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  • I had an affair with a married man and he treated me badly. So I looked at his email account and found that he had been sending the same fantasies to me as he had been sending to his DW. If you were his DW would you want to know?

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    07.03.08, 11:25 AM [ Flag ]
    • yes, but not from you!

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      07.03.08, 11:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I would want to know he cheated on me. I hate when people say that the wife wouldn't want to know.

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      07.03.08, 11:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • He treated you badly she didn't just remember that. Don't tell her just to punish her husband.

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      07.03.08, 11:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • He says she told him to have an affair. If she was in on the way he treated me, why shouldn't she know that she has been conned too

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        07.03.08, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: and you believe him that his wife gave him permission to screw someone else? I have a bridge to sell you

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          07.03.08, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • She had lovers of her own

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            07.03.08, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Then she won't care. Just put it down to experience and move on. You might make a fool of yourself and there is no way of you coming out well of this unless you just walk away.

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              07.03.08, 11:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • If there is a possibility that she knows already, leave it alone. She doesn't care at all how you were treated. Even if you told about the affair, you should not go into those details. You're making this about you, not her. You should have known that someone who would cheat isn't going to be a nice person to date.

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          07.03.08, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • He is a cheater he cannot be trusted. Of course he would tell you that. If she told him to have an affair she probably wouldn't be interested in your revelations.

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          07.03.08, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • you get what you deserve. Do you really think a man who treats his wife like he does (ex..having a mistress) doens't have issues? he does..so do you for thinking so little of yourself and not thinking you deserve more in life than someone elses dh

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      07.03.08, 11:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • If the only way I was going to find out that dh was cheating on me was from his lover, I would want to know. This can't be about revenge though, and you absolutely cannot give details like going into his email.

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      07.03.08, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • don't do that. what you did was wrong and now your hurt. leave his wife alone.

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      07.03.08, 11:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I don't think that you really care about the wife at all, you are hurt and want to make him hurt.

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      07.03.08, 11:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ita

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        07.03.08, 11:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Hang on. It takes two to tango. He was there too

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          07.03.08, 11:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • It was like they were both playing a game with me

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            07.03.08, 11:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Duh it takes two to tango, but this post is about her and her hurt, no one else. When most of us have sh*tty bf, we have no one to complain to, she wants to go complain to his wife about how he treated her! That's messed up.

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            07.03.08, 11:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I didn't expalin this very well. I think she was in on it from the start, behind the scenes.

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              07.03.08, 11:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • so she deserves to suffer too? you are one mesed up chick. sorry.

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                07.03.08, 12:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Why on earth do you need to confront her than? At the start you were asking if she should know, and now you're saying she already does and you blame her for her DH being a jerk. I think that you're either being paranoid or foolish, because either way, it shouldn't matter to you.

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                07.03.08, 12:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • No that she should know about the affair, because I think she did. But that she should know he was sending the same fantasies to both of us.

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                  07.03.08, 12:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Why do you think she's going to care? The fantasies are not the issue.

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                    07.03.08, 12:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • How old are you?

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                    07.03.08, 12:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • and that suprises you? that he has a fantasy and that he is sharing it with the women in his life? #1 how old are you, and #2 you need therapy because you sound obsessed, and #3 this is what you got yourself into - when you want to play with the big boys, then you have to be a big boy.

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                    07.03.08, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Oh My God. Are you 19 years old ? The most disturbing thing to you is the idea of the fantasies ?! Your focus is truly NOT where it should be...

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                    07.03.08, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Yes and he is the one who is married and has responsibilty to his wife.

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            07.03.08, 11:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • walk away from it. start over. lose the anger. you will only hurt yourself and others.

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      07.03.08, 11:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA. She had an affair with a married man and made a big-girl decision. She needs to be a big-girl about the end of the affair too.

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        07.03.08, 12:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • especially since she worked or still works with the guy, this can only hurt her.

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          07.03.08, 12:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I'm still a bit confused as to whether or not her anger is about the fact that he sent his fantasies to his wife and they should have been special fantasies only for her, or is the anger about something else ?!

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            07.03.08, 12:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • You are right. I know you think I should suck it up. But he was real nasty. He told me he thought I would be better in bed than I was. It was pretty humblating.

