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  • [-]I hate people who don't like to try new or culturally different food. It really tells me a lot about who they are and I lose respect for them.

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    11.20.09, 08:08 AM [ Flag ]
    • Wow how retarded

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      11.20.09, 08:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • So you're telling OP she is rigid in HER thinking by calling her "retarded?" Who is close-minded in the thinking dpt. now? My retarded child is perfectly happy to try new foods. I would not be perfectly happy to meet either of you.

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        11.20.09, 09:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • OK. Because someone might be a wonderfully caring friend who constantly goes out of her way to help other people, and a lovely, intelligent, person who is fun to be around, but you know, if she's a picky eater, it's just appalling and you really should "hate" her and get her out of your life as soon as possible.

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      11.20.09, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • this really tells me a lot about who you are and i have no respect for you! signed, an adventurous but non-judgmental eater

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      11.20.09, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • some people have stomach issues.

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      11.20.09, 08:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA. i have an awful stomach issues and have to be very careful with certain spicy, ethnic foods, especially when dining out and i generally avoid trying anything new when in public. hopefully no one is jumping to this unfair conclusion about me.

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        11.20.09, 03:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • If you re-wrote your post to be something like: "I often discover that I don't appreciate people who are always unwilling to try new foods," then I might agree with you. But I don't always feel like trying something new- sometimes I want something tried and true.

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      11.20.09, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Fine, might sound judgemental but I'm coming from a point of view of someone who is not American and when I offer food from my country of origin, I find that there are two different responses. Those who eagerly try and the ones who make a face and decline (or reluctantly take a teeny tiny bit). I've seen this enough all my life and have made my own very unscientific conclusion about these types of people and I'm usually right in my own very personal judgement.

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      11.20.09, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • curious--what culture food? i'm super open, and trying new food from different cultures is wonderful. i can't think of a single cuisine i haven't tried!

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        11.20.09, 08:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • You are correct that people who make a face or are reluctant are likely not especially adventurous people in general and may not rush into trying new things. If that's what you value, great. To me, that's way down the list -- after being a very kind and considerate person and someone with whom I'm able to have an intelligent conversation and who is generally happy and fun to be around.

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        11.20.09, 08:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Now I would agree with you. I really enjoy when someone is adventurous or open-minded to things outside their comfort zone, and I find those who aren't to be dull, and often sheltered, but that's just my preference in friends.

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        11.20.09, 08:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I don't like to travel internationally or dine at nice restaurants with these people, and maybe don't do teh fancy dinenr parties with them as a guest, but hate is kind of a strong word-

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      11.20.09, 08:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP here: yes, hate was a strong word. I just had an experience from the night before that had me a bit incensed and confirming strongly what I feel about people unwilling to try new food. I find this person incredibly boring and closed minded to begin with so no loss I guess...

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        11.20.09, 08:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I'm trying to figure out who taught my 3 yo the word hate.

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      11.20.09, 08:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I want you to try cow's eyes, whale tongue, or some other delicacies from other parts of the world.

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      11.20.09, 08:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • my brother is like this. he thinks panda express is "too fancy" and only eats kfc, burger king, and mcdonalds. i've never seen him eat a fruit. he's not fat at all either, he's 6 ft and 140 lbs. he always orders plain cheese pizza, plain vanilla ice cream, etc. i get so bored just looking at it!! it matches with his personality too, he's a very loyal friend, nice guy, but doesn't like to travel, meet new people. He has all the same friends since childhood and does the exact same thing everyday. I have met a few people like this, and the funny thing is whenever i ask "is your fave ice cream vanilla" they are so shocked, like i am a clairvoyant or something. Anyway, I would go nuts if my spouse was 'boring' like this, seriously i can't stand...

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      11.20.09, 09:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I hate people who hate.

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      11.20.09, 09:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Well first of all hate is a strong word. Why would you dislike someone because they don't want to try new food, seems odd. Since you are so ethnically superior then go to Japan and try their squid ice cream. That's right, they have it and the people LOVE it.

