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  • [-]Discouraged about post-baby body. Was in really good shape, and even now am no slacker. But abs are just so stretched out, they don't hold my belly in like they should. I still look pregnant. I am doing all the right things, exercise-wise. When will this change?

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    11.06.09, 10:52 PM [ Flag ]
    • my trainer told me your abs never get back to where they were, especially if you've had C

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      11.07.09, 05:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • The only thing that snapped them back for me, is pilates. Sit ups etc made them worse some how.

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      11.07.09, 05:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP here-glad to know Pilates worked for you, I am a certified instructor:)God is laughing at me. But seriously, how long did it take?

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        11.07.09, 06:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • 3 months, 3 times a week, for 1/2 a hour. I only stuck to it though because I had a trainer. Too lazy to do it by myself. I also got into habit of mentally buttoning my belly button to my spine whenever I had to wait at a cross walk!

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          11.07.09, 06:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Your abdominal muscles might have separated. Mine did. To check, lie on your back and do a little crunch. If your stomach sinks in (like a hole) then your muscles have separated. It is called Diastasis Recti. Mine is extremely bad but I had twins and got super stretched out. I am trying to figure out how to correct it. I think I need surgery.

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      11.07.09, 06:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I had that, and did pilates with a sports medicine guy to correct it. Very specific exercises. My insurance paid for it, since I was diagnosed as having diastasis. It really worked, I was amazed, as my doctor was talking surgery to correct it.

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        11.07.09, 06:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • How bad was yours? Was it one small spot or did it extend all the way from top to bottom of abdomen? I am so discouraged about mine right now. It is hard to imagine that pilates or any exercise could correct it (not that I do not believe you - I am just feeling overwhelmed).

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          11.07.09, 07:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • It was big, also had hernia at belly button. I was amazed at the results, but I was made to work very hard by instructor, and it is very specific, small exercises for this condition, so definitely only try this approach with someone who knows what they are doing in terms of diastasis. You would be surprised how many trainers know nothing about it.

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            11.07.09, 07:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Okay. that is what I need to do. I have the belly button hernia too. I had that even from my first pg with singleton. What do I do? Go to my regular doctor for a diagnosis? Or OB? Not sure where to start. Gosh who will watch my kids while I go for treatments. I don't know if I can swing this. Maybe I need my mom to retire first. Can too much time pass before you begin?

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              11.07.09, 07:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • My dc was 2 before I got properly diagnosed. Go to Doctor, see if they will refer you to sports medicine, or therapist that your insurance accepts...If not, then pay for a session with good person once a month, and have them write notes for you on exactly what to do at home. All we ever used was one of those big rubber balls.

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                11.07.09, 07:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I thought that that was the case with my abs and then I did T-Tapp and my abs looked better than before (and I'd had a c-section).

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      11.07.09, 07:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Need to move to Boston area for DH's job. Any advice? Would we be miserable in the 'burbs? What towns have great schools? It would make the most sense for DH's commute to be south of the city.

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    11.05.09, 01:02 PM [ Flag ]
    • Friends who are international urban types and both WOH FT live in Weston and are happy and love the schools - kids are in later elementary school.

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      11.05.09, 01:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • how adaptable are you? how good are you with change? Hingham has a great school system.

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      11.05.09, 01:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP- Uh semi-adaptable? I'm already transitioning from a WOHM to SAHM. DH's new job involves a big raise. Does Hingham have public transit? The MBTA website is crap.

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        11.05.09, 01:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Hingham has a boat and a commuter rail. Excellent schools, adorable coastal town.

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          11.05.09, 02:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Yes it does. My husband grew up in Hingham and his family is still there. I go there a few times a year and it's really very pleasant. It's also just a few minutes from a decent beach and the Harbor is pleasant. Lots of beautiful, historic homes.

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          11.05.09, 02:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Boston native here. Newton has the best public schools (arguably in the country) and is convenient for commute to city. If you want to be more "in" the city and not compromise good schools, I'd check out Brookline. Westwood is also a great place for families and a little less jappy than Newton. Wellesley is lovely, too. I see someone rec. that above.

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      11.05.09, 01:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • my sister lives in brookline...great schools...i like the vibe of being part urban part suburban there that nyc doesn't really have (maybe parts of queens or brooklyn are similar)

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        11.05.09, 01:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ita with these two--Brookline and Newton. Wellesley and Weston and Hingham are nice but really, really suburban/far out. Brookline and Newton have great schools and nice walkable neighborhoods, good public trans. and they're not far at all from downtown Boston.

