Is a combined score of the 95th percentile on the ERBs considered good?

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  • Is a combined score of the 95th percentile on the ERBs considered good?

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    • Yes, it puts dc in the running for TT. But you still must apply broadly. In other words, the score does not rule out any school but in this day and age you need to apply to all types of schools. GL

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      07.19.09, 07:44 AM Flag
    • Among NYC applicants for private K, it's average.

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      07.19.09, 07:57 AM Flag
      • ITA. Unfortunately. And though "they" say scores don't matter it will or will not keep you in running. Use your connections.

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        07.19.09, 08:02 AM Flag
        • Right, and 95 will keep her dc in the running.

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          07.19.09, 08:05 AM Flag
          • np There are a HUGE number of kids with 95s. The kid would have to seriously stand out in order to get into tt with 95.

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            07.19.09, 08:11 AM Flag
            • Please, there are tons of dc at TT who earned a 95. Schools really don't differentiate that much between a 95 and a 98

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              07.19.09, 08:13 AM Flag
              • "Tons"? Unlikely.

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                07.19.09, 08:15 AM Flag
              • Except when it comes time to find the factors that differentiate them. Not my rule, don't get mad at me.

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                07.19.09, 08:15 AM Flag
                • ita

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                  07.19.09, 08:18 AM Flag
                • Who's mad? I just happen to know that you are incorrect. It is their own assessment of the children that they use to differentiate these dc.

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                  07.19.09, 08:18 AM Flag
                  • np The erb is used to cull the applicant pool. If a kid with a so so score wows on playdate and has a fabulous playdate and maybe a high SB to submit, great. Otherwise, the erb score is to pare down the number of dcs they have to take a close look at. These schools have hundreds and hundreds of applicants and fairly small admissions staffs--they don't have the time to look at every kid in microscopic detail.

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                    07.19.09, 08:33 AM Flag
                    • True, which is why generally 95+ is the unofficial cut-off. Also, all these schools administer their own IQ assessments and have psychologists present and taking notes during play dates.

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                      07.19.09, 08:36 AM Flag
                    • Can you submit SB? My DC scored 99 on SB but much lower on ERB.

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                      07.19.09, 08:48 AM Flag
                      • Ask psd. But, yes, if there's a big difference, psds are often willing to submit SB to help your app.

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                        07.19.09, 09:12 AM Flag
            • nnp: Sure, but 95 will certainly not put you in a no pile. If dc has a great interview, s/he can absolutely get into a TT with that score.

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              07.19.09, 08:14 AM Flag
              • OK. But there are enough kids with high 90s to fill most tt seats--even after the obvious prep/badly behaved/obnoxious parents kids are taken out of the equation.

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                07.19.09, 08:17 AM Flag
                • Bottom line: if your dc gets 95 you can at least breathe and focus on interviews and school visits. Those really do carry a lot of weight. But it's all a big crap shoot. Besides siblings and legacies there's no reasonable standard.

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                  07.19.09, 08:21 AM Flag
                  • Absolutely true.

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                    07.19.09, 08:24 AM Flag
                  • Sorry, but it's MUCH easier to get into the school of your choice with a high 99 erb than with a 95. The highest scores obviously stand out as there aren't that many of them--those kids get a special look.

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                    07.19.09, 08:30 AM Flag
                    • Dinged w/98.

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                      07.19.09, 08:32 AM Flag
                      • ^^ w/good visits/interviews from tt pre-k. it is what it is. No connections.

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                        07.19.09, 08:33 AM Flag
                        • "No connections" and "tt pre-k" isn't a great combo for admissions. Your kid is last in line after legacies, the super wealthy and, likely, many sibs.

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                          07.19.09, 08:37 AM Flag
                        • my child went to a non tt prek scored a 95 and got into several tt. We weren't competing with to many people and she had an excellent teach report.

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                          07.19.09, 09:29 AM Flag
                      • "MUCH easier" doesn't mean it's guaranteed. And you never know what was in that school report...

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                        07.19.09, 08:35 AM Flag
                    • Still they need to prove themselves at the interview. And if a 95 has a great day it can totally be done. In fact, my BFF's son got into Collegiate with a 92 because he nailed his school visit.

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                      07.19.09, 09:41 AM Flag
                      • This totally turns upside down the UB assumption that only 95 and above get a close look (and anything other than that is automatically in the "no" pile). My personal theory is that anything above 90 gets a close look, and once you're past that cutoff, it's not about the ERB anymore, it's about the playdate and school report The 99s who are truly outstanding will stand out in these areas as well, but a 91 who shines will always get picked over a 99s who isn't "all that" in real life, whether prepped or not. -np

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                        07.19.09, 11:20 AM Flag
                        • The vast majority of kids taking wppsi for erb purposes get 90+--and they aren't ALL getting a "close look".

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                          07.19.09, 11:40 AM Flag
                        • Why not? Most schools do the school visits with limited number of kids at the time and so each dc has a chance to stand out there. And if that happens they do go back to look at the rest of the package.

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                          07.19.09, 11:55 AM Flag
                        • Right. But if a 90 and a 99 have similar profiles aside from their scores, the 99 will get the spot (at least at tt--might be rejected at other schools without indication the school is fc or top three).

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                          07.19.09, 03:52 PM Flag
    • give it a rest already

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      07.19.09, 09:28 AM Flag
      • Oh its just started...The score thing is in a post above too.

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        07.19.09, 09:38 AM Flag
        • i saw that. i don't even have school boards selected, but i still have to read through this crap. ub sucks because i can't collapse a post and keep it that way after i refresh

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          07.19.09, 09:39 AM Flag
          • and the I got a... and got in and you must be... not to get in and blah blah blah.

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            07.19.09, 09:41 AM Flag
    • I really think it depends what preK you're applying from. Applying from a preK that's known to prep the kids, a 95 is mediocre, at the ones that are known NOT to prep, it is very good. The ongoing schools aren't as dumb as people think they are when it comes to scores.

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      07.19.09, 11:10 AM Flag
      • My DD received a 95 with an excellent write up. We are totally unconnected and new to the area. Never over thought it...no prepping or tutors. She was accepted at a TT and our FC. Just remember a 95 is the 95'th percentile in the nation. You have a brilliant child...congratulations![ Reply | Options ] 05.21.09, 10:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]

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        07.19.09, 03:50 PM Flag
        • There are close to 1000 kids a year who get at least 95. VERY homogeneous group. The test is normed nationally, so includes kids being assessed for various delays.

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          07.19.09, 03:54 PM Flag
        • ALL the writeups are "excellent".

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          07.19.09, 03:55 PM Flag
        • You were very fortunate. 95 on the upper east side of Manhattan is probably not a whole lot better than average. Our daughter was 99x3 and did not get into any of her first choices. Who can say why they didn't like us but they didn't. My guess is that there are just so many high scoring girls in this part of town and so few places that getting in is a bit like winning the lottery.

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          07.19.09, 05:27 PM Flag
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