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The teachers in our school (zoned public) are having a hard time with 30+ DCs per class. They are very frustrated and they take it out on DCs (yelling, etc.)
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When I was growing up, teachers did just fine with 30 in a class. Wonder what happened?
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ditto and same. as i recall, there was one ds who was regularly hauled off to the principal's office for acting up in class. the rest of us sat at our desks, spoke when called on and generally behaved ourselves.
[ Reply | Options ]I did too, but we didn't have 30 kids in our class. Also, I'm not sure you can compare the demographics in a "normal" suburb 20+ years ago to a city elementary school. I'd imagine the dynamics are a bit different.
[ Reply | Options ]np Same here. Lots more out of control brats out there today. I was in a grade 3/5 split with well over 30 kids and one teacher. ONE kid, Darren, who always got in trouble--did have issues, I'm sure, and would sit there chewing on his hands--but everyone else behaved.
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Kids and classroom environments are not the same today as when we were kids. Many, many more behavioral issues and special needs. Plus parents are far more involved in how the teacher interacts with their child, which ads to the level of stress on the teacher. A classroom of 30 today is not equitable in the amount of work required to a classroom of 20-30 years ago.
[ Reply | Options ]I'm not buying this one. Children are children. We may very well label a behavoir "special needs" today when we didn't 20 years ago - and families have always been involved in their dc's education. An involved family is a gift to a teacher, not a curse. I think the quality of teachers has plummeted - there are so many options for women today.
[ Reply | Options ]I think the quality of teachers are actually better now. Most schools require a masters in education. An appropriately involved family is indeed a gift to the class and teacher; however, inappropriately involved parents can make a teacher's life a living hell, and probably contributes to burnout.
[ Reply | Options ]And I'm not buying this one. As someone who has been around public education my entire life, I can definitively say that things are simply not the same. An involved parent is one thing. Teachers welcome participation in classroom activities like fieldtrips and bakesales. What I'm talking about is the parent is constantly questioning a teacher's methods, or the curriculum, or their profession in general. I'm talking more about the idea that a parent who believes they know more than the teacher about how to educate children.
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statistically speaking? how can there be more behavioral issues and special needs?
[ Reply | Options ]Because they are diagnosed now. When we were in school they were 'trouble makers'.
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Well, no, not really. Because there is a reason for the problem behavior that has been diagnosed, there are ways of dealing with them. Those methods typically require lots of one on one time. Sometimes that is done by an aide or an IEP , but the additional adult that would be dealing with that child won't be in the classroom the whole day (unless that child's situation is severe enough to require a full time aide, which is determined by someone other than the teacher). In the past, those children would not have received that level of attention. I'm not saying that is better; far from it. I'm just saying that teachers are required to deal with many more issue than they did when we were in school.
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In my experience that's the main tool that is used in public schools. The teachers yell, the admins yell, the lunch ladies yell, the security officers yell and so on. If you or your dcs can't deal with that then move to private, otherwise, get used to it. It continues right through till the day they leave.
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UrbanBaby Asks...
When I ride in a taxi cab with my DC I:
- Use a carseat
- Buckle him/her in his/her own seat
- Hold him/her on my lap
- I'd never ride in a taxi with my DC, it's much too dangerous!
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