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      11.20.09, 09:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Los Angeles Moms: We are thinking about moving to LA (Silverlake, Los Feliz area). If I send my DC to LAUSD k-5 elementary school (like Ivanhoe), what are my options afterwards? A lot of private middle/high school options seem to start 7-12. trying for LAUSD magnet and then apply to private for 9-12?

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    11.13.09, 10:53 AM [ Flag ]
    • Sorry, it post too soon. What do most people do? Try for magnet then apply for privates for 9-12?

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      11.13.09, 10:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I'm in LA and my DD is in K at a private school. People do apply to the k-6 schools for 6th grade and sometimes there are openings because people move away. A lot of people apply for 4th grade because, as I understand it, the public schools change a lot at 4th grade (classes getting bigger, I think).

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        11.19.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I ran out of space...if you are moving to Los Feliz/Silverlake I would strongly advise you to apply to The Center For Early Education for kindergarten. First of all, it is the only school near that area (those areas are FAR to the East). Most people will tell you that "nobody" gets into the Center and it is very hard to get into but they value diversity and interesting circumstances (so a move from NY to LA might interest them especially if you are choosing Los Feliz---this might be seen as more "interesting" than the typical LA Westside families.) Even if you don't get in for kindergarten they keep you in the "pool" and you can keep meeting with them and expressing your interest in case a spot opens.

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          11.19.09, 11:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • thanks for the reply! I will look into the Center for Early Education. are you on the westside? was the private school admission process crazy for you and your DD? Also, my DD has a mid Aug. birthday. it seems like most LA area private schools have early summer cut off dates vs. LAUSD which is a Dec cut off date. Not sure if i want to hold her back as I have a 2nd DC who is 2 years younger and would rather have them be 2 school years apart as well.

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            11.19.09, 12:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • The cut off dates do tend to be earlier in the summer...some people have DC do a gift year at a public school and then have them repeat K at private (2 children in DD's class did this). The admissions process is insane, much like NY. Very stressful. There are a lot of different types of schools here so it limits your choices. Beware, Progressive here can be VERY progressive. The Center is probably more akin to a NY progressive school but out here it is not as progressive as many. BTW, it isn't that my DD goes to The Center and I'm not trying to sell the school it is just with Los Felis you don't have a lot of options. Oh, I just remembered! Cambell Hall is a school you shoulc look at too. It is very accessable from Los Feliz area. ...

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              11.19.09, 12:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • thank you so much for the insights. good to know about the progressive range... i would lean toward less progressive schools. i have heard about turning point, is that considered very progressive? if we were to move to the westside, i guess the we'd have a lot more options. are you and your DD happy with your choice?

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                11.20.09, 08:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]I married the wrong man. His family is socio economically lower than mine. I thought he was different but I was wrong. Now that we have kids, I don't want my kids to be exposed to their mediocrity. It would be different if they were at least nice people but they're not. Is the old adage still true? Its easier for men to marry down but not for women.

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    11.17.09, 09:14 PM [ Flag ]
    • Did you create this post just to start a flame war, or are you really this awful? If you have such high SES, than I imagine you would be able to spell socioeconomic correctly. Do you suppose that your husband is concerned about your spelling mediocrity rubbing off on your children?

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      11.17.09, 09:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • No. Just feeling sad. I'm from a good family and never thought about these things before. I married my husband because I thought he was special and different and that his family didn't matter but he's turned out to be very different person from who I married. Hasn't worked and is dependent on my family's money. His family is cold and uncaring and their values are so different. I'm sure my husband has bigger concerns than my spelling mediocrity. We have a marriage in crisis.

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        11.17.09, 09:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think if your marriage is in crisis, you should try out counseling. Sometimes it can really make a difference. It might help your DH to hear from a third party that he needs to do something that gives his life purpose. But if you keep bringing up your family's money, either out loud or just by thinking about it, your relationship will have no chance of working. When you got married, your money became his money too. It is totally emasculating for a man to be in that position, and you are going to have to figure out how both of you can live with that imbalance. Emphasizing it is the worst thing you can do.

