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  • [-]Please recommend OBGYN at Lennox Hill?

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    02.12.12, 04:47 PM Flag ]
    • Dr. Albert Sassoon - excellent, thorough dr. w/great bedside manner. 77th & Park.

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      02.12.12, 04:54 PM Flag
    • Dr. Asaf Ferber. Very nice - though he stopped taking BCBS. I had a normal pregnancy and normal delivery and loved Lenox Hill. I am not sure they are as good with complicated pregnancies. Just something to think about.

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      02.12.12, 05:04 PM Flag
      • OR: They saved my first db's life and 2nd was put in NICU for a week 45 mins after being born - both thriving so yeah, they're good with complicated births.

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        02.12.12, 05:08 PM Flag
      • Ditto. I go to Dr. Ferber but Dr. Schwab delivered me 4 weeks early and was wonderful. Dr. Strongin in that practice is great too, but he doesn't take insurance.

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        02.12.12, 05:53 PM Flag
  • [-]I need advice: my co-op's board is terrible and the President is harassing me. I have been vocal about the need for change. (finances etc). I wrote a letter to the board and the managing agent complaining about a recent incident and they didnt even reply to me. what can I do?

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    02.08.12, 12:34 PM Flag ]
    • What was the recent incident?

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      02.08.12, 12:36 PM Flag
    • NY Attorney General office has a complaint form-file a complaint and send a copy to the managing agent by certified mail

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      02.08.12, 12:37 PM Flag
    • i am a board president -tell me the whole story and i will tell you what will work. what is the issue?

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      02.08.12, 01:27 PM Flag
      • crazy board pres., board totally subservient to the pres., NO term limits. current board did away with limits years ago. Pres. has opened people's mail, retaliates against shareholders that question anything. clearly financially shenanigans. people are afraid to vote against him because they are afraid of him

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        02.08.12, 01:41 PM Flag
        • how many units?

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          02.08.12, 01:41 PM Flag
        • we swept our board about 7 years ago - got them all replaced, took a lot of phone calls, quiet meetings in the building. if you have a power base, you can do it. Call a special meeting of the shareholders. The management company should be able to show you the right place in the bylaws.

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          02.08.12, 01:44 PM Flag
          • big part of problem is managing agent: they wont reply to any inquiries. they are in his pocket

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            02.08.12, 01:45 PM Flag
            • the other big part of the problem is that 70% of the shareholders--maybe more--dont live here full time

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              02.08.12, 01:46 PM Flag
              • oh - that is a problem. do they rent out their apartments? they might not care what is going on if they do?

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                02.08.12, 01:47 PM Flag
            • how many shares/shareholders are there? If you get enough to sign for a meeting, they have to call one. Read your proprietary lease. What are the financial shenanigans?

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              02.08.12, 01:46 PM Flag
              • 13,500 shares approx. financial shenanigans--pres is negotiating deals for our building with buildings he has interests in. several people have asked for documentation proving we have benefited. nothing. insists people use the overpriced sleazy building attorney rather than a affordable attorney; insists people use certain contractors etc

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                02.08.12, 01:50 PM Flag
                • sounds terrible. it is a small building - without getting the shareholders to come on board with you I don't know how you stop him. i would do letters to the whole building, call for meetings inth elaundry and get some support . there is power in numbers. Invite the management company to all meetings (and the board!).

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                  02.08.12, 01:53 PM Flag
                  • it is terrible....

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                    02.08.12, 01:55 PM Flag
                    • get up there and run for election, collect proxies for your votes.

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                      02.08.12, 01:58 PM Flag
                • wow, sounds like a nightmare and it will be a nightmare getting out of it too - GL

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                  02.08.12, 01:58 PM Flag
        • Opening someone else's mail is a Federal offense. I'm not sure who you have to sic on her for it though.

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          02.08.12, 04:08 PM Flag
    • No idea when you wrote the letter, but our board only meets once a month, so if you send it right after we have a meeting....it is goign to take some time to get a response/resolution. But one of us on the Board would have reached out. When are your meetings? - when are elections held? GL sounds like your building is a mess.

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      02.08.12, 01:57 PM Flag
      • its horrible! the pres is a complete nutjob and is reviled by everyone BUT the Board and about 5 shareholders who seem to be fine with status quo since they are pied a terre

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        02.08.12, 03:50 PM Flag
    • so is there anywhere to file a complaint?

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      02.09.12, 07:03 AM Flag
    • OP here: has anyone filed a complaint with the state via this form http://www.ag.ny.gov/resource_center/complaints/html/comp_real.html regarding their co-op or condo. If so what happened? Thanks!

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      02.11.12, 07:30 AM Flag
  • [-]i am a happy one and done mom - any questions?

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    02.12.12, 12:24 PM Flag ]
    • Did you always know you wanted just one or is that a decision you came to after having one? Is dh on board? Do you ever think it would be easier if dc had a playmate?

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      02.12.12, 12:25 PM Flag
      • didn't give #2 any thought at all tile we had #1 (want #1 very very much), dh on board totally. I woh full time and i am happy to be dc's playmate on week-ends - cherish the 1:1 time.

