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  • my dh's boss gives him a hard to take off vacation time. he has worked in the same small office for 8 yrs now. every year it's worst and worst. it's at the point when he wants to take 2 days off she nearly has a nervous breakdown. i am sick and tired of taken vacation with my dc w/o him. any advice?

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    08.11.09, 11:02 AM [ Flag ]
    • he needs to put vacation in as early as possible and stick to his guns.

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      08.11.09, 11:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • are you sure that it is his boss that is causing all the trouble. perhaps your DH doesn't want to vacation with the kids? also, i'm not saying bosses can't be ridiculous, but i would also wonder if my DH asked strongly for vacation or is just not making waves.

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      08.11.09, 11:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • hmmm.... i think he's afraid to lose his job. husband is not into making waves, he's a wimp. sometimes i want to kill him

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        08.11.09, 11:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • i hear you - my DH's boss piles work on him and DH complains to me about it but won't say anything to him because DH doesn't think it'll change anything. it really ticks me off.

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          08.11.09, 11:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • see above. he needs to man up.

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          08.11.09, 11:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • really? would you prefer that he be unemployed? because he doesn't see that he can have it both ways -- i.e., be the person you want him to be and keep his job. i suggest helping him figure out a solution instead of telling him to "man up", which, just my guess, is going to get you absolutely nowhere.

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          08.11.09, 12:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • provide itinerary, set up a plan to check in daily, assist remotely, etc. that will help.

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      08.11.09, 11:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • thank you, that's it - that the answer!!

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        08.11.09, 11:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • i do not think this is a good idea. vacation is for unwinding. bosss will suck up all his time while he is supposd to be on vacation.

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        08.11.09, 11:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • yes, you're right

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          08.11.09, 11:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • not if he communicates clearly when he will and will not be available. plenty of people have to work while on vacation - it's better than not going! communication and dh's boss knowing that she's not going to be left blowing in the wind if she needs something is the key. she just needs to be managed properly, i think, especially since she has anxiety about being left hanging.

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          08.11.09, 11:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np My dh hasn't taken a vacation in over 7 years without checking in several times a day. We're tentatively planning one for two weeks from now. He'll likely have to fly to China in the middle of it. That's life.

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          08.11.09, 01:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I've lived this, and would rather not be on vacation at all than be on a vacation where I'm expected to be on call 24/7, and where anything that goes wrong while I'm away becomes my fault b/c I'm not in the office. It ends up being more stressful than not taking time off at all. It sounds like this might be the DH's situation.

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        08.11.09, 11:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • set a schedule. I'll have 30 minutes in the a.m. and 30 minutes in the evening every day, and will watch the bb midday. not available on x day because we're going to xyz, but i can check in in the evening, etc. i mean, come on, people. people in big firms (banking, law, etc.) do this ALL the time, even when there are other people on whom to rely, so i can understand why a small business owner would want that kind of accessibility.

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          08.11.09, 12:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ^^dh would not be offering to RUN any project, only to be available for questions, support, etc.

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            08.11.09, 12:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • OR: That only works if the person you're accountable to will be satisfied with that. I was biglaw and the partner I worked for expected me to respond to every email within 15 minutes, even if on vacation. If I didn't, I would get a nasty email from him "reminding" me I was supposed to be in touch, and when I got back to work would get a lecture about my "commitment and work ethic". Sometimes the only way to manage expectations is to manage to get a job with someone with different expectations!

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            08.11.09, 12:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • True, and that's for him to work out with his employer. It's tough in this market. there are TONS of highly qualified people who would love to be in OP's dh's position -- at least he's employed. so he can quit; run the risk of getting fired by "manning up" and checking out on vacation; never go on vacation at all; or, he can work with the manager and be responsive, even if that means setting the bb to vibrate and responding when it buzzes. it beats unemployment, and if it's the only way he gets away, then it's better than nothing.

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              08.11.09, 01:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • She wants him in the office, so the bb is not enough.

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                08.11.09, 04:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • he should be able to work something out with her so that they're both comfortable. it WILL impinge on vacation, but it's better than nothing.

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                  08.11.09, 07:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Yes, this is his situation. his boss is a really B....

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          08.11.09, 12:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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