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poll: was your child reading by the end of K this year and what was the school? was it g&t or General ed?
74 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]Every child in the class was reading by the end of K (only one just barely) - D2 general ed
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interesting, my kids are older but when they were in K I certainly wasn't keeping tabs on the reading level of every kid in their class. Psycho hover mom.
[ Reply | Options ]hello, you have no idea. The parents are invited into the classroom once a week to choose the correct level books for the children. Those children whose parents cannot come in, get help from the other parents. Name calling, ASSuming mom.
[ Reply | Options ]So coming in once a week you evaluated every single child in the class? you need to find something better to do.
[ Reply | Options ]What is you problem lady. Once a week the parents went thru all the books and helped ALL the children pick out the books that were on their level. No one is evaluating anything. I answered ops question. Why are you on this thread if your children are so old anyone and why are you obsessing about the fact that the parents came into our class weekly to help with reading? Give it a rest.
[ Reply | Options ]I think they shouldn't let you in. Look at what you have done. You check out the kids, have this info and post it on a message board. now all the moms at those schools are thinking some beeyotch in the parent body is assessing their kid and talking about it, even if this is anonymous...its not right. really think the schools should do away with this parent involvement. np, btw
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she is not psycho. she was just answering the question. BTW, look like you could use a lesson or two in grammar.
[ Reply | Options ]I know that my ds's class are all reading from going to group things they did and from participating once in a while in the "Parents as Reading Partners" program. -np
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children in my dd's class stood up and read to all the parents. It was painfully obvious who could and couldn't read.
[ Reply | Options ]NP: Was this in K? That sounds like a potentially traumatic experience and I don't see the educational value in this. Was there more to it? It surprises me. My 5 yo has been able to read for 6 mos, but only now has warmed up to the idea. Until now, she's been afraid of making mistakes. So I cannot imagine making little kids read in front of a group of adults (unless they volunteered)
[ Reply | Options ]NNP: In dc's K class, everyone wrote poems, and we had a Writing Celebration, where everyone was supposed to read their own poems. The ones who didn't want to were not forced to, and the teacher read and showed the poem to the class and parents. It was a nice and positive experience for all of the kids, but you definitely can get a sense of the differing levels of the kids, whether or not you cared.
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Mine was not and still not reading well by end of 1st - now finishing 2nd he reads 4-5th grade chapter books alone (all the time because he likes it)
[ Reply | Options ]similar story with my dc -- barely read at end of K, but took off at end of 1st. Now one of best readers in grade -- better than many of the "early" readers who could read in pre-k and loves to read all the time. I try to tell posters here all the time not to push this. If dc has problems in 1st grade and not progressing, then fine, but all this concern about reading before or in K is such a waste and probably makes kids hate to read.
[ Reply | Options ]I so agree with you. better it come naturally. My dc at G&T citywide entered kindergarden and many of the dcs were already reading. The teacher pull me aside and told, "they have been worked with". My dc was reading by the end of the year. Some of the kids were reading at really high levels some were not. All kids equally intelligent. Just some of the kids were worked with at home others were not.
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Like many of his peers, my ds was reading before he began K at NEST this year. His whole class was readign by the end.
[ Reply | Options ]Define reading. My son can find all his favorite TV programs on the cable guide and tell me when the show is going to be on. He will ID things of his interest in all print materials. Will you say he can read? He is 5 years old.
[ Reply | Options ]Dd was reading at age 2.5, will enter gifted k next fall. Not all the kids accepted into her gifted program are reading, and the principal said they hope all the kids will be reading by the end of the school year.
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My kid started to read at that age as well. To be honest it is really hard to pinpoint when exactly a child started to read because the learning process is very gradual. Is your kid able to read when he can read his first word w/o having it memorized (how would you know)? When he reads his first book (what kind of book)? That said my child started to read words on sight at around 2.5 years (mostly memorized short words). At around 3.5 he read simple books on her own. At 4 he started to read simple chapter books. He just turned five and can pretty much read anything you put in front of him.
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He just finished K and he's still working on it. I'm not stressed about it at all. He loves being read to, is working on reading things on his own--doesn't do well if I sit down to have him read to me. He's doing writing on his own, unprompted. But I do think many kids came into his class already reading or close--lots of older girls in his class particularly.
[ Reply | Options ]I distinctly remember that during the summer between K and 1st, DS exploded in reading, and suddenly devoured all the early reading books at the library and beyond. DS was at LL, and we were suspicious of balanced literacy and the dopey books and the lack of explicit phonics, but it really worked for him I guess. 2 yrs later, he reads for pleasure at any opportunity (maybe too much!) with great comprehension and expression. Maybe he was always destined to be nerd but I do think LL makes them more likely to be interested in reading and writing, especially writing, they write a lot, beginning in K, and the Publishing Parties are a big deal.
[ Reply | Options ]DS entered K reading. All kids in his class were reading by end of K, although levels ranged widely, everything from Harry Potter to Frog and Toad. 1. It doesn't matter when they start reading, so long as they learn and any LDs are caught. 2. If they can read the words and comprehend what they're reading - within hte limits of their social understanding - then, they're reading, not just decoding. A first grader can't read the NYT even if he/she is reading Harry Potter, because they lack the social context. But lacking the social context is different than just decoding.
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This is not a mark of a good school, focusing on reading in K, as evidenced by all the TT privates who do not stress this until 1st
[ Reply | Options ]You make it sound that a TT private is oh so much better when it comes to elementary school education.
[ Reply | Options ]np. For offering a well-rounded, developmentally appropriate education, the are.
[ Reply | Options ]^ they. And I would say most of the so-called "2nd tier" privates are also oh so much better than 99% of NYC publics.
[ Reply | Options ]and you have experience with all the TT and 2nf tier privates, the 1% public you find okay, and those 99% of "bad" public schools? I would love how you got all this knowledge.
[ Reply | Options ]I don't need direct, personal experience with those schools to know it's true any more than I need to go to Antarctica to know it's damned cold there. All you have to do is look at the DOE curriculum to know it's true. The scope of their curriculum has become narrower, more remedial and test-obsessed every year. Compared to what most private schools offer, even the best publics aren't as good.
[ Reply | Options ]but you claim there is still a one percent of public schools that are better or as good as 2nd tier privates. How is that possible? And how do you know it is 1% and not .5% or 20%?
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I know that you are biased and very closed minded because you throw around numbers that are absolutely not true. That is all I know about you.
[ Reply | Options ]Which means in actuality you know nothing about me. Whatever. I'm not interested in trying to convince you that your assumptions about me are incorrect. If you'd like to talk about the schools, by all means let's talk about them. I've made my opinion pretty clear, I think. What's yours? Which publics do you think are as good as the "tt" and most of the 2nd-tier privates?
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