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        02.12.12, 12:27 PM Flag
        • OR: I woh full time too, and have just one (not by choice, though) and the weekends are so hard, imo! Especially in the winter when we are stuck inside a lot. I want to be with dc, but I don't love being dc's only playmate.

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          02.12.12, 12:29 PM Flag
          • ^^^ oh, and one other question (since we're playing): why did you decide you don't want another?

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            02.12.12, 12:30 PM Flag
            • even in winter - never ever feel "stuck in the house" - we bundle up and go out and always find outings with "something for everyone" - like just get on the bus - head to the TW center - hand out in the bookstore - eat lunch in whole foods, maybe meet one of my friends for lunch (with our w/o another dc) - go to a movie - etc.

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              02.12.12, 12:33 PM Flag
              • We definitely do this a lot too, but some days I just don't feel up to it between the cold and being tired from working all week and/or having housework or take home work to get done, and then I find it hard but maybe dc needs to just get better at entertaining himself once in a while, at least for part of the day.

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                02.12.12, 12:35 PM Flag
          • np: I simply have always ignored my dc at times - she is very good at entertaining herself. Sure, I hang out sometimes & we do things together, but I have never felt the need to be her playmate.

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            02.12.12, 12:39 PM Flag
            • ditto - plus you can find playdates on the w/e but usually we dont - i don't prefer kid centered activities that much

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              02.12.12, 12:45 PM Flag
    • What if your dc wants a sibling? Do you adopt or get pregnant or what?

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      02.12.12, 12:30 PM Flag
      • dc will learn it is not dc's choice -

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        02.12.12, 12:31 PM Flag
        • this! kids want things all the time. Are you going to buy your kid a puppy just because he wants one? What if he wants 5 puppies?

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          02.12.12, 12:33 PM Flag
          • plus the kids will take the cues from you - if you think your family is fine the way it is - so will dc

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            02.12.12, 12:34 PM Flag
        • I was just curious b/c my wife was a one and done mom but dc wanted a sibling as well as me but she listened to dc more on the decision. Dc actually convinced her for having one more. I wanted 4 but she made it clear to me I was pushing it with 1.

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          02.12.12, 12:36 PM Flag
      • what if you have #2 and it is a ds, what if #1 wanted a younger sister? have #3? keep going til #1 is happy?

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        02.12.12, 12:35 PM Flag
        • np: I have 3, and the oldest has told me she wants a third sibling. That's definitely not happening, and I just told her Daddy and I have decided we have 3 great kids and that's enough for us, I would think moms of 1 could the same thing. Everyone has to stop eventually!

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          02.12.12, 12:37 PM Flag
          • exactly - it is not so different to decide to stop at 1 then to decide to stop at 2 or 3

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            02.12.12, 12:42 PM Flag
    • What were the factors that went into your decision? Did you love the 1:1 ratio as mentioned above, feel that having 1 is logistically easier, etc.? Did finances play a role in your decision?

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      02.12.12, 12:34 PM Flag
      • I guess after having #1 i just didn't feel compelled to do it again. satisfied with what i had. finances not a factor - we are not wealthy but we are comfortable -

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        02.12.12, 12:38 PM Flag
        • Of the friends I have who deliberately had an only, all said something similar about just not really feeling like they particularly wanted a second kid, their family felt complete as is.

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          02.12.12, 12:41 PM Flag
          • np - also one and done - when i didn't want another enough to give up my dining room it kind of told me something

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            02.12.12, 12:48 PM Flag
          • Np we originally wanted two but firs5 it was job stress for me, then we were fine with one, now on the fence because of dh's job. We're happy with one but might want sib for dc (i'm an only).

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            02.12.12, 04:31 PM Flag
    • I am a very happy only child. No questions, just a piece of advice - ALWAYS let your dc know that you are so happy to have him/her and that you hit the jackpot and never felt any desire for another child.

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      02.12.12, 12:37 PM Flag
      • op here "i got it right the first time"

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        02.12.12, 12:40 PM Flag
      • This is my dh's mother... Still obsessed with her perfect ds at 40. She is a dood mother and loves him very much but he does have a love/hate relationship with her. Having one was not the right choice for this particular woman. She said she could never imagine sharing herself with more than one child.

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        02.12.12, 12:54 PM Flag
        • lol but BTW this can still happen if she had 2 but was obsessed with only one of them - maybe it is lucky that a sib did not have to endure this?

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          02.12.12, 12:57 PM Flag
          • Not with her personality. She would have obsessed over both but she would be much easier to take at 50% frequency.

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            02.12.12, 01:01 PM Flag
        • maybe she needed a job

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          02.12.12, 12:57 PM Flag
          • She still works. She is getting worse with age and she is not that old

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            02.12.12, 12:59 PM Flag
      • as another only ITA. It really worries me when women post here about desperately wanting a sibling for their dcs because they will (probably) give their dcs the message that s/he wasn't enought for mommy and daddy

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        02.12.12, 04:33 PM Flag
    • Congratulations. We had a second after much debate and although I love both my dc to death there's no question life was easier with one. Among other things, two will price us out of NYC soon.

