our 3 year old isn't on track for the Ivy League. And that if our next bonus isn't big enough, we can't afford Park Avenue.

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            11.19.09, 07:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • yes, but what better set of women to poll for the catty insight they can offer for those unfortunate who are slumbound! Maybe we should move to Park Avenue so the MILF can be seen out by the doorman...

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              11.19.09, 08:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Your husband sounds like a great guy for keeping you informed and not being shady. Let him know you appreciate this cuz if you freak out too much, in the future if another milf comes your way, he won't tell you. i don't have any solution for getting rid of her though...

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        11.19.09, 01:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • He is a great guy and I have let him know. Do you think though that insisting she never come back a form of over-reaction?

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          11.19.09, 03:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • i think it's weird to ban her, because then you would be known as the 'banner' and then maybe other women in the group might feel scared to hang out with your husband. she can keep coming, and once she sees that your dh is not receptive/being a little standoffish (yet polite), she'll probably step back. i mean, hopefully she can take a hint. but if u have any inkling that your hubby likes the attention, is looking forward to her coming, etc. then yes, definitely crackdown.

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            11.19.09, 04:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Thanks for the advice. The only thing is that I believe she is real persistent. She asked to live in our downstairs apartment-twice- was told no firmly, then proceeded to ask about spending the night just a few days later. I don't know why I can't just let this go. Maybe I need to take tranquilisers until this blows over.

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              11.19.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Meant really persistent

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                11.19.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • It's not you, it's her. If she would stop bugging you guys, you wouldn't have to worry about it. It sounds like you feel a little guilty, but know that she's bad news that would probably suck you and your fiance into a vortex of trouble (such as, how would you get her out once she came to stay?) If you could find her some sort of social service or community help, would that be the ticket?

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                11.19.09, 07:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Tonight on the phone I asked if he had heard from her today and he just said you really can't let this go, can you?

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                  11.19.09, 09:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • I am so upset. I feel he is utterly lacking in compassion. I started to cry. I just can't help it and I know that is one of my flaws, that I tend to overthink things.

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                    11.19.09, 09:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • LISTEN TO ME: You are very right in doing WHATEVER has to be done to put a lid on this woman. I have seen women operate like this and they have one thing only in mind and that is, to move into your territory. This woman is acting the "poor me, i'm helpless and need a shining knight to protect me" type and your fiance is on the cusp of falling for the whole act. It's actually good if it gets back to her that she's not invited to the sport's events, then, the might get the message. Do not back down.

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                      11.19.09, 11:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • btw i'm the responder who said "i think it's weird" but all these other responses below aren't me.

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                        11.19.09, 11:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Thanks so much for your response. All week have not been able to eat or sleep over this. My fiance' says I am obsessing and I know that's partially true. I just wonder if men can really empathise. He is/has been VERY jealous of me in the past, and I went all out to convince him there was nothing to worry about.So you revised your stance that I should have her banned from the event?

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                          11.20.09, 04:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Hi - I'm the responder that started with "LISTEN TO ME" and I in no way have revised anyting. I have felt from the onset that this woman is bad news for your life. Whatever it takes, insist that you don't want her presence at any events because you find her actions inappropriate. I have known a person similar to what you describe and she's ruthless and relentless. Your fiance won't/can't see it because he's fallen for her act. It would actually be good if she finds out she's not invited anymore so she'll finally get the hint. Good luck!!

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                          11.20.09, 04:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Also want to add, once you've gotten her out of your social life and it's over and done, then you can let go of the whole thing. You don't need to continue thinking about it now that it's been decided that she's history in your house and lives. So go get your relationship back on track now!

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                          11.20.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]bookmom/playing librarian here. Anyone need any book recs? Tell what you enjoy reading and we'll give new suggestion. Or for your kids (give gender,age,fave books).

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    11.12.09, 07:38 PM [ Flag ]
    • did you come from ybm? or were you always on both?

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      11.12.09, 07:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • girl, 5, ready to be read good chapter books - but probl too young for Secret Garden, etc? Other than Ramona the Pest, what is there?

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      11.12.09, 07:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Try Mrs Piggle Wiggle, The BFG by Dahl, Mr. Popper's Penguins. And have you read her My Father's Dragon series yet? If you both have stamina, try The Last of the Really Great Whangdoodles, too.

