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Highlights from the boards for the week of May 10th – May 16th: Work/Life Balance Better with DH Laid Off... (12 Replies) DH lost his job 18 months ago, I WOHM. Work / life balance is better than it has been for the last 18 years. I hope he ... More »

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  • [-]I posted this in another thread, but I think it may resonate with some of us, so will repost for discussion. I'm a reluctant WOHM, and while I don't resent my DH for not making enough for me to SAHM, per se, I am resentful. I don't particularly like my job and I want someone, ANYONE, to support me enough so I can be home with my DC. Others may mean this when they say they resent their DH. My DC are little and if I'm not doing a job I love, I'd rather be home with them.

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    05.16.12, 05:16 PM Flag ]
    • I'm so with you.

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      05.16.12, 05:17 PM Flag
    • You should have married rich like the stripper mom.

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      05.16.12, 05:18 PM Flag
    • I think a lot of WOHM feel similarly. I know two that resent their DH one for not making enough and the other for not working for 6 years. Nothing to be ashamed of. Also, nothing to be ashamed of if you loved working - different strokes..

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      05.16.12, 05:18 PM Flag
      • Really? I'm a WOHM and I cannot fathom resenting dh for "not making enough."

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        05.16.12, 05:33 PM Flag
    • You should resent yourself, for having neither a meaningful nor lucrative career.

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      05.16.12, 05:18 PM Flag
      • and you are?

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        05.16.12, 05:19 PM Flag
        • I have a meaningful lucrative career.

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          05.16.12, 05:20 PM Flag
          • sure you do.

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            05.16.12, 05:21 PM Flag
            • Ok, I guess it isn't possible because I am a girl?

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              05.16.12, 05:21 PM Flag
              • Yes, that is what I am saying.

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                05.16.12, 05:22 PM Flag
                • Honey, this is why the wealthy ones didn't want you.

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                  05.16.12, 05:24 PM Flag
                  • Honey, some of us were born wealthy - and here - we don't need to make good at Good Ol' Miss HS during 20th year reunion.

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                    05.16.12, 05:26 PM Flag
                    • Then why are you working?

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                      05.16.12, 05:27 PM Flag
                      • I am not the OP!

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                        05.16.12, 05:28 PM Flag
                        • You are posting under a comment directed at the op.

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                          05.16.12, 05:29 PM Flag
                        • This is a chat board, I was not aware there were post location rules. As you seem to know the navigation presets I suggest you attack OP on the appropriate lines.

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                          05.16.12, 05:30 PM Flag
                        • I did, that's the point, you don't get how it works.

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                          05.16.12, 05:31 PM Flag
      • And how do I make that happen while earning 75% of our HHI?

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        05.16.12, 05:20 PM Flag
        • What did you plan as a career while in college? Marriage?

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          05.16.12, 05:21 PM Flag
          • Are you paying attention? I have a 'great' career, make a lot of money. I just don't like it.

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            05.16.12, 05:22 PM Flag
            • Why did you choose it?

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              05.16.12, 05:22 PM Flag
              • What I really wanted to do couldn't support even a meager lifestyle.

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                05.16.12, 05:24 PM Flag
              • NP: To be fair, I think most of us don't fully understand what a certain field will be like until you've worked in it a while. I think people are being overly mean.

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                05.16.12, 05:25 PM Flag
                • But you expect a man to do something lucrative anyway?

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                  05.16.12, 05:25 PM Flag
                  • I don't get your point. So she chose something that would make a lot of money and doesn't like it. She didn't choose her husband for his money (obviously).

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                    05.16.12, 05:28 PM Flag
                    • She says she wants someone to support her so she doesn't have to work, right? And this is the resentment.

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                      05.16.12, 05:29 PM Flag
                      • She didn't say she was dumping her husband. She is just venting that she is resentful. Maybe you should try posting about your resentment instead of jumping in on threads and being mean to everyone.

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                        05.16.12, 05:31 PM Flag
                        • I didn't say dumping, why do you try and change the argument?

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                          05.16.12, 05:32 PM Flag
            • She is not paying attention she is too busy putting her pumps in her bag and throwing on her butt pump sneakers.

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              05.16.12, 05:23 PM Flag
              • Childish and adds nothing to the conversation. Just like you.

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                05.16.12, 05:24 PM Flag
          • Lady, not everyone was interested in proving something to the small town they grew up in and wanted to be a Big City Gal. Some of us didn't give a sh%t and had nothing to prove.

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            05.16.12, 05:22 PM Flag
            • Great, so no vamp,aiming now that a Prince Charming didn't rescue you from the course you charted.

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              05.16.12, 05:23 PM Flag
              • ^^complaining

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                05.16.12, 05:23 PM Flag
              • I am not the OP but it sounds to me as if she did not know she would feel this way before she had DCs. That you are clairvoyant as well as judgmental must be very useful where you come from.

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                05.16.12, 05:25 PM Flag
                • How do you think men feel? Do you imagine they don't lime their children or want out of the rat race?

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                  05.16.12, 05:26 PM Flag
                  • I am not sure that "liming" ones child is sanctioned by the authorities at present...

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                    05.16.12, 05:29 PM Flag
                  • I'm OP - my DH gets lots of time with DC and doesn't want to give that up by getting a more lucrative career so he has, in effect -- opted out unilaterally, which I am apparently not allowed to do according to some here.

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                    05.16.12, 05:30 PM Flag
                    • Make th same choice. Really. You guys will be fine on less.

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                      05.16.12, 05:31 PM Flag
                      • 2 low incomes?

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                        05.16.12, 05:32 PM Flag
                      • Yes, if you are in a high-earning career, figure out what you could make it on, and then see if you can consult or something. It may take a while in the current economy, but start networking. It sounds more like you are burned out in your career than resentful of your husband, imo.

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                        05.16.12, 05:33 PM Flag
                • Yeah, this poster seems really mean and determined to fight.

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                  05.16.12, 05:29 PM Flag
    • I understand you'd prefer to be home but you're not entitled not to work no matter how much your DH makes.

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      05.16.12, 05:18 PM Flag
      • I don't think OP said she is entitled to she said she would like to.

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        05.16.12, 05:20 PM Flag
    • Grow a set. Take responsibility for your life and your situation and stop whining about the DH that you CHOSE to marry and to father your children. If you want more money, go make some. If you want to stay home, figure out how to cut your expenses enough to stay home. So sick of whiny victim women. Pathetic.

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      05.16.12, 05:21 PM Flag
      • Unbelievably entitled.

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        05.16.12, 05:22 PM Flag
        • Are there things you can give up? I decided to sahm. Very happy with decision and life in general but we have a lot less than many others. It is a tradeoff. I think more women can do this, if it's what they want to do but many don't want to forego a second home, fancy clothing, luxuries. My dh does well but not nyc crazy well.

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          05.16.12, 05:29 PM Flag
          • I'm OP and I'd have to forego first home, Target clothing and yes, the occasional dinner out.

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            05.16.12, 05:31 PM Flag
            • How much do each of you make?

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              05.16.12, 05:32 PM Flag
        • np: how is she being whiney of entitled? She works hard and is missing her children? What part of this is hard to understand. These women they get flamed if they don't stay home, flamed if they do stay home and now flamed if they WANT to stay home. I think she is going through a hard time.

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          05.16.12, 05:32 PM Flag
          • Exactly. Everyone burns out sometimes.

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            05.16.12, 05:34 PM Flag
    • I'm OP and how is it he gets to do a job he loves that gives him a lot more time than me with DC because I earn a lot more working at a job I don't enjoy? How does it make me entitled to want the dynamic to change?

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      05.16.12, 05:34 PM Flag
      • Many many men are in this same predicament where the wife takes a low paying job or no job and expects him to pick up the slack- you need to talk to him and figure out a more equitable distribution.

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        05.16.12, 05:35 PM Flag
  • [-]Would you let your child play with a gay/lesbian couple's children? Even if they seemed like decent people would you have any reservations?

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    05.16.12, 11:11 AM Flag ]
    • yes I'd let them play, no I'd have no reservations

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      05.16.12, 11:13 AM Flag
    • Yes, no reservations.

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      05.16.12, 11:13 AM Flag
    • Why not?

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      05.16.12, 11:13 AM Flag
      • Gay dad: this is the most ridiculous thread on UB

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        05.16.12, 03:44 PM Flag
    • Yes. OP what would your reservations be? Are they going to turn your child gay??

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      05.16.12, 11:13 AM Flag
      • Simply unfamiliar with the lifestyle.

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        05.16.12, 11:14 AM Flag
        • Lifestyle? Ugh. You suck as a human being

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          05.16.12, 11:16 AM Flag
        • np: Do you let your children play with kids from other cultures because you are unfamiliar with the lifestyle? Would a Chinese or Indian household freak you out?