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      02.12.12, 12:37 PM Flag
    • How old are you?

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      02.12.12, 12:41 PM Flag
      • I was 35 when dc was born

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        02.12.12, 12:43 PM Flag
        • I'm an only child(probably will have an only myself as I have 1 DB and 37) my childhood was 50/50. I do recall wanting my mom to pay with me and her turning me down or like the OP said, taking me out to diners, movies, malls just to get us both out of the house(PS my parents divorced when I was 5) but I also remember spending hours playing dolls, drawing, riding bikes etc. Now as an adult, I am never bored and I love being alone.I feel best when it's just me, or me with DB and DH.

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          02.12.12, 01:26 PM Flag
    • No, why would I care? Is this that unusual? Practically every kid in dd's MS is an only child. She's not, and I suppose I could be snarky about how much I think having a sibling has meant to my 1st born, what diff. does it make. Everyone makes decisions for themselves (except in China).

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      02.12.12, 01:43 PM Flag
      • so you decided to be snarky by saying what you could be snarky about?

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        02.12.12, 01:53 PM Flag
      • how do you know that #3 won't mean so much to them too? you can always rationalize the next one

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        02.12.12, 02:00 PM Flag
  • [-]Does anyone have a DS who is gay? When did you first know?

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    • I don't, but my oldest is 16 and in his pre-school when they were 3, there was a boy who was clearly gay. I don't know how I knew, but I wasn't the only one that knew (parents didn't seem to know, but I never discussed it with them). He came out last year.

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      02.11.12, 07:05 PM Flag
      • How do you know you didn't end up gay because he was always told he was gay and treated that way? I don't believe you choose to be gay or that you are born gay. I believe a person is gay based on a lot of things that person has no control over. But thinking a kid is gay at 3 is crazy. At 3 you aren't gay or straight you are 3. But if you told you are gay from 3 chances are you will end up gay. And nothing wrong with that but saying you knew at 3 is crazy.

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        02.11.12, 07:29 PM Flag
        • You are born gay or straight. End of story.

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          02.11.12, 07:37 PM Flag
          • I think there's a spectrum - some are born completely one way or another, and environment will play no part. I think for others it can - parenting, peers, lifestyle, etc., can all play a role.

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            02.11.12, 07:49 PM Flag
            • Don't agree. Studies have shown that if a boy is feminine as a child, there is a 75 percent chance that he will be gay. Think there is more of a spectrum for girls though.

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              02.11.12, 07:51 PM Flag
          • This. It happens in the womb. The male baby is exposed to too much estrogen and the brain becomes feminized. That's why they are gay.

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            02.11.12, 07:50 PM Flag
            • While I agree that homosexuality is genetic, to assume that all gay men are feminine is an ignorant stereotype. The silent majority of gay people are undetectable as children and adults because they look, act, speak, walk, etc just like everyone else.

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              02.11.12, 08:24 PM Flag
            • wow, you must be a scientist

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              02.11.12, 08:50 PM Flag
          • I disagree. It is not always a biological result.

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            02.11.12, 11:26 PM Flag
    • Yes. He's 20, came out to me when he was 14 and I "knew" since he was about 4-5yo. He's very happy, in a great relationship (over 1 year!) with a nice guy.

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      02.11.12, 07:45 PM Flag
      • OP: TY. This last answer was very helpful, and reassuring. I am not sure about DS, but am always careful to say "someday you'll fall in love with a person who is just right for you." I want him to know I will be there for him under any sort of circumstance.

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        02.12.12, 04:07 PM Flag
  • [-]What's with nannies/sitters saturating themselves with PERFUME? is anyone else sensitive to it? i find it VERY annoying to have to ask them not to wear it.

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    • Hides other smells

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      02.12.12, 07:05 AM Flag
    • imo, it's just not just nanies - way too many people bathe in perfume, versus just spritzing themselves with it

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      02.12.12, 07:07 AM Flag
    • are you hinting at smoking? or the face they didnt shower? equally disgusting on both counts

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      02.12.12, 07:08 AM Flag
    • If it is your regular nanny you can of course ask her not to wear perfume (personally I'm allergic so it really does affect me badly). An occasional sitter it might be trickier to talk with, but you should if it really affects you.

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      02.12.12, 07:09 AM Flag
      • i have done that -- asked her directly NOT to wear it and then somehow she just forgets and wears it (like today. she is a weekend person that works for me. have headache now thanks to her stench. it's baffling to me why she would wear it after being asked not to

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        02.12.12, 07:12 AM Flag
        • remind her

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          02.12.12, 07:25 AM Flag
          • NP. I have the exact same problem. I have to remind our nanny not to wear it because she's crazy about perfume and will wear a ton of it.

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            02.12.12, 08:51 AM Flag
    • My sitters don't do that. It's a class thing.

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      02.12.12, 07:13 AM Flag
      • np: so you're sitter is high class? Why is she a sitter then?

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        02.12.12, 07:14 AM Flag
        • ^^ Meant Then why is she a sitter? damn migraine

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          02.12.12, 07:15 AM Flag
          • To earn money while she gets her masters

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            02.12.12, 09:10 AM Flag
    • I hate being on a packed bus with at least one person with CHEAP perfume (cologne) on. It gives me an instant headache. NOW if the scent is soft it doesn't bother

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      02.12.12, 07:13 AM Flag
      • It must just be worse when a nanny wears it, I guess...

