[-]Regardless of her spunk, ambition and dogged determination, how can a thinking, logical person think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president..? Baffling.
139 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]ITA. This woman considered a question about 'which magazines and newspapers she reads' to be manipulative.
[ Reply | Options ]What amazes me is that is an ok answer for some. "Ewww, the tricky Katie Couric asked me a surprise question I had no way of answering without preparing for it." In the middle of an interview to be the #2 political person in the country a heartbeat away from the red phone, "What is the cube root of twenty seven?" is a trick question. Not what do you read?
[ Reply | Options ]or: well exactly. And isn't that telling? That she needs to "prepare" a response about what she reads? Because perhaps she doesn't read anything of real substance? Which speaks to how much she KNOWS about the world around her? Surreal all of it, really. I'm not running for president but could come up "the right" answer in a heartbeat.
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IF you agree with her, you mgith think she is qualified. there is a really strong anti-elite current in US political thought, and she is seen as a great example of that
[ Reply | Options ]ITA. I wouldn't hire Sarah Palin to be a showroom assistant, hanging up clothing that customers try on (I don't think she's smart enough to put everything back where it actually belongs), but I know that there are people out there that think well-educated, articulate people are scary and shouldn't be making decisions that impact "real people". I am not the smartest person out there, I don't have the best education, but I want people who are a lot smarter than I am making the decisions that I know I'm not capable of sorting through.
[ Reply | Options ]op: I get anti elite - I really do. But I do not get anti, plain old qualified. Without an ounce of sarcasm, based on competence alone - I am more qualified. And I'm no Einstein.
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Her resume is quite similar to what Barrack Obama's was before he was elected, with the minor difference that Sarah Palin had some executive experience, and he did not. I personally detest Sarah Palin, but the level of Orwellian doublethink that surrounds the issue of her qualifications vis-a-vis those of our sitting president astounds me.
[ Reply | Options ]Has she ever read the US Constitution? He taught law school classes on Constitutional Law. I think there is a substantial difference in their resumes, he actually a respectable one. Her's is a bad joke.
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you can't possibly compare her education to Obama's. She went to 4 different colleges to end up with a degree in journalism and a goal to be a sports commentator on tv. She is a total lightweight.
[ Reply | Options ]She's done pretty well for being such a dumb lightweight. Of course, Obama has vastly superior academic credentials, but I don't understand why you think Palin's executive experience is irrelevant, even so.
[ Reply | Options ]The "executive experience" you claim she has is laughable. She was the mayor of a small town, with no real authority (all major departments/infrastructure were handled at the county or state level - she had no authority over police or fire dep'ts). She couldn't handle the responsibility of being Governor of Alaska, so she quit.
[ Reply | Options ]Still better than zero. Also, I'm not sure where you get the idea that she could not handle the responsibility of being Governor of Alaska. Looks to me like she (correctly, if somewhat cynically) saw that she had the opportunity to become a national figure, and like many politicians have and would, left her state position when it no longer suited her ambitions.
[ Reply | Options ]I think you are the one drinking some serious KoolAid. She's not a "national figure", she's a laughingstock, getting into a public shouting match with a teenager. If she wants to be taken seriously, she needs to start acting like it. Finishing the job that she was elected to do would have been a place to start, since she quit that job, she has to make up some ground - let her start publicly speaking on real policy issues to serious groups - Heritage, AIE. Until then, she's just a bad joke who couldn't handle the job she had.
[ Reply | Options ]NP. Hold on. You seem to think SP's experience counts even if she wasn't very good and showed no interest in trying to improve. If she's a lousy mayor/governor, then her experience counts against her, not for her.
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Mayor of a town smaller than most NYC suburbs and used it as her personal feifdom (zoning violations ignored so she could sell her house?). She was elected governor as a reaction to widespread corruption accusations against the incumbent and didn't last half her term. It took her 6+ years and at least 4 colleges to get a bachelor's degree from a 5th rate institution. Wow, she's impressive. If she really wants to build a resume, let her start speaking, on the record, to groups like the Council on Foreign Relations, even the Heritage Foundation would be a good place for her to start, and get out of the gutter war with her grandson's teenaged father. Right now, she looks like a publicity whore with no common sense, not a serious president...
[ Reply | Options ]A dean at a small college has more people they are responsible for than the mayor of Wasilla. And apparently the part time job of governor of Alaska was too much for her.
[ Reply | Options ]And this is (1) more or (2) less executive responsibility/experience than Obama had before the Presidency? As I said, doublethink.
[ Reply | Options ]Your post exists in a vacuum. There are many people I loathe as ppoliticians, but they are qualified, regardless of my opinion of their views. Stop parcing a poor analogy.
[ Reply | Options ]No one ever claimed that he had "executive experience" that you seem to think is all that is the only qualifying factor. His supporters understood that he was/is smart enough to understand his job and it's responsibilities. She, for all her "executive experience", is simply not smart or engaged or capable of understanding the ramifications of her decisions (hence, she quit the only serious job she's ever had because she didn't understand what she had signed on for and couldn't actually do the job).
[ Reply | Options ]But what Obama brought to the table was not Executive experience. I mean John McCain has none either. He never had a command position in the Navy. This is like arguing she should get it because she was the best baton twirler.
