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  • So, what does a baby nurse do for you if you're exclusively breastfeeding? TIA.

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    10.07.08, 06:53 AM [ Flag ]
    • My guess would be whatever you ask - but it made little sense to me. DH was able to change and burp baby and I ebf and it seemed to work out fine.

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      10.07.08, 06:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • They can still do a lot. You can pump for one of the night feedings, and during the day they help change diapers, take the baby for a walk, keep an eye on the baby while you shower, teach you how to look after the baby. I let mine go after two days because I realized I wanted to hold, feed, change the baby and would rather have extra cleaning help. In the end I actually didn't get the cleaning help but next time I will!

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      10.07.08, 07:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • A ton. We had nurse with both dc and I ebf-ed the whole time. The breast feeding is actually the easiest part of taking care of the baby--it's the changing and rocking and laundry and taking out for walks constantly and all of that which makes you exhausted and at wits end. I could go out and do stuff in the neighborhood in the early days and nurse would call if db was hungry. Also, I pumped and nurse did all night feedings after the first week, which was great. At dinner time, I was done for the day.

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      10.07.08, 08:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Ah, the beauty of outsourcing all those pesty little things you have to do for a baby.

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        10.07.08, 08:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: i got called a martyr for refusing a baby nurse. my MIL contracted with one over my objections and I sent her home. I thought it was my job to do all those things....

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          10.07.08, 08:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • In most cultures, it is the extended family's job to do all of those things, while the mom lies in bed breastfeeding all day. In America today, that's rarely possible. This is why there are doulas and babynurses.

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            10.07.08, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Exactly my thoughts. It's my baby and I am responsible for it. It's not just some kind of appendix that can be taken care of by throwing money at it.

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            10.07.08, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • LOL. There's plenty for everyone to do even with two women on duty.

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              10.07.08, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • and you just pick the convenient ones and let the paid help do the pesky ones.

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                10.07.08, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • No, you pick the meaningful ones, and let the paid help do the pesky ones.

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                  10.07.08, 08:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • for some feeding the baby at night is meaningful. It should be for everybody because it is a special time.

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                    10.07.08, 08:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Wasn't meaningful for me. Was a huge drag and made me crazy with fatigue during the day. I didn't like the feeling. If some people do, that's great for them. Seeing as half the posts on UB are about getting dc to sleep through the night, I figure many people feel the same way I do about night feedings.

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                      10.07.08, 08:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • I feel ya, sister --- love the sanctimommies on UB. It's always the ones who "do sooooo much" for their kids who pass judgement on people who hire help --- smacks of old-fashioned jealousy to me. I has a baby nurse, because our families are far away and i needed the help. And i'm doing it again for #2. Happy mommy=happy baby. 'Nuff said.

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                        10.07.08, 04:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Whatever floats your boat. My dh and I were really happy, well-rested, and stress-free with the extra help both times around. Doing laundry and washing bottles and pushing a sleeping infant in a stroller endlessly don't strike me as bonding activities. And I strongly believe that dc sleep better if they are given bottles of bm in the nights instead of half-hearted breast feedings.

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          10.07.08, 08:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Ehh... (NP) there is no reason you have to do everything yourself if you can afford some help. They are so little. My Mom was a great Mom and she had a baby nurse in the 70s, it's not like I would know it if she hadn't told me.

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          10.07.08, 08:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • This is not about the baby. This is about the perception of how a mother-baby bond is supposed to be in the first few weeks.

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            10.07.08, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • NP: I do think it's a beautiful thing, actually, and something women have always done for each other. Historically, it was friends and family that handled all those "pesky little things" while the new mom rested and recovered. Unfortunately, many women don't have that available to them anymore, so they get paid help. The idea that one women, in isolation, should be able to provide 100% of what an infant needs and enjoy every second of it on top of that is, frankly, a myth, and a dangerous one.

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          10.07.08, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ITA. Well said!

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            10.07.08, 08:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Excuse me? Where is the husband? This is not the middle ages where men were men and women were at home doing woman things. Nowadays you should expect that your husband will help you out 150% with the baby. Yes, that means he will go to work sleep deprived etc. etc. It's temporary.

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            10.07.08, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • My dh works about 14 hours a day. There was only so much he could do to help. It is what it is. -OR

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              10.07.08, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • There are 10 more hours he could have helped. Especially at night.