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        02.12.12, 07:24 AM Flag
    • When my nanny first started, she had perfume and makeup on. We simply told her we do not like perfume and prefer no makeup near DC. She never came in with perfume or makeup after that.

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      02.12.12, 09:13 AM Flag
      • You don't let your sitter wear makeup? Are you uniform mom?

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        02.12.12, 11:56 AM Flag
  • [-]We need an Italian nanny live out for 3 young children. She MUST speak Italian. I have had NO luck with sites and we can't afford an agency. Can anyone help us find an ITALIAN speaking live-out nanny in CHELSEA??? She must work 5 days including weekends and have experience with multiple children. The pay is $700 per week for about 10 hours each day.

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    • I can imagine this is tough -- you're asking for something very specific, for a lot of hours, and not great pay.

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      10.17.08, 07:00 PM Flagged
    • on the books?

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      10.17.08, 07:01 PM Flagged
    • That is $14/hour - three kids+including weekends. That's not enough!

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      10.17.08, 07:11 PM Flagged
    • The pay is not high enough. You won't find anyone worth leaving your precious children with. Don't do it...find more money or lower the hours and pay more for part time. For 3 kids it should be at LEAST 18/hour.

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      10.17.08, 07:12 PM Flagged
    • I agree this will be hard to find this only b/c Italian is not that common. However, the pay is NOT low if this is her net or cash. That is equivalent to about $55K a year gross and 50hrs is standard NY nanny hours. The weekends might have to be negotiated separately or hire a PT italian speaker for weekdays and someone else for weekends (w/o the italian requirement). I just went thru the interview process in Manhattan for 3 dc for 50 hrs and needed Spanish. I had many, many qualified applicants and all but one told me I was offering more than any other interview they had (confirmed by their prior employer references) at $700/week.

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      10.17.08, 07:21 PM Flagged
      • np: Spanish is much easier to get than Italian though, OP really needs to look within the Italian community for that. I think the pay would be fine if the job was Mon-Fri but if OP wants 10 hour days on weekends it may be harder to find someone.

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        10.17.08, 07:37 PM Flagged
    • the pay is way too low, especially if in nyc. we have 3 kids and pay 19 an hour. i believe his is about 14 an hour for 3 kids. that is the going rate for 1. the above poster is paying slave wages. i went through frances stewart, pavillion, and madam agency and the standard rate was 18 an hour plus. how someone would feel comfortable paying less i do not know.

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      10.17.08, 07:43 PM Flagged
      • no, you are paying on the books which is great for you, but does not represent 95% of nanny jobs in nyc. it's pretty much the same as $700 cash. not to mention, reported wages on UB are *always* much higher than irl due to the sampling and rampant nanny inflation. one nanny posting 5 times on any one post makes it look much diff than reality.

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        10.17.08, 10:08 PM Flagged
      • It's not THE going rate for one--it's the going rate in your specific circle, possibly. But last I checked, plenty of TEACHERS don't get the eqivelent of $20/hour. Or social workers. In my area, it's closer to $12. If that's too low, all those nanniies should go out and get better paying jobs in line with thier equalifications.

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        11.22.08, 06:19 AM Flagged
    • The Language Workshop on 66/67th and Lex has started advertising foreign-language nannies. I have seen ads for Italian-speaking nannies there. You should call them.

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      10.17.08, 07:53 PM Flagged
      • Wow there must be some angry nannies here. Most of the nannies in my Tribeca building make 600 weekly.

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        10.24.08, 01:39 PM Flagged
        • for 5 or 7 days though?

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          10.24.08, 04:40 PM Flagged
          • $700 is higher than the going rate in our building, I checked. It is for 5 days and most of the time the nanny will only be with 1 or 2 kids.

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            10.27.08, 08:59 PM Flagged
    • Call la Scuola Italiano and ask them if they have any ideas on where to find someone.

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      10.28.08, 04:05 AM Flagged
    • perhaps the italian embassy could help?

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      10.28.08, 06:05 AM Flagged
    • I am moving to San Francisco and looking for a Nanny / Au Pair position.

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      11.11.08, 08:48 AM Flagged
    • I am Italian and I am moving to San Francisco. I was looking online for Au Pair / Nanny positions and found your post. If you want I can forward my resume and previous nanny experience I have in Australia, France and of course Italy. Do you have an email I can get you on?

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      11.11.08, 08:51 AM Flagged
      • hi! not sure if this is still active, but i am looking for an italian speaking nanny and i live outside of san fran, are you still interested?

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        06.01.10, 10:41 PM Flag
    • Hello - I am Italian and I am moving to San Francisco. I was looking for an Au Pair / Nanny position and found your post. I can send you my resume and credentials and previous working experience/references from my families in Australia, France and Italy. Do you have an email address I can send it to?

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      11.11.08, 08:54 AM Flagged
      • The poster lives in NEW YORK.

