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  • Is a combined score of the 95th percentile on the ERBs considered good?

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    07.19.09, 07:42 AM [ Flag ]
    • Yes, it puts dc in the running for TT. But you still must apply broadly. In other words, the score does not rule out any school but in this day and age you need to apply to all types of schools. GL

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      07.19.09, 07:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Among NYC applicants for private K, it's average.

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      07.19.09, 07:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA. Unfortunately. And though "they" say scores don't matter it will or will not keep you in running. Use your connections.

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        07.19.09, 08:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Right, and 95 will keep her dc in the running.

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          07.19.09, 08:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np There are a HUGE number of kids with 95s. The kid would have to seriously stand out in order to get into tt with 95.

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            07.19.09, 08:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Please, there are tons of dc at TT who earned a 95. Schools really don't differentiate that much between a 95 and a 98

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              07.19.09, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • "Tons"? Unlikely.

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                07.19.09, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Except when it comes time to find the factors that differentiate them. Not my rule, don't get mad at me.

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                07.19.09, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • ita

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                  07.19.09, 08:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Who's mad? I just happen to know that you are incorrect. It is their own assessment of the children that they use to differentiate these dc.

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                  07.19.09, 08:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • np The erb is used to cull the applicant pool. If a kid with a so so score wows on playdate and has a fabulous playdate and maybe a high SB to submit, great. Otherwise, the erb score is to pare down the number of dcs they have to take a close look at. These schools have hundreds and hundreds of applicants and fairly small admissions staffs--they don't have the time to look at every kid in microscopic detail.

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                    07.19.09, 08:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • True, which is why generally 95+ is the unofficial cut-off. Also, all these schools administer their own IQ assessments and have psychologists present and taking notes during play dates.

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                      07.19.09, 08:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Can you submit SB? My DC scored 99 on SB but much lower on ERB.

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                      07.19.09, 08:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • Ask psd. But, yes, if there's a big difference, psds are often willing to submit SB to help your app.

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                        07.19.09, 09:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • nnp: Sure, but 95 will certainly not put you in a no pile. If dc has a great interview, s/he can absolutely get into a TT with that score.

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              07.19.09, 08:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • OK. But there are enough kids with high 90s to fill most tt seats--even after the obvious prep/badly behaved/obnoxious parents kids are taken out of the equation.

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                07.19.09, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Bottom line: if your dc gets 95 you can at least breathe and focus on interviews and school visits. Those really do carry a lot of weight. But it's all a big crap shoot. Besides siblings and legacies there's no reasonable standard.

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                  07.19.09, 08:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Absolutely true.

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                    07.19.09, 08:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Sorry, but it's MUCH easier to get into the school of your choice with a high 99 erb than with a 95. The highest scores obviously stand out as there aren't that many of them--those kids get a special look.

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                    07.19.09, 08:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Dinged w/98.

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                      07.19.09, 08:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • ^^ w/good visits/interviews from tt pre-k. it is what it is. No connections.

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                        07.19.09, 08:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • "No connections" and "tt pre-k" isn't a great combo for admissions. Your kid is last in line after legacies, the super wealthy and, likely, many sibs.

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                          07.19.09, 08:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • my child went to a non tt prek scored a 95 and got into several tt. We weren't competing with to many people and she had an excellent teach report.

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                          07.19.09, 09:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • "MUCH easier" doesn't mean it's guaranteed. And you never know what was in that school report...

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                        07.19.09, 08:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Still they need to prove themselves at the interview. And if a 95 has a great day it can totally be done. In fact, my BFF's son got into Collegiate with a 92 because he nailed his school visit.

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                      07.19.09, 09:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • This totally turns upside down the UB assumption that only 95 and above get a close look (and anything other than that is automatically in the "no" pile). My personal theory is that anything above 90 gets a close look, and once you're past that cutoff, it's not about the ERB anymore, it's about the playdate and school report The 99s who are truly outstanding will stand out in these areas as well, but a 91 who shines will always get picked over a 99s who isn't "all that" in real life, whether prepped or not. -np

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                        07.19.09, 11:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • The vast majority of kids taking wppsi for erb purposes get 90+--and they aren't ALL getting a "close look".

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                          07.19.09, 11:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Why not? Most schools do the school visits with limited number of kids at the time and so each dc has a chance to stand out there. And if that happens they do go back to look at the rest of the package.

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                          07.19.09, 11:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Right. But if a 90 and a 99 have similar profiles aside from their scores, the 99 will get the spot (at least at tt--might be rejected at other schools without indication the school is fc or top three).

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                          07.19.09, 03:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • give it a rest already

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      07.19.09, 09:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Oh its just started...The score thing is in a post above too.

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        07.19.09, 09:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • i saw that. i don't even have school boards selected, but i still have to read through this crap. ub sucks because i can't collapse a post and keep it that way after i refresh

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          07.19.09, 09:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I really think it depends what preK you're applying from. Applying from a preK that's known to prep the kids, a 95 is mediocre, at the ones that are known NOT to prep, it is very good. The ongoing schools aren't as dumb as people think they are when it comes to scores.

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      07.19.09, 11:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • My DD received a 95 with an excellent write up. We are totally unconnected and new to the area. Never over thought it...no prepping or tutors. She was accepted at a TT and our FC. Just remember a 95 is the 95'th percentile in the nation. You have a brilliant child...congratulations![ Reply | Options ] 05.21.09, 10:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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        07.19.09, 03:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • There are close to 1000 kids a year who get at least 95. VERY homogeneous group. The test is normed nationally, so includes kids being assessed for various delays.

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          07.19.09, 03:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ALL the writeups are "excellent".

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          07.19.09, 03:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • You were very fortunate. 95 on the upper east side of Manhattan is probably not a whole lot better than average. Our daughter was 99x3 and did not get into any of her first choices. Who can say why they didn't like us but they didn't. My guess is that there are just so many high scoring girls in this part of town and so few places that getting in is a bit like winning the lottery.

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          07.19.09, 05:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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