[-]Did i miss the Hunter deadline? too late to sign up for test?
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[-]what time do your school age children go to bed? I have found that some of the children in my dd and ds respective classes who have problems tend to go to bed on the later side. I am big believer it should be between 7 and 8 (closer to 7). Thoughts?
74 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]6 y/o dc goes to bed between 8 and 8:30. the dc in his class i would vote most likely to become a sociopath goes to bed whenever he wants or whenever mom can deal. usually at least 10, sometimes later.
[ Reply | Options ]np: wow, 10 is late for a 6 yo. i think different kids probably need different amounts of sleep, but not having a bedtime at all or a really late bedtime that's convenient for the parents is probably an indicator of a family situation that may not be the most conducive to good behavior. my 5 yo goes to bed at 8.
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What age are you talking about? I think sleep deprivation is a big issue for my 13 year old. I try to get her to bed by 9 and often settle for 9:30 or 10PM (up at 6:40AM). It's not enough sleep for her.
[ Reply | Options ]to bed 7yo 9:30pm; 9yo 10:00pm and sleep about a half hour later. My dc have never needed much sleep unfortunately. They do not have behavioral or academic issues, just low sleep requirement like their dad.
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no, both slender and I usually have to buy slim pants for both. dd is 50% weight, ds is 75%. their sleep is meeting their needs. they need 9-9.5 hrs regardless of season, day of the week, bedtime. even this past summer when they could sleep in every day if they wanted, they were always up consistently after 9-9.5hrs. It stands to reason that an average sleep will have dc on both sides of the spectrum with higher/lower sleep needs. Mine have lower needs. DH is the same and never needs more than 5hrs a night. I need 8-9hrs so it sucks for me, but they are all perfectly happy.
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5 yr old used to go to be at 8 but since starting K, it's 7, and she falls right asleep.
[ Reply | Options ]Falling asleep is one thing, but how on earth do you get a school age child to bed at 7? I come from a country where kids stay up late and never had a bedtime--certainly didn't hurt me any at academically! I think 7 or 7:30 past babyhood or young toddlerhood is ridiculous, but if it works for your kids and you can do it, great.
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i never had a strict bedtime, used to play outside until 6, eat, then play until 8, and go to sleep around 9 or 10. Even if I would've slept 10 hours, I would still be up at 7, which is plenty of time to get ready for school at 8:30. same with all my siblings and all the other immigrant parent kids i know.
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my dcs go to bed about 9:30. They are definitely tired in the morning. ON weekends, though, they wakes up ridiculously early on their own! Between one thing and another it is almost impossible to get them to sleep earlier. I know people say that makes us terrible parents, so be it. They are sweet as can be and absolutely no behavior problems and incredibly energetic when I see them at home in the afternoons--play nonstop--but they are definitely hard to get up so I assume more sleep would be good.
[ Reply | Options ]My four year old goes to bed between 8-9pm and takes a two hour nap. No behavior problems.
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because napping in kindergarten isn't an option. and then you'll be stuck trying to get a cranky, sleep-deprived dc adjusting to school on a new sleep schedule. translation: nightmare.
[ Reply | Options ]I don't think so. First of all, its still 10 months away so he might outgrow the nap by then. Even if he doesn't he can make it until 3:00 when schools out and then nap at home. He sometimes has to be on this schedule now and its fine.
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Why are you so negative? Some dcs outgrown naps at 2.5 or 3 or 4 or 5. OR's might outgrown it this year.
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np. i have to say that every mom i ever knew who let their dcs go to bed whenever and nap at age four were slammed when they had to suddenly deal with school. i'm not saying dcs can't grow out of naps and suddenly start going to bed at a consistent and reasonable hour at age 5. but it's not usually the case when it's been that long of go with the flow. just posting an observation
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My DH is from an immigrant family, he is Indian. He never had a bedtime and thinks it was really bad for him as a kid, he thinks it stunted his emotional and physical growth. He wants to make sure that our DD (she is a baby right now) has an early bedtime.
