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Someone please share the story of what happened when you blew the whistle on the "zone cheater family" at your public school. How did that turn out for you?
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is your school overcrowded? did this happen this past year? because the schools used to turn a blind eye. not anymore.
[ Reply | More ]this happened 2 years ago (07-08 schoolyear). Overcrowded, highly sought-after school in Brooklyn. The whistle blower was very forthcoming about it, basically waged an open campaign against the offenders
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yes. the rules changed for the '09 school year. this was discussed at nearly every school tour and open house i attended. "sorry, we can't bend the rules anymore. there are consequences and the doe doesn't allow it."
[ Reply | More ]at the school i'm talking about that rule has been in place for the past 5 years at least, but it still didn't work.
[ Reply | More ]you misunderstand. the schools don't set the rules now, the doe does, and if they don't expel a cheater, they are punished by the doe.
[ Reply | More ]The DOE can barely enforce their own academic policies. At a VERY crowded UES public , my DD goes to, there is a family with several kids who I know are out of the district. They are involved with the school and the principal ignores it. I think it will be harder going forward but whistle blowing only makes you look like a PITA
[ Reply | More ]is this in the chancellor's regs? most schools now are just choosing to enforce the rules that have been in place for many years. If there has been an actual change in policy in the last year, could you please post a link?
[ Reply | More ]they are not choosing to enforce the rules, they are being made to by the doe. if there is a suspicion that someone is using a false address, the school MUST initiate an investigation. here is the link. scroll down to section vii, part B, about halfway down, the graf beginning "Falsification and Investigation of Residency."
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i know a family that the school discovered had used a false address before the first day of school and they were not allowed to attend the school. it is a very popular school with a lottery and people trying to get a spot were thrilled.
[ Reply | More ]I know a family with 4 dcs using false address for desirable zoned school. Not my zoned school but good friends.
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no, it's not even my school plus I really like them, wouldn't turn them in. minding my own business.
[ Reply | More ]^^^ i was just pointing out that people here really take advantage. don't know why the doe isn't stricter, e.g., home visits, once you leave a district, you're out. end of story.
[ Reply | More ]so let's say you live in a desirable school zone. let's say your dc goes there and is thriving. then let's say you divorce, or one of you loses your job, or SHIT happens and you have to move -- you think it's perfectly reasonable to make YOUR child change schools, leave friends and routine and teachers he or she loves and is happy with? No, of course not -- you are only applying that standard to THEIR kids. Asswipe.
[ Reply | More ]If you stay in NYC, your child is entitled to continue attending the school you originally (and LEGALLY) enrolled in. SO I'm not sure where you're seeing a double standard.
[ Reply | More ]I really wasn't sure what above poster was talking about in terms of double standard, esp bc dcs are not in nyc public and I am not squealing on anyone. However, I think this rule is ridiculous, and unique to nyc publics, and maybe one reason the publics are plagued with overcrowding and various other problems.
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I have a friend who rented in a desirable neighborhood in Brooklyn for years. Her kids are in that school. She bought a row house nearby but out of the zone. Every year somebody gets it in their head that she cheated. She corrects their transparent subterfuge once. If that doesn't work (it never does) she and I have fun with the busy body.
[ Reply | More ]if she's now out of the zone, doesn't she have to change to the school zone where her row house is?
[ Reply | More ]no -- and this is the huge misconception 90 percent of the rabid UBers seem to have. Once a child has enrolled in the school, that child is allowed to finish at the school, as long as he or she lives in New York City.
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sibs get in AFTER zoned sibs and zoned non-sibs. btw, many of us know the rules and of course know this person is entitled to send her dcs to the school (AFTER zoned sibs and zoned non-sibs are seated, of course.) the issue is NEW families who LIE to get dcs into a school. totally different ball of wax. but of course, the snotty poster above wants to lump us all into the same dimwit category. which is odd, since she's accusing people of lumping her friend into the same cheater category as the liars.
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About 2/3 of my daughters 4th grade class lives outside the zone of our school, which now admits kids through a lottery and has way more applicants than there are spots. This is because for years it was an "up-and-coming" school and therefore it was pretty easy to apply into it from out of zone. Now it is one of the top schools in Brooklyn. You freaks that have ZERO tolerance for out-of-zone kids, no matter the circumstances or history: would you have the out of zone kids transferred to another school? Where? Many of their zoned schools are already way overcrowded.
[ Reply | More ]^^^ in fact, it's the parents who made the decision many years ago to risk it and send their dcs to our school whom we have to thank, not ostracize and point fingers at. They sent their kids and got involved and turned the whole school around. Now, can any of you holier than thou types say the same thing?
[ Reply | More ]no one is saying that families who were upfront about their out-of-zone addresses and were let in under different, more lenient policies years ago should be expelled. we are talking about new families LYING to get into an overcrowded school that doesn't have seats for in-zone dcs.
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