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            07.03.08, 12:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • he's a scum bag - he was looking for fun and that was it. get past it. acknowledge that you made a bad choice to get involved with him, regardless of whether he treated you badly or if his wife was in on it. It was your bad choice. And, then, go on with your life. I'm sure you're young and attractive. Forget about him. He was toxic and you should be happy that you are not married to this man.

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              07.03.08, 12:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I'm sure you;re great in bed and you made a choice to get involved with an ass. We've all done something we regret. Now be better than him - be who your mom wants you to be - and walk past him looking fab with an air of "Fuck you loser". His poor wife has enough to deal with already I would guess

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                07.03.08, 12:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Get over it and go get therapy. If he was nasty you should have walked out. He does sound like a creap, but you should have known better, and if you didn't then you need help from a professional on setting boundaries and working on your self esteem. Us UBers are completely happy to rip the nasty guys a new one, but you sound a bit unbalanced, or very very young.

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              07.03.08, 12:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I was the one who ended it after he said that. But I still really mad, and I still think about it a lot.

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                07.03.08, 12:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • maybe you should try talking to someone about it. therapy - I think it would be helpful.

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                  07.03.08, 12:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • But what do you think that you will gain from telling the wife about the fantasies?

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                  07.03.08, 12:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • I don't know. I think I just want them to know that it was not right to walk all over me like that. I have seen them walk over other people too. His wife got fired for fiddling her expenses. They think they can get away with anything.

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                    07.03.08, 12:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • And they are going to get away with this. Honestly, if you're right, they are going to laugh in your face. How do you propose to "punish" them?

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                      07.03.08, 12:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • I could tell her new boss she got fired for fiddlig her expenses.

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                        07.03.08, 12:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • But I don't want to do that.

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                          07.03.08, 12:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Does her DH still work with you?

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                          07.03.08, 12:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • He's leaving.

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                          07.03.08, 12:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • you have nothing to gain if you do anything. Telling her new boss is crazy. You are just setting yourself up for more humiliation, and I don't understand why you would want to do that.

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                          07.03.08, 12:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Because it was so awful. He told me that he wanted to be my friend. He told me that he thought that I was beautiful. And then he just turned on me like that.

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                          07.03.08, 12:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • but you will gain nothing! I'm sorry, but you have a problem if you can't let this go, which means you need to see a therapist.

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                          07.03.08, 12:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • Maybe. I just thought it might make me feel better. I also thought of calling his daughter and telling her because she is my age. But I won't. I know it's no good, but I just think about ways to get back at them all the time.

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                          07.03.08, 12:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • call a therapist now. This isn't normal, and you don't have to be this consumed by it.

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                          07.03.08, 12:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • oh my! i think it is a little late for you to be on the wife's side...

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      07.03.08, 12:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I'm not. I just don't understand why they did this

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        07.03.08, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • He didn't have to deceive me like that and pretend to my freind.

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          07.03.08, 12:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np: SHE did nothing to you.

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          07.03.08, 12:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • op is a bit nutty...

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            07.03.08, 12:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Yeah, just a teensy bit crazy.

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              07.03.08, 01:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • That's not fair. I'm just very upset, and trying to figure a way out to help myself out of a bad situation by telling my anger a little in a place where nobody knows me, rather than talking to my family or co-workers or people who would know the couple that I am speaking of, and having the whole thing get out of control. I though that's what these online places were for. I don't think I am any more 'nutty' than all the ladies that spend all their time talking about how people who are going to send their kids to this school, or that school, are any better or worse than anybody else.

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              07.03.08, 01:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • yes, but it is obvious that you have serious issues that you keep trying to make about them.

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                07.03.08, 01:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • You seem to think there is some plot against you. The truth is painful but simple: you were used for sex by a man who isn't a nice guy, and it's your own fault because you should know better than getting involved with a married man. It's over now, you've learned from it, spend your energy finding a great guy.

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                07.03.08, 01:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • ahhhh but she hasn't learned from it and is obsessed with making them know that they messed her up.

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                  07.03.08, 01:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • I'm assuming she was vulnerable or messed up already. Men like this search out women like her.

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                    07.03.08, 01:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • So, maybe I can try to see the funny side. He told me all that stuff so he could have sex with me and then he thougt the sex was bad. I know you are right. I need to get over it.

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                      07.03.08, 01:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • You showed him! :) Seriously, he says this to victimize you, to further degrade you. He's a liar - about his wife, about himself, and about you too. You aren't who he says you are.

