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People that do not vaccinate their kids are freeloaders! But tehy actually don't realize that vaccines aren't 100% effective so when people start to not vaccinate everyone is at much greater risk. This mumps out break is just one example of how you're messing up the system.
66 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]this news is 2 weeks old, but many of the people who got mumps WERE vaccinated, and vaccinations are not mandatory, so the risk will continue to exist and there's nothing we can do about it.
[ Reply | Options ]NP: bite me. Autism is increasing at record amounts and that is due to vaccinations but a mumps outbreak the likes of which we have not seen for 70 years is unrelated to drop in vaccinations among the silly people who don't want to see autism for what it is.
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How do you know that the increase in autism is linked to vaccinations? Please be sure to share your inside knowledge with the New England Journal of Medicine and the Nobel committee. Last I heard, this was a crackpot theory advanced by celebrities that didn't even graduate from high school
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I realize people getting mumps are vaccinated. With the vaccine only 90% effective, the only way to really control si to ahve EVRYONE vaccinate.
[ Reply | Options ]You have over 10 million people here illegally, many of whom have never been vaccinated for anything and have access to nothing but emergency medical care. Kind of hard to enforce this.
[ Reply | Options ]many "non-vaccinators" do it by choice. immigrants can get vaccinations for their children (and do)
[ Reply | Options ]the by choice contingent is much much smaller than the under the radar contingent.
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You are using facts on UB. It is like boxing with one hand tied behind your back.
[ Reply | Options ]The children may be (some are, many are not as no health insurance) but the adults are not.
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I have a feeling that once all of these outbreaks come back, especially ones like polio, that vaccines will become mandatory. It only takes a few kids dying an awful death and the outrage over the unvaccinated to make the government make that decision.
[ Reply | Options ]itta. once everyone sees what life pre-Vaccine was like everyone will be changing their tune about mercury and autism
[ Reply | Options ]New to this thread. My mom was one of the last people in this country to have polio so I think I count as seeing first hand - I got german measels vax, it wore off - if I had the disease that wouldn't happen. I also had a measels vax wear off. Maybe I'm just weird or one in a million but I don't think so. I would have much preferred for my child to get chicken pox, measels and mumps. But that is just me. I got the chicken pox vax. I've gotten all the vax - but I don't beleive they are a panacea and I don't attack peolple who choose not to vax. BTW, none of this has anything to do with autism in my mind.
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It just show that the vaccines are bullshit. How can those that don't get vaccinated be "freeloaders"? If the vaccine actually worked, you would call the "freeloaders" "idiots" for not taking the vaccine, but the vaccine does not work.
[ Reply | Options ]How can you say vaccines don't work. Year ago millions of kids were dying from polio, mumps, measles, and rubella. You think they all just disappeared? No, the vaccines got rid of them and if you do happen to get them even though you have been vaccinated it is usually very mild whereas the unvaccinated could (and some do) die.
[ Reply | Options ]np: people used to die of a lot of things that they don't die of anymore, that are not vaccine-diseases. the fact is that better sanitation, clean water supply, better medication, all improve both people's health and reduce the likelihood of many diseases. I'm not saying vaccines dont play a role, but it is not JUST about vaccines. And we've also seen an increase in a lot of auto-immune disorders - there is some concern that while we are not dying from these vaccine preventable diseases, we are suffering from life long chronic debilitating health problems that may be attributed to vaccines, or to a crippled immune system.
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My family is one of the ones that the measles and mumps vaccine does not work on. We all get the vaccine and we all get the disease. Both my mother's generation and ours. I think it is because we are Italian. Measles is so common there. The Vaccine might not work with many Mediteranian's.
[ Reply | Options ]I'm a WASPy as they come and my measles didn't work. I think it was a bad batch because it happened to tons of people my age (we were in college and all needed new vax)
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np: no, back in the 70s, they were not giving a booster for measles and it was discovered in the late 80s/90s that it was needed otherwise immunity wore off. those of us who'd gotten 1 dose had to go get a 2nd dose. today, kids get the booster at 4-6yo.
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I wonder how many college kids had a rough go of it with the measles outbreak - they would have had FULL immunity if they had measles as a child. I'm going to hazard a guess that chicken pox vax is going to run into the same problem and while I did give it to my dc - I don't blame moms who would prefer their dc get the cp.
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agreed. the only solution = mandatory vaccinaton like the successful smallpox program. but, BTW (and I LIVE in brooklyn, not far from borough park, the epicenter) 80% of those kids WERE vaccinated.
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