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          11.17.09, 09:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • So true... but so difficult. Hence my original question: is it easier for men to marry down than v/v. Isn't that the old adage? Men marry down, women marry up. There's some truth and wisdom to that. God, I hate myself for saying this. I thought I was the independent liberated woman but I'm still stuck on crap like this.

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            11.17.09, 10:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I'm from a "good family" too, so I know what that really means. In mine,we weren't raised to rate peple as you have done. Somehow, your seem damaged by your own choices & difficulties and are using your spouse's family as the reason. Blame and excuses are immature and understandable in young kids. In adults, they often signal mediocrity in character.

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          11.18.09, 05:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • There are plenty of rich, mediocre jerks. Want me to list some? What does his family's wealth have to do with your dislike of his family? I would worry more about what your attitudes are doing to your kids.

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      11.17.09, 09:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • His family has money. That's not the question. Its more about class, I guess. I hate the word but I can't think of anything else.

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        11.17.09, 10:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Your In-laws' mediocrity might be a good antidote for your kids to your superiority. It sounds like there might be more to your marital issues than just this. Find a well-heeled, highly credentialed therapist.

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      11.17.09, 09:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • A lot of women want to marry up. Face it, that is a reality. I was never aggressive about this and I thought you were supposed to marry for love. I married young and I sort of gambled on my husband, in a way. Now I'm older and reality is sinking in, and its more difficult to overcome. When I mention socioeconomics, I don't really mean poor/rich but more about core values in life (from simple things like what you eat) I can see how my original post can be a bit skewed but I just felt like venting. We all have horrible thoughts that lie dormant and never surface. Anonymity can decrease your inhibition.

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        11.17.09, 10:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • What about; "A son is a son till he takes him a wife, a daughter is a daughter all of her life.” Maybe you could pull him away from his family... and get him to fit with your fam. That'd be old school.

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      11.17.09, 09:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • otoh your dh could say that he married the wrong woman: a snob! please rethink your values as it would be a shame to have dc feeling this way too and growing up with this attitude.

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      11.17.09, 10:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Yeah, true, but you don't have a husband who hasn't worked for years. I so desperately wish he could prove all this wrong but its been way too long that there are no more excuses or justifications. I don't know what I'm ranting on about anymore...

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        11.17.09, 10:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: i just don't see what that has to do with his background. do you really think that rich guys have a better work ethic? let me introduce you to some of my friends who have NEVER had jobs!

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          11.18.09, 04:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • that is a good question, but my criteria are honesty and heart rather than money and fake civility. did you or he marry "down" given those criteria?

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      11.18.09, 04:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Can't believe you meant for your post to sound the way it did, but manners, culture, sophistication are a function of upbringing not class. Well-read, highly cultured people come from every socio-economic level. IME I've found no lack of extremely wealthy unsophisticated buffoons. You may not share the same background or life experiences and this is what's causing a rift but you aren't presenting yourself in the best light either.

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        11.18.09, 05:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • you need to explain what you don't like about his family. do they say "ain't" a lot and burp and go to mcdonalds every day? what's so offensive exactly?

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      11.18.09, 05:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think your husband married down, actually.

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      11.18.09, 05:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Fake or Bitch, take your pick.

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      11.18.09, 05:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You could say that I married up. My parents were immigrants and didn't speak English, but worked their tails off to provide for our family. We never had expensive vacations,and we rarely went out to dinner, but we had love, stability, a home (which my parents proudly purchased once they could afford it), we went to college (not fancy ones, but we all have our BAs). My dh family was very wealthy, all extremely educated, however, mental illness runs in their family. fil was abusive to mil and kids (not physical but everything else). doctors, attorneys, lawyers.. you name it. Let me tell you, their family is a total miserable mess. dh also suffers from mental illness and, sadly, so is mine now. just sharing, don't know if this makes yo...

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      11.18.09, 05:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • sounds like a carrie bradshaw column

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      11.18.09, 06:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • fake

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      11.18.09, 06:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Let's be kind and refer to the OP's words as "fictional" v. "fake". Perhaps she was inspired by a recent scene from Mad Men during which, in a heated argument, the lead male character called his wife, Betty, a "MAINLINE BRAT".....

