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PSD just asked us what our plans are if we get shutout. SHUTOUT? isn't this what I just paid you almost $60K over the last 3 years to prevent from happening?

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  • PSD just asked us what our plans are if we get shutout. SHUTOUT? isn't this what I just paid you almost $60K over the last 3 years to prevent from happening?

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    01.27.12, 08:08 AM Flag ]
    • you're crazy if you think you can just pay the 30K per year and expect to walk into any school. People do get "shut out" and you'll need plan.

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      01.27.12, 08:10 AM Flag
    • Psds are facilitators. They can't force any school to take a particular kid. Are there behavior problems or poor erb?

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      01.27.12, 08:10 AM Flag
      • Or are you a pita? Judging by your attitude,you are a parent no one would want to deal with.

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        01.27.12, 08:12 AM Flag
        • OR Yes, that crossed my mind, too (I guess I should have specific parent or child behavior probs!).

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          01.27.12, 08:14 AM Flag
    • Were you demanding tt schools? Did you apply broadly?

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      01.27.12, 08:15 AM Flag
    • private preschool is not a guarantee for a spot at a private ongoing. I know someone who as shut out and had to go to her zone public.

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      01.27.12, 08:16 AM Flag
      • The Horror

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        01.27.12, 08:18 AM Flag
        • or: it's not a horror but it was for this person. She was LIVID that the PSD didn't do more to get her dc a spot.

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          01.27.12, 08:22 AM Flag
          • I love when people get what they deserve.

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            01.27.12, 08:24 AM Flag
            • I told her to apply broadly but she didn't. Only applied to 3 schools. That's INSANE to apply to 3 schools and think you will have your pick.

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              01.27.12, 08:26 AM Flag
      • Oh the horror! Did she get poor on her? Did someone smudge her birkin?

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        01.27.12, 08:19 AM Flag
    • I understand your concern but you can't assume that any preschool can guarantee access to the schools you chose. That may be more a function of the type and number of schools you applied to. Plus it's still important to have some sort of plan if all else fails.

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      01.27.12, 08:17 AM Flag
      • Like moving. People like this need to go.

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        01.27.12, 08:20 AM Flag
    • ERB scores and birth month? Is the list top heavy and are you trying for co-ed schools?

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      01.27.12, 08:18 AM Flag
      • 82 ERB and February.

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        01.27.12, 08:21 AM Flag
        • np: did you apply to progressives that don't require the ERBs?

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          01.27.12, 08:25 AM Flag
        • With those erbs you should have applied to less prestigious schools - you shouldn't blame the psd for your overreaching.

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          01.27.12, 10:47 AM Flag
      • Ask PSD for guidance if you only want private. Your type of the PSD is typically the kind that will try to help you. I sort of agree with your PSD

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        01.27.12, 09:56 AM Flag
    • Did you have safeties in your list?

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      01.27.12, 08:18 AM Flag
      • MM and CSH

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        01.27.12, 08:21 AM Flag
        • Those were your SAFETIES? LOL

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          01.27.12, 08:23 AM Flag
        • OP. if you are serious then you deserve to be shut out.

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          01.27.12, 08:26 AM Flag
        • these are by far safeties. Your local public is as safe as you can get in this procedure

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          01.27.12, 08:28 AM Flag
          • they are "by far" safeties? Are you insane?

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            01.27.12, 08:28 AM Flag
            • I meant to say they are NOT safeties..it was a typo

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              01.27.12, 08:31 AM Flag
              • Oh ok, makes sense then :)

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                01.27.12, 08:33 AM Flag
        • Applying next year so I have no skin in this game. Butis it true that with 82 ERBs CSH and MM should be considered safeties?

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          01.27.12, 08:28 AM Flag
          • the fact is with any NYC Private school, there are way more dcs applying than spots and IMO there are no safety schools any longer. The so called lower tier schools fill those spots up without an issue. So apply broadly

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            01.27.12, 08:30 AM Flag
          • MM maybe. CSH no way. But I don't think you can even think in terms of ANY school being a safety with an 82 erb. If she wanted private with that score, she should have applied to 15 schools.

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            01.27.12, 08:32 AM Flag
            • np: No way, MM has preschool so not that many spots, they can get girls with 90+. Unless OP's DD brings something else to the table, it is a reach. Even Hewitt is not really a safety with 82 ERBs.

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              01.27.12, 08:37 AM Flag
              • Hijack. What could that "soemthing else" be? A second language? Diversity? Personality?

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                01.27.12, 08:39 AM Flag
                • Diversity, or major donor money, celebrity of some sort, connections

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                  01.27.12, 09:06 AM Flag
              • I guess she didn't. And mom seems a little wacky, too.

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                01.27.12, 08:40 AM Flag
              • nnp: Marymount for many people is one of their top choices.

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                01.27.12, 09:39 AM Flag
            • what is MM and CSH?

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              01.27.12, 10:36 AM Flag
          • absolutely not. signed, btdt

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            01.27.12, 04:16 PM Flag
        • CSH was our safety--but our kid had extremely high scores. You were NUTS to think this would work out, imo.

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          01.27.12, 08:28 AM Flag
          • In retrospect, were you right in considering it a safety? Just curious. We love the school and it may well be our FC next year.

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            01.27.12, 08:38 AM Flag
            • Yes. We wanted ss, but would have taken co-ed over both CSH and NBS.

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              01.28.12, 08:53 AM Flag
        • MM and CSH are not safety schools. That's why your PSD is asking you this. Why didn't you apply broadly?

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          01.27.12, 09:32 AM Flag
          • MM is not any more a safety school than CSH. To those of you applying next year be sure to understand this. The only caveat is if you are a Billionaire, offer a very special kind of diversity and or have a board level connection. This, by the way, is the reality for all seven girls school, all seven. The rules are different if you fit in one of these categories no matter which school you are considering.

