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  • [-]Swine flu vaccine - is your dc getting it?

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    09.11.09, 05:35 PM [ Flag ]
    • our doctor recommended against the vaccine. We seem to think that she had it anyway bc she had a really high fever in the spring for a few days and there were many other dc with that problem and now he thinks it was the swine flu.

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      09.11.09, 05:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • No. No safety tests. And there are other ways to avoid or treat the flu.

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      09.11.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • no

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      09.12.09, 07:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I'm really on the fence. We usually don't get flu vaccines and we've never had the flu. I spoke to the Ped. yesterday about it. It should come out in Oct. Right now the CDC is recommending everyone from 0-24 years, but she said the recommendations are changing every day. A friend in Maine said that they are vaccinating all the school-aged children AT school!

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      09.12.09, 07:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I would have a heart attack if someone gave my kid a shot at school or even asked for permission for that matter. We had bible class at school (public) and kids had the option of opting out, those kids were treated like devil worshipers or something I would imagine kids who opt out of the shot would be teased by other kids.

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        09.12.09, 07:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Yeah, I agree it's overstepping the line. Offering them to parents is one thing, forcing parents to opt out is another.

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          09.12.09, 08:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • No. We don't get flu shots, either. My 8 yo has never missed a day of school, fwiw. Never gets sick.

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      09.12.09, 07:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • yes. just like my dc gets the regular flu shot every year. he also has asthma and im hoping we avoid the flu until it comes out.

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      09.12.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • My dc has asthma, too. That's the reason why I don't want to challenge his immune system any further with all the chemicals. I'm curious what you based your decision on? Do you know this study: "Effectiveness of influenza vaccine for the prevention of asthma exacerbations." 800 children with asthma were tested and the study failed to provide evidence that the flu shot works in children with asthma.

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        09.12.09, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np The flu shot is ineffective in preventing FLU in asthma kids or the flu shot is ineffective in preventing asthma exacerbations? Two different things.

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          09.13.09, 09:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i too am on the fence about it. if pediatricians differ in their opinions, how do parents make their decisions?

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      09.13.09, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I am a doctor and my kid will be absolutely get the vaccine. The facts are: regular seasonal flu affects people at a mean age of 24 and swine flu has a mean age of 9. 1/3 of the global population will get the flu and 40/1000 will get sick enough to require hospitalization. 1/1000 will die. The difference is that these 1/1000 won't be elderly people like a typical flu season but rather people with robust immune systems (mostly young adults and kids.) The risk of having a complication from the vaccine is less than the risk of having a complication from the virus. That is why we will take the shot.

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      09.13.09, 11:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • interesting-i am a hospital employee and was just informed that we are all mandated by board of health to get swine vaccine. i am sort of upset to have no choice. afraid of side effects too...

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        09.13.09, 12:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • You cannot say "40/1000 WILL get sick" or "1/1000 WILL die". There is a possibility for that, yes. But stating this as a FACT is fear mongering and lacks scientific evidence. The yearly official "flu deaths" of 36'000 that are established every year by the CDC is grossly exaggerated. If you take a look at the statistics, less than 1000 people each year die of the flu, the other 35'000 die of pneumonia. Yes, it's a complication of the flu, but many elderly get pneumonia in the hospitals, where there are tons of germs around. The swine flu also turned out a lot milder than predicted. How do you explain the fact that during the 1976 swine flu "epidemic" 1 person died of the virus and 19 of the vaccine?

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        09.13.09, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • no

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      09.13.09, 11:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My grandparents never got flu shots, except my grandmother ONE TIME. My parents never got flu shots, except my dad ONE TIME. My siblings and I never got flu shots. My KIDS never got flu shots. And in our entire extended family literally since 1960, there have been only TWO cases of the flu -- you guessed it -- Grandma got it a week after her flu shot, and Dad got it a week after his. Flu shots are total BS!

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      09.13.09, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • No, doesn't get flue vaccine either. never has and has been fine. i am pg and i will not get getting it either.

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      09.13.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • yes

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      09.13.09, 12:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]What should the HHI be if we want to spend 3500 on renting a house in LA? We have no kids, no debt, no school loans, just car insurance...

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    09.11.09, 10:57 AM [ Flag ]
    • If you have no kids, you shouldn't be on here...Please go away strange stalker.

