[-]Are looking at all of the boys' schools and have been struck by what different vibes I've gotten from them. Are they really that different? How would you describe each in one or two words?
17 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]St. B, English old-school; AS, nurturing, arty; St. D, Catholic; Buckley, sporty waspy; Collegiate, the way they've always done it.
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they've been around a looooooong time. Compared to all the other boys schools they don't do a lot of explaining or articulating their philosophy.
[ Reply | Options ]^^this is not a slam on Collegiate, btw. I know families who love the school. But as an applicant it is very hard to get a read on the school beyond its reputation. It helps if you know a family there and can get some perspective. I did not have this experience with the other boys' schools.
[ Reply | Options ]np: ITA. I'm so glad someone else said this. It was the school I felt I *should* love, but just couldn't find the reason - not bc I felt it wasn't there, but because I felt no one had told me about it. OTOH, I knew exactly what I loved about St B - they made it abundantly clear. I know that maybe Collegiate has nothing to gain by articulating hteir philosophy since they are so in demand, but OTOH, it's not like they have anything to lose!
[ Reply | Options ]ita. Don't have a dc at either school, but I felt like I knew what I would be getting into at St. B's (and therefore preferred it), where I felt like I had no idea at Collegiate (which made me uncomfortable).
[ Reply | Options ]I too thought that C made no effort to sell itself (versus dalton for example)--BUT we thought, all that history, and while I could not fully articulate the specific things I liked exactly, he is there and we love it but again, not 100% sure why...maybe they have a secret elixir drink we have drunk...but if you do get in (obviously odds are against, but just because of the numebrs) I would try and figure out a way to go--not rejectr it because you acnnot sum it up in 2 words..fwiw
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OP: For example, St. D's and Buckley--both quite formal boys' schools and expected them to be very similar, but felt completely different to me...
[ Reply | Options ]They are different, and I was very thankful for that as it made ranking them easier. That said: Buckley: Masters of the Universe in training, St. D.: nice families, somewhat boring curriculum, sacramental express, St. B.: Eccentric teachers, old-money and carpe diem environment; Collegiate: all about the high school; A-S: nurturing and where you go if you are jewish; Browning: nurturing and where you go if the other schools seem too intense.
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[-]Where can I get a decent sectional couch ($3-4K) on short order (within 1 or 2 weeks) -- PBarn is backordered - anyone else? Will travel...TIA
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[-]Currently, the Anderson School, a CITYWIDE school, is located in a shared school building in the most crowded part of District 3. When nearby elementary schools are looking at turning kids away next year for lack of seats, how can the DOE and our elected officials justify Anderson being here? I know it just moved this summer, but the location the DOE chose was pretty boneheaded (though politically popular). Why isn't it being relocated to a less crowded neighborhood???
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They are citywide...they can be located in an accessible part of ANY BOROUGH. If the DOE has enough space to sell empty school buildings to developers, as they have done in the recent past, then they must have a spot somewhere to comfortably house Anderson.
[ Reply | Options ]From the School Construction Authority's 5 year pla: Citywide public school enrollment is projected to decrease, but because of localized growth and our refined definition of maximum classroom capacity, new construction is required to meet capacity needs in certain areas of the City.
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Would have been nice to put them here: http://harlembespoke.blogspot.com/2009/08/dwell-ps-90-condominiums.html
[ Reply | Options ]Just looked at that website re: PS90 condos. Saw the link to a story about the old PS186...does anyone know if that could be reacquired for use as a public school? That location could serve Anderson well - near trains, near Columbia and other college resources, etc. http://harlembespoke.blogspot.com/2009/06/protect-ps-186.html
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Everyone says that, but what not? Just because the mayor's $$ supporters and politically connected parents would blanch? I know it's hard to move schools, but really - there's no way to justify keeping it where it is.
[ Reply | Options ]are you going to reimburse all the parents who donated their time and $$ to the school to get building into shape, including such things as building shelves and closets from scratch and clearing away all the mice debris? you act as if it's really no big deal to pick up and move again. enough already.
[ Reply | Options ]they can do it bc they haven't even broken ground on their playground. it makes sense.
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Not really - the entire city is crowded! Have you paid attention to the huge fights going on in Harlem over space re zoned schools and charter schools? All these posters are trying to do is push a NIMBY argument - "we pay a lot in rent and thus Anderson should be booted to the areas that don't because our kids deserve better."
