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  • DC has always seemed highly gifted to all who has met him. At age 4 yo, only scored 93 on SB. Now at age 7 yo 99.9 on SB. Wondering if early score had to do with motivation at the time, or if development was an issue. DC also with reading level at 12th grade. Other tests all at highest score level. Is it worth it to apply to Davidson Institute? Anyone know if it offers anything?

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    07.19.09, 05:00 PM [ Flag ]
    • He can't use it for college as it is controversial at best. There are other credible gifted programs.

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      07.19.09, 05:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I know this is off topic but were they any real signs that he was going to be gifted really early, like by age 2. I am trying to see if my dd is where your dc was at age 2. What did he know by age 2?

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      07.19.09, 05:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I don't believe that your 7 year old can read at a 12th grade level. This means that dc could read anna karenina. I could barely get through anna karenina. If this were really true, you wouldn't be on UB.

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      07.19.09, 06:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Do you mean Davidson Young Scholars? Did your child also do achievement testing?-- I'm assuming that's where you got the 12th grade reading info. My son also had scores like this (<grade 12.9), but that does NOT mean he's reading Tolstoy. Why did you do testing again. By the way, DYS is worth it.

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      07.19.09, 06:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • How is it worth it?

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        07.19.09, 06:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • as below, support instead of sneering. connection to other families. possible financial help. help advocating at school (though this has not been helpfu in NYC)-- particularly if you have a kid with 2E issues, or are homeschooling, it is a support network. It's free to apply if you have the scores.

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          07.19.09, 07:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • you are deluded.........there are thousands of bright and talented kids just like him

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      07.19.09, 06:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • at age 4, a lower SB could be due to just about anything, including not wanting to cooperate or needing to go to the bathroom. Apply to Davidson if you are not getting the support you need from dc's school. At the very least you will have a resource that will not sneer at you (unlike UB).

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      07.19.09, 07:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Also look at CTY program at HOpkins.

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      07.19.09, 07:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np ITA. My inlaws had my dh involved with this at a young age. They were in Canada and very frustrated by lack of support for gifted kids back then. They drove him to the US for the CTY (then Study of Exceptional Talent) math camps in the 1980s.

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        07.19.09, 08:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • just looked into it. looks interesting.

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        07.19.09, 08:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • my oldest daughter taking the EPGY online math from Stanford and the 4 yr old one taking the CTY math program from John Hopk - just go directly to Stanford - John Hopk uses the Stanford program but charges an extra $200 per quarter. I was shocked that the CTY is the same one the older took a few years ago.

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          07.20.09, 11:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • i checked online re: Hopkins program for 4 yr old and I can't find one. What program is she in? Thanks

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            07.20.09, 09:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • OR: she is taking the advanced math for 1st through CTY, do not take it though, it is the same exact one my older daughter took through Stanford EPGY called k - 1 math

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              07.22.09, 07:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • ^^^^^ and CTY charges you an extra $200 to take the Stanford course, just go to the Stanford course directly and save yourself the money

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                07.22.09, 07:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • The replies indicate a lack of understanding as to what a 12 grade reading level is. It does not indicate the reading comprehension of an extremely bright 12th grader about to head of to Harvard. It reflects the reading comprehension of an average 12th grader with an IQ of 100 about to head off to community college. The idea that an extremely bright 2nd grader has the reading comprehension of an average 12 grader is not suprising, though it is kind of sad for what it says about the average 12th grader.

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      07.19.09, 08:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np: not sure why this matters. I don't think the snarky posts here imply anything other than insecurity and hostility on the part of the posters.

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        07.19.09, 09:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I don't think this is totally true. The NYT is suppose to be considered 6th grade level. 12th grade would be much more advanced than I think even you are thinking. The average 12th grader is reading more challenging material than you are suggesting.

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        07.20.09, 07:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Come on. Get real. The average college bound 12th grader scores about 500 on the critical reading section of the SAT. Lucky if they can fully comprehend the Daily News, let alone the NYT or "more challenging material."

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          07.20.09, 09:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Supply him with interesting reading material that he could possibly enjoy (Harry Potter?)Make sure he has friends and activities that are outside the academic realm that will enrich his life. And teach him that how hard he works and how curious and interested he is and how much he is loved by others are the most important things. And relax a bit, mom.

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        07.20.09, 12:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • "DC has always seemed highly gifted to all who has met him" --please stop and let your child be a child.

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      07.19.09, 09:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Sorry to ask this: but where is your dc going to school? Don't mention the specific school, just public/private/tt/G&t type of response. Is he bored?

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      07.19.09, 09:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Why not google it? Ask your neuropsychologist for ideas on what to do, if anything?

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      07.20.09, 05:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • neuropsychologist suggested getting a tutor to create additional curriculum and to give more one on one time. Also suggested more idependent projects.

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        07.20.09, 04:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • There is a message board on the davidson web site where you will get a lot more information.

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      07.20.09, 06:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I feel like I see this type of post every other day.