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            01.27.12, 07:47 PM Flag
    • And this is why expensive preschool is a racket. There are no assurances and you really should not have assumed that because you paid $60k your kid would get into a very selective and competitive school. I sincerely hope you are not shut out. But there are a very limited number of spots and lots and lots of applicants.

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      01.27.12, 08:21 AM Flag
    • I think it is HARDER from a connected preschool- they broker you.

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      01.27.12, 08:21 AM Flag
      • ita.

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        01.27.12, 08:25 AM Flag
      • this is a very good point. Connected preschools certainly can place a number of kids in the top schools, but it's going to be sibling and legacy first. So if you are none of the above you'll get less help from the PSD than you would in a less connected preschool where a lot of parents want public and the PSD can focus on a much smaller number of children to place. At least this is our opinion.

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        01.27.12, 08:36 AM Flag
    • I'm a public school mom, but I agree with OP. These preschools justify their ridiculous pricetag with the (unmentioned) understanding that PSD will help with exmissions. In fact, even if the OP is a PITA, who cares? It's about the kid. If the kid (or family, I guess) is going to have trouble being admitted somewhere, the PSD should have talked to OP a year ago, or at least during the application time. It's nonsense to ask this question now.

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      01.27.12, 08:23 AM Flag
      • It is a numbers game,there are far more children than spots and getting in has little do with you or your kids or your school. It is luck,connections,money and prestige.

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        01.27.12, 08:27 AM Flag
        • So, isn't the PSD supposed to know this and ADVISE parents about this? That's supposed to be their expertise. Telling someone in January that they need to think about public school? Hey, I can offer that advice, too, and guess what? I'll only charge $5,000, not $20,000.

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          01.27.12, 08:31 AM Flag
          • I'm sorry,but doesn't everyone know this? Every single article says this ad nauseum.

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            01.27.12, 08:51 AM Flag
      • I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that PSD probably advised them to apply broadly and they didn't. MM and CSH as safety schools? That's a huge risk, even with good ERB scores.

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        01.27.12, 09:33 AM Flag
    • where is your child? I fear we may be in the same boat..

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      01.27.12, 08:24 AM Flag
    • I know a mom at dc preschool, who applied to 15 schools and was shutout and to make matters worst she has has a dd at a private and they didn't accept the sibling

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      01.27.12, 08:25 AM Flag
      • They must hate her or the kid has SN.

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        01.27.12, 08:28 AM Flag
        • Um- if they rejected your younger sibling, it means they don't want your family. read between the lines, unless your child bombed the ERB & playdates

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          01.27.12, 08:38 AM Flag
    • You really believe money can buy you guarantees?

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      01.27.12, 08:25 AM Flag
      • They do. That is why they throw a tantrum when they can't get what they want.

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        01.27.12, 08:30 AM Flag
        • I don't understand those kinds of people. They must have a very hard life to deal with all these unfulfilled entitlements.

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          01.27.12, 08:33 AM Flag
      • np If she had big bucks (tuition is nothing), her 82 would be headed to fc tt. I know of a kid who got into parents' fc school on account of promise of big donations. Kid would have been at 4th tier (if that) without that money. Just the way it (occasionally) goes.

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        01.27.12, 08:38 AM Flag
    • Is there a reason for this quesiton? The PSD may just want to know if you have a plan. Though this is a question she should have asked you when you applied.

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      01.27.12, 08:32 AM Flag
    • Enjoy the next 12 years, and see what your top notch school tells you at college prep time. Friends' family member went to a ss tt school. Got "shut out" of all colleges she applied to, why? B/c she didn't do safety at all. Wahhhh.

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      01.27.12, 08:42 AM Flag
      • Not that I necessarily disagree, but "a friend's family member" is hardly statistical proof of your theory.

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        01.27.12, 09:04 AM Flag
        • I don't have a theory. I have an anecdote. Did I say I had a theory?

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          01.27.12, 09:08 AM Flag
      • actually i think that is odd - the one thing private schools do do is control where you apply to college. publics don't - so easier to get shut out from public

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        01.27.12, 09:36 AM Flag
      • I've never heard of anyone getting shut out from college from a TT school. They are pretty direct about where the kids should apply. Did she end up somewhere?

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        01.27.12, 10:16 AM Flag
        • np: i agree, although there are kids who fall through the cracks. i went to a tt boarding shcool and i had a friend who was: top 10% of the class with 1550 SATs (out of 1600 back then!) and captain of 2 varsity sports teams (one of which was a more unique sport for women), plus a bunch of other extras. she was counseled to apply to 2 ivies and 2 strong 2nd tier schools. she's someone who likes to have fall backs and applied to 2 safeties in addition to what they'd recommended. well, she ended up ONLY getting into those safeties - not even WL at the other 4. her college counselor really had no explanation for her. I think that she looked like such a strong applicant that they didn't think they'd have to work for her. who knows? and this was in an era when my school was getting 20% of the graduating class into HYP and another 20% into the rest of the ives plus Stanford, MIT, etc.

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          01.27.12, 10:23 AM Flag
      • But with college you just apply next year after a gap year in Europe, no?

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        01.27.12, 10:32 AM Flag
    • you are funny or really living in a cave.

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      01.27.12, 09:32 AM Flag
    • no. you paid the ransom in advance hoping you wouldn't get kidnapped.

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      01.27.12, 04:17 PM Flag
    • The best part about this whole thread is that I am the OP. I have not responded once until now. And I can assume that my PSD will get me in, We have great scores and a great kid and no are not PITA. We applied to 10 schools. She had better get us into one.

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      01.27.12, 04:35 PM Flag
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