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  • [-]Is there such a thing as "spirited" children? Anytime someone says their kid is "spirited", I always see an out of control, loud, forceful child. Can someone enlighten me?

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    09.04.09, 04:23 AM [ Flag ]
    • spirited child = brat

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      09.04.09, 04:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • ds is a ball of energy and i spend my time corralling or redirecting. parents who don't try to control the energy use "spirited" as an excuse.

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      09.04.09, 05:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i think your definition is spot on. i was going to say, ime, "spirited"=unruly

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      09.04.09, 05:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Well, there are kids who are harder to manage. It is better to say spirited than difficult or bad. The only issue is if the parent uses that word as an excuse not to try to manage the kid. My kid is easy to manage so I try not to judge.

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      09.04.09, 05:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • thanks-makes me feel better-the one mother is a former teacher who is now a stay at home mom and says that her children are 'spirited' and this usually happens at the same time I want to punch the little girl in the nose. Personally I think a swift swat on the behind would do these two good. My children are not "spirited"-they can just be "rambunctious" at times...

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      09.04.09, 05:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Of course, there is such a thing as "spirited" children. Just because some parents may use it as an excuse not to parent their children does not mean that there aren't children who by nature are more persistent, sensitive, active, etc. I agree with above poster who said it's a more positive label than "difficult." My ds is what I would call spirited insofar as he can be difficult to redirect because he gets very focused/fixated on an idea and is very high energy. He's not aggressive and people find him to be quite sweet, but I battle every day with getting him to listen when it's time to leave what he's doing to do something else. Reading a book about it right now and finding the tactics in the book work better than others I've read in o...

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      09.04.09, 05:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • People picked up the term from the book "Raising Your Spirited Child". My ds fit the definition perfectly. But when one actually reads the book there is a sentence which reads "being spirited does not entitle one to be a jerk." There's a lot of good advice in the book about setting boundaries, helping kids transition and getting kids to recognize and manage their energy and impulses as they get older.

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      09.04.09, 06:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • maybe I'll read it to understand these kids.

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        09.04.09, 06:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think if your child is described as "spirited", it could mean they are somewhat willful in the classroom. To help with this, a "spirited" child needs steady, focused routines so he/she knows what to expect and what the general rules are. That's why routines work well with young children (and older ones too).

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          09.04.09, 06:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • These people have no "routine" or "schedule"-maybe that is why? The only "routine" is that there isn't one.

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            09.04.09, 07:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • This isn't worth a response, but I'll give you 2 sentences. 1. Read the book and stop leaping to conclusions. 2. My ds had a very regular schedule and we were very consistent with discipline, but that doesn't change a child's basic temperament.

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              09.04.09, 07:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Yes, thank you. I have used the word "spirited" to warn preschool teachers that my ds is going to need more guidance about the need to sit still and be quiet. Doesn't mean we aren't teaching him these things -- we are.

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                09.04.09, 07:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I used to say that it's like strenghtening a muscle. Some kids will pick up the social cues and conform without seeming effort, other kids need to specially focus on and exercise those abilities to develop them.

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                  09.04.09, 07:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Preschool age? All DSs are like that....

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                  09.04.09, 09:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I was responder above with 3.6 yo and I totally agree with you. I am reading this book too and am already coming up with strategies for dealing with some of our challenges. These strategies work better than others I've seen in other books, and the truth is my boy is a good natured, sweet kid. Each kid has their challenges whether it's being shy, or high energy or whatever.

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        09.04.09, 09:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think people may use this when their kids are very high-energy and daring, also very talkative. I don't think this always equates to spoiled -- spoiled to me means a kid who's rude and self-centered -- the two sets of characteristics don't always go together.

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      09.04.09, 07:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ita. i think it's a good description for kids that are adventurous, curious, willing to try things, high energy, etc. all very positive qualities but they can be hard to harness and hard to parent a kid like that. i think that's why 'spirited' has become synonymous (or at least a euphemism) for "bratty" or "uncontrollable".