[ Reply | Options ]3.7 year old, preschool ds goe to bed at 6:15, up at 6-6:30. just dropped his nap, and making it til 6pm is hard! he needs his sleep!
[ Reply | Options ]my 6 year old is in bed between 8-8:30, up anywhere between 6:45 and 7:30. if i put her to bed earlier,she most likely would not sleep and i would hardly see her at all m-f. schedule works for us.
[ Reply | Options ]This is me. I work full time so I don't want to get home and immediately have to put her to sleep so I put my 3.9 year old to bed between 8:30 and 9 and she wakes up around 7:15. She's well behaved and her teachers say she's a joy in preschool so I see no problems. On the weekends we generally let her stay up as late as she wants so we can all hang out so it's closer to 11 with her waking up around 9is. It works for us as well.
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Thoughts? I think you are an extremely judgmental sanctimommy. I love that you are evaluating kids in your children's classes for "problems" and collecting data on their bedtimes. Forget that cause and effect might not be operating in exactly the way you seem to be concluding, as in "parents who are not as effective as I am in getting my children to sleep at an extremely early hour are making us ALL pay the price". No? Am I reading this wrong?
[ Reply | Options ]I get home at 7, so wouldn't work for us. Can't imagine getting them in that early even if I had better hours. If early works for you, great.
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no. in the case of sleep, which is crucial for a growing dc, you don't skimp on it for the convenience of the parents.
[ Reply | Options ]Huh? Parents have to make a living, if they don't walk into the door until 7 it is obviously not possible for dc to be in bed then. Half hour to talk to mom about your day is very important for a 5-7 yo, too.
[ Reply | Options ]they can talk to mom and dad in the morning then. if you are propping dcs' eyes open up so you can actually see them conscious for two minutes a night you need to re-think your priorities. move closer to work, figure out a way to juggle your schedules (mom goes in at 8 and is home by 6, dad goes in at 9 and is home by 7). make some sacrifices that don't involve your dcs' health and well-being.
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Me too, but our nanny puts the kids to bed and I sneak in. Unfortunately, if the kids know I'm home, they won't go to bed until 9.
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[-]Another NEST question. Does anyone understand the recent email about kids having to start wearing plastic ID cards all day? I don't want to ask on the NEST forums because they're a little...high intensity, esp. when discussing admin. decisions. Anyone know what this is about?
33 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]Are you referring to this memo. "it has come to my attention that many of the children no longer have the IDs that were made for them when they first started at NEST+m. As it would help the School Nurse, the new Aides and the Dining Hall staff to have the children wear their IDs during certain parts of the day, I've asked the teachers to help identify all the students who need new IDs so that we can make sure every student has one. Thanks for your support on this endeavour."
[ Reply | Options ]... seems to me completely reasonable you portray "wearing plastic ID cards All Day" is a bit skewed.
[ Reply | Options ]np: they are being asked to wear them all day, no? If not how will the new Aides and Dining Hall staff see them? BTW, is the capitalization in the memo or did OR add it?
[ Reply | Options ]nope not all day, just to have them: I for one would want the school Nurse to be absolutely positive of the ID of my child before say giving nasal mist for H1N1 (which could hurt my child)
[ Reply | Options ]You can't trust your child to tell the nurse his/her name? I always thought NEST was getting an unjustified bad rap here but kids in school having nametags is an insane rule.
[ Reply | Options ]Sure the child is in Kindergarten can speak and write name address and telephone number; still two children in Brooklyn were injected with H1N1 vaccine without parental consent - the school nurse said they called the name and another child was sent to the office - nurse should have reverified - an ID would have helped - no real damage was done - but if child had an egg allergy or if given the mist and has asthma you never know what could have happened.
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can I ask politely that since we have asked for more communication that it would not be a great idea to criticize the communication we get - I'm sure the author knows all the grammar rules- there are different standards when typing at places such as this rather than formal letters at least in my book
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Do you understand the new policy, then? Sounds to me that they'll be wearing plastic IDs every day.