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          05.16.12, 11:18 AM Flag
          • No. It wouldn't

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            05.16.12, 11:22 AM Flag
            • Then why would it matter if parents were gay? What is the difference in your mind?

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              05.16.12, 11:26 AM Flag
              • I said below that I am asking out of curiosity to see what people would do if I were in the position of being a gay parent.

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                05.16.12, 11:28 AM Flag
    • No reservations at all.

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      05.16.12, 11:14 AM Flag
    • No problem with lesbians provided the parents hid all of their adult toys.

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      05.16.12, 11:14 AM Flag
      • And gay men?

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        05.16.12, 11:15 AM Flag
      • So you would have a problem with the gay male couple? Are you serious?

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        05.16.12, 11:15 AM Flag
        • NP. Have you seen some of the artwork in the homes of gay men?

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          05.16.12, 11:16 AM Flag
          • Seriously? Not all pervs are gay and not all gays are pervs. These people would be parents for fuck sake!

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            05.16.12, 11:18 AM Flag
          • In single gay men's homes I'd agree. I don't know any parents, gay or straight, who have X rated artwork on display,

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            05.16.12, 11:21 AM Flag
          • I think someone is having a good time with this post. I'm laughing right now. The artwork is the homes of gay men? Too funny.

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            05.16.12, 11:59 AM Flag
      • Wtf? Why would you add in the toy comment??? Straight couples use sex toys also.

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        05.16.12, 11:15 AM Flag
        • Because the "L" lifestyle places an emphasis on the sexual relationships between women.

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          05.16.12, 11:18 AM Flag
          • Lmao! Wtf!? Are you in a sexless marriage or something?

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            05.16.12, 11:20 AM Flag
        • Some do and its all hidden away. I've seen the L word lady.

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          05.16.12, 11:20 AM Flag
          • Ohhhhh, you are a troll! Thank god! I was worried someone this stupid was actually alive and well and posting on ub.

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            05.16.12, 11:21 AM Flag
        • They sure do. Accidently found my bosses dildo. I was very proud of them.

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          05.16.12, 11:21 AM Flag
          • Np most straight couples I know with whom I am comfortable talking about sex with admit they use toys. I don't see what is so weird about it. I never really viewed it as something to do with sexual preference.

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            05.16.12, 11:22 AM Flag
            • I'm comfortable with it, I just thought they were prudes. Now I see them as normal and a little kinky.

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              05.16.12, 11:28 AM Flag
        • Been to a good "bath-house" lately?

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          05.16.12, 11:57 AM Flag
      • This is a funny answer! Are you being funny intentionally?

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        05.16.12, 11:58 AM Flag
      • IMO heterosexual couples should hide their toys too

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        05.16.12, 04:29 PM Flag
      • Do your hetero friends have to hide theirs?

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        05.16.12, 05:02 PM Flag
    • why is this even a question?

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      05.16.12, 11:14 AM Flag
    • If they only "seem" like decent people to you they won't want their child playing with yours.

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      05.16.12, 11:15 AM Flag
    • The fact that you are even asking this question makes me depressed.

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      05.16.12, 11:15 AM Flag
      • Don't get me wrong. I'm not judgemental or anything and I would let my children play. I just want to see what UB would say.

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        05.16.12, 11:17 AM Flag
        • You are judgmental. You think gay men who are parents are any more likely to have porn around than straight couples?! You are pathetic.

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          05.16.12, 11:19 AM Flag
          • I don't think that. I'm Op. Someone else posted that. Sometimes I wonder if I'm bi/gay so I'm asking out of curiosity.

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            05.16.12, 11:25 AM Flag
            • Bull you are such a troll! Is it a school break in nz or something?

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              05.16.12, 11:31 AM Flag
              • OP: I'm just asking a question that I wonder about. I have a fear of letting people know my sexuality. I just wanted to see what people's attitudes towards PEOPLE LIKE ME were.

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                05.16.12, 11:33 AM Flag
                • You already said you were unfamiliar with the lifestyle. Kiwi? Is that you

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                  05.16.12, 11:35 AM Flag
                  • No. I am a bisexual woman ASKING a SIMPLE QUESTION. Though, ok I didn't ask it in a "Hi, I'm a bisexual person wondering if I ended up as a gay parent how I would be treated. Thanks." I wanted honest answers.

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                    05.16.12, 11:38 AM Flag
                    • You idiot. If you wanted honest answers you would phrase it EXACTLY LIKE THAT. If you wanted a flame war, you would post exactly like you did in your OP.

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                      05.16.12, 11:39 AM Flag
                      • No, because I didn't want people to make it personal or about me. I didn't want to get directly flamed. Even though it went wrong this way, it's not about me it's about a perception of a homophobe. I know the answer, that most people are very liberal in this board, and I don't have to face the fear of being attacked for my sexuality and feeling ashamed about it. I'm sorry it seemed trollish though.

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                        05.16.12, 11:45 AM Flag
                        • There's no such thing as bisexual.

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                          05.16.12, 02:57 PM Flag
                        • Kinsey Scale.

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                          05.16.12, 04:40 PM Flag
                      • You need to chill out. Your getting nasty.

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                        05.16.12, 11:49 AM Flag
          • More likely to have posters of Broadway Musicals and Cher movies then Mapplethorpe photos.

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            05.16.12, 11:27 AM Flag
    • Of course. I would have absolutely no reservations based solely on their parents being gay/lesbian.

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      05.16.12, 11:16 AM Flag
    • Are you afraid your snowflake will "catch the gay"?

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      05.16.12, 11:17 AM Flag
    • Of course. What an odd question. So it is two moms or two dads instead of a mom and a dad. What's the difference? What sort of strange things are you imagining?

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      05.16.12, 11:17 AM Flag
      • I'm just imagining that if I were part of a gay couple maybe other straight parents would make an issue of it. I wanted to see how likely it was.

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        05.16.12, 11:18 AM Flag
        • its going to vary. in lots of places including most of NYC, nobody will care; in some places, it could be an issue with some people. In Saudi Arabia it would be a big problem.

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          05.16.12, 12:58 PM Flag
    • No. However, I would not let my DC play with YOUR DCs.

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      05.16.12, 11:17 AM Flag
      • This!

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        05.16.12, 11:20 AM Flag
      • Because I seem like a homophobe?

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        05.16.12, 11:20 AM Flag
        • No - because you sound like a major tool bag and I wouldn't want to come in contact w/ you IRL.

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          05.16.12, 12:55 PM Flag
    • gay/lesbian couples probably adopted so they were at least vetted by somebody as to their fitness to be parents. The heterosexual couples, on the other hand, haven't shown anyone they provide a safe or loving home.

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      05.16.12, 11:18 AM Flag
      • That BS. Most lesbian or gay couples I know took the path of AI.

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        05.16.12, 11:31 AM Flag
      • not necessarily true - many use surrogates or donor sperm. that said OP is being ridiculous. either you trust the parents or you don't and it should have nothing to do with them being gay or straight.

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        05.16.12, 11:33 AM Flag
    • c'mon. You're kidding right?

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      05.16.12, 11:18 AM Flag
    • I knew a couple of gay guys who kept a large vat of Crisco in view by their bed. I wouldn't let them go over there.

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      05.16.12, 11:19 AM Flag
      • do they have a child? I would expect gay men who have a child to make their home more child friendly, just like the heterosexuals do when they have a child.

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        05.16.12, 11:23 AM Flag
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        05.16.12, 11:24 AM
      • I have some cocoa butter near my bed...I have dry skin.

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        05.16.12, 11:29 AM Flag
        • Sure you do. My kids will not be going to your place either, vixen.

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          05.16.12, 11:31 AM Flag
      • Were they from the south? They probably just had a hard-on for good southern grits.

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        05.16.12, 11:37 AM Flag
        • No, and stop stereotyping people.

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          05.16.12, 03:36 PM Flag
      • your kids will not understand the use of the crisco.

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        05.16.12, 12:04 PM Flag
        • I'll tell them it is for the gerbil slide.

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          05.16.12, 01:57 PM Flag
    • Only if they signed a "playdate waiver" not o let their gayness rub off on our DCs!!! - what a moronic post (gay/biracial/bicultural/Jewish/catholic couple here with DCs)

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      05.16.12, 11:19 AM Flag
      • Ha. Yes. I have always loved going to gay clubs because you avoid all the douchey frat guy types. My friends and I joke that this is because those fratty types are scared they are going to "catch the gay", so they don't come.

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        05.16.12, 11:33 AM Flag
      • Were you ever molested by a priest or a coach or anyone like that?

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        05.16.12, 03:34 PM Flag
      • Imagine how many schools your kids can get into!