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        09.04.09, 07:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think of my son as spirited, he's not rude or out of control. He has a lot of energy and jumps into everything with both feet. He talks to everyone and is thankful and friendly. I am a strict parent and I do not allow spoiled behavior.

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      09.04.09, 07:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • of course there is...it's a personality trait...the trite answers above that attempt to assign the entire concept to neglectful parenting miss the point completely...children have personalities just like adults do...some are gentler, some are shier, some are friendlier, some are more active, some are more sedentary, and yes, some are more spirited (wild, stubborn, etc.)...of course this should mean more effort for the parent rather than merely an excuse for bad behavior...but yes, some kids are clearly more spirited than others

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      09.04.09, 09:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]need an external view. Divorced - single mom of a 5 year old. Since divorced in 2 serious relationships and both ended. What am I doing wrong? I guess the wrong men for me? successful, hardworking powerful woman...I guess I need to find an older man??? Not sure if I'm up for that?

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    08.22.09, 03:38 PM [ Flag ]
    • you didnt say how long the relationships lasted and why but no matter how great you might be and how great the guy is--you have a 5 year old. you are a package deal..........not sure what to say without more info...

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      08.22.09, 03:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I am 31. I was with my ex husband for 9 years. after this had very serious relationship (was going to get married/were together 8 monthts) guy was 32 I was30. this last one 1.5 years. Guy is 31.

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        08.22.09, 03:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • sorry but 8 months does not a serious relationship make! Personally it sounds like you want a relationship more than you want it to be with the right man. Try to just enjoy dating take your time and see what develops.

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          08.23.09, 05:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • how old are you and how old were your boyfriends? did you see the end coming?

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      08.22.09, 03:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • for the first one after divorced - did not see the end coming at all. this last one yes unfortunently...the guy is a good guy but I am too powerful...this I think is the problem in all my past relationships - I am too powerful (make more money, busy, hard working etc)(

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        08.22.09, 03:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • the guy is a good guy but you are too powerful....are you kidding me? money and power certainly do not define love. Did it occur to you that probably you are a little too self centered? just a thought.

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          08.22.09, 04:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Watching post...Kinda in the same boat. My dd is 2 1/2 and I'm a sahm. Haven't tried dating yet.

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      08.22.09, 03:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You do not go into a relationship expecting marriage and happy endings. Great if it happens, but make your life great without any man

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      08.22.09, 03:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I guess...Im pretty serious about wanting to get remarried and more kids though...I guess you are right.

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        08.22.09, 03:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You might not have done anything wrong. Some relationships are best if of limited duration.

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      08.22.09, 03:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • yeah but Im worried that the rest of my life is going to be like this - short stints with many men which is not what I want...I would like a life long partner

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        08.22.09, 03:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • make your life without a man. If one fits in- that's great. Otherwise you will drag db through wrong relationships

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          08.22.09, 04:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You don't need to find an older man, you need to find the right man. Some men, regardless of age, are not attracted to powerful women. Also, the fact that you have been divorced will lead some men to wonder whether your "powerful" trait was a factor in your splitting up, and whether it could happen to them. And then there's the dc, which is an additional handicap, if you will. This is not to say the right guy isn't out there for you. But he will be harder to find--the pool is smaller.

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      08.22.09, 04:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • theres a great book, a classic really in terms of self-help. "It's called keeping the love you find" By Harville Hendrix. It talks about how we keep making the same mistakes in every relationship and that this is more intentional than we think. There is a pattern here and you work through breaking the cycle of failed relationships by uncovering the pattern.

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      08.22.09, 04:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I've always found that love finds you when you stop hunting for it. Enjoy your life, pursue hobbies you like and you will find someone who is right for you.

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      08.23.09, 05:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • sign on to one of the online dating matches and you may just find someone who is well matched with a successful, hardworking powerful woman, as you describe yourself to be.

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      08.23.09, 05:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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