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Seems to me that the whole idea of Anderson and city wides don't really make sense anymore. since equally "qualified" dcs are placed at g&ts, what makes the citywide so special? since the admissions is so arbitrary, I don't see why they should be maintained separately from g&ts. they should get rid of citywides and focus on making the district g&ts stronger
[ Reply | Options ]Citywides can operate without the competing demands and agendas of the school principals that district G&Ts frequently have to deal with. Some principals only grudgingly support District G&T programs. Citywides have a proven track record and frankly are among the best schools in the NYC public system. Why would the DOE just dismantle highly successful schools just to serve some abstract idea that "they don't make sense anymore"? This has nothing to do with admissions or the relative qualities of the student body compared to district G&Ts.
[ Reply | Options ]NEST and ANderson are the #1 and #2 ranked schools in the city and perhaps the state. Why in the world would the DOE dismantle their crown jewels?
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Currently in the now gone MS 44 building where Anderson is housed, there are 2 middle schools: the Computer School and the new West Prep Academy. So you would have a zoned elementary school move into a building with 2 middle schools? Or would you want Anderson AND the 2 D3 middle schools to move?
[ Reply | Options ]MS44 is still there, at least through the 2010-2011 school year, so actually, anderson k-8 shares with three middle schools. not ideal for the k-5ers.
[ Reply | Options ]Do the posters above think that Anderson occupies an entire building by themselves?
[ Reply | Options ]i wish anderson did. i wish anderson and computer school shared the building. and i wish anderson would add a high school.
[ Reply | Options ]Anderson expanding to a high school would definitely endanger Computer School - a school many local kids attend. So you would be displacing local kids to expand a citywide.
[ Reply | Options ]I'm an Anderson parent with one dc still there and one in HS. Anderson should NOT add a high school. There are already many rather fantastic HS's in NYC that Anderson kids would rather attend than taking a chance on a small HS that would by definition have very limited offerings at the start. HS's are completely different entities from K-8's. Families won't take a risk on a new, untried HS when their kid could be going to Stuy, Bronx Sci, LaGuardia, American Studies, etc. Not with only 4 years to go before college.
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MS 44 is being phased out so this year its 7th and 8th and next year just 8th graders
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Please remember that the students at any citywide school are still residents of NYC and not foreign marauders who have stolen from the villagers. As a matter of fact, about 40% of Anderson students currently reside on the UWS.
[ Reply | Options ]Or why can't the city put some money in to creating another Nest or Anderson? Take what works, leave behind what doesn't(overcrowding for instance), and set up some more choices for our kids.
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Although you just paid a sh$tload of taxpayer money to move the Anderson School over the summer, we want you to use more taxpayer money to move it again. Please do this and don't use that money to improve schools in District 3 to the point that I'd be willing to send my child to more than just the handful of schools on my list.
[ Reply | Options ]Even though nearly half of the Anderson student body lives on the UWS, they are interlopers. Move the school to a different neighborhood so that those local residents can cry NIMBY. This will probably mean that you'll have to move the school annually in response to local outcry, but that's okay by me!
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Without Anderson in the building, there will be room for 600+ local students, fragmented off from their local public schools. Perhaps the 4th & 5th grade from PS 87? You can pay for an additional library for those students, additional art room, music room etc. And the school administration won't mind in the least having part of their staff segmented away from the PS 87 building, and having to pay them for the time it will take for them to run back and forth between the two buildings for meetings, school assemblies, teacher training and the like. That lost instructional time will be well worth it as the 4th & 5th grades share the building not only with 2-3 middle schools, but also with the ragtag remnants of other overflow students from...
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[-]Humor me. Let's say we FC a school, get an accept, and then don't go. What is the worst that could happen?
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Hypothetically - Apply to a long shot school but FC a different one that looks possible to help put us over the edge. Get accepts at that one as well as a pleasantly surprising accept at the long shot that we prefer. (Or could apply to one school that doesn't care about FC and one that does. FC the one that does but end up going to other).
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a fc letter without confirmation from a psd doesn't mean much. if you tell your psd that a school is your fc and the psd knows the school wants you, the psd will put off the other schools.
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I would guess no since they are pretty low key and try not to stress about applying out...some go to public, etc.
[ Reply | Options ]Don't assume that. Our school has plenty of people who go public, but they definitely talk to the schools during exmissions. I think the schools that have no communication are the ones that are more day care centers and are a somewhat different model. Most of the preschools I've heard of do help with exmissions to at least some extent.
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[-]To the mom with the bipolar nanny. please, please, please do not let someone who is bipolar watch your children. i have a good deal of experience with this disease. It is in our family. We know the symptoms well and it is still scary for us. this is NOT a person who should be responsible for a child. ESPECIALLY if her meds are starting to do funky things.
