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How does one go about finding a rent-stabilized apt. in NYC? Are there brokers, buildings listed on Google?
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07.03.08, 07:41 PM
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lol. yea. they're totally advertised. NOT
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So, where do I start?
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You have to know someone
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I could never find one! The best deals I got were through private landlords, without broker fees, it's a lot of foot work!
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I wonder if some broker friends would know.
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Buildings aren't stabilized, individual units are. It's mostly luck in finding one. But if you are thinking about the famed four bedroom in a doorman building on the park for $500 a month, forget it.
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OK, I'm not being quixotic but I do need to consider the rent-stabilized option. I work in non-profit.
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If you don't have a high income, forget a rent stabilized unit.
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WHY? Boy, y'all sure are intent on discouraging me.
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It is VERY hard to evict someone from a rent stabilized unit. Much harder than from a market rate apartment. So landlords take extra care in choosing tenants for rent stabilized units. They have a strong preference for people with high incomes.
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You will not qualify for Section 8 unless you make something like $15,000 or under.
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call 311 ask for housing/section 8/apts based on 30% of income
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i pay 625$ /month for a 3 bedroom apt, 1000sq feet. i have section 8.
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Thank you so much! Finally, someone who is willing to share useful information. I bet you work in non-profit also.
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HAHA!!! i dont work but full time single mom AND full time student. i also have food stamps and WIC but dont get much more help. call 311 ask how to apply for section 8 or something similar, the city offers that. good luck
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i do have a part time job online oct-may, i am not lazy
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She probably would not qualify for section 8, it's a gift for life and not given out too easily.
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she could at least try. whats your HHI?
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You don't get much more help than that? What more could you get? You're getiing a college education, cheap rent for a 3 bedroom and food stamps.
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well, no one helps me w the child. as in im with him at all times. have not had 1 day off in 10 months. im so so tired and lonely;). no child support.
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You have a three bedroom apartment for just you and one child? How wasteful.
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1 child, three bedroom?
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Plenty of parents haven't had a day off in years. That's life.
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no, i live with another single mom though, im helping her out, she has 2 kids
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That would be a violation of Section-8.
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no, she is on the lease, no violation!! we get sec 8 inspections twice per year
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Good for you, OR. Keep shutting up these entitled jerks.
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Section-8 inspects once a year. And they prohibit non-related adults from cohabitation unless both adults are parents to at least one child in the household.
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read again
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Yeah, but I bet you're not one of them! Hypocrite.
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I'm a single parent.
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Yeah, a single parent who gets $10,000 + a month in alimony and child support after divorce settlement. Give me a break.
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My husband died in Iraq. No alimony, no child support, and no life insurance. Death benefits were a pittance.
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everyone's excuse is that their husbands died in iraq
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Everyone? Thankfully, we are still a pretty small percentage of the population.
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maybe you were not single from the start. some are luckier than others...my friend got me a gift card for a massage for my bday in december. (she said i really need it) and i STILL never got 1 day off to use it!!!!!!!
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Well, I certainly hope the taxpayers send a babysitter and a masseuse over right away!
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I'm sooooo lucky that my husband died as opposed to my getting pg out of wedlock. Let me count my blessings.
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you are so rude!! i work so hard here i have a leg and back injury from lifting things and doing everything on my own. you think wishing for 1 damn day off and away from my child to get a massage that has given to me as a gift is asking for so much???? you dont know my entire situation so give me a break!!! get over it. move on.
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Don't you ever run out of things to complain about? No one cares that you don't have time for a massage or that you don't have anyone to watch your child, even though you claim to have a roommate you are "helping" and are scamming welfare benefits.
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you are so miserable! i was just answering the main question and this has been blown out of proportion. but this is UB
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Is this better: You poor baby, you got pg with a man other than your husband, you refuse to work, no one is handing you piled of cash, and your leg hurts. Poor, poor baby.
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When you graduate then you can start collecting Disability from lifting things.
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And her child can collect it as well, because if the parent get SSI, so does the child.
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so so rude! you do not know my situation. and i will not discuss it any further.