[ Reply | Options ]Right, suggesting that being a state governor is relevant preparation for the presidency is like suggesting a baton twirler is.
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Umm, what makes you think the job was too much for her? It seems pretty clear to me she dumped it to further her national aspirations. I'm no fan of hers, but that says "smart move" to me, not "dummy who couldn't handle being Governor."
[ Reply | Options ]You are almost unique in holding that position. Everyone I've heard, GOPer's included, think it was an idiotic and perplexing move.
[ Reply | Options ]If she had "national aspirations" beyond her 15 minutes of fame she wouldn't be whining about not liking the photo on the cover of Newsweek or getting in the mud with her grandson's idiot of a father.
[ Reply | Options ]Is she not the most visible and discussed Republican political figure right now? Don't get me wrong, as a moderate conservative the Sarah Palinization of the GOP makes me weep and gnash my teeth -- you have no idea what it is like lol -- but to characterize her as anything other than a shrewd and capable self-promoter strikes me as inconsistent with the facts.
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Mayor of Walissa (sp?) is basically a popularity contest. Governor was that spunk and determination.
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no, that would be common sense, since she's NOT QUALIFIED or impressive otherwise.
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np: Did you not read about the battle within Wasilla that got her the nomination over the long time mayor? They were both life long Republicans she sicked her church on him... it sounded like Senior Class President at Dysfunction High.
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I looked it up for you. Anchorage Daily News. "'Fresh face' launched Palin: Wasilla mayor was groomed from an early political age". Anchorage Daily News. http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/background/story/510447.html
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I can't stand her but I don't think her resume is the problem, being a governor is good enough (worked for reagan)
[ Reply | Options ]Different states have different types of governments and make very different demands on their governors. California has a very active, demanding, executive office. Alaska (like Texas) does not. This was as true when Ann Richards was governor as it was when GWB was.
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Hey dopey, I gave California credit for having a demanding executive -- aka Reagan. GHWBush had no experience as governor. Texas for GWBush. See, I went back for all the R presidents over my life time. (And I'm not a liberal. If I was I wouldn't have bad mouthed Ann Richards. They love her -- although God knows why.)
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If Obama had ever read the Constitution he would know there is nothing in the Constitution that permits him to do most of what he has done (and wants to do) as President. Obama has more contempt for the constitution than any President in my lifetime.
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executive experience, in this case, is a red herring. McCain ddn't have any. and obama had more private sector experience thatn either mccain or palin. but if you want to make obama look unqualified, you drag this argument out.
[ Reply | Options ]You're really saying that executive experience is a red herring? Bizarre. BTW, I'm not attempting to make Obama look bad: I think Obama won the election because he was both a better candidate and a better campaigner than John McCain. The point is that, viewed objectively, Obama's and Palin's experience are sufficiently equivalent that it is irrational to view her as grossly unqualified while treating Obama as qualified. FWIW, I voted for Obama, but the endless and unfair Palin-bashing is most unreasonable.
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np: I see it like this - sometimes you interview someone inexperienced in the actual job and hire them anyway because their education/degrees, life experience, other job experience, other credentials and intelligence lead you to believe that they will be very good at that job. Then you meet other people, whose resume seems to suggest that they have relevant experience at the job and yet based on their education/degrees and your dealings with them, you truly wonder how they ever got the job. Oftentimes you find out that the job was not really what it appeared to be, or that there was nepotism involved or that there were company "politics" at play and somehow this person ended up in a place far beyond their abilities.
[ Reply | Options ]their experience was about the same level. his education is superior, but there are lots of qualified intelligent people who don't have access to that level of academia. palin is probably not one of them, but i am completely offended as a woman by the sexist jabs at her by her detractors. between how the dems treated hillary and palin, they have lost my respect.
[ Reply | Options ]Intelligent people, of either gender, don't consider "what newspapers do you read" to be a trick question or one that needs prep. My grandmother, who never graduated from high school, could have answered that question without stumbling over it (and had a real answer - the Miami Herald). Palin couldn't answer it and didn't (and still hasn't). I don't think that showing Palin as she really is, inarticulate and willfully ignorant, is unfair or sexist.
[ Reply | Options ]I think her point was the mainstream media was just looking to find something wrong with her. She was trying to guard her words. Honestly, you should get passed the fact that you don't like Republicans and look at it in a fair light. She knew she was walking into a lion's den and her handlers were keeping a muzzle on her. I think she deserves a pass. Both parties have candidates that say stupid things all the time. Biden for one, Gore with the internet, Bush, etc...
[ Reply | Options ]No, that was her explanation after the fact for why she flubbed the question. It's not that I don't like Republicans, I've voted for Republicans, I just don't like her. There were at least 3 other Republican women who should have been on that ticket before her - Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Olympia Snow and Susan Collins would all have been much better choices. If Palin couldn't handle a real softball from Katie Couric without being caught off guard, how would she be with Vladimir Putin?
[ Reply | Options ]But see this is what kills me, Gore never said he invented the internet. "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." A. Gore But you repeat a lie enough and the dopes out in the hinterland who won't bother to read and figure things out for themselves will buy it hook line and sinker.