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        05.16.12, 03:43 PM Flag
    • Yes, but I would rather that my child not play with yours. Those homophobia cooties are catching.

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      05.16.12, 11:19 AM Flag
      • I'm not homophobic. I said above why I'm asking. Nice to know you're so quick to judge without all the information.

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        05.16.12, 11:27 AM Flag
        • You mean where you said you're not familar with their "Lifestyle"? WTF do you think they hang around eating each other on the couch or something?

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          05.16.12, 11:29 AM Flag
        • The concept of judgeing... you should really think about that one.

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          05.16.12, 11:30 AM Flag
          • No "e" learn how to spell prude.

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            05.16.12, 11:34 AM Flag
          • Maybe we all should. Don't you think you're judging me? Ok, so what should be used instead of 'lifestyle'? Way of life? Sexual orientation? What wouldn't offend you?

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            05.16.12, 11:36 AM Flag
            • What wouldn't offend me is the thought that gays have a different way of life/lifestyle that anyone else. WTF is wrong with you.

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              05.16.12, 11:38 AM Flag
              • I just use the term I hear in the news. Look I don't know how truly straight people see it, so I said that because I thought it would make sense. Sorry for the way I asked it. Really like I said above, I'm just wondering if I were a gay parent how I would be treated. That's all. I'm glad to know that everyone would bash the rendered homophobe right back.

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                05.16.12, 11:42 AM Flag
        • OR: Newsflash: it's homophobic to think that the Gays run a playdate differently from the Straights.

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          05.16.12, 11:36 AM Flag
          • You mean there is no naked jello wrestling?

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            05.16.12, 11:38 AM Flag
            • OR: Okay, yeah, but with a very tasteful decor in the background.

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              05.16.12, 11:44 AM Flag
          • I don't want my kids watching The Sound of Music.

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            05.16.12, 02:04 PM Flag
    • Yes, DS has a friend with 2 moms, itisn't a big deal

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      05.16.12, 11:30 AM Flag
    • I would not have any reservations.

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      05.16.12, 11:30 AM Flag
    • Man, I looooved the "two moms" that lived next door to us back in the 80's. Their daughter was alright, we had to deal with her to hang out with her moms. They were so much fun.

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      05.16.12, 11:34 AM Flag
    • My son's best friend has same-sex parents. Why would this even be an issue? They are two of the nicest women I know. They have helped us out when we have been in tough straits more times than I can count. I am grateful they let their son play with ours!!!

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      05.16.12, 11:51 AM Flag
    • None whatsoever. By the way, my daughter babysits for the adopted son of a lovely lesbian couple. who, by the way, is black. Nice folks.

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      05.16.12, 11:56 AM Flag
      • BTW I am hiring a lesbian babysitter. Any questions?

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        05.16.12, 02:59 PM Flag
      • Who is black? Your daughter, the adopted son, or the lesbian couple? And how is this relevant?

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        05.16.12, 03:32 PM Flag
    • A better question is: Why are you asking? But I think this is fake, a pot-stirrer.

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      05.16.12, 11:56 AM Flag
      • more like shit-stirrer

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        05.16.12, 12:05 PM Flag
    • Not if they were white trash. I don't let my children play with gay white trash.

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      05.16.12, 02:15 PM Flag
      • oh, what about black trash. that's not kosher, is it?

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        05.16.12, 04:24 PM Flag
    • Of course I will. No reservations. I teach my kids families comes in all forms. He actually learn this at 3 in pre-school since one of the kids has 2 moms.

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      05.16.12, 02:16 PM Flag
    • Hell, yes. We have lots of gay friends and my DS is 2.5 and has already attended two gay weddings. He never noticed or questioned that two women were getting married )this was the case in both of the recent weddings) instead of a man and a woman. Not sure where you live that you would feel compelled to ask this question, but if you are indeed gay I feel bad for you.

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      05.16.12, 02:26 PM Flag
      • I think this is a fake. No one would write this in 2012. Do you live in the bible belt or something?

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        05.16.12, 02:43 PM Flag
    • Of course. Why not? Only kids I don't want my kid playing with are kids who I think would be a bad influence him and/or have parents that make me uncomfortable. Gay has nothing to do with it whatsoever.

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      05.16.12, 02:56 PM Flag
      • I don't let my kids play with gay, black, handicaped Muslim women's kids. Other than that, we're good.

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        05.16.12, 03:00 PM Flag
        • I think that is a bit closed minded. There is nothing wrong with handicapped people.

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          05.16.12, 03:29 PM Flag
    • Seriously? Of course. What difference could that possibly make?

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      05.16.12, 03:27 PM Flag
    • Seriously? What year are you living in?

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      05.16.12, 03:57 PM Flag
    • Of course. I ban play dates for kids that are mean or pains in the ass (like constantly excluding my dd's younger sister, etc.)...not for color or sexual orientation.

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    • Yes. DS already has had friends with two dads, we're attending our first NYC gay wedding and he's upset that he can't be invited and DS' "Jewish godfather" is gay.

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    • oh, shut up. i don't personally care but i could see why someone else might be uncomfortable with gay couples. they might not want to answer questions about two dads or two moms or whatever. everyone is a human being, even people who are iffy on homosexuality. get over yourself.

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      05.16.12, 04:22 PM Flag
      • I so

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        05.16.12, 04:24 PM Flag
      • Answering your kid's questions is called *parenting*.

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        05.16.12, 04:27 PM Flag
      • Okay, I NEVER make these kinds of generalizations on UB or IRL, but someone who's too uncomfortable to answer a kid's potential questions about their friend's gay parents is not mature enough to have kids. Seriously. No one's saying there needs to be a graphic description of sex, but how freaking hard is it to answer basic questions about this? Unreal.

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        05.16.12, 05:35 PM Flag
    • Oh my god. Is this a serious question? Why would someone have reservations? The couple would turn their children gay? This is hilarious!

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      05.16.12, 04:23 PM Flag
      • I do every week. My best friends are lesbians. Seriously.

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        05.16.12, 04:24 PM Flag
    • No reservations. But I wouldn't let my child play with anyone whose parents were against gay marriage. I just couldn't stomach it and I'd also fear that they were freaks of some sort. If you really care about someone else's sex life, you're up to some weird stuff yourself.

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      05.16.12, 04:25 PM Flag
    • What?!?! Why not?

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      05.16.12, 04:27 PM Flag
    • OMG. "Even if they seemed like decent people..." "EVEN"??? Even by UB standards, your fuckwittery is amazing.

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      05.16.12, 05:03 PM Flag
    • Yes. no reservations at all

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      05.16.12, 05:21 PM Flag
    • absolutely - why wouldn't I?

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      05.16.12, 05:23 PM Flag
    • Huh? I wouldn't give it a second thought. And what do you mean "even if they seemed like decent people?" Why wouldn't they be decent people?

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  • [-]SoCal mom here: After months watching this board, I now have zero desire to ever visit NYC again.

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    • lots of the crazies are not nyc based. don't paint us all with the same brush

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      05.16.12, 04:40 PM Flag
    • Don't worry, you'd never meet any of the beeyotches on here, and if you did you'd never know!

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      05.16.12, 04:40 PM Flag
    • stay inside your gates

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      05.16.12, 04:41 PM Flag
      • No gates, just an ocean view

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        05.16.12, 04:43 PM Flag
    • Good. We never wanted your ass here, anyway.

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      05.16.12, 04:41 PM Flag
      • +1

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        05.16.12, 04:42 PM Flag
        • Real NYC moms do not ever say beeyotches.

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          05.16.12, 04:43 PM Flag
          • jersey

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            05.16.12, 04:43 PM Flag
          • I live here but am not from here, no.

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            05.16.12, 04:45 PM Flag
          • i didn't say beeyotches. i told her we didn't want her ass here.

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            05.16.12, 04:48 PM Flag
      • OP: Illustrated my point, thanks

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        05.16.12, 04:42 PM Flag
        • NP-do you really think people are like this? Or that is a true representation? Come on.

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          05.16.12, 04:45 PM Flag
          • i am. genuine new yorker, through and through!

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            05.16.12, 04:49 PM Flag
      • +2

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        05.16.12, 05:34 PM Flag
    • That is like saying I would never visit SoCal because of 90210 or Melrose place.

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      05.16.12, 04:42 PM Flag
      • True, OP. I've lived there and here. Actually many more down to earth normal people here, really.

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        05.16.12, 04:44 PM Flag
      • OP: Actually those shows depicted real-ppl types I knew in college. Real HW too

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        05.16.12, 05:02 PM Flag
    • way easier to be rich in LA private school a third less

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      05.16.12, 04:43 PM Flag
    • what part? Santa Monica? or further south?

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      05.16.12, 04:44 PM Flag
    • Yeah, after watching the Karadshians I have no desire to go to Calabasas, or wherever they live ever again.