4 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]This is a totally irresponsible post. There was no indication that the meds were "starting to do funky things." Lethargy is a common side effect and is does not indicate the medications are not working. The woman probably needs to take certain drugs at a different time of day. that she self-reported this is a sign she is healthy and responsibly taking care of her disability.
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Like the name Jackson but think Jaxon is trying too hard. Your DS will forever be correcting people on the proper spelling of his name.
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OP here: Wow, what a reaction. I appreciate the feedback. My DH asked me about this combo last night. He had met a little boy at work (he's a photographer and had a kid photoshoot) with the name and liked it (thought it was unique). I'm pregnant now (#2 for us) but we don't know the sex so we're making a list of names. I didn't think "white trash" or trailer park but it is good to get a bunch of knee-jerk reactions here.
[ Reply | Options ]It makes me think of Ajax, as in the cleaning chemical. I think it goes under "Wal-Mart" names...
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[-]Need idea for birthday party for 6 y.o. DS. What's the most fun boy's birthday party you've been to in NYC?
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[-]ds took ERB three weeks ago tomorrow, still no message on site saying "processing." ugh! i thought ppl had their results in two weeks when online!
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[-]I've heard that Ronnie Moskowitz (founder of Washington Market) does not have a formal background in education. What's her background? College degree?
16 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]I don't know anything about that school, but I don't find it unusual at all. Many schools are started by parents out of need.
[ Reply | Options ]Started by, sure. But running an established school becomes a much bigger deal -- decisions like which children are developing normally vs. which need evaluation, who learns best in what settings, who would thrive at which school down the road, etc. No?
[ Reply | Options ]ted turner, bill gates and tom brokaw. none graduated from college, all excellent at their jobs.
[ Reply | Options ]Not at all, there are operational functions that any good manager/project manager should be able to navigate. I imagine that a huge percentage of a HOS job is fundraising and schmoozing neither of which a teaching degree prepares one for. I don't think HOS spends much time with IEPs they have to know how to hire good people and keep those people happy (or at least marginally so).
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[-]any thoughts about ps 261 in Brooklyn? (especially compared to ps 8 and ps 29)
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[-]annyone applying their DC for an off year private spot? What grade?
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[-]If you aren't interviewed by HOA at Brearley, is it a no go (like at Dalton)?
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[-]Do private schools want to see your SB score? ERB was high 90s and the SB is exactly the same in terms of percentile. Does this add anything if it is the same and both are fine?
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[-]Mommies, if you had unlimited funds, where would you move for good schools and as close as possible to NYC???? TIA
39 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]Manhattan is a great place if you are very wealthy so I would stay in the city and have a great weekend place.
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Any upscale community will have good schools- Scarsdale, NY; Greenwich, CT; Mountain Lakes, NJ
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It depends what you are like. I grew up there and there were very nice down to earth ppl and others who were super jappy. South has tons of Asians and North is all Persian. Great schools though. I personally feel that all areas with money tend to have entitles brats and parents there it just depends who you surround yourself with.
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No not the high schools, I remember they had a nice private there names Kew Forest.
[ Reply | Options ]It has a "blue ribbon" from insideschools. http://insideschools.org/index12.php?fs=1183&str=High%20Schools;%2011375&formtype=location
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Check out PS 101, that's the zoned school there. Forest Hills HS is a very good school, but I went to Brooklyn Tech, so I can't vouch for it personally.
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OR: like thos one http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/477815-house-95-tennis-place-forest-hills
[ Reply | Options ]or this one: http://www.foresthillshouses.com/content/giant-tudor-6-bedrooms-second-floor-more-room-unfinished-attic-2-car-garage-sunken-living-ro. Sigh, back to reality.
[ Reply | Options ]I love how cheap the taxes are for that house. My house is nearly 1M and my taxes are 20K.
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Do you need to be close to NYC because someone will be commuting, or just because you want to be able to easily visit? Personally, if commute weren't an issue I wouldn't chose to live somewhere like Greenwich or Scarsdale. I'd go to New Jersey horse country (Oldwyck, Chester, etc.), Northern Westchester, Putnam County or somewhere like that.
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[-]If not at K, what is the next entry point for Brearley and Chapin?
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np--I think there are usually only a very small number of openings though--I would guess under 10, with fewer for 6th than 9th grade.
[ Reply | Options ]The tt girls schools lose a decent percentage of students in 9th grade to coed, boarding, and less academically demanding schools. Entry in 9th grade is very competitive. At this point, schools are looking to bring in extraordinarily bright students who will make their college placements even more impressive.
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