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        11.12.09, 07:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ^^^and don't forget Little House in the Big Woods

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          11.12.09, 08:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think age 6 *first grage* is great for reading A Little Princess. It might be a bit "wordy" for five year old. The vocabulary is very rich (as in many older children's books) and it can be fun to make a game of listening for and writing down new words.

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          11.13.09, 07:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np--Rumer Godden has small chapter books that are well-written. My dd loved Mouse House and The Story of Holly and Ivy. The latter is a Christmas story. There are also the Jenny and the Cat Club books by Esther Averill. Also, don't leave picture books behind at this age. There are wonderful books (William Steig's Brave Irene; Helga's Dowry by Tomie De Paola, and Elsie Piddock Skips in her Sleep by Eleanor Farjeon have great heroines, for example.)

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        11.13.09, 03:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 6yo boy, interested in the darker side of life but hasn't been exposed to much mainstream media, trying to find gentle ways to introduce him to scarier things, not even close to ready for HP

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      11.12.09, 07:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 9 yo boy likes Tolkein and LeGuin. Trying Bradbury and Asimov. Others?

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      11.12.09, 07:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 2.3 yo girl, totally digs Bartholemew (sp?) and the Oobleck, Where the Sidewalk Ends, The Missing Piece Meets the Big O, Yertle the Turtle. We've also done Blueberries for Sal so many times she's bored.

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      11.12.09, 08:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: lots of classics! Try The Rain Came Down, The Dragon Machine, Bats at the Beach (and Bats at the Library), The Reluctant Dragon,The Gardner, Miss Bindergarten Gets Ready for Kindergarten by Slater(fun rhymes and letter sounds and great before starting pre-school) and of course, Caps for Sale

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        11.12.09, 08:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np--Miss Rumphius by Barbara Cooney is a lovely book for this age and slightly older.

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        11.13.09, 03:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Thanks for the recommendations!

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      11.12.09, 08:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Nonfiction reader here needing a rec.

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      11.12.09, 08:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: I read something a little different this week: Close to Shore about the Shark attack on the Jersey Shore in 1916. Interspersed with soooo much information about the Edwardian era in American as well as contemporary understanding of sharks and their habits

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        11.12.09, 08:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 6 yo liked Harry Potter (1&2), Chronicles of Narnia, Little House series, Wrinkle in Time. Did not love Pippi Longstocking. Is interested in Ella Enchanted, Little Princess, loves Bow to the Moon and Trumpet of the Swan. What else? TIA!

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      11.12.09, 08:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • The Ordinary Princess by MM Kaye, All of a Kind Family by Sidney Taylor, Betsy Tacy By Lovelace, Igraine the Brave and if you have good stamina for a much longer book Dragon Rider (both by Funke)

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        11.12.09, 08:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ^op: and Sisters Grimm would be fun to read, as well

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          11.13.09, 04:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Thank you!! I heard about Percy and Olympian? Is that a good book? Dc reads independently but likes longer books now and is into fantasy. Or about animals in fiction.

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          11.13.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • OP This book works much better for an older kid as it deal with middle school issues. I bet she would love Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH, but again. pretty long and complicated Other fun fantasy that is still age appropriate: Indian in the Cupboard, Tales of Deperaux, Eddie Eager's books (starting with Half Magic). I'll re-emphasize Sisters Grimm Series. And consider Gregor the Overlander.

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            11.13.09, 11:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • ^^she might also like the Warrior series. Some kids go crazy over them! (cats) And look into Lloyd Alexander's series: the Chroncicles of Prydain

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              11.13.09, 12:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Thank you soooo much!!! It's hard to find books that are interesting enough but age appropriate. Will look into it!!

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              11.13.09, 01:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • op: other animal books inlcude those by Estes like Ginger Pye. She also wrote The Witch Family. Look into The Worst Witch series an also Bedknob and Broomsick

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            11.13.09, 12:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • are you still around bookmom

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      11.16.09, 01:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Loved Water for Elephants, Sara Gruen. Would love some fiction recs!

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      11.16.09, 02:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: a few ideas for you. If you were intrigued by "circus" life, Geek Love is a classic, but a bit freaky about a family where the parents intentionally create children to be in the Freak show. If you prefer historical fiction , try Loving Frank....about Frank Lloyd Wright and his Mistress, from her perspective. For an interesting outlier..a bit Dickensian, but much easier to read, try The Good Thief by Hannah Tinti

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        11.16.09, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Rec. for me. I love Phillip Roth - especially Everyman, American Pastoral. Would like something along those lines...

