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  • Just how overcrowded is PS199?

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    08.03.08, 05:53 PM [ Flagged ]
    • It's pretty crowded but still a good school.

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      08.03.08, 05:55 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • The class lists for K that I have seen have 17-18 kids in each class, there are 7 classes. PS 199 is such a crock! It is not overcrowded.

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        08.03.08, 06:42 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • Sorry, you're wrong. Class lists for PS199-K are not out yet. Last year, each K class had 25DCs.

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          08.03.08, 07:27 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • np: how many adults per kid? I imagine that there's a student teacher, and a para, along w/K teacher. That would be 3 grown ups and a great ratio if you ask me. Signed teacher.

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            08.03.08, 07:40 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • np: Wrong. i have a ds starting there in Sept. We got class list a few weeks ago. Were told if we wanted to make playdates, we could get list- so we did. 18 kids in my ds;s class.

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            08.03.08, 08:57 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
            • np--Could you report back in September? I wonder if things will stay that way.

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              08.04.08, 04:29 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
              • or: I will. i won;t be suprised if they cut 1 class and disperse those 18 kids. that way they can keep an "extras" room.

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                08.04.08, 05:23 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
            • Ohhh, but dear the "playdate list" you got has ONLY the names of the parents who signed up for it, NOT all the parents. For all you know they can be another 7-8 parents in your DC's class that did NOT sign up. Signed PS199 parent

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              08.04.08, 05:47 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
              • or: seems kind of funny that I know of 3 other parents, who just happen to have kids in the other classrooms, that only have 18 kids on their lists too.

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                08.04.08, 05:48 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
                • You can believe what you want. I have been in 199 for 4 years now with 2 DCs there. The lists include parents who sign up for playdates. There's no reason for you to argue the facts. Over the last 5 years, 199 never had less than 21-22 DCs in K classes, even before they became overcrowded

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                  08.04.08, 05:52 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
                • Do you know your DC's teacher yet?

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                  08.04.08, 05:55 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
                • np. there's no way there are 18 dcs per k class at 199. you're mistaken.

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                  08.04.08, 06:10 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
                  • She's confusing the "class playdate list", with the "class list". The former is a partial list of parents who sign up for it

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                    08.04.08, 06:12 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • where is it?

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      08.03.08, 05:56 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • It's getting bad. Now for the first time some classes have 30+ DCs (33 to be exact); there's no art roon left (a mobile cart will do!!); no music room either; next year they might have to give up their Gym. Relations with Center have deteriorated

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      08.03.08, 05:59 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • NP: But is that any worse than at other schools? My dc are not in school yet, but it seems like everyone is complaining about their kid's school being overcrowded and underfunded.

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        08.03.08, 06:13 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • np. 33 is by far the worst i've heard. we also live in a very popular zone known for overcrowded classrooms and our k classes this year will have 25 dcs.

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          08.03.08, 06:15 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • 87 is not as crowded as this (not yet anyway). Around 25 - 26 kids per class, and we still have an art room, science room, 2 music rooms, computer lab, gym, auditorium (I just asked dc, and they told me, so I got it from the source).

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          08.03.08, 06:16 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • Where is 87?

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            08.03.08, 06:19 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • Doesn't 87 have about 1000 kids? It's one of the largest elementary schools in Manhattan. When do kids start eating lunch?

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            08.03.08, 06:25 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
            • There are 150 kids per grade, so about 900 kids, Two grade eat at time, and it's within normal range given when they start (e.g, 11:20 am - 1 PM). They have a snack either before or after lunch.

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              08.03.08, 06:29 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
              • hijack: what is the earliest drop off at 87? i.e. doors open for breakfast?

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                08.03.08, 07:52 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
            • Yeah but it's also one of the largest buildings. They have the space and staff to handle the #s, so it's less crowded than some of the "small" schools, especially the ones that share physical buildings with other schools.

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              08.08.08, 06:37 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • I doubt that they will give up the gym!! It is actually very common in pub schools to have "art on a cart" as it's called, though of course a separate room is always preferable for everyone involved.

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        08.03.08, 07:41 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • No way will they give up the gym. It is a significant source of revenue for the school, as it is rented out on evenings and weekends to basketball leagues and classes like super soccer stars. Plus, turning it into classrooms would be a rather costly endeavour.

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          08.04.08, 04:36 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • Well in 2-3 years they will HAVE to, unless school is rezoned or Center is kicked out

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            08.04.08, 06:08 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
            • Center school won't be "kicked out" because it is a school in that building. get it? It's been there for 30 years or so - I don't get the "kicked out" mentality (how about a polite 'relocated'?) Who benefits from 200 middle school kids leaving and 200 elementary school kids coming in??? Do you really think the space will be allocated to a missed art room or science room - or will 200 kids be put in that space. Think about it. What will the auditorium, cafeteria, gym, library, PICK UP and DROP OFF feel like then?? This building doesn't have the capacity to have the shared spaces utilized by grade school kids - Center School does 199 a favor by occupying the space. GET IT?

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              09.09.08, 08:53 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Go to http://save199.ning.com to get detailed stats on PS199 Overcrowding. There are links for various documents that show not just the current overcrowding, but trends over the next few years, as well as the impact of recent new building developments.

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      10.14.08, 10:39 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
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