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  • Wondering why Bloomberg won by such a narrow margin. Any thoughts?

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    11.04.09, 02:02 PM [ Flag ]
    • People upset by a)term limits change and b)his campaign spending perceived as buying the election. (FWIW, this is less my personal opinion than from what I have gleaned talking to friends/reading the news.)

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      11.04.09, 02:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • alot of speculation on this however most voters really didnt care about the term limits issue. Thompson had nothing to run on so he just kept harping on this but most voters stated it was a non issue.

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        11.04.09, 02:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • is that true? I thought people got pissed off about it. I did; but I'm not saying it for that reason, I was of the impression it had an impact.

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          11.04.09, 05:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think he's done a good job as mayor but the term limit issue is scary. I voted against Bloomberg as opposed to for anyone.

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      11.04.09, 02:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i just didn't bother to vote as i thought he would win by a landslide

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      11.04.09, 02:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • this is a very heavily Democratic town. the Dems could nominate a meatball hero and the Bronx, Brooklyn and half of Manhattan would vote for it

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      11.04.09, 02:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • good point here

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        11.04.09, 02:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • actually, not a good point at all. dems voted in overwhelming numbers for bloomie twice before, so why didn't they this time?

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          11.04.09, 02:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ITA (np). Also I don't think the Democratic vegetarian contingent would elect a meatball hero. Tofurkey, maybe.

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            11.05.09, 08:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • DING DING DING, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

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        11.04.09, 02:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • but then again, Bloomberg got 60% last time with equally democratic town. So something else is going on. I know people who got mad at him for the time limits thing, and also the way media was making it no contest people may not have bothered to vote.

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          11.04.09, 02:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Dont' get me wrong, term limits hurt him. But considering Liu got like 99.9% of the votes in his contest, Bill de Blassio got 103% of the votes and Marty Markowitz ran against a slice of cheese cake from Juniors. Mike did OK.

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            11.04.09, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • not really...the previous 4 elections were won by giuliani, giuliani, bloomberg & bloomberg, with ever increasing margins...this was a protest against the term limits as well as being tired of the same guy spending his way to victory

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          11.04.09, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • 9iu11ani won because he was white and he wasn't David Dinkins. He was re-elected because he still wasn't Dinkins and a lot of people thought he made them safe. Then, I think, post 9-11 Bloomberg seemed a safer bet. Closer to the existing/status quo. He has kept his job because he does it pretty well and the Democrats can't seem to find anyone to run for mayor with more qualifications than, I wasn't caught with hookers. It is embarrassing to be a Dem in NY these days.

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            11.04.09, 02:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • is that why we haven't had a democratic mayor in 16 years? i always wondered.

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        11.05.09, 09:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • The city has become a much less interesting place over the past 8 years. A morass of unaffordable luxury condos with entire neighborhoods replaced by ATMs, chain stores and Duane Reades. Manufacturing, ethnic neighborhoods, diverse mom and pop ground level retail; all gone. Could this have sparked a backlash or is it just me who feels this is not the great city it used to be?

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      11.04.09, 02:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Ethnic neighborhoods have disappeared along with mom and pop shops? Examples?

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        11.04.09, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • German Yorkville: gone. Czech neighborhood East 70s: gone. Irish enclaves: Hells Kitchen, Yorkville-gone. Little Italy and Jewish Lower East Side: gone, long ago. German Jewish and Irish enclave Morningside Heights: gone. All of these ethnic neighborhoods have been replaced with an inauthentic EPCOT version of New York. The ground level retail is all chain convenience stores, bank branches etc...

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          11.04.09, 02:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • the middle class was still here prior to Bloomberg

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            11.04.09, 02:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np In my neighborhood, there are plenty of non chain store retail.

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            11.04.09, 02:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • but this didn't happen under bloomberg. yorkville, hell's kitchen, etc. all disappeared in the 80s and 90s.

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            11.04.09, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • very interesting point. We left about 8 years ago and you can tell the city has become much more gentrified. The booming economy took its toll on the character of the city.