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          11.05.09, 02:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np: don't know about newton, but brookline is expensive. many who move farther out into greater suburbia do it to get more space, nicer house, etc.

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            11.05.09, 02:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • True, but like everywhere else the cost is due to the great schools, ditto Newton. And Wellesley and Weston are both $$$. Acton is nice, pretty suburban/rural and the schools are terrific, but it may be further west than you want. I'd definitely come and have a look around--all of these places are very different. I just prefer someplace like Brookline where you're not in the car all the time and kids have more freedom to roam around on their own once they're middle-school age.

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              11.05.09, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • brookline is a great place to raise kids, and newton would be too

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          11.06.09, 05:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Milton is lovely and south of the city but close in, although I don't think it's got a commuter rail station.

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      11.05.09, 02:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • South of boston: Hingham and Cohasset.

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      11.05.09, 02:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I learned that you can be miserable in the most wonderful place if you aren't open to the change. If this is a move you have to make then be sure your head is in the game. Good luck!

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      11.05.09, 02:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • best post of the evening.

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        11.05.09, 07:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP- I'm sure we'll be fine. Yes, I have to move but it will be good for the family. It's what's best for my DH and DD. I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of research we have to do at the moment.

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        11.06.09, 03:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Agree with the above if you want urban/suburban feel go with Newton or Brookline. Beautiful towns and excellent schools, a stone's throw from Boston, great restaurants, hospitals, etc.

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          11.06.09, 05:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Why not downtown? There are schools there, private for the most part though one or two publics ok. Concord, Lexington, Belmont, Arlington...good schools, some of these towns are better than others. Hingham is a terrible commute. I kind of wonder if anyone recommending the South Shore actually lives there and works? Newton is ok, I disagree that the schools are the best in the state, and Newton is so big that the schools are variable. Brookline is appallingly expensive though I would say the schools are the best in the state. The commute in and out of Brookline is not great, especially on public transport though depends where you work. If you mentioned where DH was commuting to might be able to help better. But most of the close lying suburb...

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      11.06.09, 07:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Places to live in Newton: City made up 13 villages--Waban, Chestnut Hill, West Newton Hill but there are other nice areas-->generally below the Pike and above Route 9. Below Route 9 has nice homes but it's a different vibe: way more suburdan, bus is only public transportation. Brookline is more urban. Newton is urban transitioning to suburban. As somebody said to me, if you have 1 kid, Brookline is OK. More than that, live in Newton. Newton schools are generally better than Brookline.

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        11.06.09, 08:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP- DH will probably be working in downtown (near South Station) for the most part but will also have an office in Quincy which is why I had initially said south.

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        11.06.09, 09:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I live in Boston, DC goes to Boston public schools--it's been an uneven experience but not the nightmare that many make it out to be. It just depends on what kind of culture you're looking for and I'm not getting enough from your post. Where do you live now and what do you like about it? Are you a Brooklyn type or a UES type? And btw, you're right about the MBTA site--you might have better luck if you just Google places you're interested in and then look for the T or commuter rail.

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          11.06.09, 09:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • We're on UWS right now. Pretty crunchy for UWS, though. Love being able to walk everywhere. Looking forward to taking my DD to museums, parks, the library. If we can find a town/neighborhood with a few decent not chain restaurants that would be great. I hate the idea of needing two cars but I don't want to limit our search based on what might be irrational fears. We're going to Boston next weekend to look around. Where do you live? I thought the Boston publics were not an option for us but maybe...

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            11.07.09, 07:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • DH will be downtown near South Station 4 days a week and in Quincy one day a week.

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        11.06.09, 09:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Anyone feel ostracized by fellow mothers at dc school? I dont know what I did (Im pretty normal), but the other moms def give me the cold shoulder.

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    11.06.09, 02:11 PM [ Flag ]
    • Yes.

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      11.06.09, 02:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • what school?

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      11.06.09, 02:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np lol. I'm sure OP doesn't want to out herself.

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        11.06.09, 02:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: fwiw naming the school will not out OP. people have a very self-important belief in what is identifying information on UB.

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          11.06.09, 02:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np If the moms giving her the cold shoulder are also talking about her behind her back (wouldn't be surprised), of COURSE posting the school could out her.

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            11.06.09, 03:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • how on earth could it out her, really? she has provided no other unique identifying information. her sense that she "feels" ostracized is not reality. it's a feeling. one shared by many of us.

