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Dating Advice needed! About two weeks ago I had my first "date" with a guy i've been friends with for two years. he found out i was single and asked me to dinner at his apt- he cooked, and we had an amazing time. he wrote the next day to say he wanted to see me the following weekend but then didn't contact me again till saturday when he called me and asked if I was free that night. i met him after dinner (i had plans with friends) and we had another amazing night. just kissing. i left apt at 5 am and we chatted about getting together the following weekend but now it's tuesday and no word from him. i dont' want to hold my weekend open but i have a feeling he's going to do the same thing- call friday or sat to make plans- and So I'm debating whether i should a) wait around till he calls and keep myself fairly free so I can see him (bec I want to see him)- but I don't want to be free yet again when he calls or b) send him another email this time being more direct- i was thinking something humorous but yet straightforward: If you would like to get together this weekend, let me know asap as my dance card is filling fast" or is that too forward/desperate? maybe give him one more night and then send the email tomorrow?

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  • Dating Advice needed! About two weeks ago I had my first "date" with a guy i've been friends with for two years. he found out i was single and asked me to dinner at his apt- he cooked, and we had an amazing time. he wrote the next day to say he wanted to see me the following weekend but then didn't contact me again till saturday when he called me and asked if I was free that night. i met him after dinner (i had plans with friends) and we had another amazing night. just kissing. i left apt at 5 am and we chatted about getting together the following weekend but now it's tuesday and no word from him. i dont' want to hold my weekend open but i have a feeling he's going to do the same thing- call friday or sat to make plans- and So I'm debating whether i should a) wait around till he calls and keep myself fairly free so I can see him (bec I want to see him)- but I don't want to be free yet again when he calls or b) send him another email this time being more direct- i was thinking something humorous but yet straightforward: If you would like to get together this weekend, let me know asap as my dance card is filling fast" or is that too forward/desperate? maybe give him one more night and then send the email tomorrow?

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    06.02.09, 01:20 PM Flag ]
    • just one person's opinion here, but when a man calls on saturday, for a date on saturday, the answer's always "i'm busy". next time he'll think ahead if he really wants to see you, and if not you have your answer.

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      06.02.09, 01:22 PM Flag
      • OP: the answer was i'm busy till 10 pm and then i met him. that's exactly why i want to let him know now, in a clear way, that he needs to plan in advance with me.

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        06.02.09, 01:23 PM Flag
        • The answer should have been I'm busy period.

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          06.02.09, 01:25 PM Flag
        • simplest thing is to say: I usually make plans earlier in the week. I have plans for this Saturday.

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          06.02.09, 01:27 PM Flag
        • lol...excactly! the point is he does NOT get to see you when you're an afterthought.

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          06.02.09, 01:57 PM Flag
          • np: completely disagree. if she's free she's free. and she wanted to see him. why play games???

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            06.02.09, 02:09 PM Flag
            • it's not games, it's respect. besides it doesn't seem to be working with this guy, does it?

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              06.02.09, 04:20 PM Flag
      • ITA!! If he doesn't ask by Wed. then he is SOL. And whatever you do, DON'T email him and say you are waiting for him to ask you out. Make plans and forget about him. If he likes you, he'll get the picture.

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        06.02.09, 01:24 PM Flag
        • OP: I'm not sure in this case. we're good friends. if we are together it will be serious. i think being upfront might be best- ie "i'd love to see you but if i dont' hear from you soon then i'm going to make plans".

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          06.02.09, 01:27 PM Flag
          • he just might need some "re-training" to be more considerate about you

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            06.02.09, 01:28 PM Flag
          • That's giving him an ultimatum - seriously, don't do that

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            06.02.09, 01:28 PM Flag
            • np: I agree with the retraining and it isn't an ultimatum if done in a funny and honest way.

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              06.02.09, 01:29 PM Flag
          • Oh no don't do that -- too needy! If he doesn't know that he should call you early in the week for a Saturday night date then he's a lame brain.

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            06.02.09, 01:34 PM Flag
        • OP: what does SOL mean? in a way I kind of want to be upfront with him and not let this dribble on slowly- and i think retraining a good thing

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          06.02.09, 01:32 PM Flag
          • Shit out of luck

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            06.02.09, 01:33 PM Flag
          • you were married and have kids, don't start with the games already. be upfront, you and he should an honest approach to a relationship.

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            06.02.09, 01:36 PM Flag
            • OP: so do you think I SHOULD email him or not?

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              06.02.09, 01:37 PM Flag
              • YES>

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                06.02.09, 01:38 PM Flag
              • Truly, this would be the third date, move it to this century lady.

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                06.02.09, 01:39 PM Flag
                • OP: please explain what you mean by 3rd date, this century- i'm baffled!

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                  06.02.09, 01:49 PM Flag
    • call him to see if he wants to do anything at all b/c you are thinking about visiting your friend out of town

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      06.02.09, 01:26 PM Flag
      • np: that's great! I agree with this advice. they casually discussed getting together so it makes sense she would check in with him.

