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I am shocked. DC got an offer for incoming 2nd grade to Lower Lab. I truly expected NO offer. I am overjoyed, of course

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  • I am shocked. DC got an offer for incoming 2nd grade to Lower Lab. I truly expected NO offer. I am overjoyed, of course

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    07.02.09, 06:59 PM Flag ]
    • ^Anyone else get an offer for 2nd to LL or other school? I honestly did not even think this would be a possibility so really need to do a lot of research. Any guidance from LL parents appreciated, in any form!

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      07.02.09, 07:01 PM Flag
      • LL parent here: what would you like to know?

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        07.02.09, 07:09 PM Flag
        • Do you think there is a real shot at it becoming K-8? I know this is basic stuff, but I honestly didn't even think this was possible so don't know it: is there foreign language instruction? how is MS placement? do you think the Everyday math is an issue?

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          07.02.09, 07:14 PM Flag
          • Actually, I do think there's a decent chance of it becoming K-8. Our new principal comes from Anderson and seems really committed to making this happen. As of now, we have a Spanish program for K-2 and next year, we will have a Latin program starting in 3rd grade (no more Spanish at that point). As far as I can tell, people are happy with their MS placement. Most go to selective public middle schools, like Upper Lab or East Side Middle. A few go to private or citywides and a few to gen ed middles. The math program is probably LL's weakest point, though I think it's comparable to all the other District 2 public schools. I personally like the intuitive math and think it's an improvement over the way we learned it. Quite frankly, I can't keep the differences b/w all the different math programs straight.

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            07.02.09, 07:18 PM Flag
            • ^^^I think the end got cut off, I was saying that I can't keep all the different math programs straight.

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              07.02.09, 07:19 PM Flag
              • op: thanks! do you know the rational for doing Spanish for 3 years, then switch to Latin? I understand either choice, but not the reasoning for the switch. I believe our school now is some sort of modified Everyday or TERC math, but can't ever get a straight answer. I just know dc is completely bored with it. How is the science progam - is it a separate teacher and instruction?

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                07.02.09, 07:22 PM Flag
                • It's because the Spanish program that is in place isn't really appropriate for 3rd and up, but it's a nice introductory program for younger kids. And, they really can't start Latin any younger than 3rd. This is going to be the first year for Latin so I guess we'll see how it goes and eventually figure out what the overall language program should look like. We do have a separate Science teacher and science room.

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                  07.02.09, 07:25 PM Flag
                  • the latin thing seems like a bad idea. 3rd grade is not the best time to start latin imo. also, why not givee the kids a language they can learn to speak. or even a choice?

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                    07.02.09, 07:26 PM Flag
                    • Personally, I wasn't a supporter of it, but there is research that supports both sides, so I'm going to try to have a positive attitude going into it.

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                      07.02.09, 07:27 PM Flag
                      • np--What research supports learning Latin in 3rd grade? How do you explain case in nouns to a 3rd grader?

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                        07.02.09, 07:39 PM Flag
                        • its a gimmick.

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                          07.02.09, 07:45 PM Flag
                        • OR: apparently, there are ways to teach it to younger kids that don't involve all the grammar. I don't know the details but know that there is research supporting it.

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                          07.02.09, 09:32 PM Flag
                        • Np and latin teacher: Gimmick. But some kids could have some fun with it.

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                          07.03.09, 09:43 AM Flag
                  • Thanks. The current website says gr 3-5 have an 8 week choice of Spanish elective. Will this continue? Also how many 2nd grade classes are there?

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                    07.02.09, 07:30 PM Flag
                    • ^also, is there anything "special" in terms of a unique program or offering that LL is known for? We did actually tour the school about 5 years ago back pre-OLSAT for 1st dc so I know the facilities are good, but did not re-tour now b/c I really thought placement was an impossibility.

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                      07.02.09, 07:33 PM Flag
                      • Not sure about the Spanish elective -- I think it will still be offered during lunch or after school. There are 2 sections in each grade, incl 2nd. There are several "enrichment" programs, including a theater program, architecture/bridges and an outside writing program

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                        07.02.09, 09:33 PM Flag
                    • why do publics only teach spanish? whatever happened to french and german?

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                      07.02.09, 07:33 PM Flag
    • Congratulations!!

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      07.02.09, 07:01 PM Flag
    • are you serious, or lying?

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      07.02.09, 07:02 PM Flag
      • serious. why would i lie?

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        07.02.09, 07:12 PM Flag
        • you are the only one posting about getting results. seems odd.

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          07.02.09, 07:16 PM Flag
          • no, someone earlier posted that they got the email also. no offer. my email went to the junk folder but is there.

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            07.02.09, 07:19 PM Flag
            • still...only 2 people in all of UB land? impossibe.

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              07.02.09, 07:32 PM Flag
              • again, what's impossible about it? I'm sure a LL parent on here will be able to verify that there is at least *some* attrition at higher grades, esp in this economy. I believe (though maybe I'm wrong?) that DOE requires the schools to fill the seats so wouldn't they have to offer to someone?

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                07.02.09, 07:34 PM Flag
                • its more about the fact that no one has been notified yet. you are FOS.