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      05.16.12, 04:46 PM Flag
      • OP: They live in Hidden Hills, a gated community in Calabasas. I grew up in (non-gated) Calabasas, actually a very nice, very normal area.

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        05.16.12, 04:55 PM Flag
        • Just like where I live in NYC - away from UB La La land....

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          05.16.12, 04:56 PM Flag
    • This board is not representative of NYC, luckily. This site is like bitterness distilled.

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      05.16.12, 04:50 PM Flag
      • OP: Some of it is the sheer aggression and stress-level, and expenses

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        05.16.12, 04:57 PM Flag
    • Fellow SoCal mom here, what part?

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      05.16.12, 05:03 PM Flag
    • stay in LA, we don't need you. LA is horrible, gross, polluted, trashy.

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      05.16.12, 05:33 PM Flag
  • [-]California moms: Visiting a friend in Pasadena, CA. Traveling with my small dc. I prefer to stay at a hotel vs. her home for the first few nights. Any recs for lodging? Is Malibu nearby? Shutters On The Beach might be nice.

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    • SoCal Mom here. Malibu is no where near Pasadena. Stay on Colorado in Old Town Pasadena. Ask your friend which hotel

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      05.16.12, 04:53 PM Flag
      • Thank you appreciate it. How far will we be from the ocean? I was thinking I would rather drive a bit and be on the ocean for a few days. This is why I thought of Shutters.

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        05.16.12, 04:56 PM Flag
        • OR: If you want some beach time, spend a few days in Laguna, stay at the Montage and have your Pasadena friend visit

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          05.16.12, 04:58 PM Flag
          • Like this thank you.

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            05.16.12, 05:06 PM Flag
            • I think it is fun to stay at the beach. It is no big deal to drive to Pasadena from Santa Monica as long as you are not going during rush hour or coming back then. Shutters is wonderful, but expensive. You can get a great deal at the Loew's which might actually be more fun for a child. You will be 5 minutes from the pier amusements, the little aquarium under the pier, 3rd street promenade, the new mall which has great outdoor space to eat in, and the beach playgrounds. You can also rent bikes and ride to venice or even to Malibu. Don't miss the Huntington Gardens and Museum or the Norton Simon in Pasadena!

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              05.16.12, 05:33 PM Flag
    • I stayed at the Ritz in Pasadena several years ago. It was fine, although not sure it was worth the price.

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      05.16.12, 05:30 PM Flag
      • Oh, make sure you get a room near the pool at Loew's or on the Beach side.

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        05.16.12, 05:34 PM Flag
  • [-]What was the craziest drug you did in your youth and what did it feel like?

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    • Shrooms. It was pretty trippy.

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      05.16.12, 04:17 PM Flag
      • Acid. Ditto.

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        05.16.12, 04:18 PM Flag
      • me too. i believe i experienced an ego death. i stopped taking reality for granted after that.

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        05.16.12, 04:26 PM Flag
        • ego death?

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          05.16.12, 04:27 PM Flag
          • i didn't know where i stopped and the ground began, hallucinations of the big bang, no sense of self. i lost sense of being the thing that sensory stimuli is experienced by and identified with the stimuli, if that makes any sense. it was profoundly shattering.

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            05.16.12, 04:33 PM Flag
            • are you disabled now? Can u work?

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              05.16.12, 04:36 PM Flag
              • Are ou kidding?

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                05.16.12, 04:36 PM Flag
              • i recovered. it totally changed my perspective. long term i think it made me more compassionate and questioning/curious.

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                05.16.12, 04:50 PM Flag
            • me too, k hole

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              05.16.12, 05:31 PM Flag
    • Acid, weed laced with cocaine ( I didn't know) that was a complete nightmare

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      05.16.12, 04:50 PM Flag
    • A tall water glass with 2/3 bourbon and 1/3 coke. I was 15. It felt like a dream, then an out-of-body-experience, then when the room started to spin it was more like a vomit-on-myself and feel-like-shit experience.

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      05.16.12, 04:57 PM Flag
    • Never took drugs except smoking or once. Drank loads in college though.

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      05.16.12, 05:11 PM Flag
  • [-]What gross habits do you have when no one is looking?

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    • OP: I'll start-- I pick my nose.

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      05.16.12, 12:44 PM Flag
    • farting while skiing

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      05.16.12, 12:44 PM Flag
    • peein the shower

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    • I fart, it feels good, specially if you pretty bloated.

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      05.16.12, 12:46 PM Flag
      • Everyone farts, that is like saying peeing is a bad habit

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        05.16.12, 12:48 PM Flag
        • But not in front of people, when you are around someone you don't usually fart do you?

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          05.16.12, 12:49 PM Flag
          • I fart around my DH.

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            05.16.12, 12:49 PM Flag
            • I fart in bed, close to my DH's legs. LOL.

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              05.16.12, 12:50 PM Flag
          • The op is about things you do when no one is around.... You don't pee when people are around, do you?

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            05.16.12, 12:50 PM Flag
      • Same, but right in the dog's face. The expressions are priceless.

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        05.16.12, 12:51 PM Flag
    • smelling my feet

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    • I fart on my hands and smell them, I know, I know, WEIDO but I like it.

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      05.16.12, 12:50 PM Flag
    • I like to pee on my toes in the shower.

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      05.16.12, 12:51 PM Flag
    • I put my fingers in my mouth and play with my gums.

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    • Eat my toenails

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      05.16.12, 12:51 PM Flag
    • When I have my period, I smell my used tampons.

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    • I like to play with my butt hole.

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      05.16.12, 12:53 PM Flag
    • I pick the food between my teeth and eat it back again.

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      05.16.12, 12:54 PM Flag
    • you people are SICK

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      05.16.12, 12:54 PM Flag
    • I lick my house toilet.

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      05.16.12, 12:55 PM Flag
    • I brush my teeth with my husband's tooth brush.

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      05.16.12, 12:59 PM Flag
    • I smell my DS's underwear.

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      05.16.12, 01:00 PM Flag
    • I like to pick the clumps of deoderant from inder my armpits.

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      05.16.12, 01:00 PM Flag
    • I like to smell my farts

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      05.16.12, 01:01 PM Flag
    • I check the dirty toilet paper from the cans. it is odd, but i like it. don't judge me.

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      05.16.12, 01:02 PM Flag
    • I used to touch my pee while peeing, i like the warm feeling specially in winter. of course i washed my hands afterwards.

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      05.16.12, 01:03 PM Flag
    • smelling my dh's undies.

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      05.16.12, 01:03 PM Flag
    • I pull out my nose hairs with my fingers.

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      05.16.12, 01:04 PM Flag
    • smelling the dirt inside my belly button

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      05.16.12, 01:10 PM Flag
    • Squeezing parts of my face until white stuff comes out.

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      05.16.12, 01:12 PM Flag
    • Not a habit but I peed in the shower once, it was following a surgery so everything hurt and it was a pain to even get out of bed so I wasn't going to take 5 minutes to get in and out of my first hot shower in a week. FWIW I soaped up afterwards so I don't think it's that gross.

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      05.16.12, 01:31 PM Flag
      • I pee on my toes in the shower.

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        05.16.12, 01:32 PM Flag
      • Why even bother with that?

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        05.16.12, 01:33 PM Flag
        • Bother with what?

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          05.16.12, 01:39 PM Flag
          • Posting. You have more disclaimers going on than confession. Not to mention its already been said a few times.

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            05.16.12, 01:48 PM Flag
            • I didnt see it posting and I think it's pretty gross for an adult to purposely pee on themselves.

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              05.16.12, 03:05 PM Flag
      • This is the lamest confession....

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        05.16.12, 01:59 PM Flag
      • I pee in the shower all the time, nothing wrong with that. Shitting in the shower is a different story.

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        • np. I don't know, peeing in the shower strikes me as pretty gross. Not that I haven't done it a few times, but I try not to. I guess the bottom of the stall/tub gets reasonably cleaned off from the shower, but still. Yuck.

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          05.16.12, 05:06 PM Flag
    • I feel so normal reading this.

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      05.16.12, 03:35 PM Flag
    • i pee in pools/hot tubs

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      05.16.12, 03:40 PM Flag
    • I'll floss in the living room while watching TV if no one else is home.

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  • [-]Where can I buy compression socks, for flying long flights, in NYC?

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    • Any Duane Reade or other drugstore

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      05.16.12, 05:04 PM Flag
    • How old are you?

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      • I'm 45-but, my feet have tendency to swell, and I don't want to deal with that, plus, a 35 yo girl in my office just got a blood clot on a long flight, no history, great health. Her doc said it can happen to anyone, so I want to wear them. Am I weird?