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        11.18.09, 07:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Fake, fake, fake

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      11.18.09, 07:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I believe I married the wrong man also. It's not, though, because of mediocrity, but more because he retains this very poor 'look we have money, let's spend it' thinking that makes it very difficult to save. I'm not a great saver by any stretch, which wasn't that important to me until we had ds. Now, I care more and I'm shocked that he doesn't. We rent and to him that is fine, because we already have so much more than he did and will be able to offer son much more then he had. But it's not the level of stability I want to provide.

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      11.18.09, 07:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]How big was your engagement ring? Have you upgraded since?

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    11.14.09, 06:08 PM [ Flag ]
    • 1.2 carats. nope, love it. it's not HUGE, but it's good sized, but I can still wear it everyday and not feel awkward. perfect. DHs colleagues gave him a hard time for getting less than 2, but I am in a profession that would make that... awkward? I wanted to be able to wear it all the time.

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      11.14.09, 06:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • just under 3 and no. wear my eternity bands more often. so i guess i downsized.

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      11.14.09, 06:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • about a little over 4

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      11.14.09, 06:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Mine is 0.75ct but perfect. Would never upgrade it. When dh asked if I wanted an eternity ring I decided to have a vacation instead

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      11.14.09, 06:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Mine fell out of its setting and we can't find the envelope we put it in (it was in a secret drawer in a piece of furniture dh emptied before we moved it to our other home). 1.13 carats. Feel sad it seems to be gone:(

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      11.14.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 1.7 It doesn't reflect our lifestyle or our bank account (which are far less impressive!). Still, I love it--gorgeous cushion cut.

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      11.14.09, 06:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 1.5 with .8 surrounding it - would never trade it in. I love it and love what it represents. Sadly, since having db I hardly ever wear it.

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      11.14.09, 06:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Mine was .6ct center plus .5ct side stones. I did initially want a bigger center but would never tell him of course and the ring itself is beautiful. However two weeks ago he asked for it back so he can "do something to it" so I'm guessing he's in the process of upgrading it since I'm not sure what else he'd be doing with it.

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      11.14.09, 06:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • .5 carats...nope, he proposed to me with this one; I love it.

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      11.14.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 0 - I only wear a plain platinum wedding band, never received an engagement ring.

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      11.14.09, 07:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 1 carat, and now it's a necklace. I now have a 3.5 carat ring.

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      11.14.09, 07:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • how long were you married before upgrade? did dh's means change?

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        11.14.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Married 25 years when I upgraded. My dh has worked hard and continues to do better each each year. My taste changed and styles changed, and I wanted a different shaped stone. I wouldn't trade in my first stone. I wear it as a necklace and get tons of compliments on it.

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          11.14.09, 07:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Upgrading is tacky

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      11.14.09, 07:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • yeah, I'm trying to figure out why you'd upgrade an engagement ring...is sentiment dead?

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        11.14.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ditto - it's a token of love, not an old car!

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        11.14.09, 07:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Oh don't be jealous.

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        11.14.09, 07:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I think pretty much this would be the definition of tacky.

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        11.14.09, 07:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ittta! "upgrade"? please.

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        11.14.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ita - goes along wih "upgrading" dh, or your marriage. just ick.

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        11.14.09, 07:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I absolutely agree. the concept of upgrading a ring that has such symbolism is wretched. there's nothing wrong with getting a new piece of jewelry to wear, but to replace your engagement ring is ridiculous. i think it insults the meaning of the ring.

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          11.14.09, 08:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • so what if the new piece of jewelry happens to be a 3 carat diamond ring?

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            11.14.09, 08:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • what happens if you lost your ring? Do you mean to say that if I lost my engagement ring and replacement will have no meaning?