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                10.07.08, 08:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Everyone demands different levels of sacrifice. My dh couldn't nap when the baby napped, couldn't bf in front of the tv with his legs kicked up, etc. I felt he needed his rest as much as I did, and it didn't make him a less worthy father.

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                  10.07.08, 08:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • And there are 24 hours that a friend, family member, doula or baby nurse can help BOTH the mother and the father.

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                  10.07.08, 08:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • So true. I don't understand all the venom against baby nurses when everyone says "oh that's so great," if it's a mother or a mil who is coming to help.

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                    10.07.08, 08:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • ah. we are going in circles. The point is that a man and a woman should be able to care for a baby w/o extra help. It's not like babies are such a strain. Sure, they won't let you sleep much but if you tag team with your husband each of you should get enough blocks of sleep.

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                    10.07.08, 08:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • It doesn't matter if the father is 200% involved - if he's lucky, he has a week or two paternity leave and then he's back at work, which still leaves the mother on her own 8+ hours a day.

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              10.07.08, 08:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • yes, and you cannot handle an infant for eight hours a day on your own? Really? When DH is home hand the infant over to him and take a couple of days of rest time. Then share the duties at night and have him take care of the baby once more while you get ready in the morning for the day.

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                10.07.08, 08:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • When does your dh get a break? You sound like a peach.

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                  10.07.08, 08:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • He gets a break just like I get a break. Taking care of a baby during his work hours is quite equivalent, no? I sure hope this is the 21st century and we kind of agree on this.

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                    10.07.08, 08:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Depends on what your dh does for a living, doesn't it? Mine gets no down time during the day--no lunch break, nothing. There is plenty of downtime with a newborn if you aren't spending it all doing laundry and running errands. If there's help, everyone gets their downtime and their bonding time.

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                      10.07.08, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • so you had downtime then. and you are saying you even need more downtime during the rest of the day? I though by the end of the day everybody was so stressed out that the baby nurse was god-sent to take care of the baby at night.

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                        10.07.08, 08:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • NP: I had ZERO downtime when DD was an infant - she didn't nap and was the kind of baby that wanted to be held and carried all the time. I tend to think the people that get so judgmental of those w/ outside help HAVE to had very easy babies.

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                          10.07.08, 08:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • LOL. Does your DH know that you consider his job to be a vacation from his childcare responsiblities?

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                      10.07.08, 08:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • You got the wrong person here. DH and I shared our duties as much as we could. Nobody fled from anything.

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                        10.07.08, 08:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • And people that have help, whether it be family help or paid help, aren't "fleeing" from anything either!! My mother stayed with me for several weeks after each DC was born, and BOTH my DH and I considered her help an absolute gift. Could we have done it on our own? Sure. But we were happy not to have to. I would never judge anyone for wanting paid help if they don't have family available.

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                          10.07.08, 08:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Can I? Sure. Do I feel like I have to as part of my sacred maternal responsbility? No.

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                  10.07.08, 08:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I think NP's post applies to men too. Why should the couple in isolation have to provide 100% of what an infant needs and enjoy every second on top of it? Why can't DH get some sleep if a nurse and someone on maternity leave can feed the baby at night? The baby has financial needs too.

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              10.07.08, 08:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • You said it, sister!

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                10.07.08, 08:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • why can't DW and DH find a way to work together and care for the baby while each of them still gets enough down time?

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                10.07.08, 08:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • We didn't have a nurse, but for #2 I am getting us extra help (probably more for cleaning b/c that's waht works for me). Our baby was colicky and we were so tired and had stupid fights.

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                  10.07.08, 08:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Hell yeah! ITTTTTTA.

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            10.07.08, 04:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • UGH--I cannot imagine wanting to get rid of my precious newborn because it happens to be night. I am nauseated by this.

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        10.07.08, 05:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • tell you what a crappy job you're doing

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      10.07.08, 04:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • people who hire baby nurses would have been slaveowners several generations ago.

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      10.07.08, 05:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I have a baby nurse because my dd has some special needs that require me to pump for every feeding rather than put her on my breast. With the pumping, the toddler, the meds and the fatigue, I was overwhelmed and getting depressed. So here is a big FU to people who think that I'd be a slave owner. I am doing what is best for my family at a critical juncture in our lives. I cannot believe that someone would pass judgment on my choice.

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        10.07.08, 06:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Love it! You should qualify it a little, though. People who hire baby nurses for their own convenience only (we are not talking about medical issues, for example)...

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        10.08.08, 06:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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