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  • [-]DIVORCE: Just read a post that said that divorced women are threats to other women AND that divorced women are pitied by their female friends. Wanted to take a poll, I have two divorced friends and I don't feel either way. Do you divorced friends? Do you pity or feel threatened by them?

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    11.20.09, 12:56 PM [ Flag ]
    • this is absurd. i was a divorcee and i am sure the answer to both were no.

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      11.20.09, 12:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • divorced women are single and therefore as much a threat as a never married woman. maybe more if the divorcee really wants to be a married woman. and if its assumed or known that she had an affair while married that would be seen as a threat. pity is a strong word but don't you feel a little bad for any friends who don't have what you have and would like to?

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      11.20.09, 01:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Why is any woman a threat to you and your marriage if it is so wonderful that you pity people who don't have it?

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        11.20.09, 01:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • no woman is a threat to me. I simply stated that they are as much of a threat as single women. For married women who view singles as a threat they'd also view divorcees as a threat.

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          11.20.09, 01:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ^^ I also don't pity unmarried people. I was just trying to find reasons why OP's stats could be true.

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            11.20.09, 01:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • no one has everything, so while you can feel bad for someone that his/her marriage didn't work out (which is a sad thing) it's very paternalistic to think that you are being envied

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        11.20.09, 01:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • what if you have a friend who has said "I would like to have a husband and a family like yours someday". I don't think she envies me, I do feel a bit sad that she hasn't gotten what she says she wants.

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          11.20.09, 01:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I have said that to friends of mine who envy me for being single, when actually I don't want their lives at all but just to make them feel better. I think everyone does this. Friends tell me they envy me when I feel low that day, it is what friends do. I like to think we are all choosing lives that improve the past whatever that was.

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            11.20.09, 01:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • of course, you want your friend to be happy...but pitying her would be different...probably, the only people i'd pity would be people stuck in a terrible marriage...being single certainly isn't pathetic

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            11.20.09, 01:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • wouldn't it be nice if women stopped viewing other women as "threats" to anything? it's so pathetic and useless.

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      11.20.09, 01:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I really can't consider anyone a threat because they are divorced that seems ridiculous to me. I will admit to feeling something, not pity, but something for divorced women with children. Not pity but just .... a wonder why they didn't keep it together. I am sure people might like to flame away for that but that is how I feel.

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      11.20.09, 01:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ... I should say I feel the same for those divorced men -not just the ladies!

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        11.20.09, 01:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Well people are different and their situations are different. I am divorced and decided to leave because of things that you might be able to look beyond. Or maybe what I dealt with was far more insidious than you could ever imagine having to deal with.

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        11.20.09, 01:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I totally hear you. I am sure everyone has their good reasons that are right for them and their family. I guess it just makes me think about my relationship and my family?

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          11.20.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • if a friend of mine divorced because she was dealing with something far more insidious that I could ever imagine, I would have sympathy for her. Not because she got divorced but for having to go through the pain to get there. I realize people can be better because of overcoming the hardship but getting there can be hard.

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          11.20.09, 01:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • It depends on the friend. I do worry about one of my friends who recently divorced. She is desperately unhappy, really wanted kids, and divorced her husband because she didn't feel fulfilled (no counseling attempts). Now she is more lonely than ever! But for other friends, it was the right choice and they feel better. I don't pity or feel threatened for people who are divorced. I guess I feel sympathetic for single moms (divorced or not) because I feel like they have the hardest job in the world! Props to them.

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      11.20.09, 01:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I feel sorry for them (regardless of whether they are male or female). Divorce is never simple and 'over' when you have kids.

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      11.20.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]If there's the dc of a celeb/"bold-named" in your dc's class is it completely 'normal'-- do they interact w/class, go to school functions. Do they befriend any of the other parents? Are your dc friends? BTW -I'm a public school parent, just curious.

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    11.19.09, 01:05 PM [ Flag ]
    • My dd is good friend's with Pilot Inspektor, Apple, and Kal-el.

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      11.19.09, 01:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Good question, but I believe most people on here will feel that they are to "cool" to answer question.

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      11.19.09, 01:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • You're right. One mother in pre-k w/older dc at dalton was so obvious in her name-dropping it was humorous. But that was her personality.

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        11.19.09, 01:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I grew up in WashDC. Parents of my friends were household-name politicians and journalists. (Nothing like talking to BF's dad when his face is on the TV in the background.) Just act normal and talk about normal things. But don't pretend you don't know who they are.

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      11.19.09, 01:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • me too! i'm an ncs alum, what about you?

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        11.19.09, 01:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • NCS waaay back. Then Exeter.

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          11.19.09, 01:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Hey! Sidwell alum here. Big names were everywhere. But unlike NYC, the big names in DC actually WERE important. Not just rich or famous.

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          11.19.09, 07:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • politicians are NOT important. they are high-level bureaucrats. they are not glamorous. and they are ugly. would much rather see movie stars at curriculum night than some loser congressman.

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            11.20.09, 06:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Let me assure you, top pols are every bit as exciting as movie stars. And second-tier pols as boring as your average TV actor.