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              11.06.09, 03:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • sometimes people are cold without meaning to be snobby. do you think you could be being too sensitive? it took a while for the other moms to warm up to me. volunteering or being on a committee is a good in.

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      11.06.09, 02:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I'm sure I am being sensitive. But I've been as nice as I can be without being overbearing. I'm not a cheerleader/joiner type person. I'll volunteer to be with my child, but not for activities that only raise funds for school. (time is precious and I dont need to prove to others Im a good mom. Just need to show dc.)

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        11.06.09, 02:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • There are usually a lot of things that you can do that are fun for you, benefit your child, and involve meeting other parents. I like science, so I'm on the science curriculum committee, for example. It's a nice way to meet other parents. Hard to tell from a short post, but you seem a little defensive. It's always harder to meet other people if you won't give joining a try! Why not find something that capitalizes on your strengths and interests? If you care enough about being liked by the other mothers to post here, it seems worthwhile to make a change.

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          11.06.09, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Im sure I am getting a little defensive. Im not real outgoing. I send dc to preschool for him to socialize, not me. But I guess we are viewed as a package deal. I wasnt good in this type of environment in HS and Im not good at it now.

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            11.06.09, 02:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I understand. Did he just start preschool? If so, after he makes friends and they start asking for playdates, you are bound to start getting to know other moms that way. I really wouldn't put too much stock into being popular at your kid's preschool, though! If it's not your thing, just keep telling yourself that you send him there to have a good time. You have your own friends, you don't need to be besties with the other moms if it doesn't feel natural!

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              11.06.09, 02:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • of course, some of these mothers are so uptight

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      11.06.09, 02:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • are you a wohm or a sahm? do you hang out after drop-off? do you volunteer? is it a big school where it's easy to get lost in the crowd? is this your first dc at the school? i think there are lots of reasons to feel like you aren't part of the community (and that's never any fun) but it usually isn't because all the other moms are deliberately snubbing you (though i'm sure there could be some).

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      11.06.09, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • last year was my first at a huge school and i found that volunteering and making an effort to host playdates made me feel more connected with the moms there. but those first couple of months were brutal!

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      11.06.09, 02:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Sure. I'm very shy and always have been. Most of the moms are natually social. I have always felt left out in group social settings and this is no different. Rather than trying to force myself to have a personality I never will, I just accept it. I don't think I'm being ostracized intentionally. They just do not know me and I make little effort to help them. Of course we aren't going to be close friends.

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      11.06.09, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Trying being a SAHD. The mothers at my DC's schools won't even acknowledge DH's existence.

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      11.06.09, 03:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • oh, brother. does dh volunteer? host playdates? introduce himself to other parents and chat after dropoff? or does he just expect the moms to throw himself at him because he has a p&nis?

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        11.06.09, 03:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Here, I will make you feel better: school was insanely traumatic for me. I cried every day throughout elementary and never recovered, separation anxiety followed me anywhere. I still feel some of the queasiness taking my kids to school (who mercifully don't). So, naturally, though I make a big effort, I feel I am just not part of the "in" crowd. Some mothers acknowledge me but they don't invite my dd to playdates, I have to do that, which is then not reciprocated. Plus, I am a good 15 years older than many of the mothers, and it shows. They are a different generation. It's awful b/c I don't want to perpetuate the same feelings I always had, but there you go. Other than that I am actually a very nice person and am known as such--the...

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      11.06.09, 03:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • NP: I am in the opposite boat. I am at least 10 years younger than all of the parents at my son's school! As you said, different generation. It can be tough.

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        11.06.09, 03:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: I wish we could meet and be friends irl. I feel like I am the only one who feels this way.

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        11.07.09, 07:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I know how you feel. I am incredibly shy. So far my ds doesn't seem to take after me in that way (sigh of relief). I have a difficult time mixing with other moms. I am a perfectly nice person with a wonderful dh and a few close friends. But I feel like the weird mom at ds social events. Also an older mom

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      11.06.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i would never even notice this.

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      11.06.09, 07:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Tonight I'm at a big mom's group function and making small talk with another mother. She asked me if I worked, which I do, I asked her if she worked and she said, "No, I'm a SAHM. I'm fortunate in that way." Do all SAHM's think that WOHM's work because they HAVE to?

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    11.06.09, 10:26 PM [ Flag ]
    • No, can't explain it at this hour- brain shut down, but I actually think she was trying to be polite, it just didn't really come out that way.