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                  07.02.09, 07:46 PM Flag
                  • I have no idea why I keep replying to you since you are clearly just trying to annoy me. But here's the quote of the first part of the email, "Dear Parent/Guardian: The Office of Student Enrollment is pleased to inform you that your child has received an offer to the Gifted and Talented Program at: 02M077: P.S. 77 LOWER LAB SCHOOLGrade: 2Address: 1700 3 AVENUE , MANHATTAN, NY, 10128Phone: 212-427-2798." What other info would you feel was necessary to make you believe this?

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                    07.02.09, 07:49 PM Flag
                    • np; don't bother with these people who call everyone fake. I don't understand people like that.

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                      07.02.09, 07:59 PM Flag
                      • notice how no one else has reported hearing. cannot believe she is the only UBer who has heard.

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                        07.03.09, 10:28 AM Flag
                        • Everyone called me fake when I said we got Hunter accept last yr. I had to type the letter to prove it. No idea why I got it first. Anyway, maybe OP heard first bec it's an offyear accept? I mean, don't count on DOE to be all uniform and organized. I got G&T results by fedex and it was all messed up.

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                          07.03.09, 10:43 AM Flag
                        • actually one other person posted that their dc got a 98 and they got no offer. search "2nd." it's a response to what is currently the 8th search result and was posted prior to this one.

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                          07.03.09, 09:15 PM Flag
        • My cousin got her son in last year for 3rd grade. I posted about it last week. It was a life-saver for her. Her son was in private and she got financially dessimated (sp) by the divorce after it was found out her ex-husband had all this hidden debt.

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          07.02.09, 07:21 PM Flag
          • nice of you to out your cousin and spread her dirty laundry here given how her dc may be easily identified at the school.

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            07.02.09, 07:24 PM Flag
            • NP: I was just thinking that. She probably doesn't realize how few kids get in at that grade level.

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              07.02.09, 07:27 PM Flag
              • oh please. she is on ny schools board. she knows what she is doing. probably not a "cousin"

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                07.02.09, 07:29 PM Flag
            • She's not ashamed of what happened, why should she be. Are you going to run up on her to ask about her divorce. I'm sure she'll slap the taste out of your mouth.

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              07.02.09, 07:29 PM Flag
              • you both sound lovely.

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                07.02.09, 07:30 PM Flag
                • She's quite lovely. She doesn't stand around gossiping about little kids based on information on UB.

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                  07.02.09, 07:34 PM Flag
                  • well, you are the one gossiping. funny how you can't see that.

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                    07.02.09, 07:56 PM Flag
                    • the point is, you could have shared the fact that they got in without sharing that her ex-dh had hidden debt

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                      07.02.09, 09:35 PM Flag
          • decimated--I think it relates to wiping out a tenth of a regiment.

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            07.02.09, 07:36 PM Flag
            • Ha. Ha. You're right. But, it's fun to say. And I did change the details to protect the innocent.

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              07.02.09, 07:38 PM Flag
    • Congratulations!! Where is the dc at now?

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      07.02.09, 07:06 PM Flag
      • 3rd tier private

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        07.02.09, 07:14 PM Flag
        • bs post.

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          07.02.09, 07:17 PM Flag
          • op: I'm not really sure which part of my post you are having trouble believing. Obviously I prefer not to out our current school in a negative way - they have been kind, but dc are not challenged and we can't afford it (though aid may be available).

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            07.02.09, 07:24 PM Flag
    • Yeah for you and DC!!!!!!!!!!! An NYC fairy tale...

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      07.02.09, 07:08 PM Flag
    • LL parent: It's a great school! But you need to look at everything for your DC and family. DC will get an absolutely amazing education at LL. It's heavily funded with a great principal, awesome teachers and a very supportive (if not overzealous) PTA. Gotta consider where you are now, and if your family wants to transition. It's still a "young" grade, but if DC and your family is truly happy where you're at, you might want to stay where you're at.

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      07.02.09, 07:15 PM Flag
      • not very welcoming. sheesh...

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        07.02.09, 07:17 PM Flag
        • I agree. What was that all about.

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          07.02.09, 07:18 PM Flag
          • I'm the LL parent who posted above. I see nothing wrong with her response. She's just giving both sides and saying that it might not be worth rocking the boat if OP is happy. Settle down, people!

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            07.02.09, 07:20 PM Flag
            • ^^^I mean, I'm not the one who posted this last part, but I posted above about the MS placement, languages and everyday math

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              07.02.09, 07:21 PM Flag
              • sorry, but it was half hearted welcome at best. obviously if OP were happy, she wouldn't have applied to G&T for 3rd grade. LL parent is presumptuous and arrogant. also may not want class size to increase.

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                07.02.09, 07:28 PM Flag
                • hmm, I didn't take it that way at all

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                  07.02.09, 09:36 PM Flag
      • op: we are not particularly happy where we are (not unhappy, but don't see the value for the cost), nor can we continue to afford private so that's a moot point. The other option is moving out of the city.

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        07.02.09, 07:20 PM Flag
    • OP: Adding to the complicated decision is that we have an older dc in same current private who we did not apply out to G&T for (my fault, though not sure if dc would have made if of course). So either way dc will be split up.

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      07.02.09, 07:25 PM Flag
      • tough decision. let us know what you decide!

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        07.02.09, 07:26 PM Flag
        • thanks! I think that barring a move out of the city, we will take it. It's such a wonderful surprise in an otherwise personally horrible year for our family!

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          07.02.09, 07:43 PM Flag
    • GREAT!!! I am really glad it worked out for you! Good luck!

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      07.03.09, 04:25 AM Flag
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