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Is it common for Jewish people to not vaccinate for religious reasons?
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02.09.10, 07:15 AM [ Flag ]
- not really
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  02.09.10, 07:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - well the majority of children/adults who have come down with the mumps are orthodox i think that's why the op asked.
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    02.09.10, 07:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - what shocked me was that nearly half of the people diagnosed with it HAD been immunized.
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      02.09.10, 07:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - Um yeah, because immunization doesn't fully work unless everyone is immunized. That's the point. It's called herd immunity.
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        02.09.10, 07:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        i don't think people know that.
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        02.09.10, 07:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        That's the problem. People say they don't care about the general public, they only care about their own kid.
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        02.09.10, 08:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        sorry, misposted below, but that's not entirely accurate.
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        02.09.10, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        and I replied to you below.
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        02.09.10, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - is there a difference between orthodox and hasidic? i assume one is a subset of the other
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      02.09.10, 07:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - hasidism is a particularly religious sect of orthodoxy...most orthodox are not hasidic
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        02.09.10, 07:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        that's what i thought. do the hasidim vaccinate?
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        02.09.10, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        i have no idea
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        02.09.10, 07:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        yes. maybe they are foreign born people who didn't.
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        02.09.10, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        yes. there are no medical prohibitions.
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        02.09.10, 08:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        thanks. i had assumed that, but wasn't sure.
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        02.09.10, 08:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - that's not entirely accurate. there's a herd immunity threshold for every disease, but vaccines are not 100% efficicacious.
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        02.09.10, 08:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        That's right, they arenot 100% effective in any given individual. That's why and individual's immunity depends on herd immunity. A vaccine may not be 100% effective in one person, but if everyone gets the vaccine, then there IS 100% immunity. That's how smallpox was eradicated worldwide -- everyone in the world, for two generations, was immunized until there were no more cases of smallpox to catch. Now, nobody has to be immunized because smallpox doesn't exist in the community. signed, public health professional
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        02.09.10, 08:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        i thought the thresholds were more like 85%.
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        02.09.10, 08:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        OR: It depends how prevalent the disease is in the community. If it is very prevalent, 85% immunization rates would not be enough. For a rarer disease, 85% might be enough. There's no blanket percentage.
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        02.09.10, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- no. not at all. and reading the posts below, i want to just add it is not common among "hasidim" either. (I am an orthodox mom who also happens to be a physician. this is NOT common)
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  02.09.10, 08:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- I'm not Jewish. But I thought in order to get into a daycare, or school setting a child has to be up to date on all vaccinations. I'm a government employee and I had to bring my shot records in by a certain date or face termination. I live in Washington D.C. Is this not common practice in other areas?
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  02.09.10, 08:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - yes, it is necessary. but there are doctors who lie for them. they say that the child is allergic to eggs or has some other condition that wouldn't allow the kid to be vaccinated.
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    02.09.10, 08:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - ohhhh ok. thank you
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      02.09.10, 08:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - you are allowed to decline vaccinations.
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      02.09.10, 08:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - you either have to bring that or bring some indication that you don't vaccinate
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    02.09.10, 08:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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Is it common for Jewish people to not vaccinate for religious reasons?

not really

well the majority of children/adults who have come down with the mumps are orthodox i think that's why the op asked.

what shocked me was that nearly half of the people diagnosed with it HAD been immunized.

Um yeah, because immunization doesn't fully work unless everyone is immunized. That's the point. It's called herd immunity.

i don't think people know that.

That's the problem. People say they don't care about the general public, they only care about their own kid.

sorry, misposted below, but that's not entirely accurate.

and I replied to you below.

is there a difference between orthodox and hasidic? i assume one is a subset of the other

hasidism is a particularly religious sect of orthodoxy...most orthodox are not hasidic

that's what i thought. do the hasidim vaccinate?

i have no idea

yes. maybe they are foreign born people who didn't.

yes. there are no medical prohibitions.

thanks. i had assumed that, but wasn't sure.

that's not entirely accurate. there's a herd immunity threshold for every disease, but vaccines are not 100% efficicacious.

i thought the thresholds were more like 85%.

OR: It depends how prevalent the disease is in the community. If it is very prevalent, 85% immunization rates would not be enough. For a rarer disease, 85% might be enough. There's no blanket percentage.

no. not at all. and reading the posts below, i want to just add it is not common among "hasidim" either. (I am an orthodox mom who also happens to be a physician. this is NOT common)

yes, it is necessary. but there are doctors who lie for them. they say that the child is allergic to eggs or has some other condition that wouldn't allow the kid to be vaccinated.

ohhhh ok. thank you

you are allowed to decline vaccinations.

you either have to bring that or bring some indication that you don't vaccinate

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