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i do not collect ssi neither does my child. but thanks for suggesting that, i will check on it monday. i should get it!
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At least you're getting an education here, people think it's a disgrace what you are doing, but no one will say it to your face. So stop telling people about all your free shit, unless its your other freeloading friends, who think it's wonderful.
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nope! never run out of anything. arent you on ub to complain?
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i will not be doing this forever, as a matter of fact i can not wait to NOT have to do this and be on my own!
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If you can go to school and volunteer, you won't get it.
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ok im just lying to make fun of you all!!! hahaha
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Yes, you do have child support, tax payers, we pay your rent, for food and for a three bedroom with a view! Who watches your child when you go to school?
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i saved money enough for baby during school time, i barely make it.
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I'm calling FAKE or FRAUD. It is very hard to hold onto savings and qualify for food stamp or WIC benefits. So someone is either lying to us or to the government.
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LOL!!! savings meaning baby sitting 1.5 days per week!!! it's not that much savings, trust me;))))))))))) no fraud here
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So how much did you save for the semester?
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my student loans pays the baby sitting, about 2900$ per semester, 1.5 times per week. it's really rough!!!
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That's already too much savings to qualify for food stamps in NY.
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You can't get food stamps in NY if you have more than $1500 in savings or liquid assets (exclusions for one car per household and primary residence).
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Come on, do you really think she has a bank account?
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And this is why it's FRAUD. It doesn't matter where she saves the money or why. She has to report it. And if she has $2900 and is getting food stamps in NY, she isn't reporting as is required.
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NOT TRUE!! food stamp office has what is called a school budget from school. they know exactly how much loan i have, how much i spend and on what. Cheer up!!!
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Of course it is (Fraud), but it's how she was raised and how she will raise her child probably. The other poster who is calling the rest of us who paid our own way entitled is right, yes, we could have done it that way. In a million years I wouldn't even know how to apply for WIC and Section 8, I didn't learn that in my house, I learned, "Get a job".
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np: Why don't you just take a larger loan and cover your expenses that way. Isn't that how most students support themselves and their families?
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I think that most of us were raised to believe that we are supposed to support our own children and ourselves, even when that means sacrifice. Other people only focus on how they can can get as much as they can from the government (often not realizing that this means scamming their neighbors).
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That is absolutely untrue. There is no income/savings exemption for students.
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no i stuff it all in my bra!
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Well, then at least you can count to two.
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Please, don't have anymore kids until you get out of school...the gov pays for your birth control I would assume.
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I guess she wants the taxpayers to swing by a few times a month and clean her apartment for her.
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that would be amazing although i do clean on my own.
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You should be providing everything for yourself. Including the rent.
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I don't know why this makes me so sick! Getting a graduate degree while everything is being funded. I guess working as a waitress and not being a full time student isn't an option for you.
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Or taking out student loans to pay the rent and cover childcare?
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im in grad school btw.
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Drop out, get a second FT job, and pay your own damn rent.
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who would pay for the child care??? would love to work but would not make enough for childcare. it's a crappy situation, believe me
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You could work, form a childcare coop, live with another single parent, etc. If you have time to go to school, you have time to work more hours at a job that pays.
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i do live w another single mom. i offered her to live with me to help her out.
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Then you are defrauding the taxpayers. This is not allowed under section-8.
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but she is on the lease? your story is full of holes.
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Did you entitled people work while you went to grad school at Yale, Columbia, and Harvard? What jerks you all are.
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Yes, I worked as a bartender and worked my ass off to go to college, I went to a CUNY school and never took out one loan, and paid my rent and graduated when I was 30 years old. So yes, this does piss me off.
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I took out student loans to cover my living expenses and childcare. It wasn't anyone responsibility other than mine.
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Well, she is working too and raising a kid. Her life circumstances are different from yours. Stop having such a chip on your shoulder. I think it's laudable that she's in school to get a better job.
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That was your choice to do it this way. If you had wanted, we would have paid for you as well. You're not a better person because you made a different choice.
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It's not a choice. It's the responsibility of being an adult.
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She only works when she feels like it. School is her priority, not providing for her child.