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What I don't get is that she keeps getting a pass on being so poorly qualified. Bobby Jindal is smarter than she is, and usually better prepared/more articulate but when he did so poorly on the Republican response to an Obama address to Congress he faded into the woodwork. She keeps inserting her foot into her mouth, gets called on it, responds "you're being sexist", and keeps going. Pointing out her absolute lack of education and non-existant intellectual curiosity isn't sexist.
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What makes a community activist qualified to be President? What about an actor or a peanut farmer?
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no. one of them has good PEOPLE skills and is a wonderful prolific speaker. the peanut farmer, I am still scratching my head about that one... I guess other than party affiliation they can both pride themselves in the fact that they are both nobel laureates?
[ Reply | Options ]Jimmy Carter was a nuclear engineer in the Navy. He was no hayseed. He also was a non-Washington person in the post Nixon era.
[ Reply | Options ]and he lasted only 4 years. people were disenchanted with nixon, fine. Sorry, I was half kidding with my comments. I am (obviously) no huge carter fan, but the truth is he is a very intelligent guy. not much street smarts though IMVHO which I think is a large part of why he was a 1 term president. my point was more that you dont have to be a senior senator with 30 years of experience in politics to be elected president.
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More qualified that Obama, easily. She actually ran a state while he was just 1 of 100 senators (and he rarely voted, instead voting "present" on hard issues). I don't want her to be president, for my own reasons, but she is definitely "qualified".
[ Reply | Options ]The basic issue is that the people decided in 2008 that they did not want "qualified". McCain was far and away the most qualified of the 4, with Biden clearly in second place. McCain realized his qualifications were a liability and chose her in an attempt to dilute his qualifications. But in the end, and unqualified President trumped an unqualified Vice President in the eyes of the people. Now, a year later we are just starting to see the result of that choice, and just starting to realize it might have been a mistake.
[ Reply | Options ]um yeah--his "qualifications" were a liability? How about that he had foolishly sold out his "maverick" positions to kowtow to GWB, turned his back on his own bipartisan immigration bill, and suddenly seemed--in contrast to 2000--older, weaker, less decisive? In an attempt to reassure the right he lurched and stumbled--couldn't decide how to handle the financial crisis, and then yes--picked the MILF from Alaska instead of Pawlenty or some other serious contender. Foolish, foolish, foolish. And seriously--I'd just love to hear what you think he'd have done differently to solve the financial crisis since he certainly couldn't articulate it thirteen months ago.
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I'm not sure how relevant "executive experience" is. It seems very important to American voters, but I wonder about it. I'm not American, but it appears that the most important aspect of being President is being able to get Congress to pass the bills you want, as painlessly as you can. Doesn't someone with experience in Congress have a higher chance of getting that right? I mean, even if you've run a city, or a state, the issues you'll be dealing with as a head of a country are entirely different.
[ Reply | Options ]The problem is that as a governor, for the most part, you don't have to take stands which piss off half the people. As a Senator, you have to vote on gun control/immigration/funding bills/stimulus packages/etc. so there is all this history behind you. (I'm not saying this is ACTUALLY bad, just that this is one of the reasons political scientists/talking heads often give for why so many more modern presidents have been governors than legislators.)
[ Reply | Options ]The U.S. President is in charge of the federal executive branch -- probably the largest organization in the country, not even counting active duty military as employees -- and most of the day-to-day is managing the demands of that. It is an overwhelmingly huge responsibility. I would imagine that much of the actual work is quite similar -- although more complex and stressful due to the higher stakes, larger scale, and lower degree of control over the organization -- to being the CEO of a big multinational corporation like GE or IBM. Obviously legislative affairs is a larger proportion of the President's work than it would be in a private organization, and Obama's health care priorities throw that into more focus, but managing the executiv...
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Because some people vote with their "guts" and not with their head. It's about who they would share a beer with and pall around with. Voting for the smarter more capable candidate is an admission that the voter is not all that bright and no one wants to feel bad about themselves right? Palin makes peoe feel tough and cool because she can shoot a moose. It's the whole cowboy mystique. Plus, having a degree or an office job does not necessarily make one intelligent.
[ Reply | Options ]I like Palin's values and I know other people who do as well. I don't think she is qualified so it would be hard to vote for her in 2012. It's interesting to me how one's intelligence is measured on how well they can deliver a speech and how cleverly they might come up with an answer, oh and being attractive doesn't hurt (ie. Clinton, Obama) One thing to keep in mind though is people are willing to look past this. The jokes about Bush being dumb were relentless and he was elected twice. My vote included.
[ Reply | Options ]oh, and Palin isn't attractive? Snort. All of those GOP nerdlings were acting like eighth grade boys. As to intelligence--does that really not matter to you? And no, not just "cleverly" answering a question, but intellectual depth, understanding, curiosity...that's not important to you? Just the "values" of someone who seems to be fundamentally dishonest, ruthless, disloyal...? And btw, you still feel good about voting for Bush--really?
[ Reply | Options ]I guess Palin is attractive, that hair just bothers me. Unfortunately voting for me has come down to choosing the lesser of 2 evils, which is what I did when Bush was running. In the last election I wasn't happy with either candidate so I didn't vote for either. Of course intelligence matters, my point was how is seems to be determined by the masses. As for dishonest, ruthless and disloyal I'm not sure what your referring too.
