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  • When I was a girl my parents who grew up in manhattan always complained that the city had become so crowded and that private school was impossible to get into. Sigh. The more things change the more they stay they the same.

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    07.05.08, 04:08 PM [ Flag ]
    • There have always been thousands of immigrants coming into the city. I think a major difference now is the overall affluence--white people with money are staying in the city and they are having more children. What was that amazing statistic from census figures, quoted in the Times? The median household income of a white family with children under 5 living in Manhattan is $280,000.

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      07.05.08, 04:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • The times is always, and forever has been, trying to alter real stats to capitalize on he fear of crowding to sell papers, look at the articles in the archives from the 80s, same fear mongering. Aside from that if you look at the ny.gov census stats you see that the number of dcs that are from families that could actually afford private school is actually smaller than in the 90s

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        07.05.08, 04:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • In the 1980s there were way too many private schools - so many that quite a few of the middle class schools closed - McBurney, Rhodes, Walden, more; and many merged.

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          07.05.08, 04:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • the middle class schools? I was middle class and I went to a tt private. There were not 'too many schools' and many many have now opened so it is all relative

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            07.05.08, 04:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I'm the OR of this thread. Name the schools you are talking about, please.

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              07.05.08, 04:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • You don't know your private school history. There were about a dozen schools that closed in the (mostly) late 80s. I say "middle class" because schools like the three I mentioned were affordable for a mid-level manager working parent with a SAHM (e.g. bookkeepers, salesmen, actuaries) vs. the $30K+ needed today which would take up one whole income of this level today. That you went to a tt private is irrelevent. Private schools then were begging for students; not like today.

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              07.05.08, 04:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I don't know, the "white people with money" part of this sentence is humorous. I don't get what you're trying to say. Aren't their Indian, Muslim, Asian, Black, people with money in the city, as well?

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        07.06.08, 05:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Were they putting kids on a 'hold list' even at the public schools and holding lotteries for PS41 like they did this year? It may not be 'more crowded' but the demographic has certainly changed and there are more children in manhattan now than 40 years ago.

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      07.05.08, 04:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Some parts of Manhattan, yes. But there are still plenty of undernerolled school. Unfortunately everyone is flocking to the crowded ones.

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        07.05.08, 05:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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