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not a nest parent, but is this really necessary? presumably a genius who tested into nest can identify himself unless comatose. it just makes the school seem like a factory. glad our (very crowded) school doesn't do this.
[ Reply | Options ]nest students use the id to check out library books & classroom books and to charge lunch - not to id themselves.
[ Reply | Options ]gosh, we use the old-fashioned way. i guess we don't have enough reverentia pro sciencia at our school.
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it really is very helpful, (e.g. at my local gen ed free school lunch children are identified on a list which is supposed to be confidential but it becomes apparent who is getting free lunch - with a bar code parents pay website on the back end, or not, and there is no stigma - at least that is the way it is supposed to work.
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OR - did I come across as high intensity? because I tried to tone it down.......
[ Reply | Options ]OP here, and I didn't think so, and I really don't want to be hypercritical at all - I give the new AP the full benefit of the doubt and she seems great so far - but I've never heard of an elementary school requiring kids to wear ids and I thought the email was cryptic enough so that maybe I just didn't understand. If it means that they grab them when they're off to the library, that makes sense. If it means they are wearing them clipped to their shirts all day or at recess, that seems very institutional and sort of creepy
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perhaps you should come to school at least once a month to understand what is going on.
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[-]BTDT moms or Admissions personnel: tips on writing the "what will your child offer our school" essay for K admissions? anything you think set your application for dc apart from others in this area? insider knowledge about what they're looking for and what big turn offs are? TIA
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[-]erb question: if a school does not require the erb (example PK Fieldston) but says it would welcome any materials, would you send a copy of your report, or have the ERB send it directly? Also, which is the minimum score would you send (if not mandatory)? thanks
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[-]Claremont, 3's program. Would love thoughts from parents. TIA!
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[-]Claremont nursery. I know nothing about this. Looks like parents love it, good exmissions on saavysource. But some people bash it on UB. Why? Are they bashing the whole school? Just the upper grades? New to all of this, trying to get my bearings. tx
2 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]op: Never mind. I just figured out the Claremont Prep (Wall St) vs. Claremont Children's School (UWS) confusion. Claremont Prep is not the pre-K with amazing exmissions, it's a separate (though possibly related?) entity that is K-12. If anyone has further clarifications, I'll be watching.
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[-]DS got 99/95/97 on ERBs -- will that be good enough for TT, comments were good.
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There are enough posted 99x3 scores on this board alone to fill most of the TT spots for kids who are not connected, so I really don't see this as some sort of foregone conclusion.
[ Reply | Options ]np: mine just got 98/95/96 and PSD said the score was fantastic. I dunno, maybe she is just trying to make us feel good, but I'm sure she's seen plenty of scores. and either way, you're one up on us.
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I agree, but there are those who love to respond that the TT schools don't discriminate against low scoring kids, which they don''t, provided the applicants can play the violin like Isaac Stern or or sing like Maria Callas.
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we're applying to dalton, trinity, collegiate, - others not considered tt on this board, SA, Speyer and Ethical
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I'm not sure it makes a diff either way, but wanted to see which was P and which V. It's a good score. That said, everything else has to be in place like above posters have said, primarily play date and then school report. (Do you have a top choice yet? Our list is not far different.)
[ Reply | Options ]We were actually unexpectedly blown away by Speyer. DS can read pretty well and is very motivated and creative. TT is security, but it also starts out pretty slow and not all that jazzy, so we're underwhelmed. If we had lots of choice, which I know we won't Collegiate, SA and Speyer are the top 3.
[ Reply | Options ]What do you mean TT is security? Great you liked Speyer, we haven't looked. Let's talk SA - I expected to love it and really didn't, felt chaotic to me. Pls tell me why you liked it? Don't have a top 3 yet, still seeing a couple more.