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[-]My 11 yr old dd was assaulted by a woman in the street--she was waiting for a traffic light and a woman came up to her and scratched her back with a key or similar--she has a 3 inch long reddened scratch on her back, and it was through several layers of clothing. The woman ran away before my dd or the adult she was with could do anything--would you follow this up with police? I know this is a relatively mild incident, but I'm concerned about anyone wandering around hurting children. This was a block or so from our apt in what I consider to be a very safe neighborhood.
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[-]DH taking myself and dd on Royal Caribbean cruise to Mediterranean in May, DD will be 25 months. Cruise to Rome, Florence, Barcelona, Cannes, Monaco. Anyone been on cruise and anyone leave their dc in the care of the cruise daycare facility? I've never been on cruise and travel agent talking up ability to leave child with providers but don't know if this is okay or not for a toddler. Any experience with this will be greatly appreciated. TIA
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[-]Trying again to ask DC moms: Where is a good place to live in DC or Northern Virginia with two kids that is more urban/city environment and what are the best preschools in these areas?
15 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]I would stick within the district if you can afford it. Outside is definitely suburban, but you could do Bethesda/Chevy Chase or even Tacoma Park (in MD), or Arlington in VA. In DC, Georgetown, Capital Hill are the most "urban" nice areas (lots within walking distance) with kids. A bit more spread out (but probably even nicer with kids) in DC is Woodley or Cleveland Park.
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Del Ray is near old town, so I walk there a lot. The one problem with it is that in the 70s they build a bunch of subsidized housing near there. Most of it is great, but some of it can be kind of sketchy.
[ Reply | Options ]I've worked in OT for 4 out of the last 5 years and absolutely love it; big issues there are parking and space if you're in a row house, and there's only one grocery store and a Trader Joe's south of Washington Street. OT is definitely more urban than Del Ray and has much better shopping and a wider selection of restaurants, but Del Ray has more families with young kids if that's important to you.
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In Arlington, the Ballston-Rosslyn corridor (the neighborhoods that surround the Orange Line of the Metro) has really come on strong in the past 5+ years, and there are tons of shops, restaurants, etc., as well as good grocery stores and a Whole Foods within walking distance of some really charming neighborhoods (think bungalows, brick colonials, cottages w/big front porches, etc.). If you're considering a move, make sure that you look at your tax rates in DC vs. VA vs. MD - the personal property tax here is exorbitant b/c real estate values are high (like in NYC) and if your'e not renting, it can have a big impact on your bottom line. There are tons of great preschools - many of them are affiliated with churches and there's not the same p...
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[-]I'm really upset with the public MS application process in D3 this year. Every freaking school wants to be put as first choice. Delta has an "official" cutoff of 1385, but due to score inflation parents have no idea what score is going to be good enough (unlike other years). So if we go for Delta and don't FC semi-OK MS like Computer, and DC doesn't get into Delta, we'll end-up in some terrible MS
6 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]If the Delta cutoff is 1385 your dc will get to take the test. After that it's just a matter of how they do on the test and their school record. All the good schools have insisted on being first choice for years now.
[ Reply | Options ]I don't think any score is good enough for Delta if dc bombs the Delta test they are not going to get in. So if you want Delta get dc study for the test. Since they will have a lot more qualified dc applying this year than spots, their own test will be the dealbreaker. As is for many selective middle schools.
[ Reply | Options ]Computer is not "semi-ok" - my dc chose it over Delta as well as quite a few of his friends. If you prefer Delta - great, go for it! No need to disparage Computer School. Computer School has amazing teachers, a great principal, a tight-knit community and a nice facility. It is better than "semi-ok."
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[-]Coming from NYC to Bethesda/Rockville area w/ my husband and almost 3 year old daughter for the week of Thanksgiving to visit my folks. Would love some ideas on fun (conventional or non-conventional) things to do with our daughter. Great kids shows? Entertainment? Fun parks? Museums? Any ideas appreciated. Thanks.
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[-]My dd (who is almost 2 1/2) weighs 24 pounds, which isn't bad but puts her in the 10% tile for weight. However, she recently got over the flu and wasn't eating well so she lost a few pounds. The flu is gone but she hasn't gotten her appetite back yet. She has NEVER been a good eater but it seems so much worse, especially with the drop in weight all the sudden. Everyone tells me not to worry but she is so thin that sometimes I get concerned. She is really active and plays all day but doesn't need much to sustain herself. I worry because at 2 I think she should be in the 25% tile in the least. Everybody makes rude comments about how I don't feed her and people saying inappropriate things.
69 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]Are you and dh thin? Also, when you say you have this expectation that dd should be "at least 25%tile for weight, why is that? The whole point of %tiles is that they represent the normal range for weight. So, 25% of normal kids weigh less than the 25%tile. People suck -- don't let their dumb comments screw with your head or happiness.
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See, you are doing it too. I have to listen to people saying things like this allllll dayyyyyyyy. I teach my older kids to never comment on some else's body. It can hurt feelings.
[ Reply | Options ]I hear you. My 7 month old is a tad under 15 lbs. Have to hear constantly 'oh so little. How old ???!!' My bf had a larger baby and she always heard 'so big ... wow !' It's just amazing how people think they can comment on your kids' bodies, to thier moms, in a way that they would never do to an adult
[ Reply | Options ]Yeah, I was aware I was doing it. I would be concerned if I were you but then again I work in the area of EDs and we see girls as young as 8 with issues, whose mothers said there were early indicators as children. They are realizing so much is biologically based these days. I agree with the pediasure recs but I'm not sure what you can do if she won't drink it. Good luck to you.