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        05.16.12, 05:09 PM Flag
        • No, you're not weird, esp if your feet have a tendency to swell. Why mess around with blood clots? Also, get up at least every hour and keep well hydrated.

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    • any drugstore will have these

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      05.16.12, 05:08 PM Flag
    • Jackrabbit sports

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      05.16.12, 05:12 PM Flag
    • If you are talking of the prescription-strength ones (and they are the only ones that work), they sell them at Bigelows on 9th street and 6th Av, but you have to go to their upstairs section. I wear them on flights and they help very good, I also wore them during my pregnancy. I have never seen them at regular drugstores. Ask your Dr for a prescription, they may be covered by your insurance.

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  • [-]I'm the mom who posted about working as a stripper in a really bad club in one of the outter boroughs, experiencing NYPD busts, having a close friend murdered, a bouncer who turned out to be a murder, prostitues as roommates.best friends and then marrying someone wealthy, etc. I am bored so if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.

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    • what do you like on tv?

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      05.16.12, 04:46 PM Flag
      • Real Housewives, the news, 20/20, crime shows.

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        • This is such a fake. If you married someone very wealthy you would have been upscale in one of the Manhattan Gentlemen's Clubs. I highly doubt you working in an outer borough strip club.

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          • No, it's not fake. He is not wealthy for UB standards, not a millionaire. I was not the only one who got married, many of the other girls married and are now in LI and other Jersey suburbs. I also have a bachelors degree.

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            05.16.12, 04:51 PM Flag
            • so what is wealthy to you?

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              05.16.12, 04:53 PM Flag
              • We own a nice house in NJ and have enough that I don't have to worry about much financially, which is a nice change from where I was before I got married.

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                05.16.12, 04:55 PM Flag
                • but strippers make bank!

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                  05.16.12, 04:55 PM Flag
                  • Not where I worked. The most I've ever made was less than $600.

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                    05.16.12, 04:57 PM Flag
    • Do you have to be thin and attractive to do the job? What if you have a pretty face and big boobs, but are just overweight.

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      • Absolutely NOT. The girls that worked with me were pretty low class, slightly overweight, c-section scars and no plastic surgery (except for the South Americans). However I'm sure that's not the case in the fancy clubs.

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        • What's fancy? How much do lower end or middle end girls make vs higher end?

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          • I would say fancy clubs are Scores, Hustlers, Penthouse, etc. At a low class club like the one I worked anything from a few bucks for drugs up til $500 a night. I've heard the higher end girls at Scores, Hustler and other places in the city make over $1,000 per night easily. Same thing goes for the famous hip-hop strip club, lots of money.

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            05.16.12, 05:24 PM Flag
    • why don't you write your story?

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      05.16.12, 04:47 PM Flag
      • Were you molested as a child?

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        • np: I was abused as a child and am not a stripper not have I ever abused another person. Not all abused children grow up to have terrible lives. Many of us can, and do heal and have normal lives.

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          • I don't think all abused children grow up to be strippers,but i do think a lot of strippers were abused as a child. There are not enough strip clubs in the world to employ all the abused children.

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            05.16.12, 04:58 PM Flag
            • op- I've heard a lot of horror stories and yes, many of them were abused, either sexually or physically or emotionally. Some had pimps since they were 17, others were in foster care when they were younger.

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              • I wasn't trying to be rude,I once heard a statistic that 90 percent of porn stars were molested as children. It has always made me sad.

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        • op-No, never. Lost my virginity at 19.

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          05.16.12, 04:52 PM Flag
      • NP: You should write it all down. I would totally read that. Glad that everything turned out well for you.

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        05.16.12, 04:56 PM Flag
        • op- I thought about it. When I first shared my story here, others came forward and said that they (or their friends) had experienced similar situations and are writing books about it. I don't think I would be able to tell mine because I don't want to embaras my family.

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          05.16.12, 05:04 PM Flag
          • You could only do that by misspelling embarrass

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            • try not to be an ass OP actually sounds like a kind soul.

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              05.16.12, 05:16 PM Flag
              • op- Thanks

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                05.16.12, 05:24 PM Flag
                • Any time. UES native got yer back :-)

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                  05.16.12, 05:28 PM Flag
    • Assuming that your successful DH also was brought up in a different class how do you feel about your own roots, educational background and upbringing in comparison? Do you feel awkward in social circles with his childhood friends, do you feel not accepted by his family?

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      • OP- I do feel very awkward still. I don't know who knows what. Some of his friends were also customers and therefore know everything. I don't know if they have told their current wives so it's a bit embarrassing.

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    • Did you meet the wealthy guy at the club? If not, did he know?

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      05.16.12, 04:49 PM Flag
      • Were you a runaway discovered at the bus station or brought over in a trafficking situation?

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        • OP- No, I was just here illegally on an expired student visa. Nobody forced me to do anything.

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          05.16.12, 04:54 PM Flag
      • Yes, I met him there. He was from NJ. Like I said above, he is not wealthy for UB standards. Bad choice of word.

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        05.16.12, 04:53 PM Flag
    • so, do you live in Jersey

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      • Is your maintenance exhausting? Do you have implants, barbie hair, nails, waxed everything, trout lips? Sorry this is the stereotype. Can people tell by looking at you that you were in the business?

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        05.16.12, 04:58 PM Flag
        • Do you have a pole in your bedroom and lucite heels?

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          05.16.12, 04:58 PM Flag
          • op- I actually do have a pole. lol It is a good workout. I don't use it much, but it's in my garage somewhere.

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        • op- No! You definitely can't tell now. I'm in my 30s now, maybe when I was younger, but not anymore. I've had liposuction, but that was after I left the business.

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      • op-Yes

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    • When does bed bug bites go away?

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      05.16.12, 05:01 PM Flag
    • Did any Prince Charmings come and save you like in 'Pretty Woman'?

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  • [-]Spin off: You get on an overcrowded flight and they separate you and dc. What's the youngest age you would be comfortable with dc sitting alone on the same flight you were on?

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    • I'm willing to bet someone would be willing to swap with one of you to avoid having to deal with an unsupervised child as a seat neighbor.

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      • You'd be surprised.

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      • there have been threads on here where people complained about being asked to swap so a parent and child could sit together. after all, they booked well in advance and reserved the seat they wanted. they don't want to trade for a middle seat.

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        • But s*it happens. I booked a flight with my infant and 3yo and there weren't enough seats left together so seats will be assigned when we get there. Are you saying that I should have been forced to book a different flight (which would have meant another indirect) because my 3yo is not old enough to fly alone, even though there were vacant seats on the plane?

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          • I'm not saying they are right or wrong. I'm just saying this would be their reason for not doing it.

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            • np: also, IME, flight attendants are good with handling this. they have shamed people into giving up their seats more than once. they want you taking care of your kid, not them.

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              • PP: Sorry, I was a bit angry there. This post ust had me spoiling for a fight with anyone who tells me that they are unwilling to move so that my almost 3.5yo can sit with his mother rather than in between two adult strangers for four hours.

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                • i think most of us are on your side.

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                  05.15.12, 02:13 PM Flag
            • Okay, then they can get the seat they want plus the pleasure of babysitting my child for the flight. Their choice.

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          • np: well, i don't think there is anything inherently unfair with you being forced to choose a different flight bc the one you want to be on doesn't have seats together the way you'd like - no different than going to the theater.

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            05.15.12, 02:03 PM Flag
            • except often you did pick the ones you liked, and the airline changed things. or put you on a different flight, or didn't let you pick seats until you got to the airport.

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              05.15.12, 02:05 PM Flag
              • but aren't those the risks we take when we fly with kids. i do agree that the airline should make accommodations, but i think many people don't worry about it and assume others will accommodate. there are many adjustments i make when i travel w my kids. i try for direct flights, not to have the last connection of the day, not to have a flight that leaves at 6am requiring us to get up at 3:30am, etc. if i was worried about not sitting together, I'd adjust my plans accordingly.

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                05.15.12, 02:13 PM Flag
                • I think she is saying that for example, your seats could be together and then your direct flight is cancelled, so you are put on two indirect flights and may have to fight for seats together anyway.

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                  05.15.12, 02:20 PM Flag
                  • this is what air travel today is like. it's one of the many reasons we've opted for driving vacations now that the kids are young.

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                    05.15.12, 02:22 PM Flag
                    • some of us have family on the other side of the country, or the ocean.

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                      05.15.12, 02:27 PM Flag
                • this isn't always a case of poor planning. We've had our seats changed only as we were boarding. They put your boarding pass in that machine to scan it and it pops out a different one with a different seat number. So our seats had changed between the time we checked in and flight time.

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                  05.15.12, 03:08 PM Flag
        • np: there have been times, when i book well in advnace, get the seats we want and when it's time to check in for the flight, they've re-assigned the seats. so that's not a very good reason.

