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Based on the Ivy exmissions post, Brearley is a better school than Chapin?
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11.20.09, 06:36 AM [ Flag ]
- Br. alum and ivy admission percentages in any year whether a school drops a few points or goes up a few points means nothing when it comes to all the schools in that league. People here who think these schools are only worthwhile because of the number of DCs that go to Harvard one year as opposed to another are sending their DCs there for the wrong reasons. Do remember that we are talking about a class of 45 children, so if one more one year goes to Yale than another school who cares, it doesn't make Br, a 'better' school than Chapin anymore than Chapin would be a 'better' school three years ago for having put more DCs in Yale one year than Br. Also remember there are a number of dcs at those schools who get into ivy and don't always choose that route.
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  11.20.09, 06:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - I think the number of college legacies throw all of these comparsions out the window.
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    11.20.09, 06:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - You are wrong. College legacies are really nothing these days. I understand people want to believe that though, but the truth is difference in education. Not saying intelligence necessarily but education and preparedness overall to perform.
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      11.20.09, 07:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - I really don't believe that college legacies are nothing.
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        11.20.09, 07:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I am sure you believe that, but I am on the other side of the fence so my perspective is different and not as skewed toward wanting or needing to believe otherwise. Millions of dollars may make a difference but it would have to be a considerable sum. Not that people that wealthy or willing even here, and coming from those schools you don't really need it
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        11.20.09, 07:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I'm not saying that legacy status guarantees an in, or that you can't get in without it. I'm saying it gives you a leg up. Do you really think that H would have such a healthy endowment if this were not true? That every donor is a selfless philanthropist who believes in the school even if their kids can't get in?
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        11.20.09, 07:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Getting your Chapin dd into Harvard when she already has a very good shot at it on her own merit does not account for the majority of endowment
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        11.20.09, 07:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        you must agree that between two equally qualified candidates the legacy will get preference...
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        11.20.09, 07:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        No I really don't, I have seen it happen a lot, you cannot always account for a colleges decision year to year. The board may want diversity geographical or racial, they may want more activities, fewer, more arts, more science. Really not every candidate qualified as they are has the exact same strengths.
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        11.20.09, 07:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I did college admissions for many years at one of the most competitive in the country. I agree in principal with what you're saying, but I also must tell you that any kind of name recognition IS a good thing for a candidate. It adds weight on the scales.
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        11.20.09, 07:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        And so name recognition like Collegiate didn't stand out? Come on.
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        11.20.09, 07:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I question the veracity of your statement that you did admissions at college, but if you did it sounds as if it was not an Ivy where perhaps endowment means much more.
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        11.20.09, 07:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        not an Ivy but as competitive as an Ivy if not more. I meant name recognition as in family name.
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        11.20.09, 07:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I know what you meant, and I am saying the school name means much more. You can bank on the success rate of how well a student from any of these schools will do in any college.
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        11.20.09, 07:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        More competitive than an ivy. Goodness, a super ivy?
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        11.20.09, 07:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        must be REED!
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        11.20.09, 07:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        hahahahaha
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        11.20.09, 07:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I agree with that too, but again I said equally qualified candidates. Don't agree, however, with your statement on success rate. Some of these kids are really burnt out by the time they reach college.
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        11.20.09, 07:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        yeah, imagine that. Sheesh
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        11.20.09, 07:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        We were and they still are, some but not the majority. Even the overtaxed ones performed and had the base skills to perform at a higher level with little effort. You must know that to be true. Maybe not an A student but B without much study Now whether that is worth it to waste a spot on the student is the call of the college and can be determined as the student continues but overall that they will perform is not a question.
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        11.20.09, 07:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        ^^^ based on what do you question my veracity? I am trying to inform you, from my extensive experience, that official policy does not match what actually goes on in the process.
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        11.20.09, 07:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I have been involved with admissions on the other end and this does not seem credible to me at all
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        11.20.09, 07:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        believe what you want then. It's common for people to ignore information which doesn't square with what they want to think.
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        11.20.09, 07:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Well said from someone doing the exact same thing
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        11.20.09, 07:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        If that is true than why did you post your comment OP? So full of it.
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        11.20.09, 07:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - Maybe in the 60s, not any longer
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      11.20.09, 07:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - I know a (large) family who has had several generations, I mean every single one of them, go to H
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        11.20.09, 07:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        So do I. I also know another family that for four generations have gone to H, until the most recent who didn't have the grades and went to a UC
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        11.20.09, 07:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - I went to H for college, graduated in the late 90s. I had 4 roommates, all of whom were legacies.
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        11.20.09, 10:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Is the point of this post to rile the troops? Brearley, Spence, and Chapin are all excellent schools and they jockey for top honors into HYP every year but the two or three more each year makes no difference and means nothing. If dc is in one of those schools you should count yourself as lucky.
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  11.20.09, 07:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - but at least a handful of those will be murdoch, kennedy, bloomberg, etc. i don't think they count.
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    11.20.09, 07:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - another Brearley hater I see. You cannot get through Brearley on a name, you need the brain. You may be able to get in with a name but you will not finish.
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      11.20.09, 07:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - huh? i am not a B hater. i don't even know what you are talking about? i have no opinion on any of these girls schools! lol.
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        11.20.09, 07:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        The point is that you know nothing about these schools so why comment.
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        11.20.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        omg. what is wrong with you. all of those people had dds who went or currently go to ss schools. and their dds will get into top colleges even if they graduate from a no-name school anywhere in the country. are all B moms this paranoid and defensive?
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        11.20.09, 08:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        ^^^ and BTW, the bloomberg/kennedy post was my first in this thread.
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        11.20.09, 08:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - BS. Brearley is a celeb/billionaire whore beyond even Dalton. Doubt the girls from these families ALL have high 99x3 erbs and SBs to match.
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        11.20.09, 06:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - agree completely. the gradu
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    11.20.09, 06:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - the graduating classes are quite small so one or two students in either direction moves the %s. they're all about the same in quality. different parents, cultures perhaps but not education
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      11.20.09, 06:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Prize for most obvious post of the day.
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  11.20.09, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- you know admission season is heating up when the Brearley v. Chapin war begins.
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Based on the Ivy exmissions post, Brearley is a better school than Chapin?