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                        07.03.08, 01:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • Any guy who tells you after having sex with you that the "sex was bad" is a creep. No matter what the sex was like - good, bad, or indifferent.

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                        07.03.08, 02:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • do you think perhaps your guilt is manifesting itself as anger and resentment?

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                07.03.08, 01:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I don't think what you're saying is nutty OP. I think you went through something that you feel very hurt about. We all make mistakes. I think you will find someone better and can hopefully learn from this bad experience. I don't think you should contact his wife. I would just try to forget about the two of them. Best Wishes.

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              07.03.08, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I hope these people keep the bunny indoors 'cause she's a nut case !

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      07.03.08, 01:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • the more she writes and explains, the more psycho she becomes !

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        07.03.08, 01:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think you are being very judgemental about my situation.

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          07.03.08, 03:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • you slept with a married man!!!! there is no other way to be other than judgemental!

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            07.03.08, 03:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • He told me he was allowed to have an affair. Like I said in the other topic, maybe I was a bit stupid to belive it. But I did not think that I was doing anything against his vows because he said his wife said it was OK.

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              07.03.08, 03:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • instead of reading and rereading what we think about the sad situation that you find yourself in, go out and meet a healthy single guy. Your behavior was wrong, but everyone makes mistakes. Your rationale for wanting to call his wife is immature, and slightly crazy.

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                07.03.08, 03:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • what would he say? i mean rationally, you have to know this is wrong? my husband cheated on me and i confronted the woman-i think she got off on knowing he was "spoken for", maybe you need to be honest with yourself in order to get over this...

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                07.03.08, 03:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I am sorry that happened to you. I thought that it was OK. I actually felt lucky because I had a chance to spend some time with what I thought was my ideal man. I knw I have been dumb about this.

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                  07.03.08, 03:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • you sound like a good person, present situation withstanding, just try and forget about him and move on. if the wife is agreeable, like you say, then they are made for each other. if he is a scheming, manipulative bastard, he will get his...

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                    07.03.08, 03:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • for the future, anyone who says that their wife don't mind them sleeping around is bad news. No one in a happy healthy relationship would do that, so he's either lying or he's so intolerable that the dw doesn't want to sleep with him anymore.

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                07.03.08, 03:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • yes. because it is pathetic and sad to read about a woman devaluing herself to such a level.

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            07.03.08, 03:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Well, I will take away some value from the fact that I called it off after he was so nasty. And I agree that being mad at his wife is being mad at the wrong person.

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              07.03.08, 03:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP - some of these people are obviously very threatened by your post, maybe because they are worried about what their own husbands do. I don't think you did anything wrong, other than getting involved with the wrong man, and many women have done that. You did not take any marital vows, and for all anyone knows, you could be a woman who does not believe it marriage, so I don't see where what you did was wrong.

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        07.03.08, 05:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • OP - I have a suggestion. If you go to the website www.ivillage.com, and click on the section called "Love" -- under this heading there is another heading called, "Relationship Problems" and then under "Relationship Problems" there is something called "My Affair Support". This section is for people who have had affairs, and who want to talk to others who have also had affairs without being judged.

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      07.03.08, 06:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • He is calling me this morning. He has called me twice -- when I saw the number I knew who it was and did not answer. What could he want with me now? I hate this. I hate that I am being tested in this way.

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        07.05.08, 07:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • tested ? It's not so hard to pass this one. Get some self-esteem and behave accordingly

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          07.05.08, 07:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Why is he calling if he said "the sex was bad"? I wouldn't want to have anything to do with a man who said that to me, everything else aside. It wouldn't even be a "test" for me to not answer his calls. Seriously, this one thing, in one itself, should be enough for you to get away from this loser.

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          07.06.08, 07:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I think he is just playing with me a little. Maybe he know he has power over me and he likes that. I don't know. And it tests me because there is a part of me that wishes it had turned out ina different way. And I keep thinking that maybe if I start back up with him the next time will be different. I know it won't (and there are planty of people on here who will tell me so :)) but it's just hard sometimes.

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            07.06.08, 09:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • op; i also once hada dream that he had a party in his house. the driveway was just like a grand driveway in a hotel. There was a weird cloakroom with a window looking on the driveway, and I hid in the cloakroom and watched the cars come and go for the whole time. I looked it up on dreammoods.com and it said if you dream of a prty you need to go out more. They got that right.

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              07.06.08, 09:35 AM [