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  • [-]Does anyone see or know anything about Dr. Sami David??????? I use him myself but have mixed feelings.....

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    07.21.09, 08:41 AM [ Flag ]

    • No, but all I think is Sammy Davis, Jr.

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      07.21.09, 08:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • I really liked him and his holistic approach of figuring out what was going on with my body and dh's body when trying to conceive. However, I had 2 failed iuis with him and went on to a successful ivf with Martin Keltz.

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      07.29.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • What a coincidence. I have seen Dr. Keltz who recommends IUI or IVF but my acupuncturist recommended seeing Dr. David. I have to wait until January when i will be covered under my husband's insurance. I haven't done any IUIs or IVFs and have been trying for 1 year with 1 m/c. I'm interested in your experience with both Drs. I am actually debating whether to go at all to see Dr. David since it's $600 the initial consultation.

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        10.29.09, 12:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • never should have joined the Rat Pack. Always thought Sinatra was a total asshole. Loved the eye patch and the Jew conversion thing though. Never dug The Candy Man but did like his cover of Mr Bojangles

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      07.29.09, 01:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • are you doing IUI? I saw Sami David. Was going to do IUI- after 2 failed IVF cycles @ RMA. We were planning on using sperm donor, but DR David said maybe try with DH first. Well, DH sperm was n/g. then an unravelling of marital problems followed, so we haven't been back. I am going to my OBGYN in 2 weeks, planning to start at square 1 with male factor, see where she reccommends for IUI + sperm donor.

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      07.31.09, 08:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • He wants me to do IUI as well. But only because he can't really tell me why I am not getting pregnant which is quite frustrating and doesn't seem like a good enough reason. I am sorry to hear about the failed IVF cycles and marital problems.... God knows I now this whole fertility process puts so much pressure in your relationship!! What does n/g mean? We got all sorts of tests done:antisperm antibodies, post coitals at different times..... did Dr. David tell you that your husband's sperm seems to be the problem?

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        08.04.09, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

  • [-]If suffering from secondary infertility, where would you draw the line? I have a beautiful child, very haooy with my life. I am now experiencing recurrent early pregnacy loss. Went to the RE for the full blood work-up, and was told to do the HSG test too. Don't really want to...I think maybe I am just meant to have the family I have?

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    10.27.09, 10:46 AM [ Flag ]

    • I should add that my one child was conceived very easily naturally, this whole world is new to me.

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      10.27.09, 10:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • We have one child and are very happy.

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      10.27.09, 10:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • You really have to one it pretty bad to put yourself through IVF. It does not sound like you do. You don't event want to do the HSG.

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      10.27.09, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • I would say be prepared to accept and be happy with your one child. But relax and let happen what will. I experienced recurrent early pregnancy loss (4 mc's) and ended up having identical twins!! Who would have ever thought?!

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      10.27.09, 11:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • if i were you, i'd go for the testing. especially if it's non-invasive or even relatively non-invasive. unless you are already 40yo and not going to change your mind later.

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      10.27.09, 11:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • I'm in my very early 30s. I will do all the blood tests, but I do not plan to send my DH in for testing, and am leaning against te HSG for myself also. I do not see the point of those tests as I can very easily get pregnant, I just can't seem to keep the pregnancy. Even the blood work is quite the production....

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        10.27.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • I personally would rather go through tests and get answers than put myself through more miscarriages.

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          10.27.09, 11:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • I did the HSG and it's not a big deal. A little uncomfortable, but that's it. Sometimes the test itself clears things up. But I don't understand your comment about sending dh in for a test. Why the heck not? It's one little test for a man and endless ones for a woman. Please explain.

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          10.27.09, 11:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • if i were you, i'd do it. b/c if you decide in three years that you want to try again, you'll really not want to start doing all these things. they are pretty easy on your part and whatever answers you can get now are worth getting.

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          10.27.09, 12:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • I would have testing - it might be something very simple that could be solved easily. I had the HSG test and all the blood work, it wasn't a big deal (we had trouble conceiving with our first). My issue is clotting - if not treated I will get a clot during pregnancy which can cause miscarriages. But with 2x/day shots I can carry to term no problem. It depends on how you feel - I want to have a bunch of kids so would go through all the testing that I could.

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      10.27.09, 11:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • Everyone's line is different. Of course it depends on how much you want a second child. I did find that the HSG wasn't such a big deal and you get a lot of good information. If you don't feel like you can even go through that, maybe the second child isn't that important. I went through multiple miscarriages and just when I decided I could only emotionally endure one more, I got pg with dd, who is now 7yo. Only you know.

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      10.27.09, 12:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • i would definitely do some testing, but i would not do a lot of interventions (IVF and similar) -- and i'd look into adoption ifwe really wanted to.

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      10.27.09, 12:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • This was my thinking right before the testing started. I know I will not do IVF or IUI. Now I am a little overwhelmed by the sheer amount of testing. I also consider the HSG rather invasive, having to be on antibiotics, etc :(

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        10.27.09, 12:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • then maybe ask your doctor what useful information can come out of the test. can it diagnose something you'd be willing to treat/address? or are you jsut going to be directed to IVF (perhpas because of your age)?