I think the number of college legacies throw all of these comparsions out the window.

You are wrong. College legacies are really nothing these days. I understand people want to believe that though, but the truth is difference in education. Not saying intelligence necessarily but education and preparedness overall to perform.

I really don't believe that college legacies are nothing.

Getting your Chapin dd into Harvard when she already has a very good shot at it on her own merit does not account for the majority of endowment

you must agree that between two equally qualified candidates the legacy will get preference...

I did college admissions for many years at one of the most competitive in the country. I agree in principal with what you're saying, but I also must tell you that any kind of name recognition IS a good thing for a candidate. It adds weight on the scales.

And so name recognition like Collegiate didn't stand out? Come on.

I question the veracity of your statement that you did admissions at college, but if you did it sounds as if it was not an Ivy where perhaps endowment means much more.

not an Ivy but as competitive as an Ivy if not more. I meant name recognition as in family name.

I know what you meant, and I am saying the school name means much more. You can bank on the success rate of how well a student from any of these schools will do in any college.

More competitive than an ivy. Goodness, a super ivy?

must be REED!

hahahahaha

I agree with that too, but again I said equally qualified candidates. Don't agree, however, with your statement on success rate. Some of these kids are really burnt out by the time they reach college.

yeah, imagine that. Sheesh

^^^ based on what do you question my veracity? I am trying to inform you, from my extensive experience, that official policy does not match what actually goes on in the process.

I have been involved with admissions on the other end and this does not seem credible to me at all

believe what you want then. It's common for people to ignore information which doesn't square with what they want to think.

Well said from someone doing the exact same thing

If that is true than why did you post your comment OP? So full of it.

Maybe in the 60s, not any longer

I know a (large) family who has had several generations, I mean every single one of them, go to H

So do I. I also know another family that for four generations have gone to H, until the most recent who didn't have the grades and went to a UC

I went to H for college, graduated in the late 90s. I had 4 roommates, all of whom were legacies.

Is the point of this post to rile the troops? Brearley, Spence, and Chapin are all excellent schools and they jockey for top honors into HYP every year but the two or three more each year makes no difference and means nothing. If dc is in one of those schools you should count yourself as lucky.

but at least a handful of those will be murdoch, kennedy, bloomberg, etc. i don't think they count.

another Brearley hater I see. You cannot get through Brearley on a name, you need the brain. You may be able to get in with a name but you will not finish.

huh? i am not a B hater. i don't even know what you are talking about? i have no opinion on any of these girls schools! lol.

The point is that you know nothing about these schools so why comment.

omg. what is wrong with you. all of those people had dds who went or currently go to ss schools. and their dds will get into top colleges even if they graduate from a no-name school anywhere in the country. are all B moms this paranoid and defensive?

^^^ and BTW, the bloomberg/kennedy post was my first in this thread.

BS. Brearley is a celeb/billionaire whore beyond even Dalton. Doubt the girls from these families ALL have high 99x3 erbs and SBs to match.

agree completely. the gradu

the graduating classes are quite small so one or two students in either direction moves the %s. they're all about the same in quality. different parents, cultures perhaps but not education

Prize for most obvious post of the day.

you know admission season is heating up when the Brearley v. Chapin war begins.

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