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            11.14.09, 08:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I disagree. Lots of couples start off without money or kids, and hope that, together, they will prosper financially and that their family will grow. Ring is a symbol of that commitment. In that sense, it never gets old. But its also a piece of jewelry, and, while you were proud of your new Volkswagen when you got it, now you want to drive a BMer. And DH is proud to be able to buy the BMer. What's the virtue of wearing the Volkswagen? To show that you were once not wealthy?

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        11.14.09, 08:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • No virtue in that...unless maybe he proposed to you with the car? And then you should at least wear it around your neck as a necklace when you upgrade...or tow it behind the BMer, or whatever.

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          11.14.09, 08:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • you clearly were fortunate enough to start out with some nice bling. some of us are not so lucky.

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        11.14.09, 08:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I agree. I loved my half carat ring ring bc of what it symbolized, but at the time we were both students and damn near broke. Now 7 years later we make $500k a year and I don't see why it's so tacky to want a ring bigger than 1 carat.

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          11.14.09, 08:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ITA. As far as sentiment, the ring has only as much meaning as you allow to it.

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            11.14.09, 08:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • me too, ita. I think it's nice especially when a couple is taking the time to celebrate their relationship again. I don't see anything wrong with it.

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              11.15.09, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • For some people it has a lot of meaning - about how far you have come together. My aunt has what some would call a speck of diamond dust for her engagement ring. My uncle was enlisted in the Marines when he proposed. Almost 50 years later, they are still happily married, retired multi-millionaires (he ran one of the big management consulting firms for years), and she still wears that tiny engagement ring. She has a mountain of other jewelry he's given her over the years, but she wouldn't trade that engagement ring for all of it, because it reminds them of what they had when they started out - each other and not much more.

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              11.15.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 3ct center, 1ct on each side

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      11.14.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 2 carat center, 3 carats total, an old family piece, never had it resized for my finger because it could mess with the prong tightness (lots of little rocks on this thing). currently needs to go back to the shop for the second time, stone fell out again when ring got mishapened (lifting up stroller, first time was from lumber work). the jeweller has already scolded me that "these rings don't last forever, you have to take care of it", i was like huh?, that's what the whole de beer's ad campaign is all about! anyways, this ring wasn't meant for a woman who has to do her own home improvement and lift strollers up and down subways.

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      11.14.09, 07:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Am proud to say that I have no clue how big my engagement ring diamond is. One carat? Certainly not more. Like some other posters here, just wear wedding band now.

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      11.14.09, 08:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 1ct. DH proposed while we were both in school and the ring is beautiful, but for the first 5 years I secretly wished it was bigger. All of my friends that were engaged after school ended up with 2.5-4ct rocks and I was jealous. An interesting thing happened after our DD was born--I realized that I didn't need the ring as a status symbol. Not to be cheesy, but having a happy and healthy family completely took precedent and I just don't care about how big my ring is.

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      11.14.09, 08:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Several older women commented to me early on that "I could always upgrade later, when we were more established" or whatever. Made me NEVER want to trade my ring in for a bigger one. It wasn't about the size of the diamond. That it was for them, after so many years of marriage, made me sad for them.

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        11.14.09, 08:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ITA, it just seems weird to me that a the size continues to matter to some people, though I know in certain circles its simly expected that a ring will be big.

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          11.14.09, 08:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • middle easterners have the biggest rocks, and the most uninteresting settings. it's all simply about size, not aesthetics.

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            11.14.09, 08:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I think the size means different things to different people. For a while I felt like a 2ct was the minimum requirement and that DH should have sprung for something bigger, but in retrospect, the extra 20k that he chose not to spend went to things that we much more meaningful to us (down payment and a trip to Asia). Don't get me wrong, I think diamonds are beautiful but I just don't think it defines me.

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            11.14.09, 08:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • see, mine is 1ct, and i know that dh didn't know anything about 2ct being some insane nyc minimum, and only after we were engaged did he start to notice larger rings on his df's wives fingers and make comments. so i feel like he would have bought a larger one had he thought about it!

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              11.14.09, 09:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I actually told DH that I didn't want anything over a carat because it wasn't that important. It wasn't until we moved to NYC that either of us felt that 1ct was on the low end.