[ Reply | Options ]Of course we are concerned, but what can we do? I am seriously considering squirting syringes of double cream into dc's mouth, but then that would definitely give them an ED..no one can make a 2yo eat if they decide they are not hungry.
[ Reply | Options ]hmmm...tell us her favorite foods and maybe we help you think of how to lace them with more calories.
[ Reply | Options ]Thanks..... Fish. Cheese sticks, but only mozzarella, and she only likes the skim ones. Chickpeas. Grapes. Vitamins.
[ Reply | Options ]Hmm...short list. Does she know they are skim by taste or because she sees that they are. Ie, if she thought it was skim but it wasn't, would she reject it? Can you put sauce/olive oil or will she not eat that?
[ Reply | Options ]She wants the ones in the organic cow packet. I tried buying another full fat brand and slipped them into the other packet, but she said they tasted yucky. I smother everything in butter.
[ Reply | Options ]Have you consulted with anyone about her eating habits? It might be worth it since she seems to have such a limited diet and isn't taking in much fat. If those are the only foods she eats, that really is a short list. If I were you, I'd much rather involve someone now when her habits are more easily influenceable. Good luck.
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some kids are just picky eaters - my son never ate anything but white food (rice, bread, etc) and while it annoys me he is perfectly healthy and never gets sick. Two of my others just don't like chocolate, candy or cookies while their siblings do and there is hardly a pound difference between them.
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If you work in the area of ED's, then why would you deliberately say something like this? A little weird.
[ Reply | Options ]Because this seems like a dangerously low weight, which OP said makes her concerned. I agree with her concern and in an effort to support her motivation to address the issue, want to reinforce for her that this is a serious issue, which she obviously already knows. Since I already know she'll have the posters who say "it's no big deal, somebody's gotta be in the 10th percentile"...it might very well be a big deal.
[ Reply | Options ]If you want to reinforce our paranoia, then why do it in such an aggressive and bating way? Why not just show some understanding and concern, instead of Yikes! then pointing out what a perfect weight your dc is. I am glad you are not treating my dc, since you have very unusual and bitchy methods of reinforcement.
[ Reply | Options ]So far I seem to be the only one actually offering any concrete advice and asking follow up questions in order to provide advice. But thanks for the feedback.
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No because I actually know what I'm talking about, unlike a poster who is saying she eats healthy.
[ Reply | Options ]Look, sorry to labor this point, but why on earth would you say Yikes, my 9mo db is 22lbs, as a way to answer a post which is saying how hurtful those sorts of comments are. Maybe you do know what you are talking about, but my point is that you have a pretty awkward, thoughtless and obnoxious bedside manner. I hope you are not this way at your ED day job.
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Please, people naturally comment on anything unusual. People are always telling me that i'm so skinny or that my 6'5 brother is so tall. Obviously it's not meant in a mean-spirited way so you shouldn't take it as such. When i was younger, my mom would never get offended about people saying i was so skinny, she used to just laugh it off saying "i don't know where the food goes" or "it's from my husband's side." If she had acted upset, I would've internalized that there was something wrong with me. As long as your daughter is healthy, it doesn't matter if she is small or that people comment on it.
[ Reply | Options ]Are you serious? Commenting on a baby's weight is a body image issue concern for you?
[ Reply | Options ]ITA. It goes the other way too--my 11 yr old dd is very tall (as am I) and she gets comments all the time about how tall she is--from parents more than kids. Even things like 'wow, you are really tall--I saw you in the Christmas concert and you were towering over the girl next to you!) Not much sensitivity. So I sympathize with you... if your dr is not concerned, then I wouldn't worry... is she a picky eater or just eats small amounts?
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Are you by any chance asian? My 1/2 Chinese dd was never above the 5% tile but my ped said not to worry bec the charts are based on American caucasians. She is a teenager now and completely fit and tho trim not overly thin.
[ Reply | Options ]Funny. I had always heard that the charts were skewed the other way - that they took a good cross-section of American into consideration and so Caucasian children might typically seem really big on the growth charts. However, I also have read that they are based on formula-fed babies who tend to gain weight more rapidly in the first six months of life or so and that also can be misleading about what is "average".
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OP here: Sorry I was putting dd to bed, didn't realize how fast I would get responses. I try not to worry as my family is very thin, my mom didn't weight over 100 pounds until she hit 40 and my 6'5" brother only weighs around 150 pounds. My dd is in the 90% tile for height at 3 feet tall also, which makes her look even thinner. All she ate today was 1 egg, a nutri-grain bar, half a pb&j sandwich, a few chicken nuggets and that's it. I try to give her fattening snacks that are not to filling but she is so busy playing, she never eats much. I also worry b/c there is an obesity factor on my dh's side so I don't necessarily want to get her addicted to fattening foods, it's like walking a tightrope. She sleeps fine, 12 hours a night, and had mor...
[ Reply | Options ]Actually, for a 2.5 yo, that sounds like a pretty good day of food (I think most are pretty darn light eaters - mine was anyway). Just missing the milk. Does she drink her milk?
