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  • [-]Holiday card ? - Currently expecting #2 and want a pic of whole family (DS, DH, me w/belly) or DS and belly only. Is this tacky? Is it weird to put the baby's name in the sig line as well with & "name" expected x/2010? I am thinking some of the recipients may not know and it would be cute. Is it annoying? Bad karma?

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    11.19.09, 11:03 AM [ Flag ]
    • I think it's cute. Annoying was when we got one from my dh's friend that was a sonogram pic (not a 3d one either) with a superimposed santa hat. THAT felt creepy and wierd.

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      11.19.09, 11:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • If it were me I'd opt for keeping it simple. Family photo: the blank family, the three of your names and maybe a cute reference like (john, mary, tommy and...). Wouldn't put real name - superstitious.

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      11.19.09, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I really like this approach. Or if you have a 'work in progress' name, you could use that. That's what we called ds until he was born (even though we knew he was a boy and had a name. just felt scary using that before he was here, safe and sound)

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        11.19.09, 11:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think it's too cutesy and not my style to put a belly pic. I think the baby expected is okay if you aren't superstitious, but not a pic of your stomach alone.

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      11.19.09, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I agree. Don't put a pic of a disembodied belly and your DS on the card. Really werid in my opinion. Either do whole family or DS only

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        11.19.09, 11:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think ds and your belly would be cute.

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      11.19.09, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • That would bother me...personally, I wouldn't do it, but you called it, I'm superstitious. I never told anyone the name we picked out. I didn't buy anything for the house ahead of time. I didn't tell people i was pregnant until 20 weeks. So I'd have a hard time putting a photo and signing a card before it was a real human outside of my body.

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      11.19.09, 11:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Family pics are great! Don't refer to unborn baby by name- unlucky vibe.

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      11.19.09, 11:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • definitely bad karma. god forbid anything would happen in that timespan. unlikely but still, i wouldn't do it.

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      11.19.09, 11:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • either one of the whole family or just ds. NOT DS AND BELLY. totally ridiculous imo.

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      11.19.09, 11:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • OP: I knew there would be two camps on this. The name is public knowledge already among friends and family, as it was with DS. Will probably leave it off based on this feedback. Maybe whole family, but with DS leaning on or touching belly...it is so cute how much he already interacts with her. We'll take tons of pics and just see what works out. My gut feeling that it was weird to some, though not to me, seems to have been correct. Thanks!

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      11.19.09, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I find that odd. We have 2 dcs and I'm expecting a third. Wouldn't even occur to me to reference #3 in this year's card, and we're just going with a pic of dcs 1 and 2. You can't wait until 2010?

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      11.19.09, 12:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ditto that

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        11.19.09, 12:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: I don't know, we usually send family photo, and with me looking a lot rounder than usually it seemed odd not to mention it. I guess I could just do the normal family pic and sign "DH, me and soon-to-be big brother DS" I hope nobody here is on my list because you will know it was me then! LOL.

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        11.19.09, 12:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I would do a picture of the whole family and sign it with 'the whatever family' - I hate to say this, but what if something ever happened and then you would have that card of your belly and ds to look at? Go for the full, happy, growing family. You could maybe say something like 'Happy holidays from our growing family' if you really want to include your pregnancy.

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      11.19.09, 12:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I think the opposite. My SIL lost a baby during labor (full term, medical mistakes) and she loves any memento of that time. I also have a lot of pictures of her pregnancy and that baby at the hospital as well. I figure, if the baby ends up having a short or no life outside the womb, celebrate the life he/she did have and the happiness that came with it while expecting.

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        11.19.09, 12:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I would be in favor of either just ds or everyone, maybe posed in a way that your belly shows -- ds touching it would be cute.

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      11.19.09, 12:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Last year SIL had her pregnancy picture as her christmas card. There was no way I was putting her big swollen naked belly up on my fridge, it went straight into the trash. I think its fine if you do a family one where you can see your belly as well, but please wear clothes.

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      11.19.09, 01:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: It was always my intention to be fully clothed. I don't even want to look at this belly naked, why should anyone else have to!

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        11.19.09, 01:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Does anyone else's child NOT have playdates? I woh f/t and have 2 dcs. weekends tend to be family time and if we do playdates it's with friends that dh and i want to catch up with. My younger dc who is in preschool is begging for playdates which is just hard - have an after school babysitter but also older dc would have to tag along...and I don't know when else to fit this in but i feel guilty. Someone tell me I am not the only one.