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      11.18.09, 07:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: I love Roth also. My personal fave is THe Plot Against America (not typical Roth, I know), followed closely by American Pastoral. Have you read any Richard Russo? I rec. Bridge of Sighs. Great family saga. YOu might also consider The Story of Edgart Sawtelle. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this books (desite being an Oprah pick). Updike is a natural choice for you as well. If you haven't read his Witches of Eastwick, do so. Nothing like the silly movie it inspired.

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        11.19.09, 08:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]My husband want to get the H1N1 vaccine for my ds but I feel concerned about it...all my dr. friends are not giving it to their kids. Do they know something I don't? What are you all doing?

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    11.17.09, 08:29 AM [ Flag ]
    • If I can find it, I'll get it.

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      11.17.09, 08:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ditto. swine flu is serious business.

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        11.17.09, 08:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • as serious as any other common flu strain

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          11.17.09, 08:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • look at the amount of babies/small children that have died of h1n1 since april in comparison to the regular flu (REALLY, LOOK IT UP.) then run your mouth.

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            11.17.09, 09:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • look at how many babies and small children die from other flu strains. Dude, H1N1 is a flu. The body reacts to it. Everybody is different. The only disadvantage we have is that it is an entirely brand new strain (well, not quite but close enough) and if you get it you'll get sick, no way around it. Kids and small children will always get hit the hardest. That's not H1N1 specific, though.

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              11.17.09, 09:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • dude? wow. are you speaking from actual facts? If a person was interested in how lethal h1n1 is on babies (in comparison to regular flu, not compared to other people) they would look it up and see that, since april, h1n1 has taken the lives of DOUBLE the amount of the regular seasonal flues, through the WHOLE YEAR, combined. clearly, it's hitting much harder then regular flu. Dude.

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                11.17.09, 09:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • The mortality rate of H1N1 is not higher than other flu strains. In absolute numbers, yes, you are right, more babies and small children have died. That doesn't make H1N1 more lethal, though. That is a fact.

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                  11.17.09, 10:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • The mortality rate of H1N1 is not any worse than any of the other flu strains. Yes, H1N1 seems to infect the younger folks more but that doesn't make H1N1 more lethal.

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              11.17.09, 09:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • DH is a doctor - he thinks it is more important to wash your hands than to get the H1N1. He said very important to get standard flu shot though.

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        11.17.09, 09:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • we are not doing it but many of my friends are

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      11.17.09, 08:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • we got it. all our dr friends got it for their kids :)

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      11.17.09, 08:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • getting it for everyone in the family as soon as I can find it

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      11.17.09, 08:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Why not ask your Dr friends what they know?

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      11.17.09, 08:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • they're not talking!1

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        11.17.09, 08:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I don't know why, but I think you are not telling the truth. I don't think you have even asked them. And I am sure they are getting the shots.

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          11.17.09, 08:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • They are not getting the shots and they said it was a personal choice. I don't know why your remark is so irksome, why go on an anonymous board and lie? I don't know why, but I think your comment reveals something about you.

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            11.17.09, 10:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • don't know a single doc who is against the vaccine. (absent some specific health condition). Their families are all getting the shot.

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        11.17.09, 08:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Our ped gave our kids the H1N1 shot at their well-visits.

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      11.17.09, 08:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • MDMom-gave it to my dc

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      11.17.09, 09:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • are these doctors PhDs? Like with degrees in Art History or Linguistics? I know of no physician who has kids who is against the H1N1 vaccine. (Hell, I know of none who don't have kids who is against it but that is a different issue.)

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      11.17.09, 09:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Never heard of an actual MD who treats patients who is anti-vax for the H1N1. That said, my ped said she gave the vaccine to her kids, and suggested mine get it, too. Which he did.

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      11.17.09, 09:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • we were ready, willing, and able to go to our ped/GP for shot, but they didn't have it. so we stood online at free clinic to get them. i'm glad we did but sad that we took someone else's free shots.

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      11.17.09, 09:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My DH is an ER doc. Having seen the kids who got hit the hardest, he called in favors to get our DD the HINI vaccine.

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      11.17.09, 09:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • A dad from our school said their pediatrician actually advised against it. Not sure why, I think he said it just wasn't that bad. Having said that, I disagree and had DC get both seasonal flu and H1N1 mist vaccine, and I had no hesitation in doing so.