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      11.06.09, 10:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • When I tell some people I am a SAHM they respond negatively so someone once told me to rephrase it and say "I am fortunate that I get to stay at home with dc." It's not a slam to WOHM's but it is to protect us from getting slammed by others. There is really nothing bad you can say (at least I haven't heard anything) to somebody that says that.

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      11.06.09, 10:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Well, the way she phrased it implied that I was less fortunate. The way you phrase it above, is definitely different and non-offensive.

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        11.06.09, 10:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Could she have been saying that not everyone is lucky enough to stay home or was it something in her tone? I realize how fortunate I am to be able to SAH and know that not everyone is, of those who actually would want too. maybe she just didn't phrase it right. Although I realize not everyone is up to the challenge of taking on children full time, I am no stranger to the fact that it is not typical today. I try to be non-offensive whenever I can but maybe she was caught off guard, that's why I asked about her tone. It's not really what you say, it's HOW you say it!!!

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          11.07.09, 12:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I don't know, I find even this phrasing to be a bit judgey, actually. Why not just say" I am staying at home with the kids right now"

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        11.07.09, 06:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • don't be so sensitive. i think she simply meant that she chose to be a sahm and is fortunate that they can swing it financially.

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      11.07.09, 12:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Exactly. No need for you to be defensive. It wasn't necessarily about you.

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        11.07.09, 06:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ita. Sometimes it's hard to know where someone else is coming from and especially if you've just met. It was probably a mistake to word it that way, but I doubt she assumed anything or meant any offense. Fwiw, I say completely idiotic things every time I'm in a social situation. I get really nervous to meet people and always end up second guessing something I've said once I'm home.

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        11.07.09, 06:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I know an ues wohm with a pretty high powered job. The other moms at her dc's school think it's "cute" that she works!

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      11.07.09, 06:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Yes, it's the whole SAHM superiority/inferiority complex.

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      11.07.09, 06:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think that unless she said something overtly offensive, I would give her the benefit of the doubt. SHE feels fortunate that she gets to stay at home. Others feel unfortunate that they can't afford to WOH due to the cost of childcare and their earning potential. Others feel fortunate that they CAN afford childcare and don't have to SAH. Others feel unfortunate that they cannot afford to SAH.

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      11.07.09, 06:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]I feel for the Muslims in this country in light of the recent shooting coverage.

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    11.06.09, 11:27 AM [ Flag ]
    • It's like being Catholic during the priest scandal or black any time Al Sharpton opens his mouth.

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      11.06.09, 11:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I agree. And also, I feel a little for the shooter, who must have been going through something terrible, who must have been so terrified of being deployed that he thought this was his best option.

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      11.06.09, 11:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I was happy to see at least two Muslim American groups issue statements denouncing his actions.

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      11.06.09, 11:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Me too. Ironic that he worked for so many years helped people with post traumatic stress disorder, and now his actions have caused so much. Apparently he was an amazing psychiatrist.

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      11.06.09, 12:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Given what he ultimately did, how can you say he was an amazing psychiatrist?

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        11.06.09, 01:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Many people who have been treated by him, or worked with him, have been quoted as saying what a great doctor he was. He just snapped.

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          11.07.09, 05:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np well duh, I think the irony was the point. His patients said he was an amazing psychiatrist. How can someone who never met him contradict that?

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          11.07.09, 05:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • news reports say that he had received bad performance reviews from the Army at multiple points in his career.

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        11.07.09, 06:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • The maker of the upcoming apocalyptic film "2012" has conceded he enjoyed orchestrating the visual disintegration of the world's religious symbols, such as the Vatican and the famous statue of Jesus overlooking Rio de Janeiro. But he left an Islamic symbol alone because he feared the reaction from the Muslim world. Roland Emmerich said he had considered including the destruction of the Kaaba, the cube-shaped structure in Mecca worshiped by Muslims as being built by Abraham and his son Ishmael. "Well, I wanted to do that, I have to admit," Emmerich said. "But my co-writer Harald [Kloser] said I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie. And he was right. ... We have to all ... in the Western world ... think about this." ...

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      11.06.09, 01:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Okay, did you put in all those ellipses? Because if so, I'd like to see the actual quote.

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        11.06.09, 01:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Just do a search on "2012 movie emmerich kaaba" and you'll see it. Sorry to disturb your anti-western, anti-Judeo-Christian attitude.

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          11.07.09, 04:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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