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              11.20.09, 06:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • lolllllllllllll. whatever. keep telling yourself that. top pol like ????

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                11.20.09, 06:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I met Clinton and he was riveting. So him for instance.

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                  11.20.09, 07:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Obama. Ted K. (r.i.p.) Bill & Hillary. My parents knew Robert Kennedy very well -- mom said if he'd asked, she would have slept with him. And she never said that about Warren Beatty who is also their friend.

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                  11.20.09, 07:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • i am sorry, but out of the 5 you mentioned, 2 are basically historical figures! and no one in nyc, on this board or otherwise, gossips about patterson or schumer. no one cares, when there are so many more interesting people to notice.

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                    11.20.09, 07:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I'm the Sidwell poster and I wasn't referring only to politicians, in fact, didn't think of them in that post. Bob Woodward, Marion Wright Edelman, Mike Wallace, etc. But of course, meeting Bill and Hillary at the annual auction was cool too.

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              11.20.09, 07:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • omg. i just fell asleep thinking about those BIG NAMES!!

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                11.20.09, 07:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • OMP, ITA. They're totally not exciting like Spencer and Heidi or the Kardasians.

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                  11.20.09, 07:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • huh? this is NYC, not the OC. and why are you listing people who are all over 60 years old? doesn't exactly make DC sound like a young and vibrant city.

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                    11.20.09, 07:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • OR: Many more important people in DC than NYC...I never said DC was a more vibrant city!

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                      11.20.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • People over 60 can't be important. Who are the important people in NYC to whom you're referring? All the names I see being posted on this thread are actors. You can't honestly believe they're important?

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                      11.20.09, 07:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • Just do an UB poll, who would you be more excited to have as a fellow class parent, bono & seinfeld or the HUD secretary. see who wins. lol again.

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                        11.20.09, 08:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Are you guys still on? I'm in DC now and applying to Pre-K and need to discuss GDS and Beauvoir. Would love to chat if you're around...

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        11.20.09, 06:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • there was a celebrity dad we knew. his wife was really nice and did all pick-up/drop-off. he was usually on tour, but when he was around he was not very nice. our kids were friends, but even at playdates, if he was around he was really cold and aloof. i think it had more to do with being a jerk than being a celebrity, though! didn't volunteer to fix/build things like many of the other dads or anything like that.

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      11.19.09, 01:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • there was one family in dd's school. very normal. mom (who was the celeb) would pick up her own kids and others after school in her suv. kids participated in plays, chorus, fundraising - just like anyone else. Parents showed up to conferences etc, no fanfare. i didnt know her personally (differnt grade)but she always said hi to me and everyone else and she had several close friends in other moms who were not celebs/super wealthy. It;s probably one of the few places where they can feel normal. their kids hung out with all the kids in their classes.

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      11.19.09, 01:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • When I was a little girl I saw Roxie Roker and her kid at the airport. That kid, who was about my age, grew up to be that one guy on the radio. And they totally snubbed my mom and I.

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      11.19.09, 01:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I'll bite- there is the dc of a famous actress in my ds's preschool class- I noticed this child from the get go because they are exceptionally beautiful looking- had no idea whatsoever that the parents were famous until I got the class list. This should give you a clue- they are very low key parents- the less famous parent is an active member of the school community - the much more famous one is much lower key- just modestly does pick up and drop off- some kids in the class with nannies do playdates with this child- who, despite being child model looking- is a typical charming normal 3yo-you'd never know in a million years.

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      11.19.09, 01:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Anyone at Dalton who knows Bono's kids ... and their parents? What are they like? How do they interact with the other kids and parents in the grade?

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      11.19.09, 02:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Not me, but a good friend's dc goes to school w/dc of someone extremely famous. My friend has become a "mom friend" of this actress and it is hilarious to think about b/c my friend is so down to earth and non show-biz. But the kids have play dates together etc. and she and this actress are just like regular mom friends.

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      11.19.09, 02:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My dd isn't in school yet. But I work with celebrities and my experience even the crazies are pretty normal when it comes to their kids.

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      11.19.09, 02:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i'm a public mom with experience with a couple bold-faced names. the ones i know are completely normal in their interactions with the class but there are boundaries. the home is pretty much off limits, personal information isn't included on the class list. that sort of thing.

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      11.19.09, 02:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • At our private, the famous mom, married to a famous dad print their gmail e-mails vs. private ones, and they also gave a home address, but it was a temp home at the time.

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        11.19.09, 03:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • similar at our private. famous musician DH, gmail addresses, but real home address (well-known building, generally tight security)

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          11.19.09, 05:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • what do you mean they print their gmail e-mails vs private ones? Are you saying its an extra email account they have for spam from dc's friends parents?

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          11.20.09, 07:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • We have the child of a very famous personality in DS's class. The Dad (the famous one) has been around upon occasiona nd his wife goes to all b'day parties etc. It must be hard for her but she sucks it up! Very good for the kid, I think. Half the class skips parties because of country houses but they go.

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      11.19.09, 07:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Who cares - GAFL

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      11.20.09, 09:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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