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        11.22.08, 06:21 AM Flag
    • What about an Italian au pair?

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      11.11.08, 08:59 AM Flagged
    • ciao I am italian and I live in ealrs court just few minutes to chelsea

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      11.22.08, 02:50 AM Flagged
    • ciao, io sono federica e sono italiana, io vivo in earls court london a pochi minuti da chelsea e sto cercando un lavoro da nanny, io ho esperienza in famiglie con piu bambini e ho un certificato di animatore per bambini se siente interessati vi prego di chiamarmi cosi possiamo organizzare un incotro per conoscerci e parlare di lavoro, posso fornire contattabili referenze. il mio numero e' 078 33732499

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      11.22.08, 02:56 AM Flagged
      • Chelsea New York City ma grazie

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        11.22.08, 06:10 AM Flag
    • ciao! Mi chiamo Linda, sono italiana, amo i bambini e NY . Sono interessata al tuo annuncio. Sono stata recentemente 3 mesi a NY, quindi con visto turistico. Ora vorrei tornarci "definitivamente" e la tua offerta di lavoro mi sembra perfetta. Mi chiedo però come funziona per i visti e la burocrazia,ma forse tu cerchi un'italiana che abbia già tutte le carte a posto? O tramite questo lavoro c'è modo di ottenere i permessi? ciao e grazie

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      04.06.09, 03:02 PM Flag
      • Hi Linda,

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        10.28.11, 08:05 AM Flag
      • Hi Linda, are you still available to work as a nanny in NY downtown?

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        10.28.11, 08:06 AM Flag
    • To whom it may concernMy name is Elisa Crestani. I am a qualified Nursery Nurse from 1997. I am currently looking for a position as a Special Needs Nanny and I wonder if you could consider me for a position you are offering. I am punctual, reliable, hardworking, trustworthy, well presented, flexible and good mannered. I am enthusiastic, dynamic person who will stimulate and encourage the children to develop themselves. I have lots of energy and a friendly outgoing personality. I am happy and bubbly with a love of music, dance and handcrafts, which I enjoy sharing with children as I believe, that arts can stimulate them at any age. I do have experience working with younger infants and toddlers from a variety of different back grounds ...

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      01.10.10, 01:09 PM Flag
    • Did you try Craigslist? A couple of years ago i was looking for an Italian nanny and had a good response.

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      07.23.10, 05:51 PM Flag
    • if your dcs MUST speak italian, move back to italy or quit your job.

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      07.23.10, 05:52 PM Flag
    • pay is way too low. you need to pay at least per day for a nanny with a specialty like that to take care of 3 dcs. figure $1,000 a week minimum.

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      07.23.10, 05:53 PM Flag
    • try posting at la escuelita. or parliamo italiano, the italian cultural institute....

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      07.23.10, 05:57 PM Flag
    • Hello!!!It's your ad still valid??I'm an Italian woman live in UK I'm 16 years of experience in childcare,2 qualifications,CRB and very good references.

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    • I am an enthusiastic, creative, dynamic and responsible person; I have a flexible approach and the ability to show love and affection to children and their care. Excellent temperament and outstanding interpersonal skills and communication; strong spirit of initiative and adaptability, availability, accuracy in work; empathetic personality. I like to spend my time with the kids, play with them and be a strong point of reference. Contact me please on camilya@hotmail.it

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  • [-]Tell me what you know about Somers, NY. Schools, vibe, people. Thanks!

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    • what's the difference between Somers and Katonah? I have a friend who grew up in the same house and one year her address was Katonah, the next it was Somers, and the next it was back to Katonah. Weird.

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      02.11.12, 05:11 PM Flag
      • In Westchester you often have a school district, town and PO that are all different. Somers has a different HS, no rights to the train station parking, no town pool... but borders Katonah.

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        02.11.12, 05:13 PM Flag
    • I have one relative who lives there. They are pretentious, status obsessed, label conscious strivers. Unfortunately they color my impression of the whole town.

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      02.11.12, 05:14 PM Flag
      • Oh no! They don't sound very appealing!

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        02.11.12, 05:15 PM Flag
      • they sound just like everyone on this board

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        02.11.12, 05:36 PM Flag
    • Have heard that the schools there are not the best. Katonah has stronger schools. Somers is pretty though.

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      02.11.12, 08:50 PM Flag
  • [-]Private schools in the 70s in NYC, I need to put this to rest because I see such misinformation here. Myself and three siblings grew up and went to private here, some TT some not and I can remember and my parents confirm that this process was always crazy and rife with pain. Working WLs, nannies doing pick up in february, broken friendships, mothers screaming on the playgrounds at each other, heated discussions, tears. This myth that you "signed up" at schools here at any point is being fabricated by people who have an agenda.

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    • No one will reply to this. Everyone here especially today needs to believe its "this year" and "this new system" and not just the way it always has been.

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      02.11.12, 02:13 PM Flag
      • Do either of you read? It's been reported as a major news item in the last year that the # of affluent whites in NYC has hugely increased since the 70's. That's a fact. So let's rely on facts not biased, faulty memories of decades ago. There are a lot more applicants now for the same schools.