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          10.27.09, 12:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • all the fertility stuff is overwhelming and stressful IME. When you say HSG, do you mean the hystrosalpingogram? If so, I didn't need any antibiotics.

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          10.27.09, 12:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

          • Yes, that dye test. They gave me an RX for antibiotics already to go with that test, (day before, day of, day after).

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            10.27.09, 12:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

            • Odd. I didn't have the antibiotics prescribed. I did it @ 4yrs ago. It's not fun, but not horrible. My mom did it, god, @44 yrs ago, she conceived successfully after that. Maybe unrelated, but who knows. How early are you losing the pregnancies?

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              10.27.09, 12:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • everyones line is different. i struggled wiht infertility for #1 and went farther than i thought i would to get pregnant and finally did ivf after all testing, many failed iuis, other fert tx. i now have 14mos dd and would do it all again and even more in a second. i had a failed FET a couple months ago and am in the middle of a fresh ivf cycle for #2. i am horomnal,have had a hormone induced headache for the past 3 weeks and have already gained 10 lbs from the hormones, but i've never doubted for a second that this is what i want. if you dont feel that way, perhaps you should stop with the one dc you have....

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      10.27.09, 12:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • I think you may be right.

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        10.27.09, 12:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • I've brought this up before on UB in the case it helps someone. I got pregnant with accupuncture twice. It seems to work for me. Tried for 36 months for #1, (6 mo of IUIs), was ready for IVF, but did one month of accupuncture. I don't really recall using bc since ds was born 3+yrs ago. Decided to try for #2, went back to accupuncture and 2 months later conceived. In cases like these you may want to try your luck with a non-invasive alternative? In the very least it should help with stress. HTHs.

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          10.27.09, 12:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

          • Thank you. I have an appointment for this week. Stupid question: does it hurt? i already feel like a pincushion :)

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            10.27.09, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

            • No it doesn't hurt. Every once in a while she'll put one in and it will sting. I'll tell her and she'll move it elsewhere. I've had a range of feeling euphoric afterwards (once) and feeling nothing at all other than laying down for a 30min rest. Good luck.

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              10.27.09, 12:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • my mom had my sister at 24, me at 40. both naturally. in those days they didn't test, but we assume she had secondary infertility. good luck!

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      10.27.09, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • I have one child too. Tried so hard to conceive #2 but no luck. I am blessed and happy to have my DS and happy with the family I have. Sometimes I regret that DS wont have a sibling but nothing I can do about it as I have lost a couple of pregnancies.

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      10.27.09, 12:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • Thanks. I feel tremendously blessed and happy. I can see how devastating all these losses would be for a first baby, but it is hard for me to become despondent when I have already been given so much.

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        10.27.09, 12:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • OR above. That is how I feel too. I know have given up on wanting #2 and just enjoying my amazing DS. He is such a blessing and we are having so much fun. Enjoy your little one :-)

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          10.27.09, 01:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • Obviously how far you're willing to go is up to you, but I wouldn't give up your dream of wanting a child b/c of the HSG. It was a little uncomfortable, but lasted only a minute or 2.

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      10.27.09, 01:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • I saw an RE after two mc's at 29 and 30. Got the full blood workup and HSG. It really wasn't a big deal, we're not talking about tolling fertility treatments.

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      10.27.09, 01:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • I had two dcs 4 yrs apart conceived in my late 20's - early 30's. At 41 I decided I wanted to have one more and casually embarked upon this mission. Well it turned into an epic and although I did have a wonderful 3rd dc - a real dream come true... the road was terribly rough. My point is don't start it if you really don't have a passion.

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      10.27.09, 02:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • Mind if I ask: how is the age difference with your youngest working out? It is one of my concerns...My DC is already 5.5

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        10.27.09, 02:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

        • While I certainly didn't set out to have three dcs 18 years apart (26,22 and 8)it's a wonderful family. My older two dote on their sibling and as one of the many bonuses for me we spend lots of time together as a family that we might not if we were the traditional 2 young adult dcs 2 parent household. My third has added so much magic to my life!

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          10.27.09, 03:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • Question -- do you say don't start if you don't have the passion b/c a)the fertility treatments were so onerous, or b) b/c starting again and raising another child when your other ones are now self-sufficient is so much work? Thx.

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        10.28.09, 07:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

    • DO the HSG it provides invaluable info on your fertility status and can help doc better evaluate you. i had it twice, before each pregnancy. yes, it's uncomfy, but it's over quickly and you may have slight cramping and spotting. it's totally worth it as a diagnostic tool.

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      10.28.09, 08:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

      • ITA. The HSG was not that bad (similar to a pap test in my experience). I highly recommend James Brady at Manhattan Diagnostic Radiology. He was extremely gentle and professional.

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        10.29.09, 06:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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