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  • I don't want to live in a socialist country.

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    03.26.09, 09:56 AM [ Flag ]
    • Good for you. So don't move to China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, or Vietnam.

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      03.26.09, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Those are not socialist.

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        03.26.09, 10:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • actually, they are the only countries that currently subscribe to socialist (Marxism-Leninism) in their constitutions, so yes, they are socialist

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          03.26.09, 10:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • france is a socialist country, as are many other european countries including scandinavia. Marxism is communism, and that is totally different.

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            03.26.09, 10:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Actually no, France is NOT a socialist country. They have a socialist party, but they system of government is a Democratic Republic. The closest nation to a socialist democracy (what people like OP are afraid will happen in the US) is India.

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              03.26.09, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • And there are no other socialist countries in Europe either.

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                03.26.09, 10:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Well when people talk about the US becoming a socialist country they are referring to ti becoming more like contries with socialist policies like france. it is nearly impossible to fire someone in france and they mandata that no one work more than 35 hours a week. This is simialr to the government controlling the factors of production- they control the labor.

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                03.26.09, 10:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • ^^i need to learn to check my spelling before hitting reply!

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                  03.26.09, 10:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • But it is NOT a socialist country, very far from it. People need to know what they are talking about. And I bet a lot of people who were recently laid off in this country would be glad to live in a place where it is very difficult to get fired!

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                  03.26.09, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Socialist economic policies are what people fear, not marxism. get over yourself being so literal.

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                    03.26.09, 11:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • then they should say "I fear socialist economic policies", not living in a socialist country - there is a very large difference.

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                      03.26.09, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • np: the 35-hr workweek in France was for a very limited sector in society, not the whole workforce. And, there's talk of revoking it now.

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                  03.27.09, 04:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • and now we can join the group! U.S.S.A.!!!

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            03.26.09, 08:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • they are NOT socialist. China subscribes wholeheartely to capitalism. The Scandi countries are socialist. France to a degree.

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          03.26.09, 01:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • lololol

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            03.26.09, 02:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Actually, the Danes are very pro-market and the Swedes and Finns recently as well. In fact, the Swedish PM (IIRC) was recently chiding some US policies and saying "Hey, we had to clean up a banking mess in the 90s and the US is making some mistakes we made." So no, the Scandinavians are now more free-market than we are in some cases.

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            03.26.09, 03:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • China is capitalist but only governed by a group of people who called themselves "communists". And now, USA is going the opposite way, should we call ourselves 'managed capitalism'?

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            03.27.09, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Actually, they purport to be communist & most are not really in any sense that Marx would recognize

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        03.26.09, 10:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • there are no other countries that currently subscribe to socialist theories, although I agree that they are mostly gross bastardizations of true Marxist-Leninist philosophy

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          03.26.09, 10:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np: Google or your own work?

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        03.26.09, 10:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • or - I'm a political journalist so I know my facts.

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          03.26.09, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • well ok then. (I would argue you are "an informed political journalist so you know your facts." But I'm cranky and tired.)

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            03.26.09, 11:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • sorry - you're right - I try to be informed and know my facts (and I happen to have a focus on governmental policy - not US this is is sort of my subject)

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              03.26.09, 12:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Can I ask you a question, "Why do you hate Sarah Palin?"

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            03.26.09, 11:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Actually, I don't. I don't agree with her on many things, and think she is pretty ignorant, and not a good choice for VP (or President), but I don't hate her based on her beliefs.

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              03.26.09, 12:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Then we should have let the banks fail.

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      03.26.09, 10:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • And the auto industry. And the airlines. And sugar, cotton, corn...farming in general. Shall I go on?

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        03.26.09, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ITA with you.

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          03.26.09, 01:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Please do. But get the facts straight: the whole banking *industry* would not have failed, nor would the whole auto, airline, sugar, corn, etc. industry. The high-cost, inefficient producers would fail. Low-cost, efficient producers would then buy those assets and run them more efficiently. Or would you rather that we tax people who make a profit (by running their businesses well) to support people who don't run their businesses well? Go read Hazlitt's _Economics in One Lesson_.