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                11.14.09, 09:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • To be candid I find the quest for a big engagement ring pathetic. I'd be embarrassed to be part of that. But I am clearly in the minority, so everyone is free to enjoy it.

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      11.14.09, 09:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • sometimes i think it is fun to have my original 1 carat ring, nobody would suspect we have major $$$$ in the bank. other times, i think it would be fun to sport a huge rock. maybe one day i'll get that huge rock, and alternate, depending on my mood!

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      11.14.09, 09:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Love my ring but don't wear it, wear a trinity band on a daily basis.

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      11.15.09, 08:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • dh me a 1.2 carat at the time and it is really beautiful still wear it. Around 5 years later gave me an amazing 3 carat colored diamond as a gift. I wear still wear both (at different times of course!) I am not much of a jewelry person but a truely love both rings and what each represents.

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      11.15.09, 09:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 2.2, Love it, would never "upgrade.," that is just totally tacky. if one day DH can afford to buy me more expensive diamonds (not that this one was cheap, by any standard!), the great, Ill have gorgeous necklace, or 3ct diamond earrings. my ring is what he gave me when he proposed and Ill never even change the setting! its sentimental and perfect. (evenif our marriage is not always perfect. but different vent for different day. oh well.)

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      11.15.09, 10:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Mine is a sapphire with diamonds, which is what I always wanted. Estate, so much cheaper. Sapphire is 8 carats but looks much smaller because it is deep. My problem is that the sapphire chipped (doing home repair) and I want to have the stone re-cut and the ring re-set but I just can't bear to touch it!!!!!

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        11.15.09, 10:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Wow, do people still talk about this stuff after age 20 or 21?

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      11.15.09, 11:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • little over a carat, nope and don't plan to

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      11.15.09, 04:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • ~2 ct. I haven't "upgraded" but plan to . I think it is the opposite of tacky. It's saying that I want to re-commit to this marriage and we can afford a more extravagant symbol of that.

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      11.15.09, 06:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Also, my mother has "upgraded" three times and after 43 years, my parents are without question, the happiest (and least tacky) people I know.

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        11.15.09, 06:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Is it better to fly business class or buy two seats in economy when flying with an infant? Will be flying with my 2 month old for first time and don't know wether to buy a business class ticket or 2 seats in coach. Which is better? I'm jut thinking that in business there will not be a place to put her car seat. Thanks

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    11.10.09, 07:31 PM [ Flag ]
    • you answered it yourself. 2 tix in coach. use the carseat.

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      11.10.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You'd have to check the carseat if you buy one business class seat.

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      11.10.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • absolutley not true. if you bought one coach seat you might have to (although sometimes they are nice. usually not though). with a business seat you can usually bring not only your car seat on board, but a compact stroller too! (like if you have a graco snap n go or bugaboo chassis you can throw either in the closet!)

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        11.11.09, 04:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • you can check it as your boarding, along with the stroller base attachment, so not a big deal. that said, if it is just you and the infant, I'd probably opt for two seats. If your spouse was with you, I'd say you only need two seats (and coach would be fine)-

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        11.11.09, 07:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i'm always thinking of that kid who survived a plane crash b/c he or she was in the carseat. everyone else died. of course, it was a commuter plane, but still, give your kid a chance of surviving the crash is my thought.

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      11.10.09, 07:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • How long is the flight? Why not two business class seats. It will make the trip even better.

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      11.10.09, 07:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • against other's advice... i say go for the business seat. at that age they will want to be held all the time. wear them in an ergo/bjorn/sling except during takeoff/landing when you should nurse or give a pacifier or bottle and flight attendants will want you to hold them. car seats are free luggage and come off first, especially if it's a snap n go, then it's a stroller/car seat to help you get through the airport

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      11.10.09, 07:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np ITA. *If* the baby isn't the fussy type. You'd get a lot of dirty looks and nasty comments if your db cried.

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        11.10.09, 08:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • nnp: ITA also. always did lapbaby as long as i could get away with it. the business class seat totally worth it and my dc all wanted to be held all the time anyway.

