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  • How would you handle this at home? Received call from ds's school that he hit another child (he's in K). School took away some privileges for the day. Should I just discuss with him, or should we have consequences at home as well?

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    11.04.09, 12:36 PM [ Flag ]
    • this merits discussion and consequences at home as well.

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      11.04.09, 12:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA

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        11.04.09, 12:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ditto-- also FWIW my dd got pushed down the stairs last year (cracked the back of her head on the step) and the mother of the child who pushed her never spoke to me about it which I thought was rude.

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          11.04.09, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • op: If he will tell me who he hit, I will def. say something!

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            11.04.09, 01:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np; I don't think schools tell the moms identity of the victims.

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            11.04.09, 01:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • responder above: I remember at the time I was surprised the teacher told me who did it. I think the mom of the other child probably thought she wouldn't be outed.

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              11.04.09, 01:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • some kid pushes my son down a flight of stairs and i will take it out on the kid and then the parents

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            11.04.09, 01:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • yikes. was this a boy or a girl who did this?

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            11.04.09, 01:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • OR: It was another girl who pushed DD. A mom saw it and the assistant teacher saw it and said it was definitely deliberate. It was right before pickup so when the mom of the other girl walked into the classroom she saw DD with an ice pack on the back of her head crying. So she knew who the victim was. I'm actually mad again thinking about it but I let it go. I know the mom and the girl and they are nice enough. I don't think the mom thought the teacher would tell me who did it.

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              11.04.09, 02:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • damn. I would have been livid. can't believe the mom never said anything to you. what sort of action did the school take? was this in a private school?

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                11.04.09, 02:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I was so angry. But I kept thinking that the mother was waiting for an appropriate moment to say something. I was stunned when she didn't. Then I realized that DH and I were talking about it (probably a lot) in front of DD and it was stressing her out. So I tried to chill out. The teacher spoke to the mom about it immediately and then later the dad assured the teacher that privileges were taken away. This was in a private pre-K-- I was also new to the school thing so wasn't sure what to do.

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                  11.04.09, 02:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • are you a teen mother? your reaction to this sounds like you are in middle school. "OMG, I can't believe she didn't say *anything* to be it just makes me like so mad thinking about it. " This wasn't about you and her and was appropriately handled through the teachers and school.

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                11.04.09, 07:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Yes but make sure you tell him why. At 5 he should be able to remember it.

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      11.04.09, 12:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Maybe the other child deserved a good poke.

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      11.04.09, 12:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I would discuss but I probably wouldn't have any consequences because too much time has elapsed between when he did it to when he gets home.

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      11.04.09, 01:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • discuss and have consequences. hear his side and sympathize if that's appropriate but make him understand that he needs to use his words or find a grown-up if he gets angry or upset with another dc's behavior.

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      11.04.09, 01:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • hijack: why is it always, "use HIS words" or "use YOUR words" instead of just "use words." this has always bugged me for some reason.

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        11.04.09, 01:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • because the expression is "use your words, not your hands [fists, feet, etc.]"

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          11.04.09, 01:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • still, it's illogical and annoying. words aren't "yours" and should't be posessive; hands and feet are and can be.

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            11.04.09, 01:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • you're being silly. of course you can say "your words."

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              11.04.09, 01:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • the "your words" phrase (and the tone in which it's generally delivered) is indicative of the mealy-mouthed parenting that's rampant these days. just say "no, don't hit, use words" and be done with it.

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                11.04.09, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • NP: technically, the poster with the issue is correct, but I think that the incorrect usage is too prevalent at this point to fight this fight.

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                11.04.09, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • thank you.

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                  11.04.09, 01:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • incorrect usage? so the phrase "tell me in your own words what happened that night" is incorrect because "words" can't take a possessive? god, the level of illiteracy on this board (and worse, the illiterates pretending they know what they're talking about) is astounding.

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                  11.04.09, 01:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • different context, usage and intent--and you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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                    11.04.09, 01:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • no. i don't. "your words" is "your words." are you the one who said it can't take a possessive and i proved you wrong and you're sputtering about context, usage and intent (none of which are different in my example)? pathetic.

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                      11.04.09, 01:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • see below regarding the word "own" in this context. are you unable to recognize the subtleties of the english language and admit that usage and intent are relevant here? I suppose you are one of those mealy-mouthed parents...and so hostile, too. interesting.

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                        11.04.09, 01:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • see the shakespeare quote below. i think he's probably capable of more subtleties than you are. particularly since you seem not to know the definition of the word mealy-mouthed.

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                          11.04.09, 02:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • np: mealy-mouthed implies weakness, no?

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                          11.04.09, 02:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • no, it actually means not straightforward, which this poster clearly was.

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                          11.04.09, 02:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • When you say 'your words' to a young child, you really mean speech, which is not what you mean when you say that to an adult.

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                        11.04.09, 02:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • The lack of capitalization on this board drives me crazy.

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                    11.04.09, 01:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • NP: the phrase "your own words" is qualified by the word "own," and is clarifying that you won't be quoting someone else or passing their statement off as your own.

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                    11.04.09, 01:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • nnp. i think you're splitting hairs here. it's obviously fine to use the phrase your words and not just in some contexts.

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                      11.04.09, 01:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • ok, how about this then from william shakespeare: "my words fly up, my thoughts remain below. words without thoughts never to heaven go." is he a moron who doesn't know about context, usage and intent as well?

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                      11.04.09, 02:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • wow. you went and dug that up? impressive. again, note the subtleties of the english language, particularly in art. no one is calling shakespeare a moron (and he certainly took liberties with the language). I'm just saying that in the context of that ineffectual parenting phrase, the use of "your words" is inappropriate and illogical. I'm off now. Have a great evening.

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                        11.04.09, 02:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • np. editor mom here and i'm laughing over this whole stupid sub-thread! but you're the one who has missed the subtleties. actually, you're just plain wrong. good night, sweet princess.

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                          11.04.09, 02:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • What are you the editor of?

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                          11.05.09, 05:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • your son is a bully

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      11.04.09, 01:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • you need to send him to a socialization group so that he learns the words to express his feelings. Hitting is only a sign of not being able to express himself.

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      11.04.09, 02:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I am going to disagree with everyone about taking away privileges at home. I actually spoke to our school psychologist about this very issue. She felt (and I agree) that until around 7 years old, kids don't really retain the value of losing privileges after the fact when something like this occurs. It needs to be deal with immediately in the context of school, and it should also be handled in a conflict mediation type approach between the children. Then you should reinforce the messages that the school emphasizes at home (i.e. school is a safe place for everyone, it is not ok to hit anyone, it is not ok to do things that make other children feel unsafe) and reinforce that you know what happened and it is not acceptable. And depending on the circumstances of the behavior, you could talk to the other parents or not, that is up to you in my opinion.

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      11.04.09, 05:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • you and your "psychologist" don't give children very much credit. I choose to have higher expectations for my dc and make sure that when we are discussing something that happened that I am very clear & that they do understand.

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        11.05.09, 07:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My rule is one crime, one punishment. I do not punish if the school punised. I do however discuss

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      11.04.09, 05:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • First I would ask my child what happened, some 5 year old can not properly tell another adult what happened- depending on the story - i'd react differently. If he randomly hit another child for no reason then I would have consequences at home to reinforce the teacher but if the 2 children were fighting then I would reinforce "no hitting" and better ways to manage the problem.

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      11.04.09, 05:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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