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      07.20.09, 07:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i am SO over these endless "my child is gifted" post. come on people, can't you ask the question you need to ask without sounding like a pompous braggart?? there's a reason there are other posts here about young kids bragging too much...it'd because they learn it from their parents.

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      07.20.09, 04:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I"m not OP, but you listen. It's not bragging. This is anon. board anyway. Don't let your insecurity turn you into a troll. You don't know what kind of situation OP has on her hands. You do a little research and you can see why she is stressed out. You have no idea. Kids like OP's dc are AT RISK of so many things.

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        07.20.09, 04:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • thank you. not meant to be a brag. was trying to give the truncated version. dc had inconsistent test scores between ages 4 & 7, and does seem to stand out to adults as being very smart (but also in negative ways which are part of the difficulty). we are hoping to find ways to help him (and us) cope with the various challenges.

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          07.20.09, 05:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np: You've got to grow a thick skin. Quick. I've got a dc like this. It is very difficult. Yes, there are lots of very very bright 99 SB dc, but there are very few 99.9s and it is a different universe.

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            07.20.09, 05:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Pls join Davidson. You will get many answers that you can't find anywhere else. Just to let you know, my dc, similar to yours in profile, is in a school in NYC that, I would dare to say, is almost perfect for our needs. Do more research and you may find your answers.

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            07.20.09, 05:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I posted above about growing a thick skin, and ITA. What you need to understand is that no school is going to totally meet this kind of dc's needs; however, there are schools out there that are open to it--they don't make it the child's problem or the parent's problem. They see it as a challenge that they attempt to address.

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              07.20.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • NP: What kinds of schools did you consider? Philosophy, private, public? Thanks!

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              07.20.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • private tt.

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                07.20.09, 07:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • We looked at everything, public and private. Assume nothing. Not all progressives are the same, not all traditionals are the same. You need to find a school that values teaching to the individual. I don't care how accelerated a curriculum is, if the philosophy of the school is one size should fit all smart kids, it probably will not be a good fit.

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                07.20.09, 07:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • ITA!

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                  07.20.09, 07:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • np; I read here that there seem to be a few moms of 99.9 dc's at Dalton who chose the school bec it's progressive, has smart peers (though not 99.9 but plenty of 99's), is focused on the individual and they let you go at your own pace.

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                  07.20.09, 08:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • i'm the troll...that's funny. i have more than an idea. she could've easily asked about a school for a child who excels. anyone who uses the word "gifted" at this point is a pompous ass. probably you included.

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          07.20.09, 05:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np

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            07.20.09, 05:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • npWhy does it bother you so much? What's your story?

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            07.20.09, 05:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • whoa! calm down!

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            07.20.09, 06:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Listen, gifted is NOT a dirty word. You are reacting to it negatively and you probably have a story of your own, but it is a clinical term totally appropriate for OP's kid. I don't have a kid like OP's but a step below that I know there is a world of difference between a kid like mine and hers. OP has A LOT to go through.

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            07.20.09, 06:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • asking for "a school for a child who excels" does not sound like what OP is asking about. that is a different question.

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            07.20.09, 06:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Omg...NP above is totally right. Not only did OP use the word gifted, but she said highly gifted. She could have easily asked her question without posting stats and arrogant descriptions. I think we're all tired of reading posts with the word gifted in them.

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          07.20.09, 06:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • The negative posters seem sooooo bitter to me, they clearly do not understand who difficult it is to have a child who is smarter than his teachers, smarter than his parents. Good luck to you.

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      07.20.09, 07:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • why all the bitterness? why do people have such passionate anger about this issue?

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        07.20.09, 07:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: I want to know that too.

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          07.20.09, 07:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • My personal opinion? They feel that their children are somehow less than when they hear about a child who is totally off the charts. So, rather than believe that it could be true and that their kid is not the best, they assume that it can't be true and that no one's kid is that good. Basically, it makes them feel bad to think someone is somehow better than they are.

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          07.20.09, 07:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Because THEIR kids are so ordinary, and they resent that.

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          07.20.09, 07:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Again, talk to your neuropsychologist. Case closed.

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      07.20.09, 08:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • No, talk to us. It's OK. Don't let the haters get you down. Some of us know kids like this, or have them, and we'll try to to help.

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        07.20.09, 08:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: like people like you who come to UB and offer helpful information and ignore the attempts of others to waylay that help.

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          07.20.09, 08:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Ita and do not be discouraged. There will be good, open, sometimes helpful discourse on the Davidson forum. It's great to have support and swap resources-minus some of the strange, seemingly competitive climate on UB. DYS program has much to offer, from local mentoring to $aid and much more. The clinical terms relating to recognized levels of giftedness are kindling for firestorms on UB; I've yet to see a thread that stays on topic or avoids degenerating into ugliness, re:hg/eg/pg children.

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          07.20.09, 09:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Neuropsychologist is not an expert on education.

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        07.20.09, 09:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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