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Don't worry about dd, OP. Sounds like what my 2.7 year old eats on any given day. DD also looks very skinny/loses weight when sick--pedi said this is normal & just more noticeable with kids who don't have a lot of extra padding. She weighs 28 lbs now, but 5 of those pounds came on in the last 7 months! She's always been a VERY picky eater (she never had that chubby infant stage where they eat everything!) and if you can believe it, she only weighs 8 lbs more than her 7-mo-old sister... just goes to show, all kids are different. Some pointers for fattening up the food: 1) add a bit of heavy cream to scrambled eggs 2)peanut/almond/sunflower butter 3) if she eats yogurt, only do the greek, full-fat yogurt--add whatever needed to make it palata...
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Sounds like she eats a normal amount as long as she is also getting her milk / cheese / yogurt. Also, veggies. My picky eater loves his veggies when I keep them simple with a little browned butter on them. Steamed broccoli or green beans... sometimes asparagus or artichokes. I also saute zucchini in olive oil and he gobbles them up.
[ Reply | Options ]My Ds didn't hit 30 lbs until he was 3.6. He was always too busy playing and exploring the world to stop to eat. Despite being in the 10-15th percentile for weight, he's high energy and smart. That is to say that his physical and mental development was not hindered and really that's all that matters. It's hard not to worry, but they will eat when they are hungry.
[ Reply | Options ]My dd is 26 pounds at 3. I've never worried because I'm really small-boned and naturally low-weight too, though I eat a lot, so I figure she just got my genes. I think it's great that she gets to wear her clothes for a long time (still in some 24 month clothes), and hopefully she won't have to struggle with weight issues when she's older too. She was a fat baby, and I'm sad to say good-bye to those cute chubby thighs, though!
[ Reply | Options ]I agree with the poster who said to listen to your doctor. My little daughter wasn't 20 pounds until she was 2 and a half (we waited FOREVER to turn the car seat around). Likely your dd is just little and recovering from a bad flu. signed, mom whose dd would eat a handful of cheerios and that is it for a meal when she was little!
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Nice to see there are so many other parents out there with my problem. DS is 2yrs and I've been stressing non-stop about his weight @ 22lbs. He is half asain (filipino) and have wondered if that has anything to do with it. He's a terrible eater and can do days eating only strawberries. Tonight I was happy he was actually eating - then he got sick everywhere!
[ Reply | Options ]my ds was the same at 2 yrs. i tried avocado, hummus, smoothies, pediasure and served everything with butter & cream... but he had no patience for sitting down and eating and would only last about 5 minutes. i had to get up and run after him with the food as he wandered around and did other htings. i worried about giving him bad habits, but the important thing was that he put on weight. he's 4 now and sits and the table w/o any prob.
[ Reply | Options ]dd is 24 lbs now at 17 months and i feel like she never eats, was worried she is small. less that 25th percentile.
[ Reply | Options ]np: there is nothing wrong with 25th percentile. my ds weighed a little over 24 lbs at 18months and is perfectly healthy. meanwhile, i recently stopped stressing about his eating and he is eating so much more and it seems like he is gaining weight before my eyes. unless she has been dropping in percentile a lot, don't worry.
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[-]Off the "DIVORCE" post what is the worst divorce you have ever heard? Me: childhood sweethearts, DH takes off with make BFF, yes he was gay.
18 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]couple had to live bi-coastal for work reasons at the beginning of the marriage (ny/la) but they spent every weekend together. Went on for a few months. After a vacation in HI the wife gets a call from sister saying we can't keep this from you any longer but it seems dh is leading a double life with a totally different woman.... it was heart breaking
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dh is an alcoholic screw-up. dw loves him but can't stand living with him anymore and he won't get help. she tells him she wants a divorce, doesn't want anything from him (he comes from a wealthy family), feels terrible. things didn't work out, but she didn't blame him. a few weeks later, she finds he has moved in with a girlfriend she did not know about, a girlfriend he knocked up and has been keeping secret! he lets this woman watch their child during his visits! and this woman is TRASHY. when she answers the phone, won't let dw speak with her own son, etc.
[ Reply | Options ]DH told on his honeymoon that DW made the wrong decision and wants out. Get divorced, she gets the house. He remarries and 3 months later DW2 tells him she's a lesbian and her partner moves into the house, DH moves to the basement, eventually they too get divorced. Not making this up.
[ Reply | Options ]DF was pregnant w/ # 3. Dh suggested that they sell their home to buy a bigger one, dh sells house and than backs out of new home purchase. Moves family into a dumpy rental tells dw that he is sleeping with her bf and wants a divorce. Df miscarries #3. Dh cancels all credit cards AND turns off the electricity on his own dcs. Dh (who makes over 2 million a year) hides assets and leaves the country.
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do you think it is worth it. Do you ever want to go to the burbs and just pay cash or something close to it. Do you plan to pay it off before you both retire? How old are you? We are similar, so I ask,
[ Reply | Options ]poster below w/ 300/708...you can spend less in the 'burbs but you probably won't want to spend a ton less b/c you'll want a nice house in a good school system & possibly as close to the city as you can afford...it's more a space & lifestyle trade-off than a huge cost reduction
[ Reply | Options ]ITA. Unless you are factoring in private school tuitions for 3+ DCs, space/lifestyle are the reasons to go to the 'burbs. Nice houses with reasonable (under 60 minutes, door to door) commutes in good school systems are no less expensive on a per month basis than nice apartments in Manhattan - in the 'burbs you have substantially higher property tax bills, need for at least one and typically two cars, and have somewhat higher home maintenance costs.