[ Reply | Options ]I think TT schools are vastly better at HS and really pretty lame at elementary for a kid that is at all advanced. I know others disagree and I'm not trying to pick a fight. Have close friends at SA and I like their artsy, creative and literary focus for ds. Math and science worry me, but it otherwise seems like a good fit. Perhaps because Speyer is new they give lots of detail about fab curriculum and a very individualized approach to the kids. Also, loved that they do chess and fencing and Singapore Math.
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np: come on, let's not have this fight - erbs don't really measure a kid at this age.
[ Reply | Options ]not all kids test well. My neice who is doing math, building elaborate structures,huge vocabulary got a 119 on the SB. Clearly not reflective of her abilities. Some kids don't take a test seriously. Not saying she's gifted but most likely has a higher iq than reflected by the test given at 4 yo
[ Reply | Options ]But part of giftedness is the skill to sit with an adult for one hr and stay focused and enjoy it and not want to rush. All those things are part of the test, not ancillary to it. Why don't people get that. Doesn't matter that she's doing math, can she answer the questions and take it seriously.
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[-]How long did your DD take to complete the Hunter SB5? I'm afraid DD got rushed out because next appoint. had arrived. Put my mind at ease please
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[-]For this year only, what is the highest SB score you've heard of for Hunter admission?
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It actually doesn't guaranteed your admission even if you got the highest score. Even if your dc got a phenomenal high score, it is no guarantee of brilliance or success. So, get over it and remember that he/she is only 4 years old.
[ Reply | Options ]yup. and if the parents are assholes, it counts against you. sadly, your continued posts onthis topic seem to indicate that your personality flaws will harm your child's chances.
[ Reply | Options ]ita. hunter parents secretly roll their eyes when faced with a braggy parent. our kids are all geniuses--we don't care if your kid got 1,789,000 on the SB.
[ Reply | Options ]NP: Look, she's not bragging. She's asking for a poll to see how the numbers might shake out this year (compared to last). Guess nobody wants to play.
[ Reply | Options ]OP here: Thank You! Not bragging at all, just curious what scores are like this year since everyone thinks that that the cut off goes up every year. FWIW my DS got a 140 and I am happy with it but I wanted to know what others had gotten. Everyone is so evil and assumes the worst of everyone on UB!
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Come on, she's just trying for a poll. No worse than the endless Noa, Aiden, and Jaxon baby name polls.
[ Reply | Options ]I love how the board feels quiet like no one's here, and then someone says something that pisses people off and POW there's dozens waiting in the wings to strike. Ahh, the joys of UB.
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[-]Just heard a talk from Roxana Reid from Smart City Kid, and she said the child's preschool does the Bracken. This is not how I understand the process, and asked a question and she seemed adament that this was how it is. I thought the Bracken was part of the test kids take when they show up for the OLSAT. Is there some other assessment that goes to preschools for the G&T programs? TIA
5 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]public preK's administer the test Bracken and OLSAT together. if you're not in public preK you take both when you show up on your designated day at a public school
[ Reply | Options ]Thanks. The talk was at a non-public preschool, so I think her information was not correct, but wasn't sure.
[ Reply | Options ]perhaps she means her school teaches the Bracken - which it should - because teh Bracken is a school readiness test (for K) - shapes, numbers, colors etc...
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[-]BTDT moms or Admissions personnel: tips on writing the "what will your child offer our school" essay for K admissions? anything you think set your application for dc apart from others in this area? insider knowledge about what they're looking for and what big turn offs are? TIA
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[-]dcs that took erb 3 weeks ago. did you get your report already? thanks
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[-]BTDT moms or Admissions personnel: tips on writing the "what will your child offer our school" essay for K admissions? anything you think set your application for dc apart from others in this area? insider knowledge about what they're looking for and what big turn offs are? TIA
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[-]It it ridiculous to think our dc would be a lock at Trinity as long as she aces ERB and child visit goes well? Dh and I are smart and present well, interesting jobs, offer ethnic diversity, but are not super rich. We have a very strong contact (board member) who will advocate for us, but are we fooling ourselves that we have a great chance? Obviously, not sib or legacy. Thanks for any insight.