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        02.11.12, 08:08 PM Flag
    • I'm sure it wasn't as easy as signing up, but just check some old NYT articles about the problems that private schools had with enrollment in the 70s and 80s. Birch Wathen Lenox was formed because one of the predecessor schools basically shut down/went bankrupt because of lack of enrollment. Also, look at demographic data: the number of school aged children in the 1970s and 80s was at a post war trough, making it less competitive to get in.

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      02.11.12, 02:15 PM Flag
      • You are simply wrong. No offense to you but while people were not burning down the door to go to Birch, which was for very troubled children at the time and no one wanted to be associated with it, this process for the same 13 schools everyone here freaks out about was exactly the same. No UB, no internet to make the panic spread like wildfire and exacerbate it but you don't get mothers in fist fights - yes, I witnessed it because ones DD did not get into NBS and the other woman's dd got into there and hewitt - because the process was easy.

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        02.11.12, 02:18 PM Flag
        • I'm glad I went to Birch and not wherever you went "myself and three siblings". Birch was never known as a school for very troubled children and we learned basic grammar. The demographics of NYC were very different in the 70s and todays 5 and under population is 35% larger than it was 10 years ago.

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          02.11.12, 03:28 PM Flag
      • The TT schools never had enrollment problems

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        02.11.12, 02:23 PM Flag
    • Great perspective

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      02.11.12, 02:16 PM Flag
    • Grammar Mom here - my eyes are bleeding.

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      02.11.12, 02:17 PM Flag
      • This is a chat board for the love of god read for content not for grammar

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        02.11.12, 02:19 PM Flag
        • Sorry, I know. But "Myself ... grew up" is just too painful, and she (you) even did it twice. Otherwise, however, very lively and engaging description. Signed, writing teacher.

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          02.11.12, 02:24 PM Flag
          • I love you, Grammar Mom.

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            02.11.12, 02:50 PM Flag
            • I love you too, every one of you who can feel this pain. By the way, I meant I am *a* Grammar Mom - one of many who post here on occasion. If there is a *the* Grammar Mom, I am not claiming to be she.

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              02.11.12, 03:44 PM Flag
        • NP: is it really that hard to use basic sentence structure too? (clearly you were one of the non-TT sibs.)

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          02.11.12, 02:26 PM Flag
          • As is your child?

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            02.11.12, 02:28 PM Flag
            • np if my 7 yo or my 11 yo ever used that sentence construction I would be surprised and very unhappy

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              02.11.12, 02:29 PM Flag
              • That's the kind of thing that uneducated people who are trying to sound "educated" say. Football players always seem to say this in interviews. It makes me cringe.

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                02.11.12, 02:36 PM Flag
                • yes; it's like saying "he gave the menu to my husband and I" ... I die a little death each time I hear it

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                  02.11.12, 02:44 PM Flag
                  • I'm going to make you bleed a little more, Grammar Mom: "My husband and I's anniversary is next week." Call the ambulance! ;)

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                    02.11.12, 02:48 PM Flag
      • Haha! So true. She lost me at "myself and three siblings...."

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        02.11.12, 02:22 PM Flag
        • get a job and put your grammar obsession to good use

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          02.11.12, 02:24 PM Flag
          • It's Saturday, Einstein.

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            02.11.12, 02:28 PM Flag
          • A word to the wise: clean up your grammar or else people will think you're stupid.

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            02.11.12, 02:28 PM Flag
            • fascinating.

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              02.11.12, 02:31 PM Flag
            • Or at least realize that you probably didn't go to a TT school.

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              02.11.12, 03:00 PM Flag
      • lol

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        02.11.12, 02:30 PM Flag
      • Grammar Mom, who cares about grammar on a chat board. Get a life.

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        02.11.12, 04:27 PM Flag
        • seriously. she looks like a real winner.

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          02.11.12, 04:41 PM Flag
    • Have a friend who got her kids into private schools about 14 years ago. She says it was much easier than it is now. She is amazed at what we are going through.

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      02.11.12, 02:18 PM Flag
      • Again, completely incorrect. Your friend is so far removed from it after 14 years and you will be too.

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        02.11.12, 02:20 PM Flag
        • I don't remember exactly how many schools they applied to, but it was a much smaller number than our PSD was recommending, and they had multiple accepts. It never occured to her that getting our kid into private K would be difficult.

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          02.11.12, 02:23 PM Flag
          • For some DCs, because multiple accepts happen every year, it is a very easy process.

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            02.11.12, 02:24 PM Flag
        • Eleven years ago, I applied to one school for my daughter, and she got in. I remember being surprised to get the notification because I hadn't remembered the date they were being mailed.

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          02.11.12, 02:24 PM Flag
          • ^^^ np

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            02.11.12, 02:25 PM Flag
          • Whatever your single, and probably made up, experience means nothing.

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            02.11.12, 02:26 PM Flag
        • Hmmm... Maybe your mom is even further removed from it after even more than 14 years.

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          02.11.12, 02:25 PM Flag
        • Well, as a collegiate parent now, when Joanne speaks at the end of the year pa meeting about the year's admissions she often talks about when she began and how hard it was to fill the seats. That people fr the east side were loathe to cross the park. So, I'd say that has changed just a tad.