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      09.11.09, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: I recently had a 13 wk MISCARRIAGE. We are TTC, but its long road for us, and I am not a stalker.

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        09.11.09, 11:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I used to live in LA (westside) and $3500 in Los Angeles seems like a lot of house for two people! What is the general rule...1/3 of your income, tops? My math on the spot is not great, but $150k?

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          09.11.09, 11:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I'm sorry to hear that. I posted here after my 2nd mc, and found it helpful. idiots like first OR excluded, of course.

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          09.11.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • So the TTC option for the thread is there just for stalkers??

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        09.11.09, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • NP - responder didn't need to be so nasty, but OP should not have written "no kids" instead of "TTC". OP did give the impression that it's just the two of them and likely would remain that way, since s/he did not include any planned conception/pregnancy/child care expenses in the budget.

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          09.11.09, 11:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • And the Obama posts and what kind of purse do you own and what's for dinner are all stalker posts?

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            09.11.09, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • After I m/c'd, I was way too scared to plan for being pregnant or child care. And even though I saw an RE, I didn't need to budget for conception issues becuase my insurance covered it. Why are we dissecting the words of a post when other stupid off-topic posts are on this board the entire time? One of the longest running threads I have seen is "What's your favorite book," do you want people to respond based on the number of children they have or plan to have??

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            09.11.09, 11:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • What is with the unofficial board police? Plenty of posters on here without kids and plenty of topics on here which have nothing to do with kids. Put them on ignore, OP. I love LA and wish I could convince my husband to move there as we would get more work. I've heard really good things about West Hollywood. Safe and not too expensive. I have talked my husband into possible going for a few months and we would be renting, but probably in an apartment.

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      09.11.09, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • OP: thanks for the supportive posts. We are actively TTC at CWRC in NYC, but things are not going well. DH has a new job and we are relocating to LA. I will begin TTC again after a couple month. I wanted to focus on the move. We are only renting a year, and I figured I would not have given birth by then... HHI should be at 220. We are looking at 3 bedrooms (DH wants Home office - plus I want a guest room) with a pool ( i love swimming as exercise and stress relief. The area we are looking it has this for about 3000 - 4000 a month in rent. I am just checking to see if I am looking in the right price range.

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      09.11.09, 11:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ^sorry about typos! eating an apple while i type!

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        09.11.09, 11:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • This sounds about correct OP though I'm not sure about the pool part of it. Though LA is expensive, your money does go a bit further there than in NYC.

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        09.11.09, 11:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]For those who have BTDT, what are the pluses and minuses of having children close in age (i.e. under 2 years apart)? Same question for having children who are, say, at least 3 years apart?

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    09.05.09, 05:07 PM [ Flag ]
    • I think it depends more on the sex of the children. A friend of mine had her 2 dd's 4 years apart and all they did was fight all the time, another one had kids two years apart and they play okay but don't really get along (boy/girl) my brother and I are less than 2 years apart and we don't get along either.

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      09.05.09, 05:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Having your kids further apart - it's easier to handle both of them at the same time since the older one is less dependent on you when the new one is born. They can at least somewhat comprehend that they have to be gentle with the baby, why you can't attend to them right away if you're doing something for the baby, etc. If you're a SAHM, it also means you get to spend more time one-on-one with the younger one since the older one is probably in school already or soon after the second's birth. I was also pleasantly surprised at how much they play together, even though there's over 3 years age gap. Negatives - just when things are starting to get easier with # 1, you're back in the really intensive baby / toddler stage, and it does draw ou...

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      09.05.09, 05:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Well, I can only speak as someone who has a 5.5 y/o DD and a 7 month old, but having an older child around has been extremely helpful! DD is great with her little brother and very helpful for me too.

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      09.05.09, 06:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Agreed. My children are 5 years apart. The older one is understanding is willing to help with things. If the older one is younger, I think they might not be as understanding.

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        09.05.09, 06:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np mine were 21mo apart and #1 would fetch/help to the best of her ability. It depends on the db's

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          09.05.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My kids are 14 months apart. The first year and a half was hard, but now, it is awesome. (currently ages 4 and 5) They play together, like many of the same things, and we enjoy it. Not for everyone though.