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i'll answer both of you at the same time: $3,900/month...i took the largest amount on the new higher amount conforming mortgage (i can't remember what it's called) & got a very good rate...i'm thinking that $3,900/month plus a deduction on the interest isn't too much for our income...and i'm very happy with our home
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i dont really want to be but we pay $2800 for our part of brooklyn mortgage. i couldn't rent an apt half this size for less than that. the way i look at it, people who are renting for more than 2500/month are just paying someone else's mortgage. at least when i sell i can recoup most of the money i've been paying monthly. the summer house we've had for 8 years already and only pay $680 a month for. 3500/month out of 20k/mos income isnt bad.
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$140K. $0. (bought at bottom of the market in the early '90's. Had a very small mortgage and after about 12 years of monthly payments, just decided to pay off the rest in one lump sum.)
[ Reply | Options ]70K - no mortgage today, but 400K in few weeks + 10K per annum taxes. I'm going to die, aren't I?
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[-]We are considering relocating to Stamford, CT area (from Queens). My dh would commute to Manhattan for work. I know very little about the area, livability, schools, etc. Any information/opinions would be much appreciated.
10 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]If you know very little about the area how to you select it as a place to possibily relocate to? I like the area if you're in to suburbs, but I have no knowledge of the schools, etc.
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If you are considering CT you should really be looking at better towns than Stamford, schools are not very good, crime is high. You should check out Westport (best schools in the state), Fairfield & Greenwich.
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[-]Who here truly feels that where DC goes to preschool/elementary/high school truly will affect his/her life that dramatically? Honestly I don't believe it matters as much as people think it does. I went to public schools, second-tier college, and ended up in fabulous job.
33 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]My major concern is that DC spends that time reasonably happy. School is a waste of time for many kids, and a miserable one at that. I am sure that he will do fine in the long run, but I don't want him to waste his time in a crappy school--I want all of these childhood years to be as nice as possible! I don't think there is anything wrong with public schools or second-tier colleges if they are a good match for a child.
[ Reply | Options ]I hear you, but where I went to high school demented as it sounds gets people's attention in away you should understand from reading this board alone plus it opens you up to a completely different level of networking (when you are older of course) my classmates are doing incredible things and the common tie between us allows us to call up the other for a career change, discussion or opp. Does that make sense?
[ Reply | Options ]op: yes, but most of my colleagues went to ivies, and there i am in the same place as they are. agree that networking makes a difference, but it's not the only difference.
[ Reply | Options ]But it is such a huge network that is dispersed, all going to Harvard for instance while wonderful I am sure is not the close and similar experience that being Spence '83 is for instance. Or Spence any year for that matter. I went to an ivy but I never use the alum directory for networking only my private it actually has a more impressive roster for my year!
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I don't know, I went to fancy-schmancy schools, and I don't think I have ever really used that network in my career. In fact, I'm always a little embarrassed to mention where I went to school. I still talk to my best friends from high school, but I don't think any of us feel we benefited much as far as networks. I do appreciate the great education, and I think it is natural that if you get a bunch of pampered, educated rich kids together they will go on to do some pretty incredible things relative to kids with less resources.
[ Reply | Options ]I think 'fancy-schmancy' is what gave away the fact that you didn't actually go to one but ok
[ Reply | Options ]LOL, nice try. I do think it gives away the fact that I don't take where I went for K-12 very seriously, and I definitely don't think it determined my life's path. I can't even think of a situation in which I have gone through an alum directory to "network"! I now teach at a fancy-schmancy University, and the students I most enjoy working with--and many of the brightest-- are usually from publics. Different strokes...
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To me, the education itself matters more than the job it leads to. It is possible to get a great education at second rate schools, but its easier to do so at first rate schools. My guess is that the first years of that education matter about as much as the other years. So, yes I do care.
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Wow; astute (if a bit cynical), but not quite on the mark. I'm DH who can't get or keep a job, but who manages to contribute in a variety of different ways... for which a well-rounded education is very useful (e.g. reading laws, navigating bureacracies, solving technical problems, coming across as a high-level person), as well as life-enhancing.
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I suspect that more moms without Ivy-level college are more private school obsessed than moms who have BTDT. That is always the sense I get, at least on this board. They ramble on and on about the import of education, yet their posts are full of spelling/logic/grammatical errors. I think moms who have it don't worry so much about it either way. They know there are many ways to get to HYP, or not, and have a great, rewarding life either way.
[ Reply | Options ]i ignore spell/gram issues -- i never proofread and i assume no one else does either. the ignorance and lack of curiosity is a bigger problem. suggests posters are rich folks living in a bubble.
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You are totally on the mark. I went Ivy and have a grad degree too. I know you can transfer into Ivy easily - although many here probably don't know this or believe this. Dd zoned for a good public so private is not a necessity. There are actually some very good schools that don't cost $35K a year and your child will still get a great education.
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It doesn't matter one bit for the majority of people. Then there are those rare few who rise above against insurmountable odds from the ghetto school and wind up at Harvard and those mediocre students born with a silver spoon in their mouth who know how to rub elbows and work connections.