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          02.11.12, 02:28 PM Flag
        • Wrong. YOU are the one who's mistaken, again. Signed, Spence alum of '90 with a DH from Dalton '91. (Both sets of our parents agree it's harder now than it was for them. Sure, it wasn't easy but nothing like today.)

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          02.11.12, 02:29 PM Flag
          • Never seen a post so blatantly laced with bitterness, bullshit and an agenda.

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            02.11.12, 02:51 PM Flag
            • Pray tell, what's the bitterness/bullshit/agenda?

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              02.11.12, 05:51 PM Flag
    • I graduated from Dalton and the 80's and it was a lot easier than it is today, partly because of families with 3 and 4 kids, and suburban flight has ceased since then

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      02.11.12, 02:23 PM Flag
      • No

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        02.11.12, 02:23 PM Flag
        • yes.

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          02.11.12, 02:27 PM Flag
          • I see you mus have actually graduated from Dalton in the 80s then

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            02.11.12, 02:29 PM Flag
      • +1 here. It was nothing like this, at least for reasonably smart kids.

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        02.11.12, 02:31 PM Flag
        • i believe it. i used to never see babies when i first visited nyc in the late 80's. now, it's brimming with them.

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          02.11.12, 04:42 PM Flag
    • I tend to agree with you. We are not yet at ongoing, but we were in a preschool interview recently and was told by the director that she has interviewed 400 families each year for decades. So even if more people are applying, don't many of the ongoing schools cap the # of applications they will give out or # of students they will actually interview? This would mean they have historically seen the same number of applicants each year for a long long while. I am not a veteran of the K process, so correct me if I am wrong.

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      02.11.12, 02:26 PM Flag
      • Yes, exactly. My mother's best friend was the PSD for almost 40 years one of these so called TT preKs and gives lectures on how this process has always been this way

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        02.11.12, 02:28 PM Flag
      • That may be, but the pool from which to choose the 400 was less competitive years ago than it is today.

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        02.11.12, 04:02 PM Flag
    • Lovely troll on this thread who never finishes his/her sentences with a period.

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      02.11.12, 02:31 PM Flag
    • Whaaa Whaaaa! No no its harder this year its harder its harder it isn't snowflakes fault its the system, its the year, its the population, its the new money, its numbers, its..its... Whaaa!

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      02.11.12, 02:34 PM Flag
    • I thought we all understood that for most americans nothing counts unless it's happening to you.

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      02.11.12, 02:38 PM Flag
    • Curious. Are you trying to make us feel better or worse?

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      02.11.12, 02:44 PM Flag
      • I am not trying to make you feel one way or the other. I am just giving you the facts. You can choose to believe me or choose to believe the fake Dalton grad or Spence grad married to Dalton grad.

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        02.11.12, 02:49 PM Flag
        • Well, it's hard this year, and that won't change no matter who I believe.

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          02.11.12, 02:54 PM Flag
        • who cares what it was like 30 years ago? I don't get it.

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          02.11.12, 03:13 PM Flag
    • I believe that the level of insanity was the same around the process, but sheer demographics make it extremely hard for me to believe it was the same. I think in the old days, people were as obsessed with the TT, but the worst case scenario was that your dc ended up at a 3rd tier, not that your nice, well-behaved dc with non-PITA parents was still SO. Do you really believe that as the volume of dc's staying in NYC has increased exponentially that this hasn't made the application process even harder?

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      02.11.12, 03:13 PM Flag
      • I basically agree with this. It was never "easy" to get into Spence, Brearley, Dalton, etc., but smart, "normal" kids virtually always got in *somewhere*, even if it wasn't your first choice. People did not get SO because there were 800 applicants for 25 spots, half of which were taken immediately by sibs.

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        02.11.12, 03:32 PM Flag
    • No way. It was nothing like today. Manhattan born and raised. M<y folks picked out school on geog. and nothing else> We had an IQ test of some kind and were in. "2nd tier" school fwiw

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      02.11.12, 03:49 PM Flag
    • "Myself and three siblings?" OUCH! No way dd you attend NYC private in the 70's. How about something like, My three siblings and I"

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      02.11.12, 03:52 PM Flag
      • It's just funny in that she is also almost the only one claiming it was REALLY hard to get into private school back then ...

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        02.11.12, 04:09 PM Flag
    • yes, i know who sent her kids (my age now) to Trinity, Dalton and ECFS in the 70's and 80's and she said it was crazy back then too.

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      02.11.12, 04:51 PM Flag
    • This is not true! I am an alum from a tt coed. Enrolled in the mid 70s. The process was NOTHING like this! (I just survived the K app process for my first dc, so I know this for a fact.)

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      02.11.12, 05:11 PM Flag
    • My dh went to Trinity. He had no nanny. Left for Stuyvesant.

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      02.11.12, 08:10 PM Flag
    • Another survivor of NYC in the 70s coming forward to call BS. The TT were never a gimme, but outside of a few schools you pretty much got into one if you applied to three. I would need to go back to my mom to confirm, but I know of no family who desired to send a child to private school who didn't get them in somewhere, usually without much effort. Keep in mind, the population of the city was 1 million less than today, and the percentage of school age children also much lower.

