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  • [-]For those who have BTDT, what are the pluses and minuses of having children close in age (i.e. under 2 years apart)? Same question for having children who are, say, at least 3 years apart?

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    09.05.09, 05:07 PM [ Flag ]
    • I think it depends more on the sex of the children. A friend of mine had her 2 dd's 4 years apart and all they did was fight all the time, another one had kids two years apart and they play okay but don't really get along (boy/girl) my brother and I are less than 2 years apart and we don't get along either.

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      09.05.09, 05:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Having your kids further apart - it's easier to handle both of them at the same time since the older one is less dependent on you when the new one is born. They can at least somewhat comprehend that they have to be gentle with the baby, why you can't attend to them right away if you're doing something for the baby, etc. If you're a SAHM, it also means you get to spend more time one-on-one with the younger one since the older one is probably in school already or soon after the second's birth. I was also pleasantly surprised at how much they play together, even though there's over 3 years age gap. Negatives - just when things are starting to get easier with # 1, you're back in the really intensive baby / toddler stage, and it does draw ou...

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      09.05.09, 05:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Well, I can only speak as someone who has a 5.5 y/o DD and a 7 month old, but having an older child around has been extremely helpful! DD is great with her little brother and very helpful for me too.

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      09.05.09, 06:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Agreed. My children are 5 years apart. The older one is understanding is willing to help with things. If the older one is younger, I think they might not be as understanding.

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        09.05.09, 06:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np mine were 21mo apart and #1 would fetch/help to the best of her ability. It depends on the db's

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          09.05.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My kids are 14 months apart. The first year and a half was hard, but now, it is awesome. (currently ages 4 and 5) They play together, like many of the same things, and we enjoy it. Not for everyone though.

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      09.05.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • here are the pros that i've experienced by having dcs close in age. it's easier in a lot of ways: you already have diapers and other paraphernalia around and it's just a question of which kid gets which size, you can do things with them together, there's less jealousy b/c they basically don't remember a time when their sibling wasn't around. it's easier on you in some ways b/c there's an overlap on the age that htey take your full attention, instead of giving your full attention to one dc for 2 years and then starting again with another dc a few years later. the cons, in my experience, are that it's a lot of work in the first few years. but again, you are compressing all that work into a combined time.

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      09.05.09, 07:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Has anyone had an anatomy scan before 20 weeks? Mine is scheduled for 18.5 weeks and I'm concerned that it's too early.

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    09.05.09, 04:38 PM [ Flag ]
    • too early for what? to detect problems?

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      09.05.09, 04:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • yes. everything i read says they are usually scheduled at 20 weeks.

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        09.05.09, 04:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I'm not a doctor, but that week and 1/2 shouldn't make much difference development wise. All the parts are there at 18 weeks anyway.

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          09.05.09, 04:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • What did your doc say? It's prob ok unless you want to know the sex.

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      09.05.09, 04:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Sex should be easily seen at 18.5 weeks.

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        09.05.09, 04:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I didn't question my dr. when it was scheduled because I didn't realize that 20 weeks is the norm. If it doesn't make a difference, why would 20 weeks be the norm? Has anyone who has had it done early have any insight?

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        09.05.09, 04:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • It's ok. You are using the word "norm" as if it has more meaning than the people I've talked to all had it at 20 weeks. Honest, it is fine at 18.5 - but if it is going to upset you and make you worry, just call back and tell them something came up and you need to reschedule and make it a week later. It really, truly, honest to goodness doesn't matter.

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          09.05.09, 04:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • yes I had them before 20 weeks and it wasn't a big deal.

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      09.05.09, 05:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think that's just a set time so that parents know when it turns 20 weeks they can find out the sex but I don't think it's b/c of any potential danger. I know people have had it done earlier. I also think that a lot of technicians (unless they are well skilled) can sometimes give the wrong sex if it is done to early but if they are skilled then it's not likely.

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      09.05.09, 05:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • The technology is so good today - its pretty easy to determine the sex of the baby if the baby cooperates position wise. I don't know of anyone in the last five years who was given the wrong sex.

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        09.05.09, 05:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I just want to know that a potential problem won't be missed because the scan is done "early."

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        09.05.09, 05:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • are you worried about something specific? Do you have a family history of anything? They will be chekcing for club foot, spinafidia, hair lip, retared growth, heart defect, thickening of the skin at the back of the neck (and some other stuff) but all of this is viewable at 18 weeks - but - as other poster said, if you are goig to worry just change the appointment. Why not?

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          09.05.09, 05:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I had a scan at 17 weeks for different reasons and they tried to do the anatomy scan at the same time. Some things were still too small so they couldn't see well enough. At 20 they could see everything. But 18.5 is a week and a half later so you might be fine. Worse they'll have you come back two weeks later and you get to see your baby again.