[ Reply | Options ]I absolutely believe it's important at the university level--but as for elementary, junior high and high school--not important. The rest of the country could give two craps whether your kid went to a tt NYC school or not. Seriously, it's ONLY the NYC crowd who gets spun up over this and we want to believe it's globally important so we don't feel like schmucks for putting ourselves through this self-induced hysteria.
[ Reply | Options ]prestigious schools have nothing to do with accomplishing things in life. Life in general or in a Career. People talk about it so much on here and it seems like insecurity. Its probably the greatest thing they ever did that they can still hold on to. If a person has talent, focus and drive they can accomplish anything. I went to a million different no name schools in different states, never finished college and still have worked for 6 major NY companies making 6 figures by my mid twenties. Peoples obsession with who is who and who went where on this board is laughable.
[ Reply | Options ]I think it is important. I don't care about prestige, but I do care about the quality of education--probably because mine was mediocre until college (where it was above average) and grad school (were it was excellent). Did my not-so-great high school stand in my way careerwise--not at all. Do I feel inferior or lack confidence--absolutely not. But I am aware of a missed opportunity to be challenged in a meaningful way, to be exposed to subjects on a deeper level that might have made a difference in career choices I made.
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[-]I'm trying to understand my son's ctp4 scores. The school gave us the national norm but not the independent school norm. Does anyone know what the independent school percentile would be for a score that was in the 87th percentile for the national norm? Thanks.
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[-]anyone else have a serious problem with their dh's bald spot? how do you stand to look it the shiny head?
23 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]my dh is incredibly kind, smart, sexy and funny, a great father and a wonderful husband. the fact that he is thinning on top doesn't even register on me. sheesh, op, priorities.
[ Reply | Options ]ummm, i am sure that you have issues too. and he probably overlooks them, because you have to except imperfections in a mate... and aging is going to happen.
[ Reply | Options ]sounds to me like you have a problem with DH, not his bald spot. otherwise you would easily be able to look past it.
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[-]Anyone know how things are going with the new director at Barrow Street Nursery School?
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[-]school just instituted a no-gift policy to teachers. now we'll have to slip gifts on the sly or mail them home. i guess the mediocre teachers protested that they went home empty-handed.
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[ Reply | Options ]do you really want an answer? because there is one, and it's logical: 1. most teachers don't like or want expensive gifts. they actually would prefer a nice drawing from your child. they also think parents who go overboard with expensive gifts are trying to buy them. 2. most schools don't like the appearance of impropriety or favoritism. 3. some parents, believe it or not, don't celebrate christmas and hanukkah. 4. some parents, also believe it or not, might not have the money to match your swanky gift.
[ Reply | Options ]The school can't tell families what to do with their resources but they can tell their employees not to accept gifts from the families. What will happen if they do is the question. If its public its almost impossible to get rid of the teachers. Privates could more easily fire them for taking gifts.
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This makes sense to me. There are so many potential problems with giving individual teacher gifts. I believe it's unethical for teachers to accept cash gifts. It's prohibited ethically in many professions for good reason. Even postal carriers aren't supposed to accept gifts over $20 value.
[ Reply | Options ]Our school has this rule; however, the PA collects money from all families and divides it up among all people at the school.
[ Reply | Options ]I think this is worse. Some of the teachers really do suck and if the parents of her students don't give she'll still get $/gifts from being subsidized by others.
[ Reply | Options ]This is really a strange post. I give gifts to my child's teachers to show how much I appreciate their hard work. I give gifts to every teacher. This is something I feel strongly about and choose to do. Not everyone feels the same way, and that is fine. I try not to go overboard, but to find something thoughtful - a book, a plant, tickets to an event, sometimes something else that I really think they would enjoy. Gifts are not forbidden at our school, and many people, but not all, do give them. I don't think anyone is trying to "bribe" their kids teacher. That is ridiculous. I really want to show my appreciation for the great job they are doing.
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So do you only give gifts to teachers you like? I've honestly never heard of that before. I give [small] gifts to all the teachers b/c they're all working really hard. It's not a reward; it's a token of appreciation. There is a policy at our school for a max of $20 per family to be distributed evenly throughout the faculty and staff. It makes total sense to me. Expensive gifts are OTT and inappropriate, and whether or not a parent is genuinely attempting to bribe or buy a teacher, a teacher can feel obligated to show preference to a student if they have accepted a large gift--I've seen it happen on both sides: the teacher, as well as a parent who thinks she deserves something from the teacher b/c of the gift she gave.
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[-]Do you guys think I could find a new college grad computer programmer to create a website for me in exchange for a free one bedroom apt in Manhattan? For example, one month's rent for a certain number of hours of work? What do you think would be reasonable in terms of hours per month of work I could expect?
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[-]Did anyone attend last night's D2 CEC mtg? If so, was UES rezoning discussed? I read about the downtown rezoning proposal, but can't find anything on uptown.
4 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]I thought only 234, 89, spruce and seaport school were discussed. did they talk about other parts of D2?
[ Reply | Options ]they did. DOE proposed a much larger zone for ps 158 so that it would be a huge elementary. many UES parents were there and were united AGAINST that idea. they don't want such a big elementary school in the neighborhood.
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