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      02.11.12, 08:13 PM Flag
  • [-]Redshirting: DB has a very late December bday. He bright and super verbal.

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    • you mean in public?

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      02.11.12, 04:05 PM Flag
    • do it if you can - really don't hear of anyone who regrets holding their child back - especially a boy. Also, around the country there are much earlier cutoff dates - as early as August that I've heard of. No downside, really!

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      02.11.12, 04:08 PM Flag
      • Except the domino effect

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    • nyc public does not permit.

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      02.11.12, 04:09 PM Flag
    • Crap - posted this before I was done typing. (And correcting my misspellings.) Anyway: bright, verbal, laaaate December boy. Academically he's ready for K, but emotionally... not so much. (And by that I mean he acts like a boy who just turned 4.) I'd like to hold him back so that he can mature, but have been told by his preschool director that of we do keep him in pre-k, he'll be thrown straight into 1st grade. Has anyone had any experience with this? Any advice? Can't afford private without a huge amount of fa.

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      02.11.12, 04:10 PM Flag
      • apply for FA (we get a lot of it) and if you get a spot, no need to reshirt. If going to public, you will have a big problem getting them to reshirt your ds

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        02.11.12, 04:14 PM Flag
    • reshirting what? If it's private your dc will start K just before the 6th bday. No need to hold back. His bday is holding him back

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      02.11.12, 04:10 PM Flag
    • Try for g&t. They won't have any kids not born in the correct year. In gen ed there will be a few repeating k who will be more than a year older than he is.

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    • send him to public K and see how it goes. Going straight into 1st grade and skipping K is MUCH worse. Children are now taught to read in K.

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      02.11.12, 04:15 PM Flag
      • op: Yeah, that's what I've been told. I thought about sending him to K, then, if it wasn't working out, making a desperate attempt for private. (Although non-diverse and needing full fa, I'm not sure we're anyone's dream.) It's just so hard - he's really young, and already kind of an anxious kid.

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        02.11.12, 04:21 PM Flag
        • some public schools have CTT classes in each grade where there are two certified teachers. Ask at local public. What public? Is it a good one?

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          02.11.12, 04:28 PM Flag
        • if its a good public, and not working out, the school may provide extra resources for free!

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          02.11.12, 04:29 PM Flag
          • Our zoned school is only okay - low test scores, most students with English as a second language, and (because they're building a new school building) their current location is a 45 minute bus ride away. Can't imagine they'd have the resources to help much. We're applying for all the unzoned schools and are crossing fingers for g&t, but I can't help thinking that he'd be so much more confident if he could just have one more year to mature. He's in a preschool class with 2-5 year olds and consistently gravitates towards the younger children. He doesn't have any definitive emotional issues that I could use as leverage - he's just very young.

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            02.11.12, 04:41 PM Flag
        • Our school had a couple of late birthday kids take K a second time. So, you can put your DC in K and if there's a problem, perhaps they will let him repeat, effectively redshirting him. FWIW, I'm not in there with the kids, but I haven't heard of any stigma on these kids -- they seem well accepted by the DC in their new grade.

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          02.11.12, 07:05 PM Flag
    • Tried to redshirt public for this exact same reason. Didn't work. Supposedly, my son had to show academic deficiency. It was an emotional issue though. He was not ready for all day k. We spent our year scrimping $$ to pay for private, because I really believe it is worth it in the long run. You pay for private for two years, and you can put him in public at the grade that he would've been for going into next in private school. It is the only way I have found works (through the advice of others) that will allow you to redshirt public schools in NYC. Good luck.

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      02.11.12, 04:23 PM Flag
      • This!! Or move to the 'burbs.

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  • [-]Nursing a 2 1/2 month old and have a vicious cold... my OB is not in today, any clue what I can take for nasal congestion?

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    • I'm sure OB has an on-call number, but I'm sure you can take saline spray, like Ayr.

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      02.11.12, 07:44 AM Flag
    • Call your pediatrician. He will tell you what is safe for you to take and nurse.

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      02.11.12, 07:47 AM Flag
    • Get a netipot from health food store--works wonders--

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      02.11.12, 07:47 AM Flag
    • Unfortunately just nasal sprays like Afrin. Some oral decongestants are technically safe but can mess with milk supply. I know it sucks. Feel better.

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      02.11.12, 07:55 AM Flag
      • don't use afrin without speaking to and MD, it is pretty localized, but may not be ok while nursing. I found that pretty much anything that dried up my nose (even if allowed by dr) also dried up my supply, so I went without.

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        02.11.12, 11:33 AM Flag
    • If not medicating, a saline nose spray will help, and be sure to drink lots and lots of water, with lemon juice, as the lemon juice will thin out the mucous. Isn't acetominophin or ibuprofen ok for nursing mothers to take? One of them helps with inflamation which will make you less congested.

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      02.11.12, 09:47 AM Flag
    • Try nasopure. They sell it on amazon. It comes with saline solution powder packs. Easy to use. I used it when I was b-feeding.

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