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[-]am i the only one who really enjoyed my coach dave interview at friends? it was so refreshing not to be sitting across from an older woman!
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[-]I grew up in NYC and went to a hilltop school that I would love to send my dc's to. It's interesting to me that most of my friends who went to Dalton are choosing not to even apply there for their dc.
18 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]Grew up here also I think that is because Dalton was not really considered as great academically as it is today. Monied, celebrities with no a lot going on upstairs was the rep. From this board and the way people talk about it I guess it has changed a lot.
[ Reply | Options ]i think there are more dcs applying to ALL schools, public and private, bc more dcs in the city, not moving to burbs. i don't think this means D specifically has gotten better. unless a rising tide lifts all boats.
[ Reply | Options ]Not enough is discussed here about the other factors impacting the application process.The NYC BoEd has become more of a mess than any nightmare could've depicted. Public Schools didn't suffer the same 'structure' of overall territory lines; parent bodies were more strongly bonded in schools; $$ didn't control or dictate the population permitted to attend. There was far more diversity within Manhattan PS and a higher quality of instruction.Now that we have families believing their tax $$, prop values and mortgage payments entitle them to a better school for their kids, there's a higher rate of apps to privates and a rush to G&T.
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We are at Dalton now and given the number of legacies in the lower school, not every Dalton alumni feels the way your friends do.
[ Reply | Options ]Growing up in NYC, I knew lots of Dalton kids.I always assumed it was a great school because the majority of those kids were fun,well spoken,creative, independent and smart. Granted it was a different world, but we got a lot out of our nyc. Hanging out was like one big enrichment field trip for us. Their focus on diversity didn't just start, so it was always a great mixed crowd.I'm certain some families weren't ready to accept that focus on diversity and may have 'passed',on just that point.Doubtless there were some dull kids there-just like there are in every "tt", but overall my friends went on to pursue higher education aligned with their interests.Isn't that success?
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Yes, it's true, and head of school is talking about it tomorrow at the pa meeting. I'm a long time Grace mom. The high school is planned to open in two years, adding a grade per year.
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Are parents generally excited about this prospect or are people putting out a negative vibe?
[ Reply | Options ]The verdict is not out yet. People don't know what to think. I think the parents who have kids who will be eligible to attend at the start are not too thrilled.
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^^nevermind...i realized its because school will then be less inclined to help kids apply out.
[ Reply | Options ]But you don't need that much help to apply for HS. Schools are looking at the kids, if dc is impressive they will get a spot. I know several kids that have applied to private HS from public and did well. And it may be nice for the kids to have a place to stay if they don't get into the HS of their choice.
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does that mean it is another situation where parents will not get help if they decide to switch their child's school for HS (which many kids WANT at that point)?
[ Reply | Options ]np--What they're saying is that kids can apply out and that Grace will help, but it will be under less stressful circumstances, as the children will have a guaranteed fallback spot in the new high school. They can apply to fewer schools. The plan is to have about 80 kids per grade in the new high school. Grace has about 40 in 8th grade, so there will be much-needed openings for other kids also. Some of the Grace children will want to apply to boarding schools and some to other schools still, but it will be an easier process.
[ Reply | Options ]except parents at schools with recently added grades tell different stories. The latest I heard was from mary McDowell, parents saying the school no longer helps the way it used to. Weren't people saying this about Mandell some time ago too?
[ Reply | Options ]There is a world of difference between applying for K and applying for HS. Even the K-8 boys schools don't seem to be doing much brokering at that level, as the boys I know had several acceptances.
[ Reply | Options ]I am not concerned about brokering, on the contrary, I have heard of cases of near sabotage by schools that seemed to want to retain good students from families that also donate $$$. I am talking about problems with letters and even transcript errors, that sort of thing. Don't think it doesn't happen. There is no reason to think Grace would stoop to any of that, OTOH when good students apply out, there is an inherent conflict of interests, and that is a problem, and parents worry, with reason.
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