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    11.19.09, 09:45 AM [ Flag ]
    • I don't but I have twins. I feel guilty about it but I don't think it really matters.

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      11.19.09, 09:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Can older DC do drop-off playdates while sitter takes younger DC to his/hers?

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      11.19.09, 09:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • time to do drop off playdates

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      11.19.09, 09:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • maybe you should put the pre-schooler in an all-day program like CADS.

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      11.19.09, 09:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • believe me if there was an all day program available i would - could stay longer at preschool but costs $ and difficult with schedule of other dc. older dc doesn't really do play dates either...see - i feel like i am raising two socially inept kids.

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        11.19.09, 09:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • but that's even worse! school is not a playdate.

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        11.19.09, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think play dates are important for developing more intimate relationships and a chance to socialize one-on-one.

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      11.19.09, 09:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I don't think you have anything to worry about. They get lots of socialization at school. I was in a similar situation as you and my kids who are now a bit older are social and form great friendships.

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      11.19.09, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • this is sort of like saying adults get plenty of socialization at work.

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        11.19.09, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • yeah if you got to spend most of the day playing, painting and clownging around with your co-workers

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          11.19.09, 10:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • so dumb. all of my friends growing up (that i chose, i was forced to play with my mom's friend's kids) were from school.

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          11.19.09, 10:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ^and by the way, I've also formed great friendships at work. Still fiends from old co-workers at my first job out ofcollege over 10 years ago.

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            11.19.09, 10:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • you seem to be missing the point. you form friendships at school and work but you see/saw those friends outside of those contexts.

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              11.19.09, 11:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Started doing drop off playdates when dcs were 4. I work FT but have an au pair who shuttled the kids. I don't think kids will suffer if they don't have them but it doesn't hurt either.

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      11.19.09, 10:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • when I was a kid i just played with my brothers. Now have an only child now and i thought that daycare (before she was in school), then school and now that she is older, after school activities she had plenty of social interaction. i guess you need to do playdates if you dont get out of the house much. certainly play & solcial interaction is important; glad i never had to run my schedule around setting up play appointments though.

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      11.19.09, 10:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • not to make too big a deal out of this, but an arranged playtime with a special friend is different from "social interaction" with random dcs you meet out and about or in the context of some other activity, like afterschool. in this day and age, setting up play appointments is sort of part of the deal of being a parent.

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        11.19.09, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • agree. but i think it can get out of hand when a child's every day is scheduled with playdates and not just "play". not to flame, but i think a lot of playdates are sought in an effort for the mother to gain access to certain social circles, not necessarily who the child would choose for their date. My point is that too much importance can be placed on the playdate. It can seem like there is a competition for certain friendships.

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          11.19.09, 11:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I don't do playdates because I think it is more important for my children to bond with each other than any other children. I have a 7yo boy and 5yo girl. They play with others randomly at the playground but at home, it has been lovely watching their play develop from bickering to setting up a store to inventing games and building forts in the living room. They both beg for playdates, they get them at birthday parties and a few times a month. School and school events give them more time with peers. They are both very social and leaders in their classes. I've forced them to deal effectively with difficult differences and it shows in their interactions with friends of all ages. I value the relationship my kids have with each other above f...

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          11.19.09, 11:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • But don't you think seeing little friends is important as well, but in a different way? I know a lot of families who feel as you do and it just seems like something is missing from the kids' lives...even if they do get along well. It kind of is a normal thing to have non family playmates, isn't it? I would see it as enriching the sibling relationship, to have other personalities and experiences. I know I need to interact with a variety of different people.

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            11.19.09, 12:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • isn't younger dc out of preschool before older dc is out of school? or could nanny arrange dropoff playdates for older dc and take younger one on playdates herself? make this the nanny's problem. also, i think it's a little selfish of you to make your weekend socializing all about you and dh.

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      11.19.09, 10:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Nanny should be making play dates.

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        11.19.09, 10:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Can older dc do an afterschool activity or program one or two days a week? This would replace "playdates" because if itwhile he could be doing something he enjoys

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          11.19.09, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ^^ because if he likes it he'll be socializing

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            11.19.09, 10:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • again, not the same. "socializing" and hanging out with a bff and doing things of your choosing, not a structured activity led by an adult, are two different things.

