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  • Spence has not updated it's college placement posting on its website since 2006!! Their placement in 2007 and 2008 was very embarassing, that's why

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    07.03.08, 08:40 PM [ Flag ]
    • It's tough to get these girls in when there are so many smart girls in the burbs with scores just as high, international travel experiences, well-rounded etc. How do you differentiate a girl at Scarsdale HS from one at Spence?

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      07.03.08, 08:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • But Spence graduates know how to spell and the difference between contractions and personal pronouns.

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      07.03.08, 09:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • What are you talking about? I don't see numbers for ANY years on their site. Where are you seeing this?

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      07.03.08, 11:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Look at their FAQ section. The last Q is about "college placement". They have 2002-2006. They stopped updating the info. 2 years ago

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        07.04.08, 05:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Stop. This is absurd. It is a fabulous school. We loved and it and would have loved to send dd there. We liked it better than Brearley and BTW, she was rejected at Spence, but not at Brearley. All you people with an axe to grind. It is a fabulous school as are most of the NY privates schools, even the non-TTs.

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      07.04.08, 05:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Sounds like you have an axe to grind with Brearley. FWIW, when people use 'and she was rejected at Brearley' as a parting word in defense of their great school it only highlights that everyone views brearley as the gold standard. You defeat the purpose of what you are trying to do.

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        07.04.08, 06:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • You did not read very well. She was rejected at Spence, not at Brearley.

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          07.04.08, 06:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • np: you know what she meant and she is right. To claim that a DC was accepted at Brearley but not at another of the 'TT" girls schools it makes you all look desperate and DOES highlight that Brearley is considered the gold standard.

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            07.04.08, 06:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Oh please, many many people prefer other schools over B. That is just ridiculous to say, "the gold standard." It is a great school, but not everyone's FC.

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              07.04.08, 06:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I never said anything about choice or fit, I as talking about academic reputation. When moms like you say stupid things like 'and she was accepted t B but rejected at Spence' it makes you look pathetic, defensive, and as if you have an axe to grind against Brearleys stellar academic reputation. you would be better off not mentioning it.

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                07.04.08, 06:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • np; omg, OR is the ONLY sane B mom I've seen on UB. You really do contribute to the crazy B mom reputation.

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                  07.04.08, 06:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Excuse me? What are you talking about, I am not saying B is the end all be all! I am saying people who are dying to prove it is not that good would be better off not saying such silly things like OR above. Why mention whether or not a dc was rejected at a certain school and accepted at B, why not just say Spence is rerat or Chapin is great - they are and using Brearley as a comparison ruins their point and lessens people belief that S or C is really better if people feel the need to compare all the time

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                    07.04.08, 06:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • It's because CRAZY B moms come here and always say stupid things like nobody believes parents prefer S or C over B. They come here in hordes and scream their heads off. This is the only B mom post with a diff view. It's not about which is better. It's about crazy B moms.

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                      07.04.08, 07:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • I think you sound a but off to be honest, nowhere was there a B mom here screaming that B was so great. I know a lot of B moms in fact who don't even talk about schools

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                        07.04.08, 07:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • I'm sure there are sane B moms but they don't post on UB. Those who do post, however, except for OR, sound like they drank the kool aid.

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                          07.04.08, 07:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • np. Sane B mom here, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Maybe I should sign all my posts from now on? ;)

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                          07.04.08, 07:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • :) Maybe you should. The others are scaring me.

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                          07.04.08, 07:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Don't bother yourself, if you haven't noticed yet, even measured responses from B graduates or mothers is met with intense hatred. Many of the women here will do anything to find something about your post, even if it is sane, to point fingers.

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                          07.04.08, 07:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Untrue. Maybe just your posts.

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                          07.04.08, 07:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Says crazy B hating reject mom. Move on...

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                          07.04.08, 07:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • nnp. OR sounds like a sane B mom to you because she wishes her dd were going to Spence instead? lol

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                    07.04.08, 06:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Um...it is pretty clear that the OR was rejected at Brearley and is lying about the entire episode

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                    07.04.08, 06:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Ultimately, it's not up to the school, but the individual student when it comes to college "placement". Really ... do you all still wipe your kids' asses, too?

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      07.04.08, 05:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Just looked at this on the Spence website. How is placement "embarrassing?" These are all great schools.

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      07.04.08, 06:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • They did NOT post 2007 and 2008 because it was embarassing. They post 2002-06

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        07.04.08, 06:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • You don't know what you are talking about! Because it was embarassing? Did the head of school come over for coffee and tell you that? God people get a grip

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          07.04.08, 06:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Almost no private posts any given year, they all post 5 year rolling placements to hide the inevitable 'bad years'.

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          07.04.08, 06:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Riverdale, Collegiate, Horace Mann and St. Ann's post individual years

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            07.04.08, 06:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • They post individual years in the their bulletins, the list is easily accessed by non alum you know, I have seen 2007 for C S and Brearley

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              07.04.08, 06:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Yes, which are always better than any other 2nd or 3rd tier or selective public. The TT do 5 years as as method to mask bas years among the TT and compete against each other

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            07.04.08, 06:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • np. It seems to me that listing in 5 year chunks would decrease rather than promote competition.

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              07.04.08, 06:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • No because it becomes more difficult to actually measure the consistency of those good results. All of these schools have very impressive results but the success of certain years scatter.

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                07.04.08, 06:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Yes, which is why if it were possible to compare all these schools' results on a year-by-year basis, it wold be even worse. Every time one school had an off year or an especially good year, people would be trying to use that as "proof" of the school's supposed inferiority or superiority.

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                  07.04.08, 06:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • ^ would

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                    07.04.08, 06:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Which is why they stopped printing annual reports of admissions in the 90s

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                    07.04.08, 06:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Sorry to be dim, but then how can you disagree with my point that the 5 year lists decrease competition? It sounds like the schools think so.

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                      07.04.08, 06:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • I am not disagreeing, I said above that publishing a 5 year list makes it more difficult for newcomers to the private schools in NYC to compare year to year.

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                        07.04.08, 06:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • ^^ oh I see the confusion here, yes, in order to compete with each other - in order for each school to better mask bad single years and make it difficult for newcomers to compare year to year and levels of consistency they all publish 5 year lists. I think we are saying the same thing. I am saying they want to mask the bad in order to compete against each other better and you are saying that you feel that makes competition less but we are saying the same thing

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                          07.04.08, 06:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • I see what you're saying now. I think you're right that we're actually in agreement.

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                          07.04.08, 07:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np. It's a big stretch to believe their exmissions were SO terrible they were too embarrassed to post them. I must agree with the OR 2 up from this one; you come across like someone with an axe to grind.

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          07.04.08, 06:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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