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And freeloading off others. Section 8 is for life, we will always pay her rent.
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i am doing the same thing, going to school, taking loans and raising a child. what's so awful in that? i dont get it!! i only qualified for section 8 because my apt. used to be income based but then turned into fair market price which is now 4000$. there was no way I could swing that so the city offered me section 8. Mean people you all are! Should I have gone to a shelter?
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You should have rented an apartment you could afford! What kind of apartment goes from income based to market based? Not J-20. Not HDC. What? And how did you get Section-8 w/o a federal application?
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Thank you!!! This has been so hard for me. I am so thankful that I have the resources to go to school, have some aid while I get to raise my little one. I also volunteer at a hospital as I am doing some research on people affected by stroke. I hope that one day I can make a good difference in this world. Regardless of how I got to that point.
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BOTH are priority. school =better job= better life for my child. I am so sure you know that already!
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You have time to volunteer but not work to feed your child?
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it is called MITCHELLAMA! WHY DONT YOU GOOGLE IT BEFORE YOU ACCUSE ME OF FRAUD?? SHAME ON YOU!!!
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Yes, I am a better person for not asking everyone else to pay for my three bedroom apt, my food and childcare. A better perso for taking care of myself and my child.
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yes, i volunteer 5 hrs per week, i do art therapy with the patients. i take my child with me. good night!
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Here's the problem. The way Section-8 works is that once approved, you find a landlord willing to accept the voucher. Mitchell Lama apartments reverted to the landlords, not the city. The city couldn't offer you section-8 placement in a ML building. The owners of the former ML buildings would have to be willing to take the voucher. And because the rent limit for a three bedroom ($1725) is so far below the $4K you cited, we would have to believe that your landlord loved you so much that they were willing to take a huge cut in rent in order to keep you. Not buying it.
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So stop volunteering and get a job that allows you to bring your child along. Clean houses, do laundry, etc.
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A $4000 Section-8 apartment? Do we look stupid?
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ditto
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Wait, I thought she wasn't on the lease? How was she offered anything?
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there is no "problem". HERE is how this works: ive lived here all my life. apt turned into market rate a couple of years ago. i was offered section 8 (everyone living here has section 8 btw) and i took it. The rent is now 4500$ per month but what we pay is 1250$ per month for 3 bedrooms. My roomate pays 625$ and I pay 625$. Section is covers up to 4500$. The landlord gets it all. He def charges way to much for how the apt looks.
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apt is actually $4500 per months
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There is a problem, and i is obvious to anyone who knows a thing about Section-8. There are limits on the total rent for a Section-8 apartment. A three bedroom for $4500 would not qualify for Section-8.
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So how are you helping out another single mom, none of this makes sense, she's paying, you're paying. Is this Section 8 or Housing Projects?
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The total voucher limit for a three bedroom is $1600. So the landlord is collecting $1600 from the government, and $1250 from you. Far less than $4500.
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it is 4500$, the landlord charges section 8 that! i think THAT is fraud.
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You don't understand how section-8 works. The landlord can only charge the tenants portion PLUS the voucher amount. If he market rent is higher that the combined total, the landlord loses the balance.
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you are so funny! i am in this situation, not you. my apt is 4500$ per month, I pay 1250$ out of that, section 8 pays the rest. Bottom line. Why would I be making this up? This is getting out of hand. There are many different situations and just because you searched that on line and came up with this result does not mean it is universal. I think section 8 is being ripped off by the landlord to be honest.
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omg, kill the witch!! burn her at stake!!! she will always be paid for. and the rest of your taxes go into the politicians pockets! HAHAHA
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This is not how section-8 works. There are not many situations, there is ONE section-8 program. There are other housing programs, but there are not many applications of Section-8. And there is simply no way that your landlord is collecting more than tenants portion plus the voucher limit.
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Honestly, it just sounds like she is lying. She doesn't understand the programs she claims to benefit from.
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You make it sound like section-8 is a person who can be victimized. It's a voucher program. You get the voucher and take it to the landlord. There are no blank checks involved.
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07.03.08, 09:20 PM
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