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            11.04.09, 02:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • You're talking about ethnic neighborhoods in Manhattan. Come to an outer borough for the real New York (and I don't mean Brooklyn). For example, Morris Park in the Bronx for a real Italian neighborhood.

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            11.04.09, 03:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • true but if you remember the ethnic nabes in Manhattan and see how they've been replaced it is sad to see.

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              11.04.09, 03:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • i think ethnic neighborhoods die out as groups become more assimilated. or they just move/evolve. but new ones appear. i would guess that most new ethnic neighborhoods are asian or souteast asian, not german, italian, or jewish.

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            11.04.09, 04:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • probably true, but also much safer, cleaner, etc

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        11.04.09, 02:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • DING DING DING, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

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        11.04.09, 04:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Bloomberg has given away unfair advantages to developers and other rich friends. Why should working people and middle class people vote for him? And public schools are not great everywhere, or accessible in all good districts. He spent 16 times as much as Thompson on the campaign. He should be embarrassed at his stats!

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        11.04.09, 04:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • only 12 people voted

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      11.04.09, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • hey, i voted! for thompson!

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        11.04.09, 02:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: apparently you and four others. I was with the six others on the pro Mike side. But hey, we all voted for Liu and Bill de B, right?

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          11.04.09, 03:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • of course! and christine quinn! i also voted yes on letting prisoners work for non-profits and no to allowing public lands on l.i. to be used for power plants. or something like that. it was early.

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            11.04.09, 03:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Nonvoter here. I voted for Bloomberg the last time around, but this time I wasn't thrilled with the term limit issue and the insane amount of spending. Plus, he kept bashing Thompson for his tenure as chancellor of the public schools, but it's not like the public school system is doing that great under his control. That said, I couldn't get excited about Thompson either.

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      11.04.09, 02:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • people expected he would have it in the bag and since there were no state or national elections, they didn't bother to vote

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      11.04.09, 03:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Why was the term limit thing such a big deal? It didn't guarantee him the office, just the right to run. He still had to be elected.

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      11.04.09, 03:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • i agree. and it's not like he unilaterally overturned it. it was voted on by representatives of the people, right?

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        11.04.09, 03:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • please. he pressured so many city council members and made tons of backroom deals/promises.

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          11.04.09, 03:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • so maybe we should elect city council members who have a backbone. you can't blame this all on bloomberg. he asked, they (the people WE voted in) obliged. if you don't like it, find a better system than democracy.

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            11.04.09, 04:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • a billionaire incumbent with a commercial on tv/radio every 5 seconds? i think he was pretty much guaranteed to win.

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        11.04.09, 03:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • i'm not for term limits, but if new yorkers voted for it than overturning it in the council seems pretty shady.

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        11.04.09, 03:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • the point was that he made a big issue of how he is for term limits and then when the issue came up this year - he decided to change his mind and run again

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        11.04.09, 04:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • the term limits issue rally pissed some people off and motivated them to vote. many people who like Bloomberg assumed he would win. Bloomberg is a fine enough mayor even with his unsuccessful ideas: olympics, congestion tax, west side stadium and his Manhattan-centric tendencies.

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      11.04.09, 03:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • cmon, the outta boroughs have thrived under Mike even more than Manhattan has!

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        11.04.09, 03:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • or: i don't generally feel this way but with the atlantic yards project, sending homeless men in manhattan out to brooklyn and the bronx and just some of the on-record statements he's made in the past

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          11.04.09, 04:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • because not everyone is in love with bloomberg. i voted for thompson because i think this city needs more than one empty condo/office building after another. i don't know that thompson would be outstanding, but i know where bloomberg's priorities lie.

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      11.04.09, 03:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • A lot of people are frustrated with Bloomberg's decisions. He's made the city "more livable" but to the detriment of people who aren't millionaires.

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      11.05.09, 08:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • if more people had voted he would have LOST. rats!

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      11.05.09, 09:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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