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          03.26.09, 03:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Yeah--low-cost, efficient producers--in China. Seriously--how do you expect US producers to compete with countries who don't have to follow the same regs., don't have to pay health care, etc. etc.

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            03.27.09, 06:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • yes. then they could be rebuilt in a more intelligent manner.

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        03.26.09, 08:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • too late

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      03.26.09, 10:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • The US is so far from socialism

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      03.26.09, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • wrong-if we were our government wouldnt be trying to revive the Unions, owning many of the banks, subsidizing farmers etc

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        03.26.09, 10:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • this is not a new issue. our country has always subsidized farmers, auto industry, ranchers, oil,...

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      03.26.09, 10:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You don't. And if you stay in the U.S., you won't. Stop listening to Rush and calm down.

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      03.26.09, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • lol. go back to 1933. we've had this fight already.

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      03.26.09, 10:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You people make my brain bleed. WE ARE NOT IN A SOCIALIST COUNTRY. NOR WILL WE BE. Just because you don't like Obama it does not make him a socialist.

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      03.26.09, 11:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Stop listening to Sean Hannity. He is paid a fortune to make you believe this garbage.

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      03.26.09, 12:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • What are you afraid of? The best and the brightest having no place to practice their voodoo economics that have brought us to the brink? Or are you just afraid of progressive thinking in gov't? Or could it be that you believe that the wealthy ($250K and up) should pay proportionately less in taxes?

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      03.26.09, 12:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • What voodoo economics is that? I presume you mean encouraging people to own their homes who could not afford it? People defaulting on debt is the root of the financial problems.

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        03.26.09, 03:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I believe that the wealthy should not be punished through taxation for making money.

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        03.27.09, 03:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Do you think the US will become a socialist country under Obama? If you think so, you have NO idea what socialism really is. The US is VERY far away from socialism!

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      03.26.09, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • sorry you have never studied politics and government we already are socialist in every way but name

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        03.26.09, 02:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Obama hasn't been in office long enough to do ANYTHING - so if you think we are socialist, you can't blame him for it. FWIW, we are a DEMOCRACY, that is very very far from socialism. If you'd like to understand a true socialist society I can recommend some books for you. But we are not socialist in every way but name, very far from it.

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          03.26.09, 02:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • These posts are so annoying. It's UrbanBABY.

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      03.26.09, 08:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • if you are in america, you don't. all that notwithstanding, what do you want out of government?

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      03.27.09, 05:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • That's because you're rich and ignorant. You don't like living in this country? GET OUT! Nobody will miss you

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      03.27.09, 03:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • You'll miss her tax $$$. And the money of others who leave. Do you REALLY think Warren Buffet and Rupert Murdoch and Bill Gates will actually PAY the tax increase they're telling their buddy Obama to make? Will only hurt the quasi-rich and the middle class (because they'll eventually get hit with increases, too) who can't hide their cash off-shore.

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        03.27.09, 03:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I do, too bad Geithner is too busy cosying up to his old work cronies and giving them bonuses for gross incompetence to actually fund some good old-fashioned socialism.

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      03.27.09, 05:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Me neither. I'd much rather live in somewhere like Haiti than Sweden! Seriously, what is wrong with you people???

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      03.27.09, 05:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I here Obama will start taxing Aspirin soon. It is white and it works.

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        03.30.09, 12:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Do you? Do you really "here" that?

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          03.30.09, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Do you have a degree in writing? I rarely spellcheck. This is a board to share opinions, I guess you have one. You don't like my joke. I am sorry if it makes you uncomfortable. Truth hurts. By the way I studied socialism first hand, from socialist textbooks in a different language. Definitions are many:

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            03.30.09, 04:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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