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      09.05.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • here are the pros that i've experienced by having dcs close in age. it's easier in a lot of ways: you already have diapers and other paraphernalia around and it's just a question of which kid gets which size, you can do things with them together, there's less jealousy b/c they basically don't remember a time when their sibling wasn't around. it's easier on you in some ways b/c there's an overlap on the age that htey take your full attention, instead of giving your full attention to one dc for 2 years and then starting again with another dc a few years later. the cons, in my experience, are that it's a lot of work in the first few years. but again, you are compressing all that work into a combined time.

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      09.05.09, 07:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]after 10 years of marriage i am finally admitting that i have never been attracted to my husband sexually. i married him for emotional security as he is a wonderful man. that being said, the thought that he is the only man i will ever be with again makes me feel very trapped and sad. especially since i never really did much exploring. anyone have any experience?

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    08.29.09, 12:56 PM [ Flag ]
    • have an affair!

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      08.29.09, 01:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP here - i know.. i have been struggling with the urge to do so but i would rather just leave him because it feels more honest. i am not afraid of being single.

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        08.29.09, 01:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • oh. i had an affair because i am a sahm and am afraid to be single. so if you're not afraid, leave him.

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          08.29.09, 01:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np: how did you find the time? Just curious...

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            08.29.09, 01:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ditto. I'm a SAHM and having an affair. Not afraid of being single but of the divorce process. DH hasn't wanted to have sex with me for over 2 years!

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            08.29.09, 01:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • is your dh involved with someone else too? sounds like you're just roommates but i understand hesitation of divorce when you have dc.

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              08.30.09, 01:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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            08.29.09, 01:45 PM [ | ]
    • Wow this is me too. Generally happy but do miss that feeling of being very attracted.

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      08.29.09, 01:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • np I would give emotional security any day over sex.

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      08.29.09, 02:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • What's with all the have an affair answers? Get a divorce before you go around sleeping with other men while your still married. Geez people, think before you speak. Telling someone to have an affair b/c she said she's not in love makes no sense. Get a divorce first, then you can go do whatever it is you want. I hope if you do divorce him that he finds somebody who won't marry him again b/c of emotional security but b/c she loves him. Sad that woman still use men like this.

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      08.29.09, 02:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I am in similar situation. I was attracted to my dh at the beginning of relationship...was having serious doubts by the time the wedding rolled around b/c I wasn't attracted to him, he was being condescending to me, etc. My therapist (who i paid a whopping $300/45 minutes...) convinced me that I needed to stay in marriage, he offered emotional stability, that it would be harder to find a mate as I got older (was 31 at the time), etc. Now, I am in deep sh**. We have dc, relationship isn't great at all, we have both worked really hard at it but we are just incompatible and want different things in life, i think. I went back to her re: marriage problems and she told me that we did make a big mistake getting married. My fault for listening ...

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      08.30.09, 08:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Wait - you went back to the same therapist??

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        08.30.09, 09:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Yes, I have issues I know...really low self-esteem, don't trust my own judgement, etc. However, after I went back to her when we were having a hard time, I only went back a couple of times and decided that I needed someone else. She did help me overcome a 14 year eating disorder so I had given her credit for that...

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          08.30.09, 11:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • nobody has a perfect life. If you're with a wonderful guy, you're way ahead of the game.

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      08.30.09, 09:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Not necessarily, if she has a high sex drive. I've been in this situation for decades and now wish I'd gotten out. No sex for years does not strengthen a relationship unless both parties feel happy with celibacy. I think many religions include sexual deprivation as legitimate grounds for divorce, and that's saying something.

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        08.30.09, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • For the past few years, I haven't been attracted to dh and having sex was terrible for me. Just recently, I had to stop having sex with him b/c I was beginning to feel violated...I felt that I was allowing someone to intrude on my body where it wasn't wanted. I don't know what to do. How have you managed having sex while not being attracted? Not trying to judge, just curious. My dh is a good guy so I would prefer to be attracted to him and stay married but not sure how I can become attracted again (we do have a lot of baggage which may be what is interfering but I do fear that it is just chemistry). Take care and don't be so hard on yourself...I think that we accept things when we are prepared to deal with them.

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      08.30.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • "I had to stop having sex with him b/c I was beginning to feel violated..." Marriage is a form of contract, and if you really feel that way, you are violating it. Get a divorce.

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        09.04.09, 08:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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