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        06.02.09, 01:27 PM Flag
        • No it isn't! She's giving him all the power. He will know that she is planning her weekend around him. Bad idea!

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          06.02.09, 01:29 PM Flag
          • OP: so maybe better to say something like "shall we try to meet up this weekend as discussed?" then he has to propose a time. my kids are gone so I am quite free.

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            06.02.09, 01:30 PM Flag
            • No, more like what would you like to do this weekend since my kids will be away. Let's do something fun together.

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              06.02.09, 01:33 PM Flag
    • My really great husband of 17 years was like that, don't let that put you off to a good guy.

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      06.02.09, 01:27 PM Flag
      • OP: you mean it was hard for him to make plans? yes, he is a great guy and he has told me that he always leaves everything till the last minute. i know he is very into me- know this from mutual friends. so that's why i thought asking him in a friendly funny way whether he wanted to get together would be a good little nudge.

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        06.02.09, 01:28 PM Flag
        • Yes, dh hates to make plans and even now after this many years of marriage I make all our plans. That's okay since we bring different aspects into our relationship. He is a great provider, dad and partner.

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          06.02.09, 01:32 PM Flag
        • so the guy isn't very organized. Figure out a way to let him know you need more warning. It's not a reason to cause problems, but you can't just be available for his vague plans.

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          06.02.09, 01:33 PM Flag
          • exactly. that's exactly what i'm trying to figure out- the last thing i want is to wait until the weekend and get another call- i know i will get that call- i know from his friends that he wants to date me- that's why i was thinking something humorous but yet straightforward: If you would like to get together this weekend, let me know asap as my dance card is filling fast"- is that ok?

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            06.02.09, 01:35 PM Flag
            • (np) Just ask him out already. "Hey, do you want to do X on Saturday night?"

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              06.02.09, 01:37 PM Flag
            • yes, anything light and conversational is fine. You want him to know that you are interested in seeing him but also that you aren't going to be sitting at home by the phone for last minute plans.

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              06.02.09, 01:47 PM Flag
              • OP: precisely. better to get this established now.

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                06.02.09, 01:49 PM Flag
    • My response, "Oh, I wish you had called earlier. I've already made plans". If he gets the message he gets it, if he doesn't, no great loss. You do want to be a priority with the man you fall in love with, right?

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      06.02.09, 01:34 PM Flag
      • and no meeting him late night either.

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        06.02.09, 01:35 PM Flag
      • Don't do this because he will think you are playing him. Call him now to see if you would like to see you because you would like to have a plan in place for the weekend as it appears that you are free.

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        06.02.09, 01:38 PM Flag
        • OP: what is this that would make him think I'm playing him? I completely agree with those of you who say I should just contact him- in fact it would be weird if i didn't and then went ahead and made other plans- it's just the right tone/note to strike that i'm searching for . . .

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          06.02.09, 01:40 PM Flag
        • How do you know what this man is going to think?

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          06.02.09, 01:44 PM Flag
      • I would say this and then ADD, do you want to make plans for next weekend and that way he knows you are intersted, but not last minute.

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        06.02.09, 01:50 PM Flag
    • Why can't you call and say, "hey -- I was thinking about seeing The Taking of Pelham 123 this weekend -- you wanna join me?" Honestly, I can't believe you have to wait for the guy to call you. Especially if you've been friends a while.

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      06.02.09, 01:37 PM Flag
      • See above - you wait b/c you want to be his priority. If you don't start out that way, you'll never end up that way.

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        06.02.09, 01:39 PM Flag
        • Don't think this way, you WILL be his priority because he loves you not because you played games with him.

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          06.02.09, 01:40 PM Flag
          • how do you define games? what would constitute game playing on her part?

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            06.02.09, 01:41 PM Flag
          • They aren't games. You need to just let the guy take the lead. You aren't going to miraculously become his priority if you weren't to begin with. This thread explains why so many women on UB are so unhappy in their marriages - they probably chased their dhs!

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            06.02.09, 01:42 PM Flag
        • np: If he is not a planner she is not going to change him. This is a grown man with children not a college student. Either she can handle him as he is, or she needs to look for someone else.

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          06.02.09, 01:41 PM Flag
          • ITTTTA. If he is a good guy and it sounds like he is, move on the planning part.

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            06.02.09, 01:42 PM Flag
            • OP: yep you nailed it. he isn't a planner, he's been upfront abt that. i think waiting around would make me desperate. moving ahead and nailing a plan is the way to move forward with him.

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              06.02.09, 01:48 PM Flag
              • Why do you want to be involved with a man with a character trait that ALREADY drives you crazy? It will only get worse with time.

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                06.02.09, 01:57 PM Flag
                • OP: doesnt' drive me crazy, i've dated others like this. we just need to be upfront and out in the open abt it. i can handle it once there is commitment.

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                  06.02.09, 02:03 PM Flag
      • a dh: You I like. I hate all the bullshit about dating. He has power... she has control... Who cares? If you like this company call him. I swear, US/Korea relations are no harder than dating in NYC.