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      09.05.09, 05:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Is there such a thing as "spirited" children? Anytime someone says their kid is "spirited", I always see an out of control, loud, forceful child. Can someone enlighten me?

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    09.04.09, 04:23 AM [ Flag ]
    • spirited child = brat

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      09.04.09, 04:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • ds is a ball of energy and i spend my time corralling or redirecting. parents who don't try to control the energy use "spirited" as an excuse.

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      09.04.09, 05:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i think your definition is spot on. i was going to say, ime, "spirited"=unruly

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      09.04.09, 05:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Well, there are kids who are harder to manage. It is better to say spirited than difficult or bad. The only issue is if the parent uses that word as an excuse not to try to manage the kid. My kid is easy to manage so I try not to judge.

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      09.04.09, 05:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • thanks-makes me feel better-the one mother is a former teacher who is now a stay at home mom and says that her children are 'spirited' and this usually happens at the same time I want to punch the little girl in the nose. Personally I think a swift swat on the behind would do these two good. My children are not "spirited"-they can just be "rambunctious" at times...

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      09.04.09, 05:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Of course, there is such a thing as "spirited" children. Just because some parents may use it as an excuse not to parent their children does not mean that there aren't children who by nature are more persistent, sensitive, active, etc. I agree with above poster who said it's a more positive label than "difficult." My ds is what I would call spirited insofar as he can be difficult to redirect because he gets very focused/fixated on an idea and is very high energy. He's not aggressive and people find him to be quite sweet, but I battle every day with getting him to listen when it's time to leave what he's doing to do something else. Reading a book about it right now and finding the tactics in the book work better than others I've read in o...

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      09.04.09, 05:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • People picked up the term from the book "Raising Your Spirited Child". My ds fit the definition perfectly. But when one actually reads the book there is a sentence which reads "being spirited does not entitle one to be a jerk." There's a lot of good advice in the book about setting boundaries, helping kids transition and getting kids to recognize and manage their energy and impulses as they get older.

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      09.04.09, 06:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • maybe I'll read it to understand these kids.

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        09.04.09, 06:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think if your child is described as "spirited", it could mean they are somewhat willful in the classroom. To help with this, a "spirited" child needs steady, focused routines so he/she knows what to expect and what the general rules are. That's why routines work well with young children (and older ones too).

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          09.04.09, 06:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • These people have no "routine" or "schedule"-maybe that is why? The only "routine" is that there isn't one.

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            09.04.09, 07:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • This isn't worth a response, but I'll give you 2 sentences. 1. Read the book and stop leaping to conclusions. 2. My ds had a very regular schedule and we were very consistent with discipline, but that doesn't change a child's basic temperament.

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              09.04.09, 07:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Yes, thank you. I have used the word "spirited" to warn preschool teachers that my ds is going to need more guidance about the need to sit still and be quiet. Doesn't mean we aren't teaching him these things -- we are.

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                09.04.09, 07:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I used to say that it's like strenghtening a muscle. Some kids will pick up the social cues and conform without seeming effort, other kids need to specially focus on and exercise those abilities to develop them.

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                  09.04.09, 07:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Preschool age? All DSs are like that....

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                  09.04.09, 09:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I was responder above with 3.6 yo and I totally agree with you. I am reading this book too and am already coming up with strategies for dealing with some of our challenges. These strategies work better than others I've seen in other books, and the truth is my boy is a good natured, sweet kid. Each kid has their challenges whether it's being shy, or high energy or whatever.

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        09.04.09, 09:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think people may use this when their kids are very high-energy and daring, also very talkative. I don't think this always equates to spoiled -- spoiled to me means a kid who's rude and self-centered -- the two sets of characteristics don't always go together.

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      09.04.09, 07:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ita. i think it's a good description for kids that are adventurous, curious, willing to try things, high energy, etc. all very positive qualities but they can be hard to harness and hard to parent a kid like that. i think that's why 'spirited' has become synonymous (or at least a euphemism) for "bratty" or "uncontrollable".

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        09.04.09, 07:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think of my son as spirited, he's not rude or out of control. He has a lot of energy and jumps into everything with both feet. He talks to everyone and is thankful and friendly. I am a strict parent and I do not allow spoiled behavior.

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      09.04.09, 07:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • of course there is...it's a personality trait...the trite answers above that attempt to assign the entire concept to neglectful parenting miss the point completely...children have personalities just like adults do...some are gentler, some are shier, some are friendlier, some are more active, some are more sedentary, and yes, some are more spirited (wild, stubborn, etc.)...of course this should mean more effort for the parent rather than merely an excuse for bad behavior...but yes, some kids are clearly more spirited than others

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      09.04.09, 09:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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