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              11.19.09, 11:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • while i don't think that playdates are the end all be all, i also think that it is a legitimate request from your dc. clearly he or she really wants to spend some more time with preschool friends. I think that once a week your sitter can handle a playdate. Most preschool kids either have a babysitter or a SAHM who can bring the kid to your house and your older dc can either go home with a friend sometimes or bring a friend over sometimes. I can't udnerstand why this is so hard.

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      11.19.09, 10:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I was you last year--while play dates aren't essential, when your kid starts asking for them, they are socially important. Why not just host them all? Invite other sitters and moms to your place--people are used to doing that when there's a younger sib at home.

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      11.19.09, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i am in similar situation. Have found it works well with other siblings (eg. sets of kids the same age). Also, many people in NY have babysitters, so email moms and ask if your babysitter can arrange a playdate with theirs. Host first, then most will not mind your other dc tagging along if your babysitter has them under control. Or, try to sign older DC up for a drop off program and do playdates with the younger one around then.

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      11.19.09, 10:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I don't understand the problem. I have a preschooler and an elementary school aged child. I WOH f/t and have a baby sitter with the kids in the afternoon. They both have plenty of play dates. My older child's play dates are drop off, so she goes home with a friend or the friend comes home with her and our baby sitter. With the younger child, the baby sitters both stay. If it doesn't work out that older child is at someone else's house when younger child has a play date, older child comes or they all play at our apartment. Both of my kids have always played with one another's friends.

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      11.19.09, 11:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • MY Step DD who is 8 doesn't have playdates. Her mother works and she goes into after care after school. I feel it has really hurt her socially. She has no close friends, does not get invited to parties etc...

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      11.19.09, 11:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • why>? are there no kids in the after care?

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        11.19.09, 12:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • i've worked since dd was a baby, she's always attended afterschool programs and has tons of friends and a great social life. I dont really understand your point. Maybe she is just shy or the kids dont like her...?

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        11.19.09, 01:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i good nanny should set up these playdates for you--i think more than needing it, preschoolers like having playdates. or you could always arrange them yourself and then send your sitter or host them at your house. i dont think being a wohm is a good excuse and most of these responses sound self righteous. are playdates critical, no, but kids enjoy them and it's good for them.

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      11.19.09, 11:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i think you've got to do the playdates. i work f/t too (and so does dh), so i understand where you are coming from. we just try to make playdates as easy as possible, and usually do them with other woh parents (most of the parents i know work full time). we'll take turns dropping off for a weekend afternoon, take another kid along to the zoo or museum, whatever. also, do you live in an apartment? if there are kids in your building that you could help dc connect with it is SO much easier. our ds plays with other kids from the building everyday.

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      11.19.09, 11:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My DC rarely have playdates. DH is a SAHD, which makes the whole thing a little difficult. (I wonder how many of the ladies going on above about how essential playdates are would actually schedule one with their DC's BFF if he/she had a SAHD.) I'm not all that concerned about it. They play a lot with each other (they're less than 2 years apart), have cousins close in age that they play with one-on-one, play with friends on the playground after school and a lot of stuff like that.

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      11.19.09, 11:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I view playdates as part of life - I like opening up my home to friends and I expect DCs do as well. You can manage it if you work, just a different schedule. Friends are part of life especially for children. I think it is important to learn how to be a good host and to deal with different people outside the family.

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      11.19.09, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I was you last year, and now I accept invitations and then reciprocate, but I don't seek them out. I have to say it hasn't been as hard as I thought it would be to get into the rotation and reciprocate, I leave work a little early or work from home that day and finish early, then pick them both up and take them somewhere or bring them home. I do this about once a month and it is manageable, and I do see that ds is learning something from it, how to be a good host, have a friend one on one, do what someone else wants to do, offer a snack, etc. He is in aftercare and that is very social too, the kids there have lots of friends- it is a different kind of socializing though.

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      11.20.09, 07:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Do what's right for you family but playdates one-on-one are different then just being at school and are important for social development and conflict resolution. Of course if they have a sibling and parents they are probably getting that at home on the weekends anyway! But I'd try to get one in every now and then.

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      11.20.09, 07:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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