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        06.02.09, 01:50 PM Flag
        • OP: thank you DH! I appreciate it. whether it's me or the Pelham 123 lady you like. pelham 123 lady i like you too!

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          06.02.09, 01:54 PM Flag
          • I meant the Pelham 123 lady. But I'm fickle so I can like you, too. Basically, if you leave the drama beind -- I'm happy.

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            06.02.09, 01:59 PM Flag
    • This is simple: Do you want to be his last minute thing or do you want to be a priority in his week? You decide.

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      06.02.09, 01:46 PM Flag
      • Thank you!

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        06.02.09, 01:46 PM Flag
      • np: you're being too simplistic. some people aren't good at making plans and in fact she is finding out now whether in fact she could be a priority. she's making it clear to him that she needs forwarning. if he can't give that to her, then she can move on. contact him op.

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        06.02.09, 01:51 PM Flag
        • How has she made this clear to him? I must have missed that part.

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          06.02.09, 01:53 PM Flag
          • that's the whole point of this thread right? she's trying to figure out how to phrase an email or call to him which will make it clear that vague plans don't cut it with her and that she has the confidence to nail the plan.

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            06.02.09, 01:56 PM Flag
            • I thought she was trying to figure out IF she should call him. Not HOW

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              06.02.09, 01:59 PM Flag
        • yeah, god forbid he made an effort.

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          06.02.09, 04:21 PM Flag
    • Personally, I would be insulted with a Saturday call for a Saturday date. I would make other plans and stick to them. You won't die if you miss a date with this guy one weekend.

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      06.02.09, 01:48 PM Flag
    • I see it now - OP will call him, they'll date, get married, she'll be back here a year later complaining that dh never makes plans, never thinks of her etc.

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      06.02.09, 01:48 PM Flag
      • Sing it Sister!!!!!!!!!

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        06.02.09, 01:52 PM Flag
      • dh above: Or they'll get married and she'll be here talking about how much she loves her man. I'm a shitty planner but a great husband.

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        06.02.09, 01:56 PM Flag
        • So you think!

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          06.02.09, 01:58 PM Flag
          • Granted, I'm not completely dispassionate -- how's this -- I'm better than average.

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            06.02.09, 02:02 PM Flag
        • I am married to one of you guys, and he is a great husband.

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          06.02.09, 02:09 PM Flag
          • Better than avg dh: I wish I could take credit but my dw thinks UB is dumb.

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            06.02.09, 02:19 PM Flag
    • I don't mean to sound like a prude but you were there until 5 am and you are claiming that all you guys did was kiss?

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      06.02.09, 01:50 PM Flag
      • OP: yep. that's all we did. i don't sleep with guys until there's commitment.

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        06.02.09, 01:54 PM Flag
      • avg+ dh: My first date with DW went until 5am. We didn't do anything more than kiss. My cab ride home (where I showered, dressed and went to work) was a blue-balled painful experience. (I had never had painful blue balls before and always thought it was a myth.) Funny memory.

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        06.02.09, 02:23 PM Flag
    • Women these days make it WAY too easy for the men....sigh

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      06.02.09, 01:52 PM Flag
    • My dh is also very very bad about making plans. Even now with kids, he seems to think that we can still be spontaneous. It's a very normal guy thing, and since it's obviously not a booty call, may just be his way of doing things. I'd say go ahead and make plans if something you want to do comes up, and then if he does call, just ask if he wants to join you.

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      06.02.09, 03:31 PM Flag
    • If you have an invitation to do something else that you would ordinarily accept, I would do so. If he calls you and you've made other plans you can always make plans with him for another day. Or maybe you can invite him along. Of course if you really want to see him who says you can't suggest getting together rather than putting the onus on him to do so. If you email him I would suggest a specific plan, like a movie or an exhibit you want to see, rather than asking him to ask you out.

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      06.02.09, 03:53 PM Flag
    • look, if you don't want to "play games" and say you're busy when he calls at the last minute, actually BE busy. by wednesday or thursday make your plans for friday and saturday night and stick to them. that means YOU time as well, so if you're home and you want time alone he'll have to wait.

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      06.02.09, 04:23 PM Flag
    • i think it sends the wrong message to make your weekend plans revolve around him, and especially to let him know that you are doing that. go ahead and plan whatever you were going to plan and when/if he calls, you can say you're so sorry, you already made plans, how about something for the following week/weekend? that way, he'll get the message about planning early, and you can lock in a plan about when to get together. but don't turn your life upside down for him, which is a turnoff in its own way. gl!

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      06.02.09, 09:46 PM Flag
    • Call or email him. Say - "I had fun last weekend, wanna meet up Saturday? Lemme know." You really don't need to worry about the exact wording - keep it light and breezy. When I was dating my DH I was the one who instigated the first few dates, he was totally into me but was soooo shy and had no idea howo plan things. Now he's always suggesting we go out after 6 years of marriage and with a baby on the way! Don't worry - just go ahead and contact him if you think he's worth it.

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      06.03.09, 02:24 AM Flag
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