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        11.10.09, 09:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ditto and this is coming from someone who did 2 cross country flights with a 2 and 4mo.

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        11.11.09, 06:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Get two seats. Are you seriously just "thinking" that there wouldn't be a free spot in business class for the car seat? Do you think business class comes with extra seats?

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      11.10.09, 08:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • no i realize that there would definately NOT be an extra seat in biz class, that's why i was asking...

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        11.11.09, 12:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I asked my ped this question and she was adament about getting 2 seats. There have been cases when sudden turbulence has caused small children to become projectiles. My experience is that children are much happier andmore comfortable in their own carseat and more likely to fall asleep.

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      11.10.09, 08:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I've done both. You don't have to check the car seat. I would let db sleep on the floor in the car seat. Didn't help in terms of safety but db was comfy and I had tons of space. And a quieter bathroom to change baby etc. With two seats, you can use the car seat for real, but when db is awake, it's squishy. In any case, these days I'd do single coach ticket. You almost always get two seats.

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      11.10.09, 08:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • not true. depends on x of day and route, and of course, season of travel. id do business seat over coach. just for less bathroom lines, nicer service, and more space. infant doesnt needthat much space, and you can put hte car seat on teh floor and still be very comfy.

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        11.11.09, 04:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • wow people are so off here. 100k+ miles/yr flyer here. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHECK THE CARSEAT IF YOU BUY ONE BUSINESS CLASS SEAT. you can put it in teh closet until takeoff and then very comfortably put it by your feet for the remander of hte flight. i would go with one business seat over 2 coach seats hands down for an infant. for a toddler who needs space and wants to color and move, id say 2 coach seats. but business for infant hands down.

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      11.11.09, 04:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • NP. Would the other members of business class mind if your baby freaked out? I've always been advised not to do this because business class is pretty child unfriendly...

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        11.11.09, 04:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • TWO SEATS. Think about it. Baby will most likely not stay asleep for long in your arms, and will be squirmy when awake. You can't go to the bathroom, have a sip of water. If it was a 2 hour flight ok. But for 5+ hours you will both be more comfortable, and safer in two. Baby should fall fast asleep at least for a large chunk of flight due to altitude, humming, motion, leaving you free to actually relax for a few minutes.

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          11.11.09, 04:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • and if you are in coach, seats 13D and F, and the bathroom is behind 34, are you really gonna leave your 2 month old strapped in while you make your way to the back? time walking: 30 seconds. time in line (potentially) 3 minutes. time in bathroom, 1 min. total time away 5 minutes. I wouldnt! but if I were in business, and seated in 2D, I would run to the bathroom by the cockpit. total time away - to get there, <10 seconds. time inside, 1 minute. time to return, <10 seconds. major difference.

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            11.11.09, 06:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • you haev the flight attendant watch the baby,a nd you go when there is no line- seriosuly you won't be away for more than like 3 minutes- if you are in 13 you would go up to a bathroom, not back-

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              11.11.09, 07:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • not in my experience. first class intl is child unfriendly (sometimes, if they are toddlers and run around). business class domestic is just fine. if someone has a problem with a crying baby, they need to charter a private plane. crying 2 month olds are not loud, and trust me (since like I said, I fly alot), are far less annoying than obese seatmates whose asses spill over into your seat or who hog the armrest, smelly people, or loud obnoxious half drunk passengers.

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          11.11.09, 06:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I went with dh when dd was 0 10 mo - we bought 2 business seats and got a bassinet both ways for the baby. Worked out great

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      11.11.09, 05:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Your baby is only 2 months. All mine did was nurse, sleep & gaze sweetly into my eyes. When they cried it was because they wanted to eat, sleep or be changed. The bjorn or other carrier is the BEST for flying at that age. I flew regularly LA/NY & always used the bjorn up until 10 months, especially when flying without dh. I always had a carseat on the other end (rental or relatives). Don't lug a car seat in cabin & no need for extra seat. Do go biz class though

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      11.11.09, 06:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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