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          05.15.12, 02:02 PM Flag
          • np: This has happened to me too. I've chosen my seats then learned I didn't have a seat period when I got to the gate. If an airline tried to separate me from my child on the flight we would not get on the plane. There's a risk of abuse in doing that and I hope the airlines realize they are liable if that were to happen. In fact I'm astonished this even occurs.

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            05.16.12, 07:24 AM Flag
            • nnp. I'd be inclined to ask each airline employee I had to deal with for their full name, so I know who to hold accountable if the stranger seated next to my 4 yo does anything inappropriate to her. Probably that would get us banished from the flight, though.

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              05.16.12, 05:24 PM Flag
    • as young as they'll take them. seriously, I give the other passenger 5 mins tops before they are *begging* me to switch seats.

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      05.15.12, 01:50 PM Flag
      • this. i have been in this situation (seated apart from my 4 yo DS) and i was like "Have fun, stranger. If you need me, I've got my crossword and red wine over here in 32 C." Stand your ground if people refuse to move. My 4 yo would scream for mommy for 3 hours straight, you think some stranger wants to keep their precious aisle seat all through that? No way.

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        05.15.12, 01:54 PM Flag
      • right? You won't give me the seat next to my kid? I'll give him a Sharpie, a cup of grape juice and a coke. Then I'll pop a Zanax and make believe I don't know him.

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        05.15.12, 03:08 PM Flag
        • np. I'd tell dd to aim for her neighbor's lap when she vomits from motion sickness.

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          05.16.12, 05:26 PM Flag
    • This happened with my four year old last month and it was fine. He played iPad games and looked at books.

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      05.15.12, 01:52 PM Flag
      • wow. my 4 y.o. would have freaked.

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        05.15.12, 01:53 PM Flag
        • I guess it just depends on the kid. My oldest probably would not have handled it as well at that age

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          05.15.12, 02:02 PM Flag
    • Can they legally do this. What in case of an emergency? They tried to do this when my twins were 3 and I refused to be seated separately.

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      05.15.12, 01:54 PM Flag
      • they tried to do this when my dc was 5 (and we had seats booked months in advance that they changed when we were boarding) and only changed them because the people behind me in the line to get on the plane refused to board the plane until they fixed my seats.

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        05.15.12, 01:57 PM Flag
    • keep these infants off planes -- air travel sucks as it is

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      05.15.12, 01:56 PM Flag
      • yeah, totally! all those people who adopt infants should never get to bring them home! wtf??

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        05.15.12, 01:57 PM Flag
        • fed ex em or something

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          05.15.12, 01:58 PM Flag
      • You must not fly much. The little ones are great on planes. The white noise puts them to sleep or they're so little that you can barely hear them. It's the tantrum throwing toddlers that are nightmares.

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        05.15.12, 04:19 PM Flag
    • It happened to us last weekend because our original flight was cancelled. Everyone was very helpful. I wouldn't want to sit by an unsupervised 2yo!

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      05.15.12, 01:57 PM Flag
    • I would never let this happen. What if the stranger watches porn, or gropes your child, or talks trash to DC etc? You would have no idea what was happening if seated more than 2 rows away.

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      05.15.12, 01:57 PM Flag
      • Is this a joke?

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        05.15.12, 02:04 PM Flag
        • it happens. but the answer in part is to teach your kid to speak up.

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          05.15.12, 02:06 PM Flag
          • I'm sorry but it seems nuts to not let dc sit two rows away because of a possible pedophile

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            05.15.12, 02:08 PM Flag
          • A 2-year-old should speak up?

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            05.15.12, 02:10 PM Flag
        • NP What if there is an emergency? Will you rely on a stranger to take care of DC?

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          05.15.12, 02:09 PM Flag
          • right, the stranger who won't trade seats with you doesn't suddently become a caring, heroic individual and help your child with their oxygen mask.

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            05.15.12, 03:09 PM Flag
        • np: What do you mean is this a joke? It is a legitimate concern. I was groped by a teen boy when I was a child. He was the son of my father's best friend, a very wealthy man, a "good family". If you think you'd be able to spot somebody like that from a mile away you are incredibly naive. You need to get wise for your own child's safety.

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          05.16.12, 07:27 AM Flag
      • I've had a guy next to me on a plane watch porn on his iPad.

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        05.15.12, 02:05 PM Flag
        • Wtf?!

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          05.15.12, 02:06 PM Flag
        • me too -- should i have confronted him ?

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          05.15.12, 02:06 PM Flag
          • Np I would have!

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            05.15.12, 02:07 PM Flag
          • I did. It was gay porn, so I didn't feel threatened but I just wanted him to turn it off. I said it nicely. He was surprisingly huffy.

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            05.15.12, 02:07 PM Flag
            • Well, how else was he going to pass the time: P

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              05.15.12, 02:08 PM Flag
              • Especially since Words with Friends is a no-go.

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                05.15.12, 02:10 PM Flag
            • Good for you. But I doubt that DC would find gay porn any more palatable than the hetero kind.

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              05.15.12, 02:30 PM Flag
            • np. He probably assumed you were offended because you're homophobic. Personally, I don't see what feeling threatened has to do with it. I don't want to watch porn of any variety with random strangers. There was a guy at Starbucks watching some sort of porn the other day, sitting right next to me while I was trying to get some work done. It was pretty empty, so I just moved, but the next person who came along--after it had gotten crowded--complained and got the manager to make him turn it off.

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              05.15.12, 04:14 PM Flag
              • I guess I wouldn't have said it nicely if he was just some hetero perv. I was probably nicer because I didn't want him to think I was homophobic. Huh. I hadn't thought about that. If nothing else, it was an education. I had no idea testicles could be so shiny.

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                05.15.12, 04:24 PM Flag
                • lol! But social conventions are changing, and I think this is going to be more and more common moving forward. Not sure that I'm ready for this boundary shift. There was a post the other day about a woman getting visibly hot and bothered while reading porn on public transport, which would bother me just as much as the guy watching porn on his laptop. Even network TV shows are getting smuttier than anything I ever would have imagined 5 years ago. I feel like such an old prude these days.

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                  05.15.12, 04:45 PM Flag
        • Yes, it happened to me too.

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          05.15.12, 02:12 PM Flag
          • Ew. I wonder how often this happens? C'mon, people. Some things should be private.

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            05.15.12, 02:14 PM Flag
            • in the old pre-computer days, i sat next to a guy who, at 10 am, ordered three bloodies and read playboy the whole flight.

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              05.15.12, 02:25 PM Flag
              • ^^i guess i mena "read"

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                05.15.12, 02:31 PM Flag
        • I've had even worse than that.

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          05.15.12, 02:59 PM Flag
      • np. This happened to me--the groping--when I was 12 and flew by myself to visit my grandparents.

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        05.15.12, 04:11 PM Flag
        • I'm so sorry. I'm the poster who brought up the possibility. I know because it happened twice to me as a child in very family-friendly surroundings (a carnival and boat ride).

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          05.15.12, 04:35 PM Flag
          • Thank you--I'm sorry for you too. Did you tell anyone what happened? I didn't until years later.

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            05.15.12, 04:47 PM Flag
            • I did tell my mom at the carnival. She had some guys detain the molester until the police arrived. He had a record and I appeared in court to testify. It just so happened that this was the offense that led to him being jailed.

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              05.15.12, 05:02 PM Flag
              • Good for you and your mom!

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                05.15.12, 07:55 PM Flag
    • This just happened to me and my 4 yo on a flight to LA. The airline changed my seat (w/o informing me) to first class because of my mileage status but still had my 4 yo in coach. They did nothing to switch me back to coach with dc. I was furious and was told to sort it out with the person sitting next to my dc. I asked the passenger to switch with me and after she angrily griped for about 5 minutes I then told her I was seated in first and she hopped up, quickly gathered her things and practically sprinted to the front of the plane. It was a hassle that I didn't ask for but had to deal with because the airline wouldn't correct their mistake. I don't get it.

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      05.15.12, 02:10 PM Flag
      • I just posted below. Did the same to me with a 2-year old. Absurd.

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        05.15.12, 02:17 PM Flag
      • How on earth could they be ok with a 4 yr old sitting by themselves? How is this the parents problem alone??

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        05.15.12, 07:50 PM Flag
    • I hate how this is becoming more and more common. It will stop when someone sues because their kid was molested.

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      05.15.12, 02:11 PM Flag
    • They did this to me with 2-year-old dd, and the B*tch at the gate told me it wasn't her responsibility to find us seats together. BTW, I had booked months ahead of time and picked out our seats--they just switched us for no reason, me in row 3, her in row 20. Not kidding. And people were such a-holes about moving seats-so many people said no, including people on either side of me and DD. It is enough to make you seriously doubt the innate goodness of mankind, honestly.

