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Anyone else in NYC have a hard time getting milk that won't go bad in a day in the summer? I've tried 3 different stores around me and 2 were bad when I opended them, 1 went bad a day after opened. All were bad at least 5 days before the stamped date.
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08.06.09, 10:07 AM [ Flag ]
- get ultrapasteurized milk, then. (our milk never spoils - you may have gotten bad batches - and they all came from the same place - despite the different stores)
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  08.06.09, 10:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - Where do you get ultrapasteurized?
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    08.06.09, 10:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - parmalat is ultrapast, although if you look on labels you'll find that there's a lot of ultrap. milk out there. was it always the same brand?
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      08.06.09, 10:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - not sure - we just buy whatever normal milk the store carries. How is parmalat different than regular milk?
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        08.06.09, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        it is ultrapasteurized.
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        08.06.09, 10:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        It's ultrapasturized, meaning it's pasturized at very high heats. You can store it in your cabinet until opened. We use it at the office. Tastes great and lasts forever.
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        08.06.09, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Love Parmalat. Used to order it all the time from Fresh Direct. I would be so annoyed to open the fridge in the morning and find a carton of milk empty, but then overjoyed to realize I had a box of Parmalat at the back of my cabinet- morning coffeetime saved!
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        08.06.09, 11:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Get organic. Lasts longer.
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  08.06.09, 10:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - we get regular and one gallon lasts us over a week without going bad
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    08.06.09, 10:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - op: I thought about that but I figured it wouldn't last even as long cause it has no preservatives
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    08.06.09, 10:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - milk doesn't generally have preservatives, and organic can go bad as easily as non-org.
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      08.06.09, 10:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - np Nope. It's ultrapasteurized. Check out the best before dates on regular milk and organic milk next time your at the grocery store.
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        08.06.09, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        it's not all ultrap. (actually, that is why i stopped buying certain brands). i think the takeaway for op is to look for ultrapasteurized milk (not necec. organic)
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        08.06.09, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Which organic milk isn't ultrapasteurized? Can't think of one I've bought that isn't.
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        08.06.09, 10:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        the bottled one, comes to mine. i think organic cow used to be just past. (i got a few bad batches - they may now be, i just don't buy it because of that)
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        08.06.09, 10:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - Wrong. Check the expiration dates. Organic lasts much longer.
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        08.06.09, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        there is nothing inherent to organic milk that would make it last longer.
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        08.06.09, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        No, of course not, but organic milk is ultrapasteurized.
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        08.06.09, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        it's not ALL ultrapast. is what i'm saying. so op still has to look at the dates / labelling. there are at least 8 brands of org. milk out there.
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        08.06.09, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        ^^http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=experts-organic-milk-lasts-longer - it lasts longer because it is ultrapast. as is parmalat (non-organic)
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        08.06.09, 10:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - No organic lasts longer because it's ultrapasteurized.
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      08.06.09, 10:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- we buy lactaid - initially bought it bc dh is lactose intollerant. it tastes the exact same and stays good for much longer.
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  08.06.09, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - it doesn't taste the same. yuck
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    08.06.09, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- we get our milk every week from Fresh Direct, and it lasts a whole week. Farmland.
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  08.06.09, 10:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - how much does weekly fresh dir. cost you (hijack). do you save or spend more $
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    08.06.09, 10:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - we spend between $150 and 200/week which is probably a bit higher than the grocery store. It's worth it to us because of the selection and convenience. Our local supermarket doesn't have nearly the selection that FD has and also we both work full-time and have no car so it's just a PITA to go shopping.
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      08.06.09, 10:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - thanks for responding.
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        08.06.09, 11:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - np: ditto. Our FD milk last a week no problem. Non-organic Farmland. I find FD prices to be comparable or less than Gristedes or Food Emporium, on average, of course on a given day any one item can be different. SOOOOO worth it if only to not have to deal with the heavy items and saves so much time in terms of going to supermarket (even if you get delivery).
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    08.06.09, 11:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Ultrapasteurized: heated to high temp for a brief time; kills microbes and extends life of milk, but still requires refrigeration; ex. eggnog; fruit juices. Ultra high temp pasteurization: heated to very high temp 280F for two seconds; completely sterilizes; can be kept unrefrig for 6-9 months; very popular in europe; used for milk like Parmalat; prob - debate that it may reduce nutritive content of the milk.
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  08.06.09, 10:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- We get our milk from Costco (the cheap one, $2.30 or so per gallon) and they all last as long as needed.
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  08.06.09, 10:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Maybe you need a new fridg? I buy organic and it lasts in our fridge for up to two weeks.
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Anyone else in NYC have a hard time getting milk that won't go bad in a day in the summer? I've tried 3 different stores around me and 2 were bad when I opended them, 1 went bad a day after opened. All were bad at least 5 days before the stamped date.

get ultrapasteurized milk, then. (our milk never spoils - you may have gotten bad batches - and they all came from the same place - despite the different stores)

Where do you get ultrapasteurized?

parmalat is ultrapast, although if you look on labels you'll find that there's a lot of ultrap. milk out there. was it always the same brand?

not sure - we just buy whatever normal milk the store carries. How is parmalat different than regular milk?

it is ultrapasteurized.

It's ultrapasturized, meaning it's pasturized at very high heats. You can store it in your cabinet until opened. We use it at the office. Tastes great and lasts forever.

Love Parmalat. Used to order it all the time from Fresh Direct. I would be so annoyed to open the fridge in the morning and find a carton of milk empty, but then overjoyed to realize I had a box of Parmalat at the back of my cabinet- morning coffeetime saved!

Get organic. Lasts longer.

we get regular and one gallon lasts us over a week without going bad

op: I thought about that but I figured it wouldn't last even as long cause it has no preservatives

milk doesn't generally have preservatives, and organic can go bad as easily as non-org.

np Nope. It's ultrapasteurized. Check out the best before dates on regular milk and organic milk next time your at the grocery store.

it's not all ultrap. (actually, that is why i stopped buying certain brands). i think the takeaway for op is to look for ultrapasteurized milk (not necec. organic)

Which organic milk isn't ultrapasteurized? Can't think of one I've bought that isn't.

the bottled one, comes to mine. i think organic cow used to be just past. (i got a few bad batches - they may now be, i just don't buy it because of that)

Wrong. Check the expiration dates. Organic lasts much longer.

there is nothing inherent to organic milk that would make it last longer.

No, of course not, but organic milk is ultrapasteurized.

it's not ALL ultrapast. is what i'm saying. so op still has to look at the dates / labelling. there are at least 8 brands of org. milk out there.

^^http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=experts-organic-milk-lasts-longer - it lasts longer because it is ultrapast. as is parmalat (non-organic)

No organic lasts longer because it's ultrapasteurized.

we buy lactaid - initially bought it bc dh is lactose intollerant. it tastes the exact same and stays good for much longer.

it doesn't taste the same. yuck

we get our milk every week from Fresh Direct, and it lasts a whole week. Farmland.

how much does weekly fresh dir. cost you (hijack). do you save or spend more $

thanks for responding.

We get our milk from Costco (the cheap one, $2.30 or so per gallon) and they all last as long as needed.

Maybe you need a new fridg? I buy organic and it lasts in our fridge for up to two weeks.

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