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  • What percentage (ball park) of children enter K at the top private ongoings able to read fluently? TIA

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    02.27.09, 09:22 AM [ Flag ]
    • 82.2%

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      02.27.09, 09:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My friend is a k teacher at one and said that 1/2 the class comes in reading, not all fluently.

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      02.27.09, 09:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • DS' St. Bernard's class (not this year), I would say over half the kids were reading chapter books coming into K, but the school still starts at the beginning with letter sounds, phonics, etc... They say so many children have a huge storehouse of sight words that they want to be sure everyone can "break the code" before moving on to harder texts, no matter how well the kids already seem to be reading. FWIW, DS was reading Magic Tree House level books when he started K at 5, and a lot of his friends were reading "The Zack Files," "Stories Julian Tells," "Cam Jansen," that level.

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        02.27.09, 11:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • In DC's K class this year it was about a third. By this point in the year all of them are reading somewhat, and about half are reading fluently.

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      02.27.09, 09:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Damn. I have a summer dc, and we missed a year. She is staring K this fall and has been reading chapter books for a year now. Will she be bored?

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        02.27.09, 09:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np My spring dd started tt k at 5. Was reading chapter books. They break them into groups by ability for reading and math. She was fine.

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          02.27.09, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Thanks. I am so upset about the whole summer things. However, I agree, that she was not mature enough last year.

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            02.27.09, 10:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • It really, really bugs me when I read posts like these (and there seems to be one every day). Did you not pay any attention during your tours? All the private schools group children by ability for core subjects. Your child will be in a reading group with other kids who read at a similar level. Maybe not in K, if formal reading doesn't start until 1st grade, but that would be at a school where K isn't academic anyway (and there is no reason your little genious should be bored playing with her peers in K).

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          02.27.09, 10:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • OR - No, of course not. There is more to K than reading. Btw, when I say that a third of DD's class were reading fluently at the beginning of the year - most of those were old summers! The nice thing about private school is that they do reading in small groups, so your daughter will be grouped with other strong readers.

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          02.27.09, 01:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Truly fluent readers? Not many. Reading beginner books fluently, maybe 1/3. I was an assistant in a private K many moons ago, so it may be different but people have different ideas about what fluency means.

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      02.27.09, 10:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I cry BS. Children read when they're ready and early reading is rarely an indication of anything. Educators know this. They all level out around 3rd grade irregardless of when they started to read.

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      02.27.09, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • my dd is at a tt school and she did not enter K reading at all.

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      02.27.09, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 90% of those who are 5 1/2 or older when they enter K in September. Those kids have either been in some sort of school program for 3 years and very used to seeing words. But early reading is not an indication of higher intelligence. They should all be reading by mid -2nd grade I'd say.

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      02.27.09, 10:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • DF's DD at Brearley still barely reading at the end of 1st grade. The lower school is big on exploration and such.

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        02.27.09, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • very interesting. It's even more interesting that you took the opportunity to name the school.

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          02.27.09, 11:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Brearley is very progressive and developmental in the early years, they tell you that right on the tour. Some parents once they get there are freaked out because it seems the girls aren't doing the work girls in "lesser" but traditional schools are doing.

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            02.27.09, 11:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 10% fluently. Many are emerging readers ie they are starting to sound things out. but few are fluent readers.

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      02.27.09, 10:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • semi hijack: when you applied to k did they expect dc to read? when we went to cgps playgroup they took a group of parents and kids into the playroom (the parents later left). they had kids name tags on a table and asked each kid to pick theirs up. sneaky bastards. my dc was first in the room so she had to pick hers out from several tags. luckily she recognized her name but i had to go change my panties afterwards.

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      02.27.09, 11:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Sorry about your underwear problem, but most kids can pick out their names in pre-K. DS who is barely reading beyong CAT, SAT and RAT can do that, and his name is almost ten letters long! (Yes, I know, bad planning on my part. It was hilarious watching him sitting in pre-K, laboring over his name surrounded by kids named Ben, Alex, Rose, Amy, etc...)

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        02.27.09, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • yes, as it turns out so could she but i had just never seen her do it up until then. call me an out of touch mom.

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          02.27.09, 11:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I think this happened on all of our playdates for private schools. And I do think it is absolutely expected/normal that a pre-k 4-yr old can at least recognize their name. (which is quite different from "reading")

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        02.27.09, 02:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Another semi-hijack: For those saying early reading is an not an indicator of anything, this is misleading. There is a big difference between a child learning to read before they are two and before they are five, but both could be characterized as "early". "They all level out around 3rd grade irregardless of when they started to read. Educators know this" is an incorrect blanket statement. Gifted specialists will tell you that sometimes early reading is indeed an indicator of advanced intelligence and yes, sometimes it is not. By the way, educators are not always the best judges of the most intelligent students in their classes, preferring ones who are cooperative and well behaved.

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      02.27.09, 02:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ^^^^Only time will tell if it was an indicator.

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        02.27.09, 02:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • NP: I totally agree. I don't get it when people keep saying that early reading is not an indicator. It shows that ability to recognize patterns develops early. Just look at any "gifted" website.

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          02.27.09, 04:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Other specialists will tell you that very early reading if teamed with a number of other early milestones is indeed a good indicator of a good noodle.

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      02.27.09, 02:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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