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      05.15.12, 02:14 PM Flag
      • it really took this for you to doubt it? the fact that people do not care one iota about anyone but themselves (and maybe their immediate family) was not obvious to you before?

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        05.15.12, 02:24 PM Flag
        • I try to look on the bright side. But this made me as angry as anything ever in my life. The attendant at the gate was so mean about it, and people were just unreasonable about not wanting to move. My daughter had just turned 2--who in their right mind thinks she should fly by herself?

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          05.15.12, 02:28 PM Flag
      • It's worse in the NY bound flights.

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        05.15.12, 02:25 PM Flag
    • I fly around once/month and have never had my seat assignment switched on me. I always move without complaining when this situation arises and I have volunteered without being asked as well, but I assume it is the result of poor planning and feel a little annoyed. I do not express this out loud, but that's how I feel.

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      05.15.12, 02:22 PM Flag
      • Oh, I definitely have had my seat switched in coach. Not in first.

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        05.15.12, 02:25 PM Flag
      • Well that's silly. Because when I was changed I had my seat booked months ahead of time. My planning couldn't have been better. I was on JetBlue, btw.

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        05.15.12, 02:25 PM Flag
        • Of course it can and does happen sometimes, but the vast majority of the time people have only themselves to blame for not having a seat assignment, or not having the one they want.

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          05.15.12, 02:28 PM Flag
          • Or maybe circumstances beyond their control caused them to not have the lead time to plan better. A sick relative, or something. In general, I give people the benefit of the doubt, and since I know nothing about them other than that they need a different seat assignment, I don't judge them for it or assume anything.

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            05.15.12, 02:30 PM Flag
            • Well, I judge silently and give up my seat regardless.

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              05.15.12, 02:36 PM Flag
          • i would not assume that a person, rather than the airline, screwed something like this up.

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            05.15.12, 02:35 PM Flag
      • I try everything I can to book as far in advance as possible when traveling with DCs, but sometimes it's not possible - eg, a recent family funeral.

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        05.15.12, 03:02 PM Flag
      • I recently flew internationally on Delta with <2yo DS in his own seat. When I made the reservation (months in advance), I booked specific seats, which were said to be "confirmed." I happened to check again a few weeks before the flight and saw that I had no seat assignment. I called Delta and the agent told me that - as a matter of policy - they would not confirm seats for families with children on that flight until 7 days before the flight. I called back then and all was fine, but only because there still were seats together. It definitely is more likely to be poor planning -- by design! -- by the airlines than poor planning by the parents.

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        05.15.12, 06:18 PM Flag
        • wtf kind of policy is that? they are trying to make things more difficult?

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          05.16.12, 06:50 AM Flag
          • She was apologetic but had no explanation for why they do that. It truly makes no sense, especially since car seats can't be used in certain rows/seats, so it's already harder to find a seat. I didn't think to ask whether the policy applies when it is just 1 parent and 1 dc (our original confirmed seats were three together), but if that were the case, they should at least have kept the confirmation for seats together for dc and either me or DH.

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            05.16.12, 10:49 AM Flag
    • i wouldn't let this happen. you never know what the people next to them are doing (& recall years back, the sicko who sexually assaulted a young girl under a blanket on a flight?)!!!

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      05.15.12, 03:01 PM Flag
    • 8+

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      05.15.12, 03:03 PM Flag
    • once when I was a kid an attendant asked me to switch seats so this guy could sit with his kid. Turned out it was a sham and I was easy pickens for a move to settle down some irate passenger that wanted a better seat. Haven't been presented with this situation again, but if so I wouldn't move unless there was a parent and infant suffering in my immediate vicinity and unless it was clear I was not sacrificing my comfort for the general comfort (and not security) of the parent.

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      05.15.12, 04:24 PM Flag
      • Not necessarily. Maybe the guy was in the aisle or window seat and didn't want to switch with the parent to allow him/her to sit with the dc. He only agreed to move when promised another aisle/window seat.

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        05.15.12, 06:50 PM Flag
    • Maybe 7 or 8.

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      05.15.12, 04:43 PM Flag
    • For those of you who have had issues with airlines changing your assigned/reserved seat assignments and separating you and your small child -- what airline was this??

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      05.15.12, 06:43 PM Flag
      • I posted above re Delta. They did not ultimately separate us, but they "unreserved" confirmed seats, and I do not know what would have happened if I hadn't checked, called, and found out that I had to call back 7 days (or fewer) before the flight.

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        05.15.12, 07:34 PM Flag
        • Also, a year ago, we flew United with dc who was 7mo at the time (but for whom we bought a seat). I reserved seats together, but at check-in, they had dc, dh, and me all in separate rows, several rows apart. We complained and were told they would "see what they could do." They did ultimately seat us all together, but it was not clear they would until we actually boarded the plane.

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          05.15.12, 07:38 PM Flag
      • Jet Blue. American as well but DH flashed his Executive Platinum card and suddenly they were able to work it out.

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        05.16.12, 06:21 AM Flag
        • ^^If I were alone, I'd be SOL.

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          05.16.12, 06:22 AM Flag
      • Just the other day I was flying with my dc and had boarding passes with our seats on it that I had gotten at curbside check in. I was paged at the gate because they switched my seats without telling me and my ds and I were 10 rows apart. This was American Airlines.

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        05.16.12, 06:47 AM Flag
      • American did it, bumped half our family and separated the rest of us. cathay pacific also gave us four separate seats all over the cabin but after my husband went ballistic on the gate attendant, fixed the problem. (we had asked nicely first).

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        05.16.12, 06:52 AM Flag
    • I know some people do not like Southwest but they absolutely do not allow this crap. I have been on more than one flight where they came on over the speaker and said we have a mom who needs to sit with her kids and this plane is not moving until that happens. People agree to move quickly.

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      05.15.12, 08:05 PM Flag
      • That's awesome. Wish they'd all do that. (Why don't some people like Southwest airlines, btw?)

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        05.16.12, 05:12 PM Flag
    • NP-I'm interested that this was posted. One of my good friends just posted about this on her blog. She's a NYC mom who is trying to bring national attention to this situation. http://disneywithchildren.com/2012/05/14/protect-our-children/ The more this gets passed on the more pressure the airlines will have on them to change this policy.

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      05.16.12, 07:29 AM Flag
    • we did it at 9

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  • [-]In bed at home with painful back injury. What are the top 3 TV series that you have watched in last 3 years?

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    • Mad Men, Justified, Nurse Jackie

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      05.16.12, 03:25 PM Flag
    • Breaking Bad, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Mad Men

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      05.16.12, 03:25 PM Flag
    • Modern Family, 30 Rock, Curb your enthusiasm

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      05.16.12, 03:26 PM Flag
    • Lie to Me is interesting and was missed by a lot of people.

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      05.16.12, 03:28 PM Flag
    • Downton Abbey, Mad Men, Weeds

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      05.16.12, 03:29 PM Flag
    • Mad Men, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Breaking Bad, Friday Night Lights, Arrested Development, Lie to Me, Enlightened. Hope you feel better. Save me some Vicodin!

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      05.16.12, 03:30 PM Flag
      • OP: thank you. I love Mad Men, Enlightened, Breaking bad, and curb your enthusiasm. I guess I better check out your other favorite shows.

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        05.16.12, 03:33 PM Flag
    • All of the below

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      05.16.12, 03:31 PM Flag
    • Enlightened, Island at War, 30 Rock

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      05.16.12, 03:31 PM Flag
    • The Wire, Mad Men, Walking Dead

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      05.16.12, 03:31 PM Flag
    • Mad Men, Modern Family, Downton Abbey

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      05.16.12, 03:31 PM Flag
    • Arthur

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      05.16.12, 03:33 PM Flag
    • Old one--X-Files, reruns of House.

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      05.16.12, 03:33 PM Flag
    • I don't know if these are my top choices, but if I were laid up, I might choose to watch Downton Abbey, The Good Wife, Castle, and Modern Family - the key to those choices is that the series are all totally different from each other!

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      05.16.12, 03:35 PM Flag
    • The Wire, The Wire, and The Wire. Nothing compares.

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      05.16.12, 03:42 PM Flag
    • Big love

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      05.16.12, 03:50 PM Flag
    • Once upon a time. Really love it. About fairy tale characters in our time. Received great reviews and the top show on ABC this season. If you like snow white, ect, you should watch the pilot. Its on line

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      05.16.12, 04:29 PM Flag
      • I really liked The Riches.

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  • [-]I have noticed this on Facebook. Someone dies and people leave messages on their wall. WTF? Do you do this? And why?

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    • no, but I don't judge other people for doing this

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      05.16.12, 04:36 PM Flag
    • On the deceased' wall? That's weird.

