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  • I am pretty sure we are going to be rejected for preschool from the synagogue where dh and I have been members for 2yrs. this week got a reminder in the mail about how the second half of our annual gift pledge is due. we should hear in the next 1.5wks about acceptances. i think we would leave the temple if rejected. dh wants to hold off paying until we hear. what do you think?

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    02.22.09, 11:06 AM [ Flag ]
    • Pledge a big gift, and pitch a fit and don't give them a cent if you don't get in!

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      02.22.09, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: we pledged in sept and paid half then. what do we do if they keep asking for the other half?

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        02.22.09, 11:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Tell them that you'll be giving them the other half in March--or just do nothing until you get your acceptance letter.

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          02.22.09, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • op: ok, thanks. i thought the timing of the pledge gift letter was a little suspicious.

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            02.22.09, 11:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Obviously it is. They are probably hoping everyone will pay up before the letters go out. Don't play their game--or if you're planning a large gift, call them on it. Tell them you're planning on making a large financial commitment to them, but you also expect that they will show an equal commitment to your family and will take your child.

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              02.22.09, 11:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Yeah go on and bribe them.

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                02.22.09, 11:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Listen, they're asking her to! The conversation is with the development director or whoever it is, not the doa. It goes like this: "We are thrilled to be part of this community, we are planning on continuing to support it generously, we are committed to your teachings, and we want our child to be schooled in this tradition. We find it somewhat upsetting that we have not been told that s/he is accepted as yet, and would like to know that's going to happen." Let the development person take it from there and get back to you. Only works with a big gift, fwiw. AND there's no shame because these instititutions have preschools as a service for their members. It's outrageous that they don't take them all.

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                  02.22.09, 11:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • op: i don't think i have the balls to do this...

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                02.22.09, 11:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Don't need balls just a shady character.

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                  02.22.09, 11:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • It's not shady. Would you pay your dues to a golf club where you couldn't get a tee time because they're booked for the year? These are not independent preschools.

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                    02.22.09, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • So like the same thing IYHO. Not in mine.

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                      02.22.09, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • IMHO if your family's temple is not 100 percent committed to your children's educational and spiritual well-being, they're FOS. Bad enough that these places charge for high holidays etc. but if they don't take your kids in their preschool, they suck.

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                        02.22.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • op: i agree with this 100% in theory, but also understand the reality of the manhattan preschool ridiculousness. that said, if we don't get in, I will be pissed and we will leave.

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                          02.22.09, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • NP. there are way many more members than spots. joining for 2 years, no offense to OP, in the hope of getting in is not a long-term member and there are many long-term members applying (we were members of our temple for 5 years before we even had a child). we didn't apply to temple for school (not convenient) but would have expected better deference than someone who joined just to get into the school, which OP clearly did. I would not say anything about the gift and just do nothing until you see.

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                          02.22.09, 11:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • op: this is true. however, i'm only 30, so we are relatively young and i wasn't even living here 5yrs ago. but i understand the point about member longevity. the 2 people i found out about who have gotten in have not been members for longer however.

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                          02.22.09, 11:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Did you join the temple soley for the preschool? Will you join another temple?

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      02.22.09, 11:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: pretty much. it's the only temple near us with a preschool. we would probably go join another temple.

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        02.22.09, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • most temples have many more members than they can take into the nursery school. Sibs are accepted before members. I hope it works out for you but I wouldn't take it personally- 2 years is not a long standing member.

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      02.22.09, 11:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • brotherhood? they reject a lot of their families' kids. don't write the check!

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      02.22.09, 11:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: yes! that's strange though because i heard last year they took non-members, so i figured they must have taken all the members who applied too

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        02.22.09, 11:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • WL there moved a lot last year. I know they wl-ed a lot of members.

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          02.22.09, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ^^^ also, I'm so sorry i posted the name. that makes it searchable. don't post anything identifiable at this point, op.

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            02.22.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • op: thanks -- i didn't think of that. i won't.

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              02.22.09, 11:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I posted above about being long-term members. didn't realize it was Brotherhood. They sent the reminders out to everyone - we are NOT at the preschool at just got ours. I doubt they are waiting to see what you do with the pledge before deciding. I stick by my advice above. You do not need to send in your check now. wait and see what happends. That said, it is a great synagogue whether you get into the school or not (personally i think there are better choices for preschool in the area), but we love the community there and could not think of joining anywhere else in the area.

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                02.22.09, 11:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • op: thanks -- i will hold off on the check. i agree that there are better preschools, but we love the idea of a jewish school since we will likely go public later on. glad to hear the letter isn't as suspicious as i thought it was.

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                  02.22.09, 11:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • lol, the one person I heard of who got rejected from their temple preschool was a brotherhood too. She was LIVID and they had been members for years before dc was conceived. The other person who I knew that actually had a dc at brotherhood (a non-member) pulled her dc after the 3s years because her dc wasn't happy there.

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                    02.22.09, 02:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • i know 2 families that sent dc 1 but not dc2. the school is not what it was 3 years ago

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                      02.23.09, 07:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • i know 3 families that sent dc1 but not dc2 there. none of them say anything mean, but you have to ask...

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                      02.23.09, 07:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Which temple?

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      02.22.09, 11:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • This whole post is gross to me. You should join a temple for the reason of how their religious philosophy relates to you - not whether or not you want their preschool.

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      02.22.09, 11:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: how is this any different than temples that require you to join once you're accepted? our family has similar views on religion and education, as does the temple we joined. that said, there are other temples we see ourselves fitting in with -- they just happen to not have preschools.

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        02.22.09, 11:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I guess it would depend on why they were rejecting dc. Is it just because there are too many members and not enough spaces to take them all? If so, then I might still send the check. If they are taking children who are not even members over yours though I'd be pissed. No way I'd donate to them. It's pre-school!

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      02.22.09, 12:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • One thing should have nothing to do with the other. This kind of thing would leave a bad taste in my mouth. I agree w/your dh.

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      02.22.09, 12:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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