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      11.17.09, 09:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i don't know why any doctor would not give it to their own children. you have to look at the actual arguments on each side, not just go by what other people do and their vague reasons. for me it was pretty straightforward: there have been NO adverse reactions to the vaccine, there have been many deaths/serious illnesses from the swine flu.

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      11.17.09, 10:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I am an MD and gave both kids flumist. There are shortages so a lot of docs are denying so people don't think they "pulled strings." HTH

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      11.17.09, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]I hate people who don't like to try new or culturally different food. It really tells me a lot about who they are and I lose respect for them.

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    11.20.09, 08:08 AM [ Flag ]
    • Wow how retarded

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      11.20.09, 08:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • So you're telling OP she is rigid in HER thinking by calling her "retarded?" Who is close-minded in the thinking dpt. now? My retarded child is perfectly happy to try new foods. I would not be perfectly happy to meet either of you.

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        11.20.09, 09:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • OK. Because someone might be a wonderfully caring friend who constantly goes out of her way to help other people, and a lovely, intelligent, person who is fun to be around, but you know, if she's a picky eater, it's just appalling and you really should "hate" her and get her out of your life as soon as possible.

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      11.20.09, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • this really tells me a lot about who you are and i have no respect for you! signed, an adventurous but non-judgmental eater

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      11.20.09, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • some people have stomach issues.

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      11.20.09, 08:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA. i have an awful stomach issues and have to be very careful with certain spicy, ethnic foods, especially when dining out and i generally avoid trying anything new when in public. hopefully no one is jumping to this unfair conclusion about me.

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        11.20.09, 03:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • If you re-wrote your post to be something like: "I often discover that I don't appreciate people who are always unwilling to try new foods," then I might agree with you. But I don't always feel like trying something new- sometimes I want something tried and true.

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      11.20.09, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Fine, might sound judgemental but I'm coming from a point of view of someone who is not American and when I offer food from my country of origin, I find that there are two different responses. Those who eagerly try and the ones who make a face and decline (or reluctantly take a teeny tiny bit). I've seen this enough all my life and have made my own very unscientific conclusion about these types of people and I'm usually right in my own very personal judgement.

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      11.20.09, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • curious--what culture food? i'm super open, and trying new food from different cultures is wonderful. i can't think of a single cuisine i haven't tried!

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        11.20.09, 08:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • You are correct that people who make a face or are reluctant are likely not especially adventurous people in general and may not rush into trying new things. If that's what you value, great. To me, that's way down the list -- after being a very kind and considerate person and someone with whom I'm able to have an intelligent conversation and who is generally happy and fun to be around.

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        11.20.09, 08:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Now I would agree with you. I really enjoy when someone is adventurous or open-minded to things outside their comfort zone, and I find those who aren't to be dull, and often sheltered, but that's just my preference in friends.

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        11.20.09, 08:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I don't like to travel internationally or dine at nice restaurants with these people, and maybe don't do teh fancy dinenr parties with them as a guest, but hate is kind of a strong word-

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      11.20.09, 08:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP here: yes, hate was a strong word. I just had an experience from the night before that had me a bit incensed and confirming strongly what I feel about people unwilling to try new food. I find this person incredibly boring and closed minded to begin with so no loss I guess...

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        11.20.09, 08:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I'm trying to figure out who taught my 3 yo the word hate.

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      11.20.09, 08:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I want you to try cow's eyes, whale tongue, or some other delicacies from other parts of the world.

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      11.20.09, 08:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • my brother is like this. he thinks panda express is "too fancy" and only eats kfc, burger king, and mcdonalds. i've never seen him eat a fruit. he's not fat at all either, he's 6 ft and 140 lbs. he always orders plain cheese pizza, plain vanilla ice cream, etc. i get so bored just looking at it!! it matches with his personality too, he's a very loyal friend, nice guy, but doesn't like to travel, meet new people. He has all the same friends since childhood and does the exact same thing everyday. I have met a few people like this, and the funny thing is whenever i ask "is your fave ice cream vanilla" they are so shocked, like i am a clairvoyant or something. Anyway, I would go nuts if my spouse was 'boring' like this, seriously i can't stand...

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      11.20.09, 09:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I hate people who hate.

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      11.20.09, 09:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Well first of all hate is a strong word. Why would you dislike someone because they don't want to try new food, seems odd. Since you are so ethnically superior then go to Japan and try their squid ice cream. That's right, they have it and the people LOVE it.

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      11.20.09, 09:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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