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      05.16.12, 04:37 PM Flag
    • How many of your facebook friends die? Weird

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      05.16.12, 04:37 PM Flag
    • I get LinkedIn requests from dead ppl too

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      05.16.12, 04:42 PM Flag
    • Yep. If we are the NY friends of person X and they die, leaving a message on their wall sends a message to their California friends (who we don't know by name and can't console person-to-person) that X was beloved.

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      05.16.12, 04:43 PM Flag
    • I don't think it's weird. A friend died and people from throughout his life posted photos, memories and wished his loved one well. I thought it was lovely. Especially good for those who can't attend the funeral or may have been friendly but not close or may have been close but at a different point in his life. A social media wake I guess.

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      05.16.12, 04:43 PM Flag
    • It's group remembrance. A memorial. It's nice for the family and friends to see their loved one being remembered.

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      05.16.12, 04:44 PM Flag
    • I don't really use facebook, so I wouldn't do this. But a friend (who was very active on facebook) recently died and there was a huge outpouring on df's wall - including people posting pictures, poems, info about memorial services, and questions/info re donating to a cause df cared about. It really changed my mind about this practice. It still struck me as odd, but it obviously was very healing for some people and in a weird way it created a community of df's friends (many of whom did not know each other directly), and was almost like an extended memorial service in and of itself, which was especially meaningful for people who couldn't make it to funeral.

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      05.16.12, 04:45 PM Flag
      • I agree with this. It's a weird new way of viewing FB but in this sense, I am all on board with it.

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        05.16.12, 04:52 PM Flag
    • This is the one reason I don't delete my FB profile entirely. It's composed of all sorts of photos and thoughts from the last 4 years where I want my kids to know my life was spent on them, even when 'I was in front of the computer' ... scrapbooks on the shelf can only say so much, and even then, will the kids fight over them? Who gets which one? A friend just told me and old BF and FB friend died last year and she still visits his page. I want that.

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      05.16.12, 04:50 PM Flag
      • np: However, I, myself, would like to be cremated ....

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        05.16.12, 04:51 PM Flag
    • I do this on my late husband's wall and I appreciate the occasional memories and pictures that his friends share on his wall.

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      05.16.12, 05:25 PM Flag
  • [-]If I were to become a runaway Mom, what town could I hide-out in for cheap?

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    • Toledo. I had an aunt that left her kids and ran away to Toledo. Talk about a lack of imagination.

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      05.16.12, 04:32 PM Flag
    • Reno, Nevada.

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      05.16.12, 04:33 PM Flag
    • Portland, ME. Or Woodstock, NY. How far away to you want to go?

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      05.16.12, 04:36 PM Flag
      • woodstock is not cheap - ulster country much cheaper

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        05.16.12, 04:37 PM Flag
        • ok, then, Lenox, MA

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          05.16.12, 04:41 PM Flag
          • Wherever Johnny Cakes hid out

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            05.16.12, 04:45 PM Flag
        • Woodstock is in Ulster County.

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          05.16.12, 04:59 PM Flag
    • Why are you running away?

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      05.16.12, 05:04 PM Flag
    • i tried to run away. i came back.

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      05.16.12, 05:09 PM Flag
      • FYI: your children will never forgive you. Ever. My dh's mother did this and she is dead to him and his brother.

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        05.16.12, 05:18 PM Flag
        • they are little, they won't remember. i came back.

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          05.16.12, 05:19 PM Flag
          • Better pray they never find out.

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            05.16.12, 05:21 PM Flag
            • i asked DH if I could go away for a while, he agreed. honestly, i feel like i made a good decision. i was close to having a nervous breakdown and not being the mom i wanted to be. i needed to get away, i went away, i came back.

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              05.16.12, 05:24 PM Flag
    • Can I come?

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  • [-]happily married, but i have a little crush on someone else. never going to go anywhere, just like the attention. i had to email him regarding our kids and am now checking my email about every 1/2 hour and disappointed to have nothing in there from him. such a sad little life.

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    • the teacher?

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      05.16.12, 12:41 PM Flag
      • no, father of my son's teammate.

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        05.16.12, 12:42 PM Flag
        • is he married or divorced?

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          05.16.12, 12:43 PM Flag
          • divorced, but i am married. this guy and i will never get together; neither of us is the type to lie and cheat. i just think he's smart and sexy and i can tell he thinks i'm attractive and likes my personality as well. i guess i'm just a little bored, but i love my husband and this is just fun for me. . . until it isn't fun, like now. sorry to sound so juvenile.

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            05.16.12, 12:46 PM Flag
            • +1

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              05.16.12, 12:46 PM Flag
              • so silly really. i don't even fantasize about sex with this guy. every once in a while, i think about what it might be like to kiss him or to hear him whisper something romantic in my ear, but mostly, i just like him. things are a little dull around my house lately (dh away alot, elderly MIL in the house), but i'd never do anything with the other man; it's just nice to know you have caught someone's eye, you know what i mean?

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                05.16.12, 12:49 PM Flag
                • Stop justifying it. We get you aren't going to do anything. It is a crush. No biggie

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                  05.16.12, 12:52 PM Flag
                • Why not take a chance? You will never be as sexy or as young as you are right now. I bet he fantasize's about you.

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                  05.16.12, 01:02 PM Flag
                  • i'll bet he does, but i don't want to do something bad or hurtful. i don't know what i want. i guess i just wish that my dh would make me feel this way.

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                    05.16.12, 01:04 PM Flag
                    • Then send him a provocative text and see where it leads. You know how excited the thought makes you. Flirting online or via text can be fun!

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                      05.16.12, 01:06 PM Flag
                    • You feel like most of us on ub.

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                      05.16.12, 01:15 PM Flag
    • I ma with you girl, I am in the same situation. LOL of course never going to go anywhere!

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      05.16.12, 12:44 PM Flag
    • Oh! I am on the same boat, I am happily married, he is married as well. but nothing crazy going on, I just like the attention :)

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      05.16.12, 12:47 PM Flag
    • Flame me but GO FOR IT. If your checking your email every 1/2 hour you know that you would like things to get all hot and steamy. Why not fan the flames and see whre it leads?

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      05.16.12, 12:51 PM Flag
      • besides the fact that i would not want to hurt my husband or engage in lying and sneaking, the fact is that this man is divorced and has nothing to lose, whereas i have a great deal at stake. i just miss having someone think about me like that.

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        05.16.12, 12:53 PM Flag
    • my husband likes it when I have crushes on other men.

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      05.16.12, 12:52 PM Flag
      • I'm with you on that one. Good fantasy material.

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        05.16.12, 12:53 PM Flag
        • op - my husband would not like it if he thought i had a crush, but he is always aware and a little amused/satisfied when he notices that another man seems attracted to me. it doesn't happen often, i'm no knockout, but sometimes, and my dh thinks it's kind of cool.

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          05.16.12, 12:58 PM Flag
          • Then make him jealous. Could spice things up.

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            05.16.12, 01:08 PM Flag
    • Place a post on craigslist's "Missed Connections" and anonymously spill your guts. People do it all the time. Might make you feel better.

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      05.16.12, 12:59 PM Flag
    • you guys are all idiots. grow the hell up.

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      05.16.12, 01:58 PM Flag
  • [-]Are there good men out there? Signed 40 year old scared mom

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    05.15.12, 07:27 PM Flag ]
    • all the good ones are taken or the good die young - take your pick

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      05.15.12, 07:28 PM Flag
    • There are good men out there. Keep looking.

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      05.15.12, 07:39 PM Flag
    • yes! signed mom who met dh @ 41.

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      05.15.12, 07:45 PM Flag
    • I think I just met a good one. I am 44.

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      05.15.12, 07:49 PM Flag
      • Op here to the 41 and 44 year olds - are you divorced? If so why did you divorce?? Thx!

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        05.15.12, 08:06 PM Flag
        • 44 year old here. Was in 10 year relationship, but not married for mutual reasons. Was told by Dr. I couldn't have kids. Got pregnant. Boyfriend wanted abortion, I wanted baby. He left. That was seven years ago. Dated a bit here and there. Met nice guys too, just didn't fall in love. This time feels different.

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          05.15.12, 09:04 PM Flag
    • Yeah, but TBH most of them want no part of raising/supporting some other guy's spawn. Too many other options. Good luck.

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      05.16.12, 06:06 AM Flag
      • The good part though, the guys who don't want to be around kids self select out. I would never ask anyone to help support my child. I find that the guys who are okay with dating a single mom seem to be more stable, nice guys.

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        05.16.12, 05:17 PM Flag
    • scared of what?

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      05.16.12, 05:19 PM Flag
    • I wasn't a mom, but met DH at 39.

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      05.16.12, 05:21 PM Flag
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