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  • [-]If a student can't verbalize the opening letters of a word, what is this problem called?

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    06.29.09, 09:02 AM [ Flag ]
    • Lack of phoenemic awareness/understanding? how old?

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      06.29.09, 09:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • This is an older ESOL student - in her '20's and I am a volunteer with an adult literacy program. I don't understand why she is having such a challenge with reading English out loud - her verbal skills are pretty good but there seems to be a limited connection between reading, writing and speaking which I don't understand how to help. She has trouble articulating "Who, What, Why, Where, and How" questions - often confuses them. It's as if she can't "see" the opening letters.

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        06.29.09, 09:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I am not clear on what you are saying is the problem. Are you saying her oral skills are pretty good (you said verbal, but verbal includes oral and written word skills)? You say she has trouble 'articulating' those words -- do you mean forming and pronouncing the words orally? Or understanding the differences in meaning?

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          06.29.09, 09:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I am referring to the student's oral word skills (the literacy program has students read out loud) and the student has difficulty forming the opening word of a sentence - especially "Who, What, etc". She can read slowly but when she hesitates over the initial word "What", I'm not sure what challenge she is facing.

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            06.29.09, 09:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • This then sounds like a learning disability. Could be language processing? Does she have the same issues in her native tounge?

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          06.29.09, 09:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • She's from Guinea and her French seems fairly fluent and her English, actually is okay. It's the reading and writing that seems to be an issue and I don't know whether she's dyslexic or if it's a sub-section of dyslexia that needs special attention.

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            06.29.09, 09:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Am I the only person on the planet who hates mother's groups? I mean HATE them!! And the women who attend them drive me nuts too-they run the gamut from the braindead to the uberorganic involved helicopter mom. Am I?

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    06.20.09, 04:59 PM [ Flag ]
    • What exactly is a "mothers' group"?

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      06.20.09, 05:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Mothers-usually new ones-get together to "discuss" parenting techniques, discipline strategies and basic laws that govern all children. Mindnumbing-went to one when I had first DS, discussed bottle types for an hour-had to call DH to meet me at a bar to "uncramp" my brain. Thought it was just hormones. Went when second DS was 6MO and first DS was 4, nope, not hormones.

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        06.20.09, 05:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Oh, I'd probably intensely dislike that as a structured setting. I loved meeting other moms and seeing how in love they were, but that doesn't sound like my style. Do you live in a rural area? I live in nyc, so it's simple enough to sort of 'audit' people you encounter and possibly reconnect. The built in hen party format of what you describe makes me sort of itchy.

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          06.20.09, 06:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • no, you're not the only one. but why would you be part of one if you don't enjoy it?

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      06.20.09, 05:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • just feels like everyone is in one and seems to enjoy it or acts like they do-maybe they feel that they "should"-had a really great friend who had a baby, joined one and is now this neo nazi mother-nuttier than a fruitcake.

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        06.20.09, 05:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • lol. none of my friends have ever joined one. i went to a playgroup with ds and that was all i could take!

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          06.20.09, 05:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I got together with other new mothers who I clicked with. We'd hang out together once a week. It was very nice.

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      06.20.09, 05:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You should try a playgroup instead. DCs play and moms talk about stuff that may have nothing to do with parenting. I used to have one at 4:00, with wine. that was nice.

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      06.20.09, 05:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I'll try that maybe-have some "old" friends that I get together with, but yeah a playgroup might work. My "friend" was upset last week-ran into her at a birthday party-that the children had chocolate cake and ice cream. Went on a tirade about sugar, chocolate, wheat, dairy and overstimulation. Again, DH and I met other friends from the party at a bar afterwards-no we aren't drunks. :)

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        06.20.09, 05:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Even with playgroups, you sometimes have a try a few groups to find moms you click with. And even then, you are not going to agree on EVERYTHING- very few parents do. I might consider starting to meet a few other moms at a playground, and if that goes well after a few times, try to get a formal schedule going.

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          06.20.09, 06:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I joined a "playgroup" when DS was just a few months old (and he could barely roll over, never mind interact). We had just moved to the suburbs and I didn't know anyone and it was a nice way to meet people. Over time, the group has evolved (DS is now almost 2) - 5 of us meet 1x/week (and our DC also go to a Mommy and Me class along with others on a different day).

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      06.20.09, 05:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I know what you mean. Maybe try volunteering or some other kind of group. I joined a volunteer group and I have met a ton of moms who